Excellent information, especially being able to cook with the slow roller at somewhat higher temperatures. I know there’s a limit to higher temps.
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
thanks so much. yes 500f is the Max for using the SloRoller
@GaryORiveraSr
3 жыл бұрын
@@SmokingDadBBQ they now sell the sloroller for the classic one. Do you really need the rack they sell it with or can I just use my flexible rack (divide and conquer)?
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
@@GaryORiveraSr it’s no longer 18 “ grid to fit so you need the smaller grid to work in series 1 and 2
@arlosaul6587
3 жыл бұрын
I know Im asking the wrong place but does someone know a method to get back into an instagram account? I somehow lost the password. I would love any tricks you can offer me!
@ignaciogrant2226
3 жыл бұрын
@Arlo Saul Instablaster =)
@DrewQuinton
11 ай бұрын
The SDBBQ10 discount code in the video description doesn't work. I'm getting an 'enter valid discount code' error.
@BartlowsBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Great tips and tricks. Love the celery seed tip and started adding that to my cooks. I'll have to experiment with the 1 finger gap and more open top vent.
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
cheers Scott. thanks for watching and glad to have been able to provide a tip to a kJ pro like you
@BartlowsBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Smoking Dad BBQ Thanks, James! You know me, I love constantly learning!
@idozak8650
4 жыл бұрын
Dude!!! WTF happened to your Kamado Joe tables???????????????????????????????????????????????
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
ha! When I got the big Joe I couldn't modify it to accommodate the big joe so i thought I would just build a new one. Who knew it would take all summer to get the replacement classic i ordered lol. thinking about designs now for the new project
@johnamore6486
7 ай бұрын
Does the slow roller allow you to use more of the grilling space (by removing those heat spots). I am in between a classic and big Joe, big figured of if I used the slow roller I could get away with bigger cooks
@cayero
3 жыл бұрын
Sir I used all your recommended tips in your video in order to get a good bark and smoke rings on my Big Joe 2 and I ended up having the most beautiful bark and a super pink and well defined smoke ring on my Choice Beef Brisket. Thank you so much for your videos.
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it. congratulations
@guillermoparedes6450
3 жыл бұрын
Did you use the slow roller?
@cayero
3 жыл бұрын
@@guillermoparedes6450 I did not. I made it on a Big Joe 2
@chrisstamm7586
2 жыл бұрын
I have the classic joe and the slow roller doesn't seem to fit, even though it says it fits on the box...
@BigNast
3 ай бұрын
Anyone know if the SloRoller is compatible with the Grilla Kong? Kong is 24" and SloRoller says for most 24", but wanted to verify. Thanks ahead of time for the help/response.
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 ай бұрын
i don't have one near by to test fit... FYI they lowered the max temp to 300f so i might be more inclined to do my double indirect with a pizza stone instead
@outdoorlivingsupply
3 жыл бұрын
Just picked up a big joe 3 last Friday! Cooked on it twice already. Absolutely love this grill! Thanks for all the information and help! Will be trying the slo roller out this weekend. Can't wait to compare the big joe to my old electric pellet grill! Just up the road from you in flambrourough as well! Great seeing quality canadian content! Keep up the great content 👍👍
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
thanks so much neighbour
@airlar4857
3 жыл бұрын
Smoke rings have nothing to do with smoke, and more to do with the gasses emitted during combustion (mainly NO & CO) and their interaction with the myoglobin in the meat. Meat temp is involved as well as once the meat passes a certain (around 170° for beef) the reaction between the gasses and is no longer possible. Bottom line: spoke ring is purely visual and is not a reliable indicator of quality BBQ, it's just something people are accustomed to. If you just have to have it, the smoke ring can be faked with Prague powder (curing salt).
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
scientifically i agree with everything you said, however I disagree slightly on the notion that you can't taste the smoke ring (you can't, agree).... while you can't taste the smoke ring you can taste a clean fire vs. a dirty fire. I have done briskets on a Weber summit, Broil King keg (insulated), and L/XL BGE which from my experience i would say are all more energy efficient than the series 3 KJ but all struggle at making a noticeable smoke ring and or clean smoke taste. I have pellet grills that draw thick red lines that don't have any smoke taste whatsoever so I agree the line isn't the measure to strive for, but good clean combustion with the occasional bonus ring for instagram photos lol
@mrnomad33
4 жыл бұрын
My question may seem simple to many and you. I just got my Big Joe III and I’m questioning the set up for smoking. I’ve done two cook’s so far, but not sure my setup was correct. Do you have a step by step from placing the charcoal and placing the grills etc. video on this for us new to the Joe family? Thank you
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
I should do that... this is the closest I have so far to what you're looking for - kzitem.info/news/bejne/rWenu2xvhHOdYGU
@lihasade
3 жыл бұрын
Why do you want to have huge smokering? That´s not affecting anything, not taste or texture of the meat. Or is just the look? Good job, loving your channel!
