I love how Ethan was such a good guy that Kat had to act delusional calling him an incel just so she wouldn't feel like shit for dumping him.
@kittykatspooks3002
2 жыл бұрын
Fr!! Just be honest
@filipgasic2642
2 жыл бұрын
She didn't act. She's a bad person
@aisyahomar2516
Жыл бұрын
What is incel
@Pedro-xe7lk
Жыл бұрын
@@aisyahomar2516 men that hate woman
@mrtyrant1680
Жыл бұрын
@@aisyahomar2516 It means Involuntary Celibate. It used to be a term that basically described people (Male, Female, Trans, Homosexual, Etc) that want to have romantic or sexual relationships but can't due to factors like unattractiveness, mental or physical disabilities, social awkwardness, etc. Nowadays, it basically describes internet trolls or sick in the head guys that hate woman for not being attracted to them for obvious reasons. (It's annoying because it gives actual Incels a bad image as a result.)
@aaronhiggins986
2 жыл бұрын
“Lying about a terminal brain disorder? That’s sick” it really is
@aronbrown7286
2 жыл бұрын
I love that Ethan just doesn’t play the game.
@thaistomp
2 жыл бұрын
That’s how a real man does it 😎
@prettiestgirlmusa
2 жыл бұрын
exactly u play stupid games u win stupid prizes
@zet7670
2 жыл бұрын
why he doesn't need all the coddling in the comments
@darthslayder6904
2 жыл бұрын
@@prettiestgirlmusa it’s u n me that’s my whole world!!!!
@Just_no_
2 жыл бұрын
Ethan the only non toxic one here. I’m glad he and Kat broke up. Also insulting him by calling him an incel? That’s hurtful. Kat is legit one of those people who quit a relationship because it’s actually non toxic and could be great but to her that equals boring. Mega yikes.
@Okkotsu86275
2 жыл бұрын
Kat needs a big slice of humble 🥧. With the mentality she has, she's in for a world of hurt. But she gets a pass because she a "teenager"
@infinitymixtapes9562
2 жыл бұрын
I could see Kat ending up with a guy just like Nate cuz she’d rather be in an abusive relationship than one that’s “boring”
@thaistomp
2 жыл бұрын
@@Okkotsu86275 No passes.
@JR-nu1bw
2 жыл бұрын
Can someone simply explain to me what's incel? Cause I'm not very clear with that term.
@infinitymixtapes9562
2 жыл бұрын
@@JR-nu1bw involuntary celibate. Basically a guy that can’t get laid so he hates women
@tjtoonz
2 жыл бұрын
Proud of Ethan for not being played for a fool
@kristate2180
2 жыл бұрын
Ethan is the ideal husband material
@Okkotsu86275
2 жыл бұрын
Try tell that to Kat supports
@thaistomp
2 жыл бұрын
Yup, and he dodged a bullet by her breaking up with him. Guys like him need to be with a nice, sweet girl. Not someone like Kat.
@alyssapinon9670
2 жыл бұрын
Ethan is exactly my type, personality and look wise. I had a crush on him in Dash and Lily and was excited to see him playing another sweetheart in euphoria.
@alreadywalkingdead
2 жыл бұрын
@@Okkotsu86275 who the fuck supports Kat anyway?
@jackhawk8997
2 жыл бұрын
@@alreadywalkingdead A loony who ate too many coco pops. All that sugar made them have a brain disorder
@TheGamingManiac
2 жыл бұрын
Man Kat's character really always finds a way for me dislike her. Season 1 she was finding herself and exploring sexuality which was fine but the emotional manipulation and gaslighting towards Ethan was cruel. The ending to that first season arc wrapped it perfectly tho and Kat was growing on me as a person. THIS SEASON HOWEVER, where I thought she was going to continue on her path of becoming a better person, the gaslighting and manipulation gets WORSE and taboot she calls Ethan an incel AND lies about fucking DYING? lmao i don't know if either the writing sucks or the behind the scenes drama between Barbie and Sam were true but either way oof, kinda over Kat's shit fr
@Okkotsu86275
2 жыл бұрын
She's very difficult to root for.
@iDewThis4Yu
2 жыл бұрын
I swear the point of this show just goes over you people’s head
@alexSoto11117
2 жыл бұрын
@@iDewThis4Yu could you elaborate on that
@joshuajohn8870
2 жыл бұрын
the writing sucks. The show is at its best when its dealing with Rue struggling with addiction. Everything else, especially the relationship drama, is super cliche.
