Good News, the Jonsbo N4 is Now Available to Buy - s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Ddbew5x It's $75, which does not include the Tax or Shipping, which means that depending on where you live, you are gonna be happy, ok, or tremendously annoyed. Just for a little perspective, the Jonsbo N2 is $77 and the Jonsbo N3 is $88. In short, I have NO idea about how they have worked out this pricing *rubs eyes*. Anyway, we have ordered one for the channel now and the review and build video should be live in the next few weeks (aliexpress!). The link above is affiliated, so me and Eddie (i.e just us at NASCompares) will get a small commission $ if you buy anything. Thank you.
@marti_abernathey
5 ай бұрын
I bought it before watching this. I don’t regret to purchase, but I am leery of the aliexpress stores now after reading the comments
@aisback1990
6 ай бұрын
I didn’t know this existed. Thank you as always. I’ve been itching to do a new build
@nascompares
6 ай бұрын
No worries man. It's a tough one to buy at the minute. Me and Ed are trying to buy one from 4 different retailers and getting NO WHERE. If you find a valid link to buy, throw it here in the comments from everyone!
@francois.m
5 ай бұрын
It seems like they're available on Taobao if you're able to navigate around the site/app
@danmorgan4934
6 ай бұрын
The N4 is intended for a living room environment, unlike the N2/N3 which have a more SOHO look about them. The wooden panel and the drive allocation, and lack of cooling fans screams out 'Living room / Lounge install' to me. For that reason, I think that's why the drive LEDs have not been included. If I had this underneath or near my TV, the last thing I would want distracting me constantly, are 8 HDD LEDs. On an unrelated note, you mentioned 'SATA' several times in the video when I think you meant to say 'SSD' and the PIP video was out of synch with the audio for me by 0.5sec.
@praetorxyn
6 ай бұрын
I want a Jonsbo N3 with mATX support, 120mm / 140mm rear fan(s), and better drive trays, not a Jonsbo N2 with mATX support >_>
@nascompares
6 ай бұрын
THIS
@johnfritz1164
5 ай бұрын
I’m disappointed in the N4. It should have been the N3 with its full height card slots, mATX, and AUDHEID like drive bays. Or the AUDHEID shown here but with full height card slots. Does anyone make a case like this?
@TwistedMe13
6 ай бұрын
If it weren't for the cut down height in mobo compartment it would be almost perfect. That said, I'd make two additional tweaks on top of increasing the height clearance in that compartment from 70mm to 140mm... increase the 120mm fan on the back to 140mm and allow for full ATX PSUs.
@StaK_1980
6 ай бұрын
You are right, this IS a JB 2.5 . This is a NAS case, intended to be kept on your desk ( hence, the wood insert). As to who in their right mind would allocate precious desk space for a NAS ... well, maybe some hipster influencer photographer perhaps. I can't think of another reason. The JB 3 looks like a solid option compared to ... this.
@user-dw2ff3wg5x
6 ай бұрын
FYI, the ariticle on your site has a bit error, only the 4 3.5 drive bay on the left side has backplane, the rest 4 bays on the right side does not due to PSU clearance.
@nascompares
6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the correction buddy. Will amend asap.
@keyboard_g
6 ай бұрын
You shouldn’t need a cartoonishly big cooler in a Nas. Amd and Intel both have solid integrated graphics now. Half height cards can be for storage controller cards.
@jumpierwolf
5 ай бұрын
I can see them making an N5 which will be a bigger version with gpu support and more drive bays.
@jowdyboy
5 ай бұрын
You're wrong about the hot-swapping capabilities of this thing, by the way. Only the 4x left-most 3.5" slots are hot-swapable via the 4x port backplane they include. The other 2x 3.5" and 2x 2.5" slots on the right are not hot-swapable. There is no backplane included with the right-side drives.
@Ali-Bee
5 ай бұрын
well done sir for finding an M-ATX borad with an AGP slot! 😂😂
@KewlkatNDahat
6 ай бұрын
They could have made the case a little bit taller add an extra four drives for 12 Bay and make this a different model.
@nascompares
6 ай бұрын
THIS! Just make the N3, but with the proportions in width that the N4 has to provide an MATX powerhouse NAS
@espressomatic
2 ай бұрын
The only problem I had building out this case is that the PCIe slot cut-outs and screw holes are not properly aligned to the mATX ASROCK board I've installed. The screw holes themselves aren't properly aligned with the slots themselves which can be seen by how the cover plates don't sit centered in the cut-outs. The cut-out on the far right (looking from the back) is also an oddity as it's a small rectangle and not half-height like the others - it's impossible to fit a Mellanox card into that position without modifying the case. Nice case overall, but definitely a sub-$100 build quality. I overpaid significantly by ordering direct from China.