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
you’re right you can’t taste the ring itself, but it’s the signature of clean smoke
@davidbuurma9309
4 жыл бұрын
Harry soo always said to bury the wood under the charcoal... but now I understand why... thanks for tips... slow roller for my Classic 2 on order.
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Good stuff! Let me know what you think of the SloRoller... its my go too for brisket, ribs etc. where you want more even heat over a longer period of time
@drjdchan
4 жыл бұрын
Finally a head to head! Thanks for the video. Although the smoke ring is less at 225/230, do you find the meat comes out more tender? I've found cooking pork ribs at 250 sometimes comes out dry even with a 1.5 hr wrap. Thoughts?
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Great question, yes the brisket at low temps was maybe one of the best flats I have ever done... I think we need to do a head to head 😊
@RumandCook
4 жыл бұрын
I don't plan on licking wood anytime soon LOL.. thanks for that visual! You made a great comment that most of us have believed to be true at one time or another, more smoke is better. A blue almost clear smoke is best. Just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it's not working. I think we all struggle with that piece. Great in depth video. Thanks as always!
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@Bearjumper55
3 жыл бұрын
The Kamado Joe Classic One is so inexpensive it's the one many of us just starting out are using. I'd love to see a few videos comparing the Classic 1 and Classic 3 for brisket and ribs.
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t have a series 1 but it’s a great grill. where the 3 has some additional benefit is on things like brisket. most other cooks would be close to impossible to taste a difference
@mrhappy9911
Жыл бұрын
Could you do one on a pellet grill like traeger??
@peterodriguez2364
Жыл бұрын
GR8 info awesome vid.. I've adapted a lot of ur techniques to my akorn auto kamado with my own mods and fabricated slow roller. I haven't tried a brisket yet but am confident it will turn out well.. thank you again for all the GR8 content.
@terry3296
3 жыл бұрын
I notice that you don’t use a lighting chimney to start your fire? Just curious as to why not?
@SmokingDadBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
its fine 90% of the year, but in the dead of winter in sub zero temps i don't like dumping raging hot coals into ice cold ceramics so i often just use a torch
@FreshfrogmarketingUk
4 жыл бұрын
Would love a video about clean smoke. That's something I struggle with for some reason. I often get that bitter creosote taste for no apparent reason.
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Sure happy to help make this video happen.... in short so you don't need to wait try (1) 1-2 chunks of wood on the bottom (2) charcoal on top (3) less charcoal so there is a smaller fire burning hotter (4) vent settings to encourage air draw (less on the bottom, more on the top)
@FreshfrogmarketingUk
4 жыл бұрын
@@SmokingDadBBQ Thanks, I've tried all ways, except wood under the coals. That's my next test. Thank you.
@johngordon8113
3 жыл бұрын
I've been watching your videos for the last month+ and finally got our Classic 3 last weekend. I also got the DoJoe, Joetisserie & Napolean basket thanks to you (not the Ikamand yet)! lol What I've noticed while learning how to burn and control temperature this week is that my 1st bag of Big Block is all small to really small pieces and not 1 large or "big" piece. The pieces do not look like yours. While picking up the Joe the sales person commented on how they've sold 2x the volume this year; COVID driven it would seem. Perhaps the spike in demand has resulted in the size reduction. We'll see what the 2nd bag brings. Thanks for your videos, they've been very helpful!!
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard this happens from Costco but not a dealer before. I opened a bag yesterday and they were glorious and large
@johngordon8113
3 жыл бұрын
@@SmokingDadBBQ just opened my 2nd bag (bought at Lowes), slow roller rib night, and the chunks are worthy of their name! Impressed!
@davidn.3369
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, James. I really appreciate this video and tips! I will try my next slow cook at slightly higher temperatures (>225) and adjust the vents as you suggested to encourage more air flow.
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@matthewrs7
4 жыл бұрын
I'm going to try setting my wood chunks below charcoal. I had the issue with it burning up quickly after throwing it in top of my lit coals.
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Let me know what you think, works great for me
@ManCaveMeals
4 жыл бұрын
I think 'binders' also can inhibit smoke ring formation.