@joshuajohn8870
2 жыл бұрын
@Mr Ramiro honestly the show kind of reminds me how a lot of people thought 13 reasons why was "deep" or whatever when in reality the show is pretty shallow and a lot of it's success simply comes from shock value
@rockangelstt
2 жыл бұрын
Talk about gaslighting. She was horrible. I guess she felt bad to break up with him
@flataffect
2 жыл бұрын
Most people feel bad when they break up with people. They don’t do that.
@rockangelstt
2 жыл бұрын
@@flataffect ikr . She took it overboard.
@Plutomaniaa
Жыл бұрын
@@rockangelstt she was plain loathesome
@squidbate3404
2 жыл бұрын
i can’t even imagine how angry i would be if ethan hadn’t stood up for himself and let kat gaslight him. good for him
@trayweathersby7490
2 жыл бұрын
Cat is toxic. Her actions like this prove it. She really tried to make it like Ethan was a issue cus she didn't wanna be REAL about and legit tell him she wasn't feeling the relationship. Props to Ethan 💯
@sallysmith8408
2 жыл бұрын
Aw that sucks I really liked Ethan he was a great guy. I don’t like the way Kat treated him here tbh. I agree with the reason for the breakup but she could’ve been honest
@caglacoskun777
2 жыл бұрын
I was kind of mad with this scene. I don't think this is something Kat would've done, this was just out of nowhere and stupid.
@asherscoochiestinksasher7542
2 жыл бұрын
@@caglacoskun777 fr and she lied to have a reason to break up
@RealNickyBoy15
2 жыл бұрын
Bet she regrets treating him like trash after see how he bodied Lexi’s play huh?
@joshuasatterwhite9520
2 жыл бұрын
Why’d she break up with him again ?💀
@sallysmith8408
2 жыл бұрын
@@RealNickyBoy15 I bet
@Eric__-ew3zv
2 жыл бұрын
No wonder the actress who plays Kat clashed with the director so much
@gee2541
2 жыл бұрын
Nah she allegedly clashed with him about another storyline and then he changed it into this
@iDewThis4Yu
2 жыл бұрын
@@adeaxel3125 we watching the same show?
@Eric__-ew3zv
2 жыл бұрын
@@gee2541 damn I wonder what it was
@shoucrank3542
2 жыл бұрын
@@Eric__-ew3zv her character was supposed to have an ED I think
@jayyy2561
2 жыл бұрын
@@adeaxel3125 yeh shou crank is right the other storyline she was supposed to have was apparently an eating disorder but when she expressed her dislike for it Sam switched it to this maybe out of spite I really don't know lol
@Indomitable_Alykat
2 жыл бұрын
Some people have to act like you're a bad person to justify the horrible way they treated you. Kat is one of those people. Ethan did nothing to deserve this kind of abuse. I really hope he gets a girlfriend who can love him as wholeheartedly as he loves them. And I really hope Kat gets some fucking therapy
@MagikarpBeast
2 жыл бұрын
'Some people' You mean women?
@zoey398
Жыл бұрын
@@MagikarpBeast i don't care that you got your heart broken tbh
@ashleyramsey7844
9 ай бұрын
@@zoey398l.p
@stratusfactionlove
2 жыл бұрын
If I had a boyfriend that looked like Ethan, I would NEVER break up with him because he's FR fine af💯💯💕💕
@Okkotsu86275
2 жыл бұрын
@twice True dat
@maryelizaabeth_
2 жыл бұрын
Periodt
@despairdoll
2 жыл бұрын
yes and he's genuinely so nice too!! i hated this scene
@mastercheif804
2 жыл бұрын
@twice she was being fake and toxic
@alyssapinon9670
2 жыл бұрын
@@despairdoll right? He doesn’t give “nice guy” vibes. He just seems like a genuinely decent dude
@mollyoneill7109
2 жыл бұрын
Why is she giving me passive aggressive Trisha Paytas vibes
@kittykatspooks3002
2 жыл бұрын
So I wasn't the only one?
@Jay-dr3nc
2 жыл бұрын
i totally agree
@naenae2350
2 жыл бұрын
radical leftist trisha paytas
@kittykatspooks3002
2 жыл бұрын
@@naenae2350 atleast Kat isn't racist like trisha!
@naenae2350
2 жыл бұрын
@@kittykatspooks3002 they are racist too, some are jewish hating people.
