So Fedor with his dad body was on steroids but Jon Jones who has been caught for them and coke multiple times is still innocent? Come on, Joseph.....
@strider5119
4 жыл бұрын
That's not a dad bod, that's what happens when you take roids and don't work out enough. I have seen it multiple times with people who don't know how to use it
@peteclarke
4 жыл бұрын
CT Fletcher was natural WTF I don't wanna live on this planet any more
@hype5058
4 жыл бұрын
@@strider5119 "dont work out enough" i literally just watched documentary on fedor, dude was working out all day every day
@JamesHussain82
4 жыл бұрын
Strider you sound like someone who takes brain steroids and doesn’t use their brain enough. You’re clueless!!
@robelmekonnen1564
4 жыл бұрын
@@hype5058 Yeah Fedor was a machine. My favorite fighter of all time.
@sakanuian3467
3 жыл бұрын
*Off in the distance a faint voice echoes* “Sup guy, Derek More Plates More Dates”
@blue_ridge_shooting7668
4 жыл бұрын
This guy sounds like a well-educated dude who has no idea what he's talkin about.
@DavidElstob73
4 жыл бұрын
Too busy reading instead of living.
@josephsmith6777
4 жыл бұрын
He is actually a black belt and a teacher at mit soooooo
@robertdunlop5247
4 жыл бұрын
@@josephsmith6777 He needs to do some research.
@theodavis9778
4 жыл бұрын
@_Trav_ Cole: Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ......
@jordandean8338
4 жыл бұрын
@@theodavis9778 And Joe sounds like an uneducated dude who has little idea what he's taking about
@reese8097
3 жыл бұрын
Joe’s the type of guy to accuse Fedor but defend Francis and Yoel to the death.
@DarkShadow-lb2gb
3 жыл бұрын
And Jon Jones.
@cptgibbs4256
2 жыл бұрын
I really don't think Francis is on anything. Jones and Romero? Come on lol I agree whole heartedly
@IaloneAmTHEChoppedONE
Жыл бұрын
He doesn't like russian type guy like Fedor, too real too anti american
@VideoRandomChannel
Жыл бұрын
Where Francis is from and also Naija in Africa they are built like a machine with minimal effort
@jimclaus1576
Жыл бұрын
He’s a cuck weasel piece of sh*t. That’s why! ;)
@Madmac96
5 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for the MIT scientist. He never showed.
@michaelnnaji5974
5 жыл бұрын
You guys are stupid lol MIT guy is a black belt in brazilin jiu jitsu.Guy's he knows what he is talking about lol !He's not coming for a place of ignorance.Two fighters matched even if you are the hulk if you have no technique you are fucked !
@suned6750
5 жыл бұрын
He said witchhunt .....hhhuuuummmmmmm
@Jay-407
5 жыл бұрын
This guy is from Everest
@nwils36
5 жыл бұрын
ooo savage
@DaneJiujitsu
5 жыл бұрын
This is the guy Adam conover calls for steroid advice
@RawJaq
5 жыл бұрын
Fedor fought Vegeta? damn he stronger than i thought.
@5pid3rman80
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah he was part of the Ginyu force...!😂😂
@guygainzzz9960
5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@ViperTechAustralia
5 жыл бұрын
RawJaq 😂
@AK33M
5 жыл бұрын
Fujita
@Shakethatbadboy
5 жыл бұрын
Fedors power level is over 9000!!!!
@graysonred2641
3 жыл бұрын
“I don’t think steroids would help “... he’s clearly out of his depth on this topic.
@intimpulliber7376
3 жыл бұрын
Well yes. I dont know why Hoe even discussed this with him. The MIT guy is obviously uncomfortable since he is a computer scientist🤦♂️
@isaacmills4059
3 жыл бұрын
Right....even if you take them and dont lift a whole lot they will still make you more explosive, faster and better endurance.
@garliconionshallot
3 жыл бұрын
@@intimpulliber7376 nah bro he could strangle you
@intimpulliber7376
3 жыл бұрын
@@garliconionshallot so?
@jasonknowlez
3 жыл бұрын
no kidding! Look at all of the great ufc fighters who have been popped for roids. Jon jones, Vitor Belfort, Dan Henderson, Yoel Romero, Tj dillashaw, so many more I can't think of at the moment.
@peterm.fitzpatrick7735
3 жыл бұрын
When bodybuilders and strongmen drop dead in their early thirties with hearts enlarged twice their normal size on autopsy, it is not rational to say that steroids are not damaging to health. Come on, denial is not just a river in Egypt. Ultimately, it is a question of values. Should you go for momentary glory with a short life, or go natural and expect longevity. It is up to the individual.
@ceez8731
Жыл бұрын
The same people defending them are using them. However there is alot of grey area because there are so many different types of steroids that affect your body differently.
@Psychedelic430
Жыл бұрын
@@ceez8731 Every single steroid that is abused cause the same problems. Orals are much worst than injectables. Diuretics and insulin are much much worst.
@Apezilla
Жыл бұрын
Larry Wheels immediately came to my mind when i read this. That guy is an absolute monster and uses sooo much PED's. He gets his heart and health checked regularly a few times a year but who knows how his health will be years from now.
@gothbuddha4694
Жыл бұрын
Lol this brings to mind ppl treating joe as a high intellectual. I like Joe I listen to the show but he really is just an average knuckle head like anybody with shallow to base knowledge on most everything he talks about
@ouroboroscartel8079
5 ай бұрын
Tbh it’s more due to gh normal steroids don’t have that effect, people need to stop putting everything in one box n gotta inform themselves more cos many things are so much safer than people think n other things that are legal are wayyy worse but since they are monetized they are legal, anyone who thinks it’s something for ‘the good of the people’ is naive af
@nitaisharan265
5 жыл бұрын
Joe "Jon Jones is a clean fighter but Fedor isn't" Rogan.
@MyIceman12345
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah what a joke lol 😂 Jones is always on something lol
@robertkofron47
5 жыл бұрын
Right? What the fuck lol.