@kgnia
6 ай бұрын
I actually can't wait to buy it, it solves all my problems with planning new system.
@tysunder
6 ай бұрын
It looks like the N5 with full height slots(and hopefully 5 in total) will be desirable case for me(whenever that comes out), i also wish Jonsbo sold swappable backplanes, a U2 or U.3 backplane would be very cool(or even 5.25" bays ), especially with one of those amd EPYC M-ATX motherboards, it would be a powerful little box
@nascompares
6 ай бұрын
U-NAS cases do something like that. Sometimes you can even ask the manf to just swap them out at no charge if you get the right Ali - seller
@tysunder
6 ай бұрын
@@nascompares thank you, time to do some searching!
@TheSpeedbones
6 ай бұрын
they should have used a frame to either use 2,5 or 3,5 ...
@HaimPeretz
5 ай бұрын
I have to admit that the contents of your videos are very good, although sometimes long. thank you very much
@andreas.grundler
6 ай бұрын
My problem with Jonsbo is the availability. I can't find a store in Europe that sells the Jonsbo N3 case at the moment, and I assume the N4 won't be any easier to get either.
@JMaximusIX
6 ай бұрын
I'm literally so frustrated right now, because when I started planning my NAS build just two weeks ago, I wanted to get the Jonsbo N3 and it was available at many online retailers in Germany for ~150€. A few days ago I had everything planned out and wanted to buy it - gone, listed nowhere, can't buy it atm
@nascompares
6 ай бұрын
PREACH!!! I never talk about it much in the vids, but the FULL EXTENT of the hassle in actually GETTING a Jonsbo case for the build videos is insane. I know I made a joke at the start of the Jonsbo N2 and N3 video about delays etc, but so, SO many sellers are seller vapour stock! Or cancel because the price at distribution suddenly shot up 40% and they cannot commit to the price. If/when the N4 is available to buy soon, me and Ed at NASCompares will likely buy 2-3, from different retailers JUST to ensure one bloody arrives. Then giveaway one on the channel or smash the F-ing thing out of sheer frustration
@DippyDolittle
6 ай бұрын
@JMaximusIX I've been in the same rabbit hole for a while (and this chanel doesn't help, everytime i make a final choice, another video appears scuppering my plans, anyway.... ) I ended up buying it from that Ali bloke. Two weeks (ish) door to door, no hidden fees or issues. If that helps ?
@waynetaylor2784
6 ай бұрын
Amazing we have a distributor here in Australia and my 2 x n3 $199 au each delivered or around 100 British pounds delivered
@nickm2724
6 ай бұрын
@@waynetaylor2784 Hi do you have a link to that website ? tia
@gordon861
5 ай бұрын
Perhaps an option in the future for an N4-Tall version so you can fit larger cards and coolers in the top bit, could even give you the option of a couple more SATA bays if you went with shorter cards? It would only be a few minor adjustments to this case.
@fwiler
5 ай бұрын
I wish they made one for 2.5" drives only. Some of us have a plethora of 2.5" ssd's left over from upgrading over the years and could make a nice tiny, quiet nas.
@NamelessProductionStudio
2 ай бұрын
I did want to throw out there that the nvidia 4060 low profile version from gigabyte fits in this perfectly.
@Antimonkat
6 ай бұрын
I was hoping they were going to make it a 10 or 12 bay, oh well. I really don't like the look of the cases anyway, staying with a turnkey option so far
@davidg5898
6 ай бұрын
I think Jonsbo missed the mark with this one. - If it's for NAS use, then why does it only have one 4-port backplane? The right-hand bay with 2x3.5" + 2x2.5" doesn't appear to use a backplane. I realize that PSU cables behind that bay would interfere with a backplane but that could've been solved by mounting the PSU sideways (like a typical SFF or the N3). - If it's for something like an all-in-one mini homelab, or a transcoding media server, or a game server, then the half-height PCIe is very limiting. The mATX compatibility would be great for a multi-purpose server if the case had better the PCIe card compatibility. This case seems to try to hit multiple marks, but doesn't land squarely on any.
@sNaKeEeDK
6 ай бұрын
I really wish it could fit a 140mm-150mm PSU
@Karti200
5 ай бұрын
I think that Jonsbo N4 is more of a "very small video editing rig' than "small home nas" type of case i mean imagine - getting an Xeon based X99 from Ali or something from ERying there - or even mainstream LGA 1700 mobo with "T" series CPU - mix it with low profile A380 (if you want just video editing) or RTX 4060 LP (if you also want to game) and now you can use all that drive space for RAID storage and poof - amazing, small profile video editing rig
@user-kg6uj6ji5p
6 ай бұрын
this is really interesting. chinese has a lot of nas cases from diy with 3d print and ready to build often use m-itx board and full atx psu
@nascompares
6 ай бұрын
Very much so!