@15iannava
Жыл бұрын
I super love this scene. He literally read her effortlessly.
@neezz
2 жыл бұрын
Travis scott apologizing for Astroworld 3:19
@easyboo8208
2 жыл бұрын
I WAS NOT READY FOR THIS😭😭😭😭😂😂
@realkingofantarctica
2 жыл бұрын
Degen was right, I understand why he hates this character.
@ultraisaiah7859
2 жыл бұрын
Yoooo fellow degen fan
@kingworldadventures
2 жыл бұрын
Fr
@asmartdumba55
2 жыл бұрын
Yessir daddy degen
@D3g3no
Жыл бұрын
Fr
@jewelxxett
Жыл бұрын
watching that video rn😭
@VN3wton
Ай бұрын
Always felt horrible for ethan. He was the nicest character. Hopefully this experience doesnt actually turn him into the incel he was accused of being
@kennedygorr
2 жыл бұрын
i’m so glad ethan saw through her bs
@mazzynluce
2 жыл бұрын
Her character has officially just been destroyed. I used to enjoy Kat :( Ethan deserves so much better, he treated her so well.
@valentinafangirling
2 жыл бұрын
Sam deserves to be punched by Kat. This was a horrible arc, Kat’s character definitely deserved better.
@Okkotsu86275
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed this is trash
@iDewThis4Yu
2 жыл бұрын
If she’s angry because he character is getting a “heel” turn that would make her unprofessional af. Some real diva ass shit
@caglacoskun777
2 жыл бұрын
she really did, especially after her character development. she never would've done this, this scene is just ridiculous.
@valentinafangirling
2 жыл бұрын
@@iDewThis4Yu with how the character is written it would just mean she cares about it. Bc this is TERRIBLE writing. And if there’s an issue with an actor you either replace them or fire them and write a proper exit fir said character. Taking “revenge” on the actor by fucking up the character purposely is far more unprofessional. It shows how little Sam cared for said character and how badly he wrote her in just for the shock value of having a minor on sex work and for “woke points”. If you are the writer and director, you have to set the example and make decisions for the story. Not to be petty.
@iDewThis4Yu
2 жыл бұрын
@@valentinafangirling okay first. Stop getting your news from Twitter. The official story is she had a problem with the storyline and THIS is what SHE wanted…probably was against going full cam girl which I understand. And knowing people like this and givin that her character is social awkward and a straight goof..nothing about this scene was “terrible writing”. And let me be clear I’m not one of these people that think this show is perfect..but I really think her character arc is going over peoples heads/ they’re just nitpicking because of the rumor that this was some “payback” for her complaining about her storyline. Second: what type of entitled shit is that? Your on the show..do what the script says..now if it was something she ddint feel comfortable with than by all means say no..but if it was some “I ddint agree with the direction” then I’m sorry but throwing a fit over that is some diva shit. Like your an actor..act..have input..but the story is for the writers to handle..not a first time actor.
@danigirii
2 жыл бұрын
her face when she says: "i think it's terminal" is so punchable u.u b great acting xD
@justinbanks2664
2 жыл бұрын
Bad writing. She had the lowest stakes and made the absolute worst decision. This was so stupid. I'm not even mad at Kat because this doesn't seem realistic enough for me to care. Like a corny Judd Apatow joke that would only work in a stoner film. They do not respect this character, which is unfortunate because I thought she had interested development the first season.
@coffee_icedtea5976
2 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t seem realistic?? It’s not all about realistic things, it’s also scenarios and views of what kind of things could happen. It’s very possible for someone to fake having something as an excuse to get out. And they haven’t even gone through all the developments yet, look at Nate. I thought he could get better cause he made more sense this season, but he’s just as crazy as before.
@jessicaribeiro8928
2 жыл бұрын
Bad writing? it's realistic
@marvingonzalez8586
2 жыл бұрын
@@jessicaribeiro8928 no it's not
@iDewThis4Yu
2 жыл бұрын
@@marvingonzalez8586 what unrealistic about it?
@marvingonzalez8586
2 жыл бұрын
@@iDewThis4Yu everything
@KaijiMane
2 жыл бұрын
this is the most hurtful example of gaslighting i have ever seen
@thaistomp
2 жыл бұрын
Kat is a classic narcissist lol. Poor Ethan.
@daenerysstormbornofhouseta9185
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think Kat is even attracted to men.