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
great point John. never thought about that. this was just salt, pepper and garlic
@psdleach
4 жыл бұрын
KJ joe jr vs small BGE, I can’t decide. I already have a large BGE but I want something smaller for reasons you already understand. I know you’re partial to KJ but what’s your opinion? I’d buy the small BGE used where as I’d buy the KJ new. Idt portability is really a factor because I probably wouldn’t take a joe jr with me anywhere. I’m pretty sure I know your answer but if you have time let’s hear it
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
I don't know why BGE doesn't sell the small with the minimax nest... I saw someone modify the nest on the egghead site and it looked perfect. Depends on what you are going to do with it... if you are going to move it around, go with the Joe Jr as it has a nest that works in remote locations. If its going to be built into the table at home, the small and jr are the closest two grills in the lineup so it literally comes down to cost and colour preference if you're not going to need the travel cart
@ThePeps1776
3 жыл бұрын
Smoking Dad BBQ can I use the SloRoller with the grill expander on the KJ Classic3? I just smoked my first wings and they were prefect I just want to smoke more! I can't get a second grill at the moment.
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
yes it works great. done this many times
@CrashTestingAudio
3 жыл бұрын
Looks like the first cut was badly over-cooked. Grey beyond the smoke ring. I’m a little dismayed to see the slow roller also generated an overcooked piece of meat, but I’m guessing you can handicap it all by the fact that the meat was cooked at 350.but I did learn a lot from this, especially the practice of putting your smoking wood under the coals. Nice!
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
the meat wasn’t cooked yet. I pulled these at 165 which is far from tender. they then went into the stew recipe I was doing to finish cooking to tender
@herbertspaten8836
4 жыл бұрын
Hi, nice interessting Video. I have a question about my big Joe 3 and the slo Roller. Wen i install the slo Roller, the divide&conquer grate holder is too high and i cant close the kamado Joe because the Cover is Pressing on the grate holder. Do you have any Tips how i can fix that? I already have builded All parts of the Firebox New but IT is the same Problem. Thanks a lot.
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Are you installing the cone / base of the sloroller directly on the metal ring that holds the firebox together? Then the rack goes on top of the black cone / base and sits in the 4 post spots.... is this exactly what you see?
@Itsmichaelvo
8 ай бұрын
Hi James, just wanted to say your videos have been informative and insightful. In other words they are fantastic! I've watched many videos to educate myself - noting I only did my first cook yesterday, and the fire was very average yet the rotisserie chicken was delicious. I did my second cook today, a steak on soap stone and another on the grill/fire and it was one of the best tasting steaks I've made. Keep up the videos! Have been watching the sloroller videos and as much as I would love one, I am still learning to enjoy what it can do before I take it up to the next level with all the extra bells and whistles. Keep up the good work 👍🏾 Michael from Sydney
@SmokingDadBBQ
8 ай бұрын
Cheers
@koenschutte9707
2 жыл бұрын
Hey smoking dad, when would you recommend using the sloroller, and when would you prefer using the deflector plates?
@SmokingDadBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
deflectors for 500f+ and or half and half setups... SloRoller for brisket, ribs, pork butt and or spatchcock chicken / wings
@fortuneworks
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome tips! The wood on bottom makes so much sense! Gonna try today.
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching
@praetorxyn
4 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I can't pay attention to the rest of the video for looking at that shiny top vent on the Jr. Maybe a stupid question, but I thought a large part of the difference in how the Joe 3 series behaves compared to the 2 series is because the 3 series is quite a bit taller? It's been a while since I looked at the specs, but I figured KJ made them taller for a good reason. I'm just curious how much of that "extra airflow" / better smoke is height. Makes sense to me that if your meat is farther away from the fire, you can burn the fire a bit hotter for better smoke. I also got my SnS Kamado assembled today, but I it was after dark so I haven't fired it up yet. Honestly not sure what I'm going to do for the first few cooks (which are recommended to be under 300 degrees after a burn-in between 300-350), as my usual go to for slow cooking (without having a crap ton left over like I would with a Boston Butt) is ribs, and due to the pandemic, in my local grocery store apparently ribs are $30+ right now, which I'm not paying if I don't have to.
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
hehehe haven't shown the joe jr vent in detail yet... its coming. Gotta give it a proper review before making any verdicts (spoiler... me likey)
@chuckkennedy6553
4 жыл бұрын
@Smoking Dad BBQ Great tip on burying the wood chunks. now I'm hungry for the rest of the meal and wishing it was also a complete how-to to the plate! Thanks for video series, new Kamado user .... very helpful! chuckkennedydc on IG/Twitter/Web.
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Chuck
@kylegordon9499
3 жыл бұрын
Would you say the classic 3 is better than the classic 2? I’m trying to decide between the two? Any taste difffences between the 2 classics? Love the videos! Been watching everyday all your content.
