Jane is a very straightforward character to play: use her attacks, dodge enemy attacks, onehsot the universe. At the same time, since nearly all her damage is composed by her assault procs, calculating her damage output in a vacuum is not simple. Are you hitting trash enemies that die to one proc? Then you want to trigger it as soon as possible. Are you fighting a boss that takes 3 procs? Or 6? Or 10? What about her team members? Then things get trickier and harder to evaluate based on a spreadsheet. The TL;DW is that both an Anomaly Mastery and Atk% disc 6 can work very well on Jane, and which one is better for your Jane will probably come down to enemy composition and substats
@Gabe_harristheman
23 күн бұрын
What would you recommend? For me I am currently using 4 piece Freedom Blues and 2 piece Fanged metal and my main focus is Anomaly
@Osprey1994
22 күн бұрын
Well, 4p Fanged Metal and 2pc freedom would be the first step. @@Gabe_harristheman
@SirGrindalot
22 күн бұрын
@@Gabe_harristheman 4x Fanged + 2x Freedom Blues is the best overall combination. The AP disc is a must, the remaining two can be any combination of phys/atk%/AM and still perform well.
@ForgiveYourInsanity
22 күн бұрын
One question I was wondering for a while how much better AP is better than ATK% on sub-stats? Let's say in vacuum that we already have 420 AP to max out self-buff. Then let's say we have to choose a disk with 2 AP substats vs 4 atk% substats but no AP. I wonder if anyone done math about relative stat weights - Let's say AP 1.0 weight on priority while ATK% - 0.6 or something like that.
@rafifahmad3062
22 күн бұрын
@@ForgiveYourInsanity just trial in VR in game vs mob with that 2 set just compare Overall assault, iam compare to overall atk%>Pen
@JoyFactorsFactory
22 күн бұрын
Big thanks for the test. Helped me o lot. I prefer to proc more often.
@IceColdSight
22 күн бұрын
Honestly ATK% discs 5 and 6 are just as effective as Phys%+AM% in my experience. I run atk% 5 and 6 and enjoy seeing 450k Assault procs 100% of the time, and since Jane is best paired with Seth and Jane really wants to have Core skilled maxed anyway theres really no need to overdo it with AM% on 6
@ArnvalArn
22 күн бұрын
Its viable to use atk% on slot 6 bcoz ur Jane is c1.. on c0 scenario, AM slot 6 significantly helps u to trigger assault more often, the dmg difference for atk vs AM usually around 50k tho from my testing.. i will stick with AM and arguably go for atk if my jane is C1
@pabuyaplays6588
21 күн бұрын
Funny, I was up late last night trying to see what deals more DMG. I tried Disc 5 Atk% and Disc 6 Atk% and Disc 5 Physical % and Disc 6 Atk %. I fought the first weekly boss lvl 60 to test. I used the same routine to get my numbers. Stun boss, have Jane be the last in the chain, and use ULT. Every time I did this I would get an assault DMG ranging from 460k- 520k. But I mainly saw under 500k consistently with atk% for disk 5&6. Overall, Physical seems to do more dmg. In my conclusion, the damages are pretty damn close and not to mention the Assault DMG is hella random. I will say that the atk% for disc 5 and 6 just makes your stats look pretty. Disk 5 + 6 atk% : Atk: 3013 AP: 470 Disk 5 Physical% + Disk 6 atk%: Atk: 2637 AP: 452 Lastly, I'm waiting to get a Disc 5 Physical % but with at least AP+2 in substats. Then I'll retest the damage.
@NSaysSilly
22 күн бұрын
so its only about 30k different dmg I assume? ill stick to AM% then... but the real question is... is Jane with ATK% in disc 5 better than Jane with Physical DMG Bonus% in disc5?
@Young_Mon
22 күн бұрын
This is actually what I wanna know too does anyone have an answer
@SirGrindalot
22 күн бұрын
Phys is overall better but it also depends on the substats and their rolls. A phys disc can have AP and atk% substats, but an atk% disc cannot have atk% sub so there's more chances of getting good rolls.