@despairdoll
2 жыл бұрын
i've always thought that too, i'm glad somebody else sees it
@MacenW
2 жыл бұрын
@@despairdoll I’m sure they’re joking
@despairdoll
2 жыл бұрын
@@MacenW maybe but i think kat could be gay or bi
@Cicada11011
2 жыл бұрын
Kat literally sucks through out the whole series. The whole “empowerment” thing wasn’t empowerment lol.
@crylittlesister6377
Жыл бұрын
This scene makes me realize how much Kat is like nearly all of my ex girlfriends in a nutshell: insecure, flaky and desperate for male validation. Makes me even happier that they're all out of my life.
@shiwoshiwofr
Жыл бұрын
Same mate
@thelostdutchess
Жыл бұрын
did you ever stop to consider that maybe YOU were the problem?
@crylittlesister6377
Жыл бұрын
@@thelostdutchess Most of my exes come crawling back after dumping me and ask me for a second chance. So no, i don't think that I'm the problem.
@Yeahimamusicalfan
8 ай бұрын
@@thelostdutchesswhy are you even wondering that? Why can’t you just take it as it is instead of asking if that person was the problem? If you’re gonna ask this might as well as the people who have been cheated on to ask “maybe you were the reason they cheated? Over though of that?” Smh
@theactualuser
5 ай бұрын
@@thelostdutchess Did you ever stop to consider how common this BS of women being the way the comment addresses them to be is? Just wanna find ways to slip blames onto to men, thinking women can't do sh*t.
@Vgs183
2 жыл бұрын
Poor Ethan. He deserves better anyways
@thaistomp
2 жыл бұрын
He's the only decent person on the show tbh. Lol.
@voxextremos22
2 жыл бұрын
@@thaistomp Lexi????
@squidbate3404
2 жыл бұрын
@@voxextremos22 fez?
@us3r8620
2 жыл бұрын
This was stupid and unnecessary. This scene was not needed. Poor writing. Barbie being done dirty
@harryainsworth6923
2 жыл бұрын
barbie got a paid for her job, shes a professional actor, i doubt she particularly cares
@damionisca8902
2 жыл бұрын
whole shows poor writing
@jdkingsley6543
2 жыл бұрын
This exactly what happens to someone who on the journey she. I know a ton girls came of age just like she did. And became the same type of girl
@HBICTiff
6 ай бұрын
Kat is the worst character in the show, like sorry not sorry. Barbie does the best she can with the writing but they just did NOT know what to do with her character.
@asifallintonothingne
6 ай бұрын
Yeah they totally fumbled it on this one. Her first arc was honestly so interesting! I Thought they were going to do something cool with it but then in S2 she got like no lines and then pulls this. Bummer.
@Okkotsu86275
2 жыл бұрын
I try to tell people Kat was horrible, shitty and selfish person. Ethan deserve way better than her, but of course most are going to take her side because she the lady. Ethan x Maddy need to get together. They would balance each other out nicely.
@Okkotsu86275
2 жыл бұрын
@@adeaxel3125 Wft what
@RANDOM-pf1ve
2 жыл бұрын
hmm, ethan with maddy idk how i feel abt this
@Okkotsu86275
2 жыл бұрын
@@RANDOM-pf1ve Cool beans
@carlosestornudo9558
2 жыл бұрын
Kat definitly needs more experience in love, after all, all she knew was a very idealistic fantasy and passionate "love"
@marion2648
2 жыл бұрын
that's weird but why not
@blackalphagaming8010
2 жыл бұрын
This was pathetic and an Unnecessary scene. There was no value or meaning behind the scene And I felt like they Was bored and had an extra scene and did not know what to put in. so they just said Hey let's just make something stupid and idiotic and keep it moving
@iDewThis4Yu
2 жыл бұрын
People need to stop trying to sound smart and say this scene is “bad writing” because they don’t like the fact that kat isn’t being likable 😂. That’s just goofy.
@gee2541
2 жыл бұрын
It’s bad writing because of the dialogue lol middle school writing level
@iDewThis4Yu
2 жыл бұрын
@@gee2541 okay now THAT. I can give you. Like I get it was a comedic scene..like her whole story line since season one has always been light hearted (except the webcam black screen guy)..but if your saying it’s bad writing because this shit wasn’t really funny..I agree. I just don’t agree with people who are saying “omg kat would never do this her and Ethan should be together their goals!”..like shut up..she’s an asshole..that’s literally the point of her character, explaining the reason behind girls/people who act like this
@Whofuckencares808
2 жыл бұрын
Can ppl just call Kat for what she is a creep and toxic person. Y r ppl defending her? "Oh her past" BS. Do that to other characters also then. 🙄
@justinbanks2664
2 жыл бұрын
I'm not protective over some HBO character. I just have a different opinion than you.