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
thanks. the 3 is 4” taller so it has a three level grid rack vs a two level. this allows the SloRoller to fit and not reduce the grid size. also has the charcoal basket and metal side shelves
@ScottHepler-kg3zz
2 ай бұрын
Will the slow roller fit in a big Joe version one?
Question - can you use the SLO Roller with the Big Green Egg? And is it worth it? I love your videos and value your opinion.
@SmokingDadBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
i saw chef tom from All things BBQ do a test and it works great on the egg. i dont have one anymore to test
@michaeln5640
3 жыл бұрын
Just my opinion but I think the slo roller is a total waste of money. If you cook anything that drips juices which is pretty much everything it hits the hot metal plate and creates a dark gray burnt smelling smoke. Also it is suppose to eliminate hot spots , but cooking wings at 400 degree I burnt the wings directly over the plate and they cooked in 30 minutes when they normally took 45 mins. I just feel the ceramic discs are much better and there is no benefit to the slo roller. The only good thing it does is make it easier to add wood or more charcoal
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
like you said it does cook faster, just like your oven does on convection vs bake. I think it shows off it’s difference on things like a brisket better than it does on normal cooks where I agree it needs to be protected from drips that will taste bad
@emmgeevideo
2 жыл бұрын
I wish you had included a taste test. I think that better flavor was the third bullet on one of your lists. The two smoke rings were indistinguishable. The bark differed - was it just looks or did it produce better taste? Cook times were identical. If I had an older KJ I don't think I'd spring for it. I've watched other videos - the headroom gets cut back quite a bit on the older models.
@SmokingDadBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
i should redo this with a taste test as these were only partially cooked going into a pulled beef sandwich when i sliced them open (around 160f)
@larrylyon6695
2 жыл бұрын
Greetings and regards from Los Angeles. I’m a new viewer/subscriber who thoroughly appreciated this video. I’ve BBQ’d for years including a stint on the KBBQ competitive circuit and you taught me plenty which I never knew. I appreciate the professionalism of your presentation. Thanks!
@SmokingDadBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you! Much appreciated Larry and welcome aboard
@andrewquan5117
2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t notice anything about the taste difference. Especially if you did a blinded taste test comparing slow roller vs no slow roller if it imparts a better smoke flavour with the show roller. Great info as always.
@SmokingDadBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Andrew
@trippwestbrook9827
3 жыл бұрын
Related question: Will the sloroller fit in an original Big Joe? That's what I have and I've heard conflicting information regarding the fit and space left in the cook chamber. Appreciate any insights!
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
they sell a stand alone model which comes with a raised grid and smaller diameter cooking grid. this one fits, i don't think the series 3 rack with the sloroller will fit as there is a 4" height difference. the site says it fits series 1 - www.kamadojoe.com/collections/accessories/products/kamado-joe®-sloroller-w-stainless-steel-cooking-rack
@shawn7913
2 жыл бұрын
One of my very first smokes was a ham for Thanksgiving about 12 years ago when I had no resources like YT to learn. I thought the smoker needed to billow white smoke the whole time lol. That ham was horrible, everyone ate it and no one complained to me, but no one went back for seconds. I felt so bad, but my family was awesome. No one complained.
@SmokingDadBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
they must like you more than mine likes me lol
@gordonho3968
2 жыл бұрын
Great videos; how do you clean your slo roller?
@paulgruar9923
4 жыл бұрын
Hi James, Great video, love you work. On another note, I’m about to get the Doughjoe accessory for my Big Joe 3. Can I use Pizza Wood logs ( that a wood fired Pizza Oven would use) to get the heat up. Or am I best to use just lump charcoal? Any tips would be great. Thanks Paul Sydney Australia.
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Paul, I have seen a few people do it with wood but I think its easier to get the stable temps and no creosote inside your Joe by sticking with the charcoal
@huizdeeze1075
2 жыл бұрын
you have heat plates Above slow roller in big G 3
@SmokingDadBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
not in this video but more recently i have done that double indirect setup
@huizdeeze1075
2 жыл бұрын
@@SmokingDadBBQ thanks
@beers-jackofbbq
4 жыл бұрын
That was very interesting to see James! Thanks for the info!
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! thanks
@mra95662
3 жыл бұрын
I can't find the link
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
for the SloRoller? here it is - amzn.to/3tdOuE1
@MrMarnold6
3 жыл бұрын
Why does the 3-series breath better? Is it just because they are bigger? Does that mean the Big Joe also breathes better than the Classic Joe? Just due to size and the amount of fire needed to keep them at temp?