@Bedonkay
22 күн бұрын
@@SirGrindalot so I got Jane recently and I just started clearing more content because she’s been fun. If I’m not trying to maximize her damage for personal records, I don’t have to worry about rolling for an anomaly disc with good subs right? I’ve already got atk%, Phys disc, and AP disc with great subs. At some point I’ve gotten lucky enough and I’m just wasting resources trying to gain an extra damage that would like save me 10 secs otherwise or something like that
@SirGrindalot
22 күн бұрын
@@Bedonkay if your build is already good then it may be a pain to look for a good AM disc with good subsats. Gatcha games in general don't require our characters to be perfect in order to clear content. I personally prefer to hyperinvest in my favorite characters (pulling for copies and getting great stats for them); in practical terms it's a bad use of energy and polychromes, but seeing my favorite characters get stronger gives me more enjoyment than having plenty of characters with average builds.
@Bedonkay
22 күн бұрын
@@SirGrindalot thx bro. Also joined the cord to ask this question 😂
@akoski
22 күн бұрын
no anomaly substats, only hp and def. I'm feeling lucky
@lucaria6164
2 күн бұрын
Jane by herself is an AM disc drive tbh, i just give her all my atk
@Halzion_Alpha
19 күн бұрын
Honestly my build difference isn't that big, with AM i can get 1,390,000 damage in one rotation. With atk and less proc (like three or so) i still get approximately 1,4M and "sometimes" (most of the time the enemies just die before i can proc the fourth assault) but when it can proc 4 times, I can get 1,9 to 2,1M because the last one usually deals 736K. With AM my ATK and AP is 2054 and 425, with ATK% my ATK and AP is 2435 and 434. My usual team is with Seth and Grace (Disorder). PS: And yeah, there's a lot of factors that will determine your best damage like PEN ratio, what enemy it is, Def of the enemies, resistance, etc. So just find something more comfortable for you liking. Cheers! 🥂
@Jaylou88
21 күн бұрын
As if Jane wasn’t broken enough M6 Jane has 100% uptime in passion state after the first proc of assault. I can’t wait to get her to lvl60 and see these numbers
@KitKat-io1vx
15 күн бұрын
it's around 15% dmg diff, I guess it's better get 15% more dmg since there is a cap between one assault to another and it's about 3 seconds...
@69vdk
18 күн бұрын
Hey man nice video ❤ I'm new in this game just 10 day's 😂 can u tell me where is this quest and what lucy do to the team or jane ? And thx
@ScaryFaces2
15 күн бұрын
Put neko or piper in for 20% AM build up should get more dps from that 👀 and seth in the middle for maximum AM build up, with some build up boost w-engine sub stat, she'll became a machine gun 😂
@Joshuahembra
20 күн бұрын
AM is high recommend (thanks to 1.1 Version)
@kaidite
22 күн бұрын
Forget about AM vs ATK disc, how did you got 452 AP without an anomaly disc? That's like 250 AP on substats alone. Which gacha gods have you been praying to?
@kartohahaha
22 күн бұрын
her personal weapon helps a lot in this, but yes, it is really difficult and long to collect such a number
@sentience3033
22 күн бұрын
Can you guys tell me any alternative to her sig?
@kartohahaha
22 күн бұрын
@@sentience3033 The best epic option for her is the "tropical gourmet", which can be obtained at the toy store on sixth Street. There are still options, but the passive gourmet skill is the most convenient and useful for Jane.
@sentience3033
22 күн бұрын
@@kartohahaha what about Grace’s sig ?
@kartohahaha
22 күн бұрын
@@sentience3033 this weapon has a place to be if you play without Rina, but in my experience it is even worse than the "tropical gourmet". Anyway, experimenting and learning is always useful, your gaming experience will be transformed
@Fenris9227
17 күн бұрын
Hi all, few questions.. What else need to do for achieving 420+ anomaly for Jane? Been maxing her level and weapon lvl and drive disc (4 phys/2 freedom blues)(slot 4 anom pro, slot 5 phys dmg, slot 6 anom mastery) , all max but somehow still 379 anomaly achieved.. Is it the sub stats? Do I need to reroll/refarm the discs again and again? Or any tips and tricks to share. Sorry if its a noob question because I am newbie in this game. 😅😂
@SirGrindalot
17 күн бұрын
@@Fenris9227 you are right: it's all from substats so it's a matter of grinding those discs over and over, until luck decides to show up... It can be pretty painful but don't worry: we've all been there
@Fenris9227
17 күн бұрын
@@SirGrindalot Thank you Sir Grindalot for the clarification.. Appreciate it! 🤝
@SirGrindalot
17 күн бұрын
@@Fenris9227 you're welcome and good luck! getting good substats can be a pretty lengthy and brutal process
@Fenris9227
17 күн бұрын
@@SirGrindalot Roger Sir! 🫡 Last one, 420 AP is the benchmark yes? As long as it reaches that threshold is sufficient enough and no more grinding after that right? Of course unless if am not lazy grinding to go beyond the said threshold. Sorry for all the question.. forgot to ask in my 1st comment 😅
@SirGrindalot
17 күн бұрын
@@Fenris9227 yes, 420 is the target to max all her self buffs. Going past 420 still increases her damage so if you get more than 420 it's still good. Jane doesn't care about crit stats. so just focus on looking for AP and ATK% substats and you're good!