@justinbanks2664
2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy people being shitty on TV, it's just her character has lost a lot of development and screen time her actions feel unearned and lazy. She's a flat character, and her actions come across corny and dull especially given her development before. But I've never really cared about Kat all that much, I'm just saying I didn't buy this scene. That's how I feel.
@viviv6774
2 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched the show, I'm only watching part of it because this is exactly the type of things I've avoided all of my teenage years. But this scene is interesting. Not because of Kat's behaviour but because of Ethan's reaction to it. It isn't big but I really appreciate how realistic his reaction to her bullshit is. Obviously Kat is supposed to be more of a main character than Ethan but I like how, in reality, here Ethan is the real "hero" of the scene.
@meliiina_4647
2 жыл бұрын
no words, but: WE WERE ROOTING FOR YOU! WE ALL WERE ROOTING FOR YOU, HOW DARE YOU!
@margarethmichelina5146
4 ай бұрын
Why would anyone likes Nate Jacobs when Ethan exists? He's the most normal character in the show.
@MacenW
2 жыл бұрын
If she broke up with me that way by lying like that, keep in mind these hands are rated e for everyone, they don’t descriminate
@charlesdavid4106
2 жыл бұрын
Kat excuse is weak like her! Ethan will be alright and move on
@19145_hw
2 жыл бұрын
It's bullshit like this that makes some guys hate women, just be fucking honest we will respect you for it at the end of the day and there is a possibility for friendship after
@Okkotsu86275
2 жыл бұрын
Shit like this damages some men
@infinitymixtapes9562
2 жыл бұрын
Fr this scene hit waay too close to home. Not all girls are like this but too many are
@catharineredacted4931
2 жыл бұрын
Hating all women because one was a witch isn't the answer tho mate
@thaistomp
2 жыл бұрын
@@catharineredacted4931 Most of the really fine ones are like this though.
@terzamadre685
2 жыл бұрын
I hate the way she tried to reverse everything so Ethan would feel bad. But she is so ridiculous.
@TheJcg14
2 жыл бұрын
My boy Ethan deserves better💯💯
@daretoran5616
2 жыл бұрын
Ethan has a 10K IQ.
@arikray7030
2 жыл бұрын
Yall need to chill out with your parasocial relationships with Barbie, you don't get to control what happens to your uwu fav character and getting a shitty arc, she doesn't own this character above the writers and neither do you. that's just life
@soph996
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but if the writer (Sam, alone apparently) cared about his story and his fans he wouldn't trash the character and the story like that I haven't seen much of Euphoria, I've never even heard of Barbie before this year but I can still see that they ruined her character and gave her a shit plot line And fans who are invested in the TV show or found comfort in a fat and confident girl are allowed to be upset And if rumours are to believed and this reduced screen time and shit characterisation is bc of disagreements between Barbie and Sam that makes it even more condemnable
@lizxoxox
2 жыл бұрын
kat gaslighting Ethan is so funny LMFAOAOA
@thaistomp
2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing you do the same? Lol.
@Okkotsu86275
2 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't be funny the other way around
@zet7670
2 жыл бұрын
@@Okkotsu86275 yeah it would she'd be off the hook
@lizxoxox
2 жыл бұрын
@@thaistomp i do
@lizxoxox
2 жыл бұрын
@@Okkotsu86275 yes it would
@harryainsworth6923
2 жыл бұрын
all u sayin this is bad writing when i seen this shit go down irl, ppl are cray cray
@jackhawk8997
2 жыл бұрын
That's you're opinion, normal people don't do this...this is juvenile behavior
@harryainsworth6923
2 жыл бұрын
@@jackhawk8997 yeah i agree its beyond juevenile
@asmartdumba55
2 жыл бұрын
Never use cray cray again 🤦🏾♂️
@harryainsworth6923
2 жыл бұрын
@@asmartdumba55 no, i like it
@meliiina_4647
2 жыл бұрын
Kat in this scene: I've gotta put me first... I gotta put me first! I gotta put keep first!