@skinnwalk3r586
5 ай бұрын
i feel like they've backwards of stuff, so i'll be ordering a n3 for my own as i am going to be using 8 3.5 inch drives and a ssd as a cache drive while using the lsi sas 9260-8i
@TandyOne
6 ай бұрын
How about a community designed case? We could pool our ideas together and come up with something that would appeal to a larger audience.
@PetrKlapper
6 ай бұрын
It's not passive ventilation when the inevitably close CPU cooler will suck the outside air right inside and spread it around in a smaller space. Also why the need for never-ending bay growth? 8 or 6+2 is plenty for a certain segment when the drives are getting bigger, especially with such a 'design piece'. And it clearly goes for some middle ground intentionally as a feature, not just following the bigger/more=better.
@heirtothethrone000
6 ай бұрын
Personally I kind of like the N4. I had looked at the N2 and the N3 in the past and thought the N2 was too for what I needed and the N3 didn't have the dual slot on the back but nothing will ever suit everyones needs. I think most of the people who don't like this are the people who love big NAS and PC cases, like over kill and have the space but a lot of people are trying to down size. To each their own but I would buy this especially with the options of computer parts today to build a nice NAS.
@nadtz
6 ай бұрын
To be fair for my use this would be perfect. HBA and high speed NIC would be the 2 PCIE slot's I'd want for a NAS and this would fit that without having to worry about overheating. If I hadn't grabbed a 22u rack to rebuild all my homelab systems into I probably would have grabbed one of these but HL15 it is!
@nascompares
6 ай бұрын
I mean..re:that 22U...lovely bit of kit to work from. Nice
@nadtz
6 ай бұрын
@@nascompares Looks pretty barren right now with a 1u server and 2U UPS but 2 4U servers will be in there soon! thanks for another great video btw.
@EvilMmM
6 ай бұрын
ohhh let's seee!
@DippyDolittle
6 ай бұрын
Of course there is a N4 on the way, just as my N3 arrived! 🙄
@nascompares
6 ай бұрын
Tbh, unless you were eying up an MATX board, the N3 is an exceptionally good NAS case regardless
@DippyDolittle
6 ай бұрын
@nascompares I was for the options of expansion boards. But looking at your review / screenshot. Still looks like an sfx power and low profile cards, so maybe not that bigva loss (is what I am now telling myself on loop 😉)
@madnlooney
6 ай бұрын
Likewise but I think the N3 is perfect for my need
@primedew4501
6 ай бұрын
waiting for this video for 2 days
@nascompares
6 ай бұрын
Hope it lives up to the wait *hides under desk*
@primedew4501
6 ай бұрын
@@nascompares dissappointed with the half pcie....... it's a dealbreaker
@Galy4a
5 ай бұрын
Keep in mind that only the four left disks have hotswap
@carymcc3280
5 ай бұрын
No fans in the top is not ideal. Why? M.2 and other peripherals heat. No m.2 will dissipate heat by itself. I had to add a 140mm fan zip tied to the top lid of my N2. Works well but it’s jenky. They should allow fans to be screwed to the top lid.
@InspectorGadget2014
6 ай бұрын
I would take a wild guess that Jonsbo looked into their existing customers and opted what those customers actually are using. And "tuned" their design for the N4 to what they expect their future customers wanted. Where they dropped audio, LED's etc because "nobody" (pun intended) used it? All of course a wild guess. Let's hope that the N5 will bring back reality....
@problem9
6 ай бұрын
Of course jonsbo make m-atx, after I bought silverstone cs382, few weeks back :)
@nascompares
6 ай бұрын
This is a bit of a compromised MATX tbh, you have no reason to have buyers remorse man
@HaimPeretz
5 ай бұрын
Thanks fot the review. Can you fit gpu card like Quadro p2200 inside this case?
@JohnPonthecuff
6 ай бұрын
My jonsbo N3 has 2 X SSD drives next to 6 normal 3.5 inch drives. Just used an adapter. The N4 takes away from the freedom of having 8 drives of my choosing. , but then it looks like the PSU is in the way from fitting a 3.5 inch drive. Actually it looks like they are creating products that are not necessarily better than thier predecessors.