@linkbelt111
5 жыл бұрын
Nitai Sharan nobody anywhere is as dirty as Jon...lol
@seajayes
5 жыл бұрын
Careful, man! UFC will abduct u and force you to listen to Joe insistently telling u that Jones is clean till yr brain washed XD
@terrywilson588
5 жыл бұрын
Let yall tell it cocaine was the reason Jones is one of the goats.
@minecraftmike5193
5 жыл бұрын
This is a scientist from MIT and he doesn't think that steroids would make a difference in an elite fighter... DUHHHHHHHHHHHHH
@RasPutintheGreat
5 жыл бұрын
That's because if anyone under steroids get hit in the chin or side of the body it's done.
@DocYAYAYA
5 жыл бұрын
right, TRT Vitor got his own separate highlight reel from normal Vitor
@kelechic.jemelumba9981
5 жыл бұрын
@@RasPutintheGreat steroids helps in a multitude of ways, a fight is not about a knockout, endurance, stamina, strength etc are significant components of the outcome of a fight
@Neon_Rust
5 жыл бұрын
@@DocYAYAYA you can attribute it to that or that he got older or that the competition significantly increased
@oceanwaves83
5 жыл бұрын
It changes your thought process, your confidence, your killer instinct, it can influence decisions, so many mental aspects. Even if they didn't help you physically it could have a huge impact. Simply avoiding that one shot that would've knocked the clean version of yourself out completely changes the outcome of the fight. Think about TJ vs Cody 1 and how TJ barely survived round 1. Without EPO, would he have lost right then? We'll never know.
@caminho7340
3 жыл бұрын
"Everyone was on steroids in Pride" How about the UFC Joe
@dondada7058
2 жыл бұрын
exactly. Even with USADA, I still believe some guys are cheating. Eg. Paulo Costa, Izzy etcetera
@Stonecon
2 жыл бұрын
Technically arent trans women fights on steroids? Or is that "hormone therapy"
@saberxebeck
2 жыл бұрын
@@Stonecon "messy subject" squared their
@rkofu1
3 жыл бұрын
The CT Fletcher comment about being natural was hilarious
@brandons9027
2 жыл бұрын
I cant believe people buy that nonsense. Its insane
@imhungry2387
Жыл бұрын
Lol 😂
@danielr1843
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah hate on Fedor whos has never tested positive but dont hate on Jon jones who has failed twice for steroids and another time. Sorry Joe but WTF
@lc-cf2db
4 жыл бұрын
Thats because he wasnt tested
@stephenbrand5661
4 жыл бұрын
@Daniel R Recognizing reality is not the same as hating. Everybody uses them at that level. You can’t even make it to that level without them.
@donovanm5128
4 жыл бұрын
Stephen Brand nah you’re just dumb
@jn6305
4 жыл бұрын
I don’t think Fedor was taking anything beyond what everybody else takes...but not testing positive doesn’t mean anything. And by the way...they’re all on steroids
@josephmiranda7047
4 жыл бұрын
Daniel R lol he’s not hating on him if everyone in pride was on steroids then it was a even playing field
@gibbethoskins8621
5 жыл бұрын
Should be titled Joe Rogan explains obvious stuff about steroids to MIT scientist
@michaelnnaji5974
5 жыл бұрын
MIT guy is a black belt in brazilin jiu jitsu.Guy's he knows what he is talking about lol !
@TheEvolver311
5 жыл бұрын
I'm shocked how many people keep commenting this as if having qualifications in one area of science means what that they should know everything? I have a degree in applied science in computer technologies, what else should this qualify me to have a level of expertise in? Its seriously a near idiotic thing to point out, like criticizing your primary care physicians abilities because he couldn't answer some question about automotive performance.
@bamadeadhead
5 жыл бұрын
Gibbet Hoskins lmao👍🏼😂👍🏼
@nessfitcoach7401
5 жыл бұрын
TheEvolver311 point is what he said is absolutely moronic for anybody, let alone a “smart” guy that went to MIT
@TheChocolateChamp
5 жыл бұрын
@@TheEvolver311 his education level means he should be able figure it out without being spoon fed an explanation. He doesn't understand how performance enhancing drugs are bad in a full contact sport. They aren't playing golf.
@karlclifford1176
3 жыл бұрын
So Joe Rogan defends Jon Jones for “tainted supplements” but Fedor was on steroids because everyone in Pride was on them? Please stop.
@evanl8656
Жыл бұрын
Yeah lol apparently Sakuraba and Royce (whose dick Rogan sucks for days) were too, although Royce did pop later, but then so we're other Gracie's too cause most of them MFs we're in Pride. In fact, Rickson fought in Pride so Joe is saying that Rickson fucking Gracie was roided out the whole time lol which I am so town for.
@jimclaus1576
Жыл бұрын
Lol!!! 😂 He’s suuuuuuch a little weasel isn’t he?! Lol
@AlexanderFuckerton
3 жыл бұрын
All these people hating on Lex lmao. He doesn’t study steroids and fighting, he studies artificial intelligence. Give him a break
@elgobernadordelserton7901
Жыл бұрын
So why does he speak as if he knew about it? He even proposes to allow them in combat sports, even though he doesn't know about the subject
@AlexanderFuckerton
Жыл бұрын
@@elgobernadordelserton7901 what’s your address again?
@BrandonGard
5 ай бұрын
This dude acts like what a robot would act like
@AlexanderFuckerton
5 ай бұрын
@@BrandonGard you act like someone who’s about to die in a multi vehicle car crash (in Minecraft)
@masterchief5437
2 ай бұрын
Why does he make those assumptions sound like fact?
@Kopi1112
5 жыл бұрын
Please bring Zlatan Ibrahimovic on! He is a Taekwondo blackbelt and a Legend of European Football. Furthermore he is playing for LA Galaxy at the moment
@ThomasWastell
5 жыл бұрын
Dustin K zlatan would be a great shout 👍🏽
@howard1852
5 жыл бұрын
Who?