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
the 4” taller I assume is the difference where you need a cleaner burning fire which somehow is much easier to keep stable
@jeroenderksen5016
2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Learnd lot!! Is the smoke flavour more intense withe the slow roller ore is it the same? Greetings from Netherlands
@SmokingDadBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
I am not sure about intensity as this can be impacted by the charcoal, the amount of smoking wood, type of wood, the size of the fire etc but for a moment if we assume there are no differences in those variables and just focus on the sloroller vs. non sloroller it does a much better job as the temps ramp up. At 200f I can't tell a difference. at 250-270f+ it makes a massive difference in the quality of clean smoke on things like a brisket, pulled pork, ribs etc..... and at 400f for chicken wings or regular chicken it crisps up the skin much better as the air circulates apparently 20x more over the food than without it and i believe based on the results.
@benzellfloyd9471
3 жыл бұрын
Please talk less. You're over talking it.
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
ok
@tpcdelisle
Жыл бұрын
@@SmokingDadBBQ I appreciate all of the talking and explanation. Keep up the great work. 😇👍
@dbkakaroto
4 жыл бұрын
10x for the info Love the chanel♥️
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much David
@DrTasteGoodBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome explanation of the process and how you got there. I guess I must have missed the video on whats on the top of the Joe on the far left? Sweet celery seed tip. Oh I fully understand neighbor issues. LOL
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
heheh i haven't officially talked to whats going on the Jr just yet 😂
@chrisgroe
3 жыл бұрын
would lowering the heat deflectors on the Big Joe solve the problem of the slightly more cooked bottom?
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
i think in this particular case it would have helped even them out even more
@goofsaddggkle7351
3 жыл бұрын
I am wondering if that slo roller can be adapted to the Costco Louisiana Komodo because it sounds like a game changer
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
if its 18 or 24" it might just fit
@timothyirlee
4 жыл бұрын
Hi James, you mentioned improved airflow with a single finger width on the bottom vent and a little wider up on top - have you noticed any difference in flavour and smoke ring when using an iKamad or Flame Boss etc.? Thanks and great channel! :-)
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
I will have to try a side by side to see if we can taste the difference
@josephmoreno9590
2 жыл бұрын
Do you know if the expander rack with fit on it too?
@SmokingDadBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
on the series 3 yes, not the 2 with the sloroller
@josephmoreno9590
2 жыл бұрын
@@SmokingDadBBQ can you also fit a drip pan under grate? Classic 1 is what I have
@nephipower
4 жыл бұрын
I noticed that you started your coal in the center of the whole pile of charcoal instead of at the front middle area that you have shown in your previous tips video. Have you find a new best practice to actually start your fire in the center of the charcoal pile?
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris... as this was only 3 hrs we wouldn't get a significant shift in the charcoal direction like we might on a 14-18hr cook... when i was finished recording i put a lodge cast iron dutch oven in the classic on the x accessory ring and wanted the heat under the centre
@richardwall8772
4 жыл бұрын
I know you cook without the "winged" part of the ash catcher. have you ever tried not cooking with the ash catcher pan with the handle? It seems that it would increase air flow without the pan blocking the incoming air flow.
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
no I haven’t. it has holes in it to allow the air to pass so it’s never caused me any trouble. it prevents the chance for a hot coal to fall out of the grill
@TheSillyKitchenwithSylvia
4 жыл бұрын
Really cool video! That roast looks awesome!
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
It was! Made some delicious pulled beef with it... thanks for watching
@MrPanthers23
4 жыл бұрын
So when are you gonna buy a stick burner? Then you could compare it to KJ. I'm sure your wife won't mind.
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
I do want that new Franklin offset in gun metal lol ..... so far its just me in the house voting that way lol
@MrPanthers23
4 жыл бұрын
@@SmokingDadBBQ check out workhorse pits. If I can ever get wife approval, thats prob the smoker ill get. 1/2 the price of a Franklin, and looks just as nice if not better to me.
@1970351C2V
4 жыл бұрын
Good video. I was wondering myself about the upper/lower vent settings. This makes me curious though - I've read (somewhere, don't remember where) that you need to have a more restricted upper vent setting with a temperature controller in order to have stable temperatures. This begs the question - will a temperature controller then result in a more acrid smoke?
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Good question! This isn't true, you can remove the top vent completely and control with the bottom vent... but in partnership they work better together especially for lower temps. You want the fire to draw the air in so you don't get reverse airflow (with smoke coming out the bottom)... also a fire drawing its own air is more stable than one being stoked by the wind ... should the breeze change directions your temps will fluctuate
@dr.brucepierce
4 жыл бұрын
Great Video as usual. The link to the SloRoller was for the classic Joe, do you have a link for the Big Joe 2?
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, it looks like even the classic has gone missing. If it comes back I will update
@mlouie
3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to read the article you mention about the science behind putting wood under the charcoal but am unable to find it. Can you please provide a link? I have a membership to amazingribs.com and also looked in the paid area. Thank you!