@MenaceInc
6 ай бұрын
I don't think the half-height restriction is a problem for me as I would only want a better NIC and a small cooler should be fine if i was sticking with a 65W CPU. Having two of the drives be 2.5" and the wooden accent are putting me off though
@nascompares
6 ай бұрын
I just wish this system didn't feel like a Jonsbo N2..but with MATX support.
@jeremyfmoses
6 ай бұрын
It looks like the drive cages are detachable. Perhaps (if enough people ask?) Jonsbo will sell the 4x 3.5" drive cages separately if you'd prefer 8x 3.5".
@nascompares
6 ай бұрын
Unlikely, they are pretty much embedded with these tray/handle design. But we can always hope
@esunisen3862
6 ай бұрын
Won't fit because of the PSU.
@jeremyfmoses
6 ай бұрын
@@esunisen3862 Good point - ah well, 6 bays is enough for my use case.
@MyersJ2Original
6 ай бұрын
Your audio sync when you when picture in picture is way off. They boinked this. I need an 8bay version of this for 3.5" drives (*with some ssd space hiden elsewhere.) There should be two varients of this. Otherwise you might as well get the smaller case. I agree with you though, basically they could have fixed the half hight problem AND the drive bay issue im complaining about in one fix. Make the top higher, like the full hight cases they make. Then you could have a normal side PCIe card(s), more CPU cooling and some of that space could maybe be used for 2.5" ssd/HDD space, while still having 8 full 3.5 bays at the bottom. Things like sound are not needed by everyone, but for some its a deal breaker. This case wasn't thought thru IMO. Front panel USB C would be good for people who need to plug in external SSDs and such to offload lots of data. It'd be possible to plug directly in and copy via phone interface if it had it. But without you need a powered on PC/MAC and that PC/Mac needs a high speed networking to be fast. USB C/ 3.2 type A would have been so much faster. Other issues are the way the drives are configured. There is only one 4 port backplane and what about the other side (I think)? This is half baked.
@modx5534
6 ай бұрын
I guess I have to wait until the Jonsbo N5 arrives to finally have a good alternative to my fractal 804 case^^ Edit: I really dislike having to use half-height PCIE cards...
@nascompares
6 ай бұрын
It's a bit of a kick in the *PCIe Lanes*, yeah
@esunisen3862
6 ай бұрын
I have a Node 804 too (8 drives + custom loop), actually the only missing thing is a SAS backplane.
@zazelskycrest2525
6 ай бұрын
good video, any update for the CWWK amd board testing?
@nascompares
6 ай бұрын
ECC testing took place (short now live), but performance testing and power testing is low happening in a new video. Will make more sense in the N305 video next Friday. Actually, ping me an email (you can probably guess it) and I'll send you an unlisted early access link. Long story short, gonna start a bigger test series and comparisons on the top 5 boards, so running all tests at once for uniformity
are the jonsbo cases only available on aliexpress? can't find the N3 on german online stores
@truenetgmx
5 ай бұрын
it was released 6 days ago, give ships from china time - month or two.
@citalohammer
5 ай бұрын
@@truenetgmx oh okay, did not know that they are so new
@meccu19
6 ай бұрын
Why they so unstable :( 5,6,8,6 drives... This case with 8 drives can be my choice :(
@kdsteele7
6 ай бұрын
I'll take the superior Fractal Design 804 and save $100!
@theroboticscodedepot7736
6 ай бұрын
Great review but it's a disappointing design.
@nascompares
6 ай бұрын
Not really a review, but I thank you for the kind words. I should have titled this video Jonsbo 2.5
@ChrisVirgilio
6 ай бұрын
Kind of disappointing only room for 6x3.5” HDD. With mATX size one might want to use an HBA. Oh well! I like the aesthetic of this case compared to N3. Choices…
@nascompares
6 ай бұрын
Very good points!
@LiLBitsDK
6 ай бұрын
single pci-e lane... no that is 16 LANES... 1 SLOT... huge difference ;-) wish they would make it SMALLER and just have room for 10-12 2.5" drives instead of those huge noisy slow 3.5" drives
@nascompares
6 ай бұрын
I'm pleased about MATX being opened up..but like many on here...umm..half height..DAMNIT
@ymeshulin
6 ай бұрын
3,5-to-2x2,5 adapters are cheap, you can get those, make sure your PSU has sufficient sata cabling, remove the backplane, and you're golden.
@LiLBitsDK
6 ай бұрын
@@ymeshulinand HOW would that make it SMALLER? oh yeah... it wont... doh...
@vulturemanga9315
5 ай бұрын
disappointing tbh... They still use the shitty rubber bands and they even nerfed the amount of 3.5" drives all while making the case bigger
@nascompares
5 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, yeah, this comment sums it up annoyingly well!
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