@howard1852
5 жыл бұрын
Soccer's gay
@llmrwhiskers3546
5 жыл бұрын
Howard uh oh someone wants attention lmao
@Xphyzeek
5 жыл бұрын
Oh fuck yeah
@johnreeves3876
5 жыл бұрын
8:50 "You had C.T. Fletcher here?He's a natural powerlifter." really dude?
@kelainefes
4 жыл бұрын
LOL at CT being natural, he's had multiple heart attacks and surgeries, and right before that happened he had the body of a 30 years old weight lifter on a small amount of steroids, well past his 50s.... If he was exercising naturally he should not have the cardiac problems he's had.
@MarcelAlexandru
4 жыл бұрын
There is also that documentary in which he explains how he felt on steroids. What more proof does one actually need.
@xXlSkULFaC3lXx
4 жыл бұрын
He’s admitted to steroids lmfao. The ignorance of some people, MIT? Foh
@jimmybaldwin737
4 жыл бұрын
xXlSkULFaC3lXx lol. I know. He was on joe rogan talking about using them 😂😂
@ATXJCG
4 жыл бұрын
Can’t tell if he’s trolling or seriously that oblivious lmao
@Rex69Rutherford
3 жыл бұрын
Why is Joe interviewing Harry Potter about steroids?
@mtgtv1384
4 жыл бұрын
I experimented with steroids after reaching what i thought was near my natural limit as a non-competing powerlifter (essentially i trained as a hobby). After using all different amounts of mostly testosterone cypionate and for different lengths of time and experimenting with other variables, confidently, I can say that you will eventually experience heart issues and high blood pressure if supplementing with copious amounts of exogenous testosterone. There was a direct correlation between my blood pressure and how much test i was blasting. However, if you supplement with a therapeutic dose, youre probably doing more good than harm for health, longevity, and mood. Its almost euphoric. I used very few orals, although when i did, my liver numbers were poor, but I didnt experiment with proper variable control enough to reliably say oral steroids are indisputably awful for someone. Occum’s razor would seem to point in that direction, though.
@boastyy
4 жыл бұрын
My mates heart was twice the normal size because of roids. Kept telling him to leave them alone but he would not listen was like an addiction even when he was having health issues. Like everyone never think its going to happen to you.Died too young, I hate the damn stuff.
@mtgtv1384
3 жыл бұрын
Anthony Aguilar Just an fyi, but anyone claiming they put on 20 lbs of muscle in 8 weeks is a liar. 20 pounds of muscle in a year is nearly impossible. Someone may gain 20 lbs, but 17 of it is fat and water, if not more. Typically, on cycle you will gain 1-2 pounds of muscle (if you’re eating enough) and sometimes lean out. No one is doing 8 week cycles in a healthy way, regardless. It’s impossible. The only benefit in using testosterone is for someone who is medically deficient. If a person has low testosterone for their age group, they can supplement with an injection, ranging from 20-50 mg a week. Any more than that (and probably even 50 mg a week) will give you super-physiological levels. Testosterone therapy isn’t done in cycles; it’s a life long regimen. I’ve seen just about any study related to T injections, and the data is far from conclusive. There has only been one long term study peer reviewed and done in a scientific method. That study showed that supplementing testosterone in males with low-t and raising their levels to normal lowered their cause-all rate of death. However, I’ve never seen anyone’s blood work from an endocrinologist who actually didn’t have levels that far exceeded the normal range. I was on a therapeutic dose of testosterone for about two years, and before that, ran “cycles” as modest as 50-200 mg a week for 8-12 weeks, which is extremely low dose. All together, I experimented with T for about 7 years, including 4-6 month breaks between a couple cycles. You will get high blood pressure and most definitely will have an increased chance of blood clots because your red blood cell count goes through the roof.
@mtgtv1384
3 жыл бұрын
Anthony Aguilar Regarding the random name dropping: where is your source? It’s physically impossible to gain 20 pounds of muscle in 8 weeks. That’s an average of 2.25 pounds a week for 8 consecutive weeks. Dude, look at two and a quarter pounds of ground beef and imagine dispersing that around your body as if it were muscle play-doh. Are you starting to see how crazy this is? Please don’t be brainwashed my rag magazines at a newsstand with the latest super hero on the cover. None of those people have, neither has anyone, ever. If you gained 5 pounds of muscle, you would look like a completely different person. Five pounds of muscle is insane. Second, regarding your interpretation of benefits of testosterone: my comment was pertaining to longevity, health and mortality. “Physical changes” are inversely proportional to longevity. I thought context clues made that pretty clear, in addition to the other posts in the thread. Of course if you use testosterone, you will generally get bigger, stronger, and leaner. No one is suggesting otherwise. Mortality is the issue. Did you read my comment in entirety before morphing into offended troll mode? To reiterate, anything more than a therapeutic dose is going to cause adverse side effects, sooner than later. Usually high blood pressure. Even on a therapeutic dose, your red blood cell count becomes so enormous that you usually are suggested to give blood every 3-4 months to counteract the effect. Otherwise, you will be at risk for blood clots.
@xxnonstopdancingxx
3 жыл бұрын
what is therapeutic in your view and what is copious? Interested to see the context of the two or at least the difference
@mtgtv1384
3 жыл бұрын
xxnonstopdancingxx therapeutic would imply that an amount of testosterone was used to raise a patient’s free testosterone levels to normal range from low range. Anything super-physiological would constitute a dose that is not therapeutic.
@robiulahmed
5 жыл бұрын
MIT guy: At this level, I don't think steroids help. Joe: Yes they do. MIT guy: oh.
@michaelnnaji5974
5 жыл бұрын
MIT guy is a black belt in brazilin jiu jitsu.Guy's he knows what he is talking about lol !
@daveking6192
5 жыл бұрын
Michael Nnaji the Most corrupt sport in the world for elite members being on steroids
@IskurBlast
5 жыл бұрын
@@michaelnnaji5974 Really? That is kind of the problem. He is a blackbelt in BJJ. He is simply far better than most of the guys he rolls against. He isn't however an elite fighter. Im certain he hasn't faced too many elite athletes who ave similar skill level to him. When you reach elite levels, not just in combat sports but all sports, you have a greater understanding of the role physical ability plays in winning or losing. If you are used to going against tomato cans you simply wont understand that.