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
I think this is the right one - amazingribs.com/more-technique-and-science/grill-and-smoker-setup-and-firing/what-you-need-know-about-wood-smoke-and
@mlouie
3 жыл бұрын
@@SmokingDadBBQ Thank you, James. I read that article, and it doesn't seem to talk about putting the wood under the charcoal on a barbecue. Meathead seems to be pretty down on kamados in his articles and his book.
@ozarkpipertony8396
3 жыл бұрын
Will the
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
lost the rest of the question?
@kylehoward2900
3 жыл бұрын
If you had to choose one grill between the Kettle Joe (w/ its version of the SloRoller) and the Classic II WITHOUT a SloRoller, which would you go with?
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
I would do the classic 2. the build quality is not the same on the kettle and the usability of the SloRoller is not good for switching mid cook I show some of this on the kettle in the first section here kzitem.info/news/bejne/0n5m3ayQpaKghG0
@davidrussell631
2 жыл бұрын
The Kettle Joe, for sure, because the technology behind the SloRoller was developed at Harvard and ceramic kamados have never been known to be very good cookers until the SlowRoller came along.
@chaddoyle6911
2 жыл бұрын
I agree on your temp recommendations of 250-275. Even though I have to wait a while to try my next brisket, these temps hold true on my masterbuilt smoker. I’m am so curious and excited to try the SloRoller for the first time.
@SmokingDadBBQ
2 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy
@ocrun6765
3 жыл бұрын
Why would you want a convection to cook your meat faster when you're trying to go slow and low?
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
it’s still low and slow in terms of the temp snd how far renders ... just a little less time to get the same result
@edteets2554
4 жыл бұрын
What specifically is a “sloroller” ?
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
its the marketing name for the Hyperbolic smoke chamber insert accessory designed by Harvard. Check out this article for more info - www.engadget.com/2019-10-25-harvard-barbecue-desora-kamado-joe-cinder-grills.html
@tomcooke6670
3 жыл бұрын
Where did you get and what is it called the quick fire starter
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
I am using the ones sold kJ
@jjchu47
4 жыл бұрын
Who would have thought at 225 it would be less of a smoke ring... good stuff
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
ya it’s because the Kamado is too efficient and there isn’t enough of a clean burning fire
@ryanbramich6951
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome insights James! So, in short, does the charcoal on top of the wood help purify some of the smoke in your view whereas it would be too strong sitting on top of the fire? Also if u had smaller chunks would u use the same method?
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ryan, yes exactly. Found the article that helped explain this - amazingribs.com/more-technique-and-science/grill-and-smoker-setup-and-firing/what-you-need-know-about-wood-smoke-and
@BiggiJ
3 жыл бұрын
Would you be able to share some tips about how to get an accurate temp with the SloRoller? I liked your previous method of separating the ceramic plates but that's not really an option here. Great content as always!
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
Yes I can, its not a dedicated video but on Dec 10 I am doing Montreal smoked meat overnight with the SloRoller and spend some time walking through the setup and stabilizing the fire
@MrCallenl
4 жыл бұрын
Tanken you for your videos, will you make an in depth of the size comparison on the classic vs big vs jr? Currently smoking ribs on a weber 57cm and think we "need" the big to fit more ribs etc... but it is soo much more money and weight. Would be an awesome video! Thank you, will continue watching each video and hit the like button! Cheers from Sweden! Also looking forward to see your new table if you build one!
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Calle... thanks. happy to do a side by side of each of the three sizes ... yes just thinking about the table design
@MrCallenl
4 жыл бұрын
@@SmokingDadBBQ Sorry for Swedish Autocorrect! Tanken should have been "Thank you!" We need to convince us that we can handle 2-4 rib racks on the Classic 3 and therefore not need the big... But still, when money goes out in this amount, we need the best! Will wait with popcorn and burnt ends for the video to understand at what time we need the Big over the Classic! Sorry to bother you, but you have one of each! Who else to ask? ;)
@meatthecookk.2227
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video James as always! Definitely need one of those flame guns 🔥 and seriously nice smoke ring in such short order certainly agree on the smoke ring tips.
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Matt
@nathanlewis5131
4 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing. Just got my KJ Classic II and was trying to decide if the SloRoller would be worth it. Great details to help make that decision.
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Congrats on your KJ Classic Nathan
@ConalMaguire
4 жыл бұрын
Hey James, I find all your videos very useful, such a great resource! I have a question, if you don’t mind? I’m looking to get a Joe but can’t decide between the Big Joe or getting both the Jnr and Classic. What would your recommendation be?