@nathanr4633
2 жыл бұрын
Ain’t even seen euphoria but I can tell Ethan is the man
@margaretforsey7763
2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Kat was so awful!
@ThyyRFLeX8
2 жыл бұрын
Prob the worst scene of the ep... wtf happend to kat . Just like Ethan said she could have just been honest I think her knowing Ethan she could've just told him. Hopefully they work it out "in terms of actually ending the relationship in good terms " cause this was some unnecessary BS lol
@delune1329
2 жыл бұрын
Kat has always been a vindictive, shallow and grouchy person. Nothing "out of the blue" about this. She always puts this bad bitch persona. That's what she was trying to do.
@viviandelgado695
2 жыл бұрын
@@delune1329 Thank you. I don't understand why people act like this is out of character when this isn't the 1st time she's talked to Ethan like that. A good example was at the Halloween party.
@ThyyRFLeX8
2 жыл бұрын
@Vivian Delgado never said she wasn't s1 she was seen him talking to his sister or cousin "I think" and she had sex eith a random guy out of spite. People found this dumb because kat admit he wasn't a problem and that it was her. She even in this said seen knew she fucked up after Ethan left. She jumped through hell and brimstone to get out the relationship when all she had to do was say it wasn't working out for her lmaoo even Ethan himself called her out that she doesn't want to be in a relationship and its OK
@viviandelgado695
2 жыл бұрын
@@ThyyRFLeX8 I never claimed you did. I said "people". If that doesn't apply to you then good. I was referring to the other comments I saw and I was responding to the comment above mine.
@viviandelgado695
2 жыл бұрын
@@ThyyRFLeX8 Also are you going to reply to the comment that initially responded to you or just mine? 🤔
@TeamStudNation1280
2 жыл бұрын
Kat is what we call an unloyal skeez (couldn't think of another phrase)
@magnificusdominusduxchad4229
3 ай бұрын
kat is like the typical "why doesnt anyone want me" type while being the worst kind of human
@bumblerbree
Жыл бұрын
when she said 'i have a brain disorder' i thought she was gonna follow it up by saying she must be crazy because she's not into him even though he's great. guess that's on me lmao
@PercyMezaOfficial
2 жыл бұрын
What the series does is simply draw the characters as broken, hormonal, not perfect and making such stupid decisions as teenagers. Perhaps we have once lived obsessed like Cassie, stupidly tried to break up like Kat, lose our way like Rue, or tried to be possessive like Maddy. Each of them have their flaws, some too evil and irreversible like Nate (which is too cruel to justify it). They are young human beings, not role models.
@thaistomp
2 жыл бұрын
All people like this must be punished. Straight degenerates 🤷♂️
@flataffect
2 жыл бұрын
Ya but there’s also some shit writing such as with Kat.
@Seth_rs
2 жыл бұрын
I hate when people get mistreated all their life and then when they get a glimpse of power over someone else they use it to hurt them so much
@jacktaipen2077
2 жыл бұрын
I kept waiting for her to start laughing, thought it was all a prank
@boodlesofdoodles9992
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know anything about this show but why does this feel like a what would you do episode. “Man breaks up with a woman for having a terminal illness in a restaurant. If you overheard us, what would you do?” Like wtf is going on rn
@thecluckster3908
Жыл бұрын
2:22 I would leave that’s what I would do
@brittanythomas32
2 жыл бұрын
She could've done this a easier way why make up a lie to break up with him
@taliamiller3381
2 жыл бұрын
Do people want perfect characters who never do anything wrong? That would make for an extremely uninteresting show. If you write off a character in your mind when they do something bad, you’re going end up hating everyone on this show lol. The point is that they all have pretty big issues so of course they’re going to behave in dysfunctional ways. You don’t have to condone everything they do, but there’s still room for compassion.
@PrinceLuis100
2 жыл бұрын
Kat faked a terminal illness to break up with a boy. If that aint trash, I dont know what is.