@UFC_Buffalo
5 жыл бұрын
@@michaelnnaji5974 lol but under who? The Nogiuera Brothers??
@jefferyburns5808
5 жыл бұрын
UFC Buffalo awesome!
@Jattmafia313
5 жыл бұрын
This guy said CT Fletcher is natural 😂
@2BaSedP0l0Swagq
5 жыл бұрын
Sick Revolting Piss He is, so was my favorite natural bodybuilder Rich Piano
@Jattmafia313
5 жыл бұрын
KodakBlacksBrain rip sweet prince
@SwadianKnight101
5 жыл бұрын
KodakBlacksBrain shut the fuck up idiot. Rich Piana was never s natty you fucking inbred. And don’t you dare disrespect him you little fuck. He talks in great depth about his use of steroids you fuck.
@Aaroncoop9162
5 жыл бұрын
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA
@Aaroncoop9162
5 жыл бұрын
Steven , i think he was being sarcastic. Because Rich is like the most unnatural bb there is.
@satan4o
3 жыл бұрын
CT Fletcher being natural always gets a chuckle out of me.
@oatesi
4 жыл бұрын
When your sarcasm game is so strong that people don't know that you're being sarcastic.
@kenneththomas2032
5 жыл бұрын
Fedor had the most explosive speed at any weight. That's what made him the greatest. He looked like he was fighting for his actual life every time when he was young
@JohnDoe-id1es
5 жыл бұрын
Kenneth Thomas really cool to be able to have watched him come up. Super exciting...
@kenneththomas2032
5 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-id1es watching ufc when it first started was ridiculous. Pride was really cool compared to ufc back then
@mineduck3050
5 жыл бұрын
Good way to put it. Fedor once said he once had no money and no food for his family. Now he has money, he has food. He sees his opponent as someone who wants to take this away from his family. That man must be destroyed. You may be able to stop that with physics, like a kick to the head or something, but you sure as SHIT arent going to DEFEAT that. His fucking ghost will try and destroy you next. When he bacame rightfully huge and practically mythical, survival was done, and in a very humble amd honest act he became gently motivated by god in his fights. Monk like persona. I dont think this new focus, pkus just the love of competition, kept him driven enough to evolve. There was entropy of motivation. Quite the natural progression, not suprising for such an individual.
@coltonw8686
4 жыл бұрын
People will never know how incredible he really was.
@ceemillz215
5 жыл бұрын
So he believe Fedor was on steroids... but refuse to believe even with positive tests and some pulsing effect bullshit that Jon Jones never took roids.... ok
@stevenbishop8625
4 жыл бұрын
yeah rogan's always defending the fighter he's riding, jones , khabib etc
@NUTRITIONALDIVERSITY
4 жыл бұрын
Jones passed lie detector. Never used steroids intentionally
@johnfalcetta5431
4 жыл бұрын
@@NUTRITIONALDIVERSITY hahahahaha yeah a lie detector thats hilarious. They're so inaccurate they're not admitted in court
@johnfalcetta5431
4 жыл бұрын
Joe believes Tito was clean too
@grubbybum3614
4 жыл бұрын
@@NUTRITIONALDIVERSITY dude, lie detection is bullshit
@wvb6289
4 жыл бұрын
Fedor is a great athlete, but he doesn't look like a steroid user to me. He looks more like a plumber.
@ja-nl2lv
4 жыл бұрын
Neither did Machinda. Fedor was on gear--everyone was in Pride. Jon Jones is also on steroids, for sure.
@andrewmckeown6786
4 жыл бұрын
1 plumber checking in. I dont look (or fight) like Fedor👍
@dankokovacevic
4 жыл бұрын
@@ja-nl2lv I was happy when whole world discovered Carl Lewis ("Who cares if I failed doping test"), Tyson Gay, Marion Jones, Lance Armstrong, Ryan Lochte were exposed as cheaters! That just shows you US hypocrisy and PR machine! Fedor destroyed everyone in his prime, and he was lighter and shorter than most of opponents! I would like to see Fedor and Rogan fighting each other 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Fedor did for MMA more than any other fighter in history of the sports!
@ja-nl2lv
4 жыл бұрын
@Ostap Bender what are you BABBLING about??? Lololol!
@travispenningon
4 жыл бұрын
@Wvb 628 Fedor is a fighter not a bodybuilder. You can't see strength, endurance, agility, athleticism. Fighters train for performance. Bodybuilders train for a beauty paginate their goals are authentic to look strong to look in shape look athletic without being athletic. You can use steroids either way what ever your goal maybe but fat loss and muscle size/definition doesn't equal steroids use just look at strongman athletes.
@nvi5ion622
3 жыл бұрын
Fedor "The Last Emporer" Emelianenko!! That dude is the man. It'd always seem like he was getting the short end of the stick in his fights yet he would always pull away with 1 perfectly timed AND placed shot that would turn the fight around. He would always be underestimated since he looks like a normal guy in every way, but he was a master and always used patience and excellence to take the win. My kind of fighter...smarts, perseverence & no bullshit.
@DelasVC
2 жыл бұрын
What‘s often a little bit overlooked with him is that he was incredibly agile for a fighter of that size! He was able to throw punches that were not only powerful but fast as f***** as well!
@kkonaowner2395
Жыл бұрын
@@DelasVC some people have that switch that makes you go 100%
@xaptronic
5 жыл бұрын
This video should be called "Joe Rogan Discusses Steroids with man wearing black tie"
@malenotyalc
4 жыл бұрын
Lol he said steroids don't help. Joe immediately says you are wrong and lists off how they help. Joe might have had a more intelligent conversation with a random dude on DMT that a didn't go to MIT.
@malenotyalc
4 жыл бұрын
Even superhumans need to recover from exercise/tearing muscles - and steroids speed that up. It is proven that it helps everyone from the string bean to the giant alike. And if you can recover quicker you can grow muscles and work out more often than others and grow even more - it just snow balls.