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Great question... i have completely changed my mind now that I have the big joe. A year ago I would have said the classic and the jr.... but the big joe has stole my heart lol. Its not as inefficient as I thought it would be, and you can cook your entire meal on one grill with true multi zone temp differences .... if started from scratch it would be my first choice
@ConalMaguire
4 жыл бұрын
Smoking Dad BBQ I’m sold! Thanks for the reply, it’s much appreciated. I was leaning towards the Big Joe but was kept second guessing myself.
@snnave1
3 жыл бұрын
You’re making me want to buy one of these. Do you have a coupon code lol
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
sadly no coupons
@zaratron
4 жыл бұрын
Were you looking for a specific internal temp? If so what? I must have missed it if it was in the video. The results look great, wish I could sample it.
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
No I wasn't as after slicing these I threw them in a dutch oven on the classic on the x accessory ring with beef broth and Guinness beer to braise until fall apart tender for the tacos. After three hours these would have been in the 150f-160f range and not very tender
@DanDaciuk
4 жыл бұрын
Interesting comparison. One thing about my classic 2 is that while it just fits racks of ribs or a packer brisket, the edges sometimes get a bit more well done. Does the slo roller prevent this? If so I'm sold.
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
It makes the classic feel like a bigger grill as you now have the entire 18" surface to work with. I am sure with an infrared gun its not perfect 100% even everywhere but when i concentrate the fire in the centre the metal heats up and radiates the heat in what seems very very even distribution
@jboody79
3 жыл бұрын
I have a Classic 1 and I'm torn between getting a SloRoller for my 1 or just buying the III. Does anyone know how well the SloRoller is with the classic 1?
@jboody79
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome vidoe by the way! i love all the links, ideas, and how well you lay it all out too!
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
thanks so much. the issue with adding to series 1 and 2 is the grid space you lose. While its a great accessory I likely would sell my older one and upgrade as you get the basket, gasket, hinge, metal side shelves, and the new top vent for the difference for likely less than the stand alone cost of adding these
@jboody79
3 жыл бұрын
@@SmokingDadBBQ Thanks for the response! That is what I was kind of thinking while starting to price it all out. I actually "stole" my original KJ 1 off of Craigslist for $500 new when they were $1000+ due to an unclaimed freight issue. If I could get $300 for my used one I will have paid $200 for the last 5 years! Winning!!!! But now I'd have to fork out a lot of $ for the KJ III but that's life. Happy Holidays, stay safe in this Covid world, and thanks again.
@ComparisonCooking
4 жыл бұрын
Great experiment, very informative!
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@chrisgroe
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent information. Love the tip about placing wood at bottom.
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Cheers
@TomBlommaart
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid. Again! Always highly educational thanks a lot
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching Tom
@jeffandmarylutz8761
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video James! Love the Pro Tip! Your videos help explain a lot for me as a new KJ owner.
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@kamadojoe5667
4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Who makes the top vent on your Joe Junior and is it any good?
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
I love it as it adds rain protection, no movement when opening just like what the new control tower top does.... its made by smokeware, you need the gasket in the combo - smokeware.com/collections/chimney-caps/products/sale-chimney-cap-adapter
@stkhoops
3 жыл бұрын
Wait. Is there a taste difference between the two? I like smoke ring and all, but taste and texture are king imo. Same question for the brisket you mentioned you tested at the lower temp, was it more moist and/or more or less tasty than the one cooked at your higher temp “sweet spot”?
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
I three these into a stew as they weren't fully cooked chuck roasts yet (this was around 160f) so I didn't taste these in the picture. So the point of the SloRoller isn't just for smoke rings, you can get that without it. Where the sloroller shows up with an advantage is brisket cooks around 270f where i've noticed it moves air so much better i can now go fat cap up and render it properly and get that signature sticky, caramelized fat cap.
@stkhoops
3 жыл бұрын
@@SmokingDadBBQ Wow! You replied! Thank you, that helps. Ever since I’ve found your channel I’ve been really impressed. Great work!
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
@@stkhoops thanks 🙏
@LeavingLasVegas0
4 жыл бұрын
Ever tried to use a cast iron smoke pot on top of the fire with holes at the bottom to get constant thin blue smoke? There are some interesting threads on this topic...
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
no i haven't, will go look for those to see what the idea here is
@quincycuthbert5408
4 жыл бұрын
The meat seems a bit dryer. Does it stay moist with the SloRoller
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Good question... this was not fully cooked (150f) as it was going into a dutch oven right after this video with beef broth, Guinness and another 3-4hrs of braising until it was fall apart tender. I wouldn't eat it as shown in the video, this was just to see the smoke ring development in 3hrs
@JamesWPeetll
3 жыл бұрын
I am new to kamado cooking and was wondering what a "smoke ring" is.