@chubbydevon2466
22 күн бұрын
Please can u do a breakdown guide on ur disc I want my anomaly proficiency to be like urs, I'm stuck at 405
@SirGrindalot
22 күн бұрын
@@chubbydevon2466 if you use the hoyolab, this link should send you to my battle log page and you can see Al my relics there! act.hoyolab.com/app/zzz-game-record/m.html?hyl_presentation_style=fullscreen&bbs_auth_required=true&game_id=8&user_id=108201758&uid=108201758&gid=8&#/zzz/roles/1261/detail?role_id=1700009414&server=prod_gf_sg
@ZyxenZ-z2x
22 күн бұрын
What W engine are you use?
@SirGrindalot
22 күн бұрын
@@ZyxenZ-z2x her signature
@whoisyurychan
8 күн бұрын
How is Jane Grace Seth team perform ? is it good
@SirGrindalot
8 күн бұрын
Jane + Seth is a great pair; for the 3rd character there's more freedom, so Grace, Rina, Lucy, Ceasar....really anyone you have with some sort of synergy is going to be great there
@k3v517
13 күн бұрын
I m trying to do 1 milion damage with her assault My jane has 2430 attack 392 anomaly proficiency 192 anomaly mastery What should i do to improve?
@Moroha-m
13 күн бұрын
My jane: Atk 1910 AP 374 AM 192 Disc 4 (ap) disc 5 (pys%) disc 6 (am%) Core skill lv 6 W-engine rainforest gourmet phase 4 I usually run her with seth and grace and a plugboo (shock bangboo) She usually hits 200k-300k Aren't these numbers a bit low? And do u have any advices to improve her performance? And what about the level of her skills/ what should i level up?
@X10_h4
13 күн бұрын
Make her ap 420 or higher
@SirGrindalot
13 күн бұрын
@@Moroha-m Jane wants 420ap to max all her self buffs, so 374 is a bit low. Attack with a physical disc 5 should be in the 2200+ range, so it's just a matter of getting better substats, you're not far from the target. Her skills level don't do much for her damage, they have no impact on her assault triggers. They just improve the damage of her attacks (which is very low) and the daze multipliers, no need to spend a lot of energy on them!
@dimoseq1291
22 күн бұрын
и всё это с сигной и м1 да да
@michaels2639
21 күн бұрын
what does "m0s1" and "m1s1" stand for? (i'm guessing "m" is for mindscapes but what is the "s" then?)
@tonythepigeon9168
21 күн бұрын
Signature W-Engine refinement
@SirGrindalot
21 күн бұрын
The extra copies of her disc. I have none so "1". I don't know what letter is commonly used in ZZZ; it's S in Honkai Star Rail and R in Genshin Impact.
@A_KawaiiPotato
24 күн бұрын
The sting of losing the 50/50 was alleviated a bit when I got Rina off the standard 🥲
@SirGrindalot
23 күн бұрын
Feelsbadman...but Rina + future guaranteed is not a bad outcome! Plenty of cool characters ahead
@Username-xk9lx
22 күн бұрын
Lost my 50/50 to her twice and she’s my least wanted standard now due to it
@ganyuvision3867
22 күн бұрын
@@Username-xk9lxM1 rina is busted. The extension in pen buff duration that she got from M1 is valuable.
@A_KawaiiPotato
22 күн бұрын
@@Username-xk9lx she was my most wanted due to me getting her weapon 3 times on standard. Needless to say, I was ecstatic. Sorry to hear she's you're least wanted tho
@Rerollful
22 күн бұрын
Still have no idea what 50/50 means I just spend $150 bucks and enjoy getting the character and another S rank at the same time lol (I have a job I don’t mind spending $150 that’s not much at all for me)
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