@daltron4020
4 жыл бұрын
Some people do not respond to steroids as well. I've taken them with no increases or benefits.
@malenotyalc
4 жыл бұрын
I bet Daltron you did not work out hardcore, get good sleep and eat right. You still need to do that to build muscle - and athletes already do that - but steroids let muscles recover faster and tell the body to build even more muscle than without the steroids. There are ton of people that take steroids and don't work out or give their body the protein needed and then say steroids didn't do shit for them, because they just wanted to take them and be lazy...
@daltron4020
4 жыл бұрын
Sure but I know this is youtube and all but I've deadlifted 500x7 not on cycle, 550 for 2 reps and this is at 6'0 185lbs, bench 275x4 reps, ect. at the time I had a very good physique. All I did was eat sleep train and after 1 year of researching aas I decided to use it and did proper pct protocol, even hcg with it ect. All i'm saying is there are non-responders, and with 400 test E, 400 deca and 700 winstrol per week, you should gain 1lbs of weight, even if just water from test. Bloodwork confirmed test was through the roof, sex drive had 0 increase as well for example even with 700 test prop on another cycle/lab.
@jondoc7525
3 жыл бұрын
You have genetics to how you respond . You were past your genetic limit and probably gained in ways you don’t understand . Bone density increases, vision enhancements etc . Hyper absorbability . You needed to eat more then your metabolic maintenance . At least 6k a day
@gh4414
3 жыл бұрын
Love Lex. Logic first my man. Also personally, I would make the argument that steroids are dangerous. My father died from an enlarged heart from taking them, he was a body builder. I think with proper education and depending on what is used for it’s safe. Sports wise it’s a no.
@colechillen7700
3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else shocked an MIT scientist gave no technical input at all?
@juuglord8509
3 жыл бұрын
The title is a little misleading. Lex is a Computer Scientist and his specialty is A.I. He's also a martial artist so the topic came up naturally as their conversation developed. It'd be different if he was a biologist or chemist for example.
@CROutdoorAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
You might not like it, but Fedor is the male peak physical form.
@cardude1992
4 жыл бұрын
Pure alpha caveman body lol
@Q60Godzlla
4 жыл бұрын
CRO Adventures lmao
@unusualbydefault
4 жыл бұрын
Matter of fact, this is actually true
@thefakeserenity_3247
4 жыл бұрын
Your actually right though.
@nickc4853
4 жыл бұрын
Says fat guys that can't cut that last 5%
@dcox5555
4 жыл бұрын
“I think Fedor was on steroids.” “How dare you sir.” Lol
@ezraorlofsky7809
4 жыл бұрын
what do ppl think of 20-hydroxyecdysone its an insect hormone produced by a plant i am researching and in some papers i've seen reference to anabolic activity. any personal experience?
@ericseawright8476
4 жыл бұрын
“You should drink water” as I remember I’ve only drank oj and chocolate milk for 7 days
@bladestormviking
4 жыл бұрын
::sniff sniff:: "everyone's on drugs" ::sniff sniff:: is that right joe????
@bmillerdrums
5 жыл бұрын
This video has been brought to you by TRT and DMT. The modern day hunter/gatherer's recipe for success. Warning: Kids don't eat candy, listen to Eddie Bravo, or try ANY of this at home.
@goodolarchie
5 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about, kids eat candy all the time
@orthocatsr.8723
3 жыл бұрын
Everytime chael went in, Fedor did a magical street fighter 2 mid air reversal flip until he had to take a breath... I think that's skill
@hectorgarza5205
4 жыл бұрын
I agree with Joe about the comparison in health problems. With opiates alcohol etc.
@TheKcoolman
4 жыл бұрын
I closed this video as soon as they said C.T Fletcher is natty...
@christophergreen2106
4 жыл бұрын
TheKcoolman just arrived there. What a jokeeeee
@danehales2021
4 жыл бұрын
IKR. Even if he was telling the truth when he was on the podcast ( he said he only used once for about a year) that would still change your genetics forever
@frankomalley8034
4 жыл бұрын
Lol idk how people believe ct Fletcher is natty.. obviously they don't know shit about working out or steroids
@ramonalzate
4 жыл бұрын
Hahahhaa
@radoslavtodorov6923
4 жыл бұрын
@@frankomalley8034 and thank god you do
@MukimukiRunner
5 жыл бұрын
Did that guy just say CT Fletcher... was a natural power lifter...
@ryannath85
5 жыл бұрын
Yep. Because CT is all natural. Hard work that's it.
@schackmountain
5 жыл бұрын
@@ryannath85 moron. Power lifting organizations do some sort of drugtesting, but they are far from complete.
@ryannath85
5 жыл бұрын
@mike fightfan 325lbs is achievable naturally. Joe Rogan is a steroid expert and says CT is natural.
@tommymorrison103
5 жыл бұрын
Lonzo Gastineau powerlifting literally has never had a natural lifter before lmao, they’re all on steroids, I got a pretty mean deadlift and I promise if you gave me steroids I could increase that number by 100 pounds
@tommymorrison103
5 жыл бұрын
Lonzo Gastineau 325 is achievable naturally but CT is most certainly not natural lol, dude is bigger than Kimbo Slice who was also on steroids
@kevincassman6214
4 жыл бұрын
Joe talking about the safety of steroids: “Where are the bodies?” Bodybuilders who barely live past 50 before getting kidney failure or a heart attack: “Yeah steroids are super healthy”
@vvvss-cx1vd
4 жыл бұрын
Kevin Cassman in all fairness bodybuilders absolutely abuse steroids whereas these fighters are probably on barely as much as bodybuilders
@vvvss-cx1vd
4 жыл бұрын
Eye Ball Paul true, sort of like alcohol I suppose
@ouroboroscartel8079
5 ай бұрын
Bruh bodybuilders take it very much to the extreme most people aren’t doing grams of test n dbol n tren etc… on top of that they use dnp n all sorta crazy shit, tbh any normal cycle isn’t that bad it’s all the other stuff that fucks people up n even there it’s up to the individual to not go overboard
@leonconnelly5303
3 ай бұрын
Bodybuilders take way more steroids then pro athletes
@underballbutter
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed on the future being a clean league and an enhanced league. Kind of like a prototype fully purpose built racecar division and a separate homologation streetlegal roadcar racing division
@zer0gravity184
5 жыл бұрын
That's not a scientist from MIT, that's a scientist from MIB. He's probably not even human, a hybrid at best.😦😂
@bab3293
4 жыл бұрын
Heeeeelarious. Here come the scientist in black!!