@SmokingDadBBQ
3 жыл бұрын
welcome to the addiction ... this refers to the red band you see in the meat that is the tell tale sign of "smoked" meat
@richnmib1939
4 жыл бұрын
I am on the fence with the SloRoller. Is it worth it?
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
if you cook a brisket / ribs every few weeks = yes. If you do a brisket or two a year, there are other accessories you might get a more noticeable difference / every day enjoyment from
@davidwhite8826
4 жыл бұрын
I’ve had great smoke rings on everything I’ve cooked with the slow roller. What I seem to keep struggling with (and am admittedly new to the smoking/Kamado game) is getting a good bark. Made a packer brisket and it had a perfect smoke ring but couldn’t get much of a bark. Same for ribs. On my second go I did get a great bark on a Boston butt but so far that’s it. I know you’ve mentioned it but it does seem like the slow roller cooks faster at lower temps than expected. Great video though. I would’ve loved to see the final results of the pulled beef after braising.
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Are you wrapping? if so, wait until 185 vs. 165 before wrapping. Also binders can hurt bark if its too wet. Spraying with water lightly helps built a bark as well about every hour and a half
@davidwhite8826
4 жыл бұрын
Smoking Dad BBQ I did wrap with butcher paper. I think around 165. I’ll try wrapping it later. I did find a few people who suggested doing what you did in this video in that the close the bottom vent way down and open the top vent almost full blast and have had better results. I’ll also try no binders next time too.
@kappatvating
4 жыл бұрын
You absolutely help subside fears of cooking over fire
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
thanks so much Steven. hope your keeping well
@bjorne46
4 жыл бұрын
So now I’m going to have to tell my wife that along the just ordered classic ii, I need a sloroller 🤡. But seriously; very comprehensive videos on your part! Subscribed and turned on notifications. My takeaway from this video though, is that I don’t really need a sloroller.
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. Not for a smoke ring... it does help with even bark and shorter cook times
@bjorne46
4 жыл бұрын
Smoking Dad BBQ The classic 2 will be my first Kamado, and I’ve only just started slow cooking. But good to know it works. Question also is; is it $200 worth? Judging solely from this video I’d say no.
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
bjornE46 if you’re just get started I think it’s best to start learning the smoker as it is before diving into additional tools that change the performance. Down the road if you decide you’d like it then you can always add it
@WhereisWalashek
4 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on a 300 degree first couple hours to set the ring and bark (burn up smoking wood) then dropping to 225 for the remainder on a slow and low brisket?
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
If i was to do a brisket tomorrow, I would do 270 unwrapped with the SloRoller until around 185f then wrap it with no added liquid ... the brisket can take this temp without burning, without drying out, forms an awesome bark and has perfect smoke flavour
@WhereisWalashek
4 жыл бұрын
@@SmokingDadBBQ @Smoking Dad BBQ thank you, following your lead with my own Sunday bbqs. If you care to respond (not expected) when I think of 270 throughout the whole cook without adding any liquid I get a feeling like brisket will lose some juiciness. Are you still misting those first hours as bark builds? Are you only wrapping it for an hour-2? pulling it at 210 to ftc?
@nephipower
4 жыл бұрын
@@SmokingDadBBQ after you wrap it would you drop the temp down to 225?
@TomHorsmanAmateurBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Nicely done!
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tom! Cheers!
@Grover124
4 жыл бұрын
Hi James! Question about the Meater+... can you leave it in the brisket during the rest and monitor the temp as it falls and/or get an alert when it hits a pre-determined serving temp? Thanks!
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
you can so long as it’s not wrapped in foil as that blocks the signal
@Grover124
4 жыл бұрын
Ok, thx! It’s 4:50am in California and I’m 20 minutes into my first brisket on the KJ 3 🤞🏼
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
@@Grover124 fantastic... enjoy the cook today
@MrPanthers23
4 жыл бұрын
What a great video. Have been wondering of the slo roller was worth it.
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks so much
@jeffrey8859
4 жыл бұрын
Yet again great video, will try the smoke wood placement underneath the charcoal next time I do an smkoking session. Keep up the good work 🔥👍🔥
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
Rock on! Let me know what you think
@jeffrey8859
4 жыл бұрын
@@SmokingDadBBQ one more question, could you let me know how long it takes before the white smoke becomes translucent?
@jameswellington1335
4 жыл бұрын
What's your hair jel?? I need one badly
@SmokingDadBBQ
4 жыл бұрын
hahaha. here it is - www.reuzel.com/products/clay-matte-pomade-strong-hold-matte-finish?variant=27861335310416
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