@soph996
2 жыл бұрын
I think it's more of general disappointment with Kat's character arc Yeah, making mistakes and having issues is basically the whole plot of this show but you could achieve that for Kat in ways that don't ruin her character so entirely
@taliamiller3381
2 жыл бұрын
@@soph996 yeah that makes sense, I mean I was disappointed in her too and I think that the way she treated Ethan was pretty immature and shitty. I’m not really surprised, though, because there’s been a lot of build up to Kat having having some significant issues (becoming a teenage dominatrix/sex worker as a pretty big sign of it). That doesn’t excuse her from anything, but it can help explain her behavior. Overall, I like how the show creates a lot of three-dimensional flawed characters, but I think that a lot of the discourse around the show is stunted by the tendency to place people into black-and-white categories of “good” and “toxic trash.” It glosses over all the nuance that the show so skillfully creates. Anyways, I think that Kat’s a smart girl, just young, not very emotionally intelligent, and extremely insecure deep down (which she desperately tries to hide). It’s only realistic to portray someone with those issues doing things that are dysfunctional. I’m rooting for Kat and I hope she has a character arc of taking accountability and learning to love herself.
@pennyroyalty
2 жыл бұрын
Right, because the only way to write an interesting character is for them to be either amoral or a mess. Big creative. Huge brain.
@zet7670
2 жыл бұрын
@@taliamiller3381 o please she made up a dumb excuse to break up with a guy she wasn't attracted to
@pradagorl
3 ай бұрын
i think her insecurities put her at constant defense. she started calling him things that she was doing herself
@donmalvado
2 жыл бұрын
how do yall just sit down turn on a TV and watch Euphoria and enjoy it
@joshuadgoldberg1176
2 жыл бұрын
yall read so much into shit, this scene is hilarious
@joshz4166
2 жыл бұрын
There's many such cases like this that everyone ignores
@Aurora-hh7if
2 жыл бұрын
At this point we have no happy or wholesome moments and it’s just getting ridiculous man :/
@Okkotsu86275
2 жыл бұрын
Kind of makes hard to root for the characters. When their terrible self-destructive
@neressia12
2 жыл бұрын
Fez and Lexi maybe? :(
@Aurora-hh7if
2 жыл бұрын
@@neressia12 I mean I just hope so cause lexi gonna expose everyone in her play and apparently the police coming on to fez, ashtray and faye which upsets me cause it makes me feel like they won’t see each other that often or the relationship between them will be ruined :(
@parkourguy4567
2 жыл бұрын
@@Aurora-hh7if they’re gonna kill fez and ashtray in a police shootout I think ): the writing in this season is so odd
@Aurora-hh7if
2 жыл бұрын
@@parkourguy4567 honestly let’s just hope fez, ashtray and Faye somehow make it out alive or manage to escape form them and yeah I agree the writing has been very chaotic this season :/
@user-ei7ed6zy9k
Жыл бұрын
Average twitter user who gathers her vocabulary and personality off twitter
@allys744
14 күн бұрын
Ethan’s not a “nice guy” for the time being only to explode when he gets rejected by a woman. He’s a genuinely good guy. He deserves far better than the merciless, ungrateful Kat
@owenleal
9 ай бұрын
Ngl, Kat has always been top 3 worst characters in the show. They want her to be sympathetic so bad, but she just seems like a huge narcissist.
@NataliaTimea-te7ih
5 күн бұрын
Despite all the controversies going on with the actors couldn’t they just really put a little more effort into Kat’s storyline in season 2??? I feel like they started to build sth interesting in the 1st season and she actually had screentime there…but in s2 it was as if she didn’t even exist…And the fact the actress left the show just makes it even more tragic…O.O
@auroragonzales2955
2 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion : Barbie doesn’t get sympathy from me because of her argument with sam, he is the director even if she hates her character why bitch and tell the WRITERS AND DIRECTOR they should change it? Especially if your not a house hold name actor she’s a model in real life so to argue with the writers is hella diva and unprofessional your there to act and do your job not try to be in charge. Not surprising they cut her characters story out why start shit with the people putting you on lol?
@jauhwilliams8618
2 жыл бұрын
She has to act out what he writes down! So she should be able to express her opinion. All good leaders should be able to take constructive criticism!
@auroragonzales2955
2 жыл бұрын
@@jauhwilliams8618 true but that’s different then arguing and saying you don’t like the direction of the script, it’s not up to her she’s there to act and play the part not re write the script that’s disrespectful af tbh
@bratzbabe187
2 жыл бұрын
@@auroragonzales2955 If an actor's not comfortable with something then they are allowed to have a say in it. She didn't want to have an eating disorder storyline because that could've been triggering for her which is understandable. Also, if you're calling her out then you also have to call Sam out. It was immature of him to cut out ALL of her scenes for a personal matter
@phebebruce2281
Ай бұрын
The way she gaslighted him💀
@flixvs7910
10 ай бұрын
anyone else here from the degenerocity video?