@samuelmay4823
4 жыл бұрын
No Joe monopolized the discussion because he has an established 'take' on the issue.
@beepboop1748
4 жыл бұрын
8:49 “CT fletcher natural bodybuilder” 🤦♂️
@tsalvo9290
4 жыл бұрын
😅😅😅
@gabrielbalta2634
4 жыл бұрын
Anyone googling 5 mins would find out more about steroids than that dumbass
@justinjtv4089
3 жыл бұрын
"its a legacy killer" but to be fair it was the legacy maker too so without it there would be no legacy to start..
@joshuaddandridge1046
2 жыл бұрын
“If you’re not willing to take steroids then maybe being a champion isn’t for you.” -Mark Bell
@Max-et9uy
5 жыл бұрын
So joe thinks that fedor was on steroids but says that Yoel is just genetic hmm
@73kimura
5 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHA Yoel looks inflated
@Max-et9uy
5 жыл бұрын
El Chapo Testing means nothing seeing how there’s so many fighters getting away with it
@CoffeeCartel666
5 жыл бұрын
Max 123 tho zero evidence for your claim unless you are an elite sports person evading positive tests
@Max-et9uy
5 жыл бұрын
El Chapo it’s pretty obvious that people like Francis nangau, Yoel and Tyron woodley are on roids especially seeing how they’re such active athletes that do high pace training for hours everyday and don’t just focus on body building exercises yet look like ones. I also done Francis Naganos bmi and anything over 26 means you’re on steroids and his was 29.
@DrAdnan
5 жыл бұрын
Just because you have a PhD in math or some other subject doesn’t mean you’re knowledgeable in other subjects 🤷♂️
@plexerdubstep
5 жыл бұрын
He is also a black belt in b jiu jitsu
@michaelnnaji5974
5 жыл бұрын
Yup so all you motherfuckers can stfu
@TheChocolateChamp
5 жыл бұрын
It's common sense. Performance enhancing drugs shouldn't be in contact sports period. Even a child can understand that much.
@jamesmiller9617
5 жыл бұрын
Zack Plex shotgun>black belt
@APEX-qv7rm
5 жыл бұрын
@@TheChocolateChamp I agree ...But Sollution is to have 2 Legues Natural Legue ...and the Juice Head Legue
@dibbage
4 жыл бұрын
0:30 Joe was about to enter his girly voice but decided "nah"...
@gurjastoor9303
3 жыл бұрын
Lmaoi
@kashlorwebb
3 жыл бұрын
I heard him say “steroids wouldn’t help a guy like that & clicked off”
@Unknown-ot1zr
5 жыл бұрын
How is Joe gonna call Fedor a PED cheat, while insisting that Romero isn't despite him testing positive....
@hahadasitmane
5 жыл бұрын
listen to the one of the podcasts with Callen where he says that if Lebron put a ton of work into comedy that he would be superior to Callen in every way
@MrWesWeston
5 жыл бұрын
@@hahadasitmane alot of that shit in hollywood
@thecurious926
4 жыл бұрын
The fact that romero was able to prove contamination of supplements?
@thecurious926
4 жыл бұрын
@Henry1183 yeah it is weird. Whats also weird is that he was able to prove it. From what i hear , proving contamination is hard. If he had that type of power he wouldnt be fighting in ufc.
@thecurious926
4 жыл бұрын
@Henry1183 again, if ue was that important , he would be crazy rich...and maybe wouldnt have been caught in the first place
@nachodick7791
5 жыл бұрын
Start a new division just for all the steroid fighters to go at it
@candacecravesblackcockcovi2774
5 жыл бұрын
Nacho Dick this would be awesome! Instead of just Jon Jones fighting clean fighters
@Savage-mb6zz
5 жыл бұрын
Que Far dude that’s so true
@5p00kh4rdc0r3
4 жыл бұрын
I am argueing for exactly that in all kinds of sports!
@afhostie
4 жыл бұрын
That's basically what Pride did, right?
@memyself1868
4 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with that 👍
@urmama54
4 жыл бұрын
8:50 mans said dis with great confidence lolol
@marcinkocur8083
4 жыл бұрын
What would happen if we had a new UFC category? "UFC Hardcore" - that would allow steroids? For both competitors?
@kelainefes
4 жыл бұрын
Whether Fedor took Steroids or other PEDs I can't know for sure, but looking at the picture used to suggest he did, I can say that he doesn't have any of the tell tale signs. No traps, delts and outer quads coming at you in a 3D effect. Roids directly cause that effects because those muscles are more sensitive to the effects of steroids. No vascularity. No out of control hair growth or acne. He clearly has always had male pattern baldness since a young age and if you have that naturally, many types of steroids will shave your head clean in a few months. I don't see any of that, so I will say that maybe he could have been on a light TRT, or maybe he cycled on low doses to enhance recovery and get a boost leading up to a fight, but that he didn't use large doses and/or for extended periods of time.
@michaeldiaz1179
4 жыл бұрын
No one skeletal muscle is more sensitive to androgens than another. Direct/indirect stimulus will cause sharp growth with AAS. Without a stimulus, hypertrophy of skeletal muscle will be extremely difficult. Vascularity is 100 percent dependent on bodyfat percentage. AAS build muscle, they do not burn fat. Calorie deficits causes lipolysis. Male pattern baldness is genetic, those without the gene will not bald even with strong dht derived AAS such as stanozolol. If you have the gene, AAS will exacerbate your condition.
@kelainefes
4 жыл бұрын
@@michaeldiaz1179 The density and number of receptors varies in different areas, this makes some muscle groups more sensitive than others. Fat cells have androgen receptors too, and using androgens allows one to diet without losing muscle, forcing the body to burn more fat than without. Androgens also directly cause angiogenesis, the formation of new blood vessels.
@kelainefes
3 жыл бұрын
@Siren If you are doing a sport like weight lifting or 100m Dash or a marathon, where the physical preparation is what is mostly determining your result, yes, but in fighting the skill element is so crucial that you can be natural and destroy guys on PEDs.
@leonconnelly5303
3 ай бұрын
Jon Jones isn't vascular
@mrrizz0
5 жыл бұрын
Thought he was gunna say “I’m sure you saw that movie rocky iv”
@seanbaugh3239
5 жыл бұрын
I Thought the same thing 😊 *"NUFF SAID"*
@kodysykora5725
5 жыл бұрын
Same 😂
@BWater-yq3jx
5 жыл бұрын
You wrote my comment, lol.
@onlyme9254
4 жыл бұрын
I've never even tried to look at my feet when I'm running! If I do it's bang, lamp post, lights out! 🤕
@ih8google
4 жыл бұрын
This dude has the impression and personality of wallpaper that’s learned how to talk.
@timmysvensson4902
Жыл бұрын
How does your comment hold up? 😅
@plain-bagel
4 жыл бұрын
MIT scientist: "I don't think steroids would help." Me, an intellectual: Umm.
@dominiccampeau9037
3 жыл бұрын
certainement pas le bon choix d’interlocuteur pour discuter de ce sujet. Il aurait dû en parler avec un médecin
@TheUnone
2 жыл бұрын
So you didn't listen what he said after, correcting himself? You are that disfunctional? Intellectual of what level? xD
@terrafilms9761
5 жыл бұрын
Joe is under every nook and cranny on KZitem.
@benjaminyu8545
5 жыл бұрын
Not mewing tho
@mrtambourineman6107
5 жыл бұрын
Dont watch the KZitem bro
@lsubeast16
5 жыл бұрын
D.T. Baker you must be a new watcher, keep watching and you’ll dislike him
@drakeboger1741
5 жыл бұрын
LetsMakeAChange how can u dislike joe rogan? Such a down to earth guy
@bummybear7218
4 жыл бұрын
Could someone please explain what ETO is? Thank u
@zacharyzoet3046
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad those people are out there, too.
@britvroman
5 жыл бұрын
8:50 "CT Fletcher natural bodybuilder". lol
@damondoran3945
4 жыл бұрын
Fedor always looked like someone who ISN'T on steroids...Rogan won' t let it go...maybe Fedor kicked his dog?
@fattony123082
4 жыл бұрын
Damon Doran - Fedor admitted that he doesn’t feel pain. Just imagine being in a fight and you didn’t feel getting smashed right in the nose. He’s got top-notch endurance from training and probably genetics. I sort of think Fedor is truly a cyborg after the Chernobyl explosion sending radiation over his house Making him invincible !!!!!
@Elefontify
4 жыл бұрын
@Nathan Bracey except you have no idea. He doesn't look like he was on roids which is the most obvious sign...see Overeem and he never tested for anything unlike half the UFC and his fighting style was the opposite of a roided guy. He didn't use brute strength or power but was an amazing tactician and won usually by strategy and skill which steroids has nothing to do with. Rogan accuses someone with a round unmuscular body who never tested positive snd never mentions John Jones, Overeem, Dos Santos, Mir, Snnen, Lesnar etc
@cavedweller364
4 жыл бұрын
If fedor kicks a dog that dog dies and folds in half
@PakiFighter
4 жыл бұрын
Damon Doran you know damn right....
@Anthonydu01630
4 жыл бұрын
joe It doesnt mean anything man John jones never look muscular but he was on steroid, some people jus dont have a good genetic to build muscle, and some people will look better without steroid than someone on steroid so you cant say because he doesnt look muscular that he is clean
@eludingSirens
3 жыл бұрын
This is like a regular JRE in reverse.
@ridiska99
3 жыл бұрын
1:34 they're talking about Netflix documentary called "icarus"
@caseyporter499
4 жыл бұрын
One of the most naive scientists I’ve seen on the show
@--_V_--
5 жыл бұрын
I'll tell you what's not fascinating, listening to this guy talk. I'm saving this for when I wanna fall asleep. god damn.
@joshuaoneill3118
5 жыл бұрын
He has the personality of a doorknob.
@rookyofficial
5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I love JRE, but this dude’s 2 appearances may hold the title for most lifeless and boring
@JohnDoe-id1es
5 жыл бұрын
Zzzzzzzz.......Zzzzzzz......
@apmm4209
4 жыл бұрын
Joe has a lot of the sniffles! I wonder what he's been putting up there ? 😆
@j.jasonsantilli297
3 жыл бұрын
Yo I was thinking the same... he does it on a few others I can't not notice now...😆
@sobesthename
4 жыл бұрын
Joe "knows it all" Rogan.
@prazertv
5 жыл бұрын
This MIT Scientist is making other MIT Scientists look really bad.
@ChynaVirus
4 жыл бұрын
Steroid conversation....”MIT scientist” showed up to a gun fight with a water pistol.
@zazampow9657
7 ай бұрын
0:17 Back when Fedor fought Vegeta.
@andrewmachado6967
3 жыл бұрын
The both fighters it will be using and both going to have a edge and no one forcing you to fight.
@djbdwdwjb
5 жыл бұрын
Zlatan ibrahimovic, bring him on the podcast
@andremalheiro8869
5 жыл бұрын
His ego don t fit in the building 😁😁i think it would be great thou
@KingTeej92
5 жыл бұрын
@@andremalheiro8869 his nose won't fit in the building.
@danielpere9559
5 жыл бұрын
I wanna see Ibrahimovic facing a fighter. He is such a tough guy in the football world, let him meet some real man.
@DelasVC
2 жыл бұрын
Which movie were they talking about?
@beckettfarkas4296
3 жыл бұрын
"I'm glad those people are out there..." lmao
@dynamitecity9667
4 жыл бұрын
So as Mark Hunt said, if someone killed someoned in the octagon, and that person was then found to have steroids in their system, should they then be arrested given the advantage they had over their oponent?
@JoshuaOtusanya
5 жыл бұрын
If you’re reading this I wish you major success in 2019. Be well and stay in touch! :) -Josh Otusanya
@trist7946
5 жыл бұрын
no
@WRESTLINGDAVE12
5 жыл бұрын
Bastard
@thegiftedone
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks cockbag!
@GodsCosmicBollock
5 жыл бұрын
Sorry Josh, it's a nice sentiment but I guess trying to be nice on the youtube comment section doesn't always go that well!
@JoshuaOtusanya
5 жыл бұрын
nameuser4761 lmao right! 😂
@allracinggames9290
2 жыл бұрын
what movie are they talking about ?
@askham1010
2 жыл бұрын
I love that ending statement
@FitDemo
5 жыл бұрын
When will do a podcast with Dr. Tony Huge?
@th33mad_hatter45
5 жыл бұрын
That would be epic asf
@thottydagod457
4 жыл бұрын
That MIT dude was such a great guest..I really need to make some time to watch the whole podcast
@valkyr_rl7169
3 жыл бұрын
“CT Fletcher is natural” 😂😂😂
@PartyMyrtle
Жыл бұрын
Why not have two categories with and without? It’s like soda regular and diet.
@williamdolan2673
5 жыл бұрын
'Bigger, Stronger, Faster' is a great doc. Apparently, Hulk "take your vitamins, say your prayers, do your homework" Hogan dabbled in PEDs a tad. Mind blown. My childhood was a lie.
@DerrenBrown100
5 жыл бұрын
'I don't think steroids would help'. That guys from MIT? wtf
@rickc2102
5 жыл бұрын
"Maybe I'm naive." Yes sir, you are.
@ac21cody8
5 жыл бұрын
DerrenBrown100 he’s probably not going to know this kind of stuff very much because it’s not his profession or hobby; Kind of judging him for one statement
@Ryan-cs3uc
5 жыл бұрын
Little_Mac_Main I think people are judging him because it’s common sense that steroids improve performance.
@michaelnnaji5974
5 жыл бұрын
@@rickc2102 You guys are stupid lol MIT guy is a black belt in brazilin jiu jitsu.Guy's he knows what he is talking about lol !
@TheEvolver311
5 жыл бұрын
@@michaelnnaji5974 I think its more that he is only considering well known applications like body building. Most people don't stop to consider that if you do roids you can skill train grappling, striking etc...a vast amount more than a person who is training clean.
@Kezadome
3 жыл бұрын
Like most supplements/medication if u abuse it...It can hurt you very much or take your life. If u use it correctly and safely. Majority of the time you will be fine.. my opinion and understanding that is...
@Dogface1984
4 жыл бұрын
Where do you even get steroids? I’m tryin to do a line of EPO
@ryannorris7413
5 жыл бұрын
C.T Fletcher Natural?? Lol this guy?
@MrJtin69
5 жыл бұрын
I spit out my water when I heard that laughing so hard hahahaha
He just had 4x Big Macs with fries and 4x milkshake for lunch, he said,,,
@brianserious
5 жыл бұрын
@@delicioussidefx hahahahahha and that increases testosterone how
@nama022
5 жыл бұрын
Muahahah... the joke of the day, ladies and gentlemen : (drum roll) CT Fletcher is natural !.. (tada-tsssss)
@robinradema1
5 жыл бұрын
Change the thumbnail! Fedor was never busted for steroids,
@erickf5385
5 жыл бұрын
@Lonao so he was never busted
@RasPutintheGreat
5 жыл бұрын
Russiaphobe
@higherpower254
5 жыл бұрын
It's an even playing field if everyone is on it.
@slick222
3 жыл бұрын
"(Insert favorite vice) is a very complicated discussion"
@Mrgood189
4 жыл бұрын
If there is a "line" for steroids abuse, athletes will find a way to "push" past that line. Big ups for Rogan for his knowledge on PEDw
@jackfahy2283
5 жыл бұрын
Fedor, in my opinion is the greatest MMA fighter of all time.
@MyIceman12345
5 жыл бұрын
Yes i agree 100% Jones never faced monsters like Fedor did and beat them, Fedor has never tested positive for any performance enhacing drugs either ...unlike Jones the junkie and A Silva the user, Fedor beat Giants in his career too for 10 years strait !!! While Silva got beat by Ryo Chonnan in his prime in pride! #FACTS
@jeremiahhosea1140
5 жыл бұрын
He absolutely is. He was TESTED by monsters and beasts and went undefeated for 9 years including some of the greatest fights of all time.
@unknowndriver6652
5 жыл бұрын
If you see the fight between mikro cro cop and fedor its easier to understand how good those two were.. nobody comes close
@CavemanJesus4Life
5 жыл бұрын
Me too, Bas Rutten is 2nd for me.
@CavemanJesus4Life
5 жыл бұрын
@@MyIceman12345And Daiju Takase also tapped A Silva
@theylivewesee1674
5 жыл бұрын
Fedor the ultimate dad bod warrior
@glenndsouza5447
4 жыл бұрын
That's not a dad bod you idiot. He actually works really hard for that. Bert Keischer has a dad bod.
@comfortablynumb2469
2 жыл бұрын
Great point Joe. Comparing opiods and steroids. I never thought of it like that. Steroids do destroy life's and families but compared to legal synthetic heroin, steroids are nothing. Ive never had a family member or friend lie, steal or turn tricks for any steroids.
@dieaking6475
4 жыл бұрын
Now I believe I can become a scientist to ! 🤸
@TrueIgnorance1
5 жыл бұрын
3 minutes into this video and I'm starting to seriously wonder if this guy is a real scientist.
@klavzerblut
Жыл бұрын
A scientist can know a lot about one thing and absolutely nothing about everything else :)
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