@harshvardhansinghmanna2848
10 ай бұрын
Which video ?? Pls tell
@nibari305
5 ай бұрын
annoying characters@@harshvardhansinghmanna2848
@derrickgentryhumbleblessed8772
2 жыл бұрын
This man saw right through her lie she tried to play him for a fool unbelievable Kat
@verminstyx
2 жыл бұрын
i used to relate to kat because i used to do smex stuff for validation but when no longer liked my bf i owned up to the problem being me and i needed mental help and didn’t want to hurt him by being clingy and crying all of the time over him. being a teenager sucks and it’s so confusing.
@victorbrown670
2 жыл бұрын
Everyone’s bashing the director but I see no wrong with Kats change of character because there are girls like this who are lost and found a good boyfriend but isn’t happy themselves and still find themselves and push the good ones away. It’s just reality
@PrinceLuis100
2 жыл бұрын
Not an excuse to fake a terminal illness just for a break up.
@davipenha
2 жыл бұрын
(Her, not the director)
@ei5859
2 жыл бұрын
I'm ashamed but it's true, I'm like Kat too with my finally first bf it was great to see someone experiencing this too but i know that what she's doing in this scene is really baf
@crylittlesister6377
Жыл бұрын
You literally just described all of my ex girlfriends in a nutshell
@Bebel-fx5sp
4 ай бұрын
You seeing no wrong with Kat's behavior shows you clearly have no moral standards nor basic human decency. You sound despicable and it's outright disgusting you're attemtping to justify or normalize this behavior. Nothing about this is even remotely acceptable. Please do not again speak of such verbal sodomy.
@thewhitelotusxdeviantart5246
2 жыл бұрын
Im confused. Kat dumped Ethan for what reason? She just wasn't feeling it anymore?
@juliaz3308
2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@AstralYouth
2 жыл бұрын
It was so extra for no reason. They really massacred her character
@Okkotsu86275
2 жыл бұрын
Because he was nice and boring. She's one of those who needs passionate and manly man types. Just look at the fantasy she had
@AstralYouth
2 жыл бұрын
@@Okkotsu86275 nah she is just fucked up and ethan in a genuine dude. Thats why she tried to gaslight him n shit to break up so she won’t feel guilty. Ethan deserves better
@Okkotsu86275
2 жыл бұрын
@@AstralYouth Also that
@buttercuplove4030
2 жыл бұрын
i think cat just does not like ethan as her bf. like he is not her type! maybe she was interested by his kindness in the beginning of their relationship, but then she got bored i guess with ethan..it's like she does not have a fling anymore while she is in the relationship. And she really wants to break up with him but don't want to be the bad guy, so she gaslighted him!
@zet7670
2 жыл бұрын
yup you get a gold star
@sa5772
7 ай бұрын
I get kat being an immature kid who doesn’t know how to break up with someone but I don’t get how she thought her excuse about dying would work. Or was she trying to provoke a fight so she had a reason to break up with him?
@kayliannawilson2641
2 жыл бұрын
they had the chance going into season 2 to continue kat's arc of becoming a better person and learning that she is in fact loveable and being the only actually good character in the show, so why didn't they? they made her super annoying and bitchy and toxic as some sort of awful attempt to keep people even remotely interested in her story, but it just made me want to care about her even less.
@hello.1847
2 жыл бұрын
HOLY SHI ITS RON FROM TWD HOW DID I ONLY J NOTICE THAT
@Unknown-bq9id
2 жыл бұрын
I'll be honest: if I'd been writing season 2, maybe have Kat realize that she's bisexual/lesbian (maybe have some hints leading up to it), and break up with Ethan for that reason because she doesn't want to hurt him. The reason I bring this up is because Barbie Ferreira is lesbian IRL, and that would have been far more interesting instead of what we got--granted, this scene and Kat's non-appearances were due to the RL backstage drama between Barbie and the writer...
@juliaz3308
2 жыл бұрын
When did she call him an incel?
@gee2541
2 жыл бұрын
She said “is this some manipulation tactic you found on some incel Reddit forum”
@Dishonored35
2 ай бұрын
“I feel like your lying” WELL YEAH NO SHIT SHE FUCKING LAUGHING
@hello.1847
2 жыл бұрын
This scene had me PISSED
@yourlocalcurrycel6717
2 жыл бұрын
NevER began for Ethancels
@xana7088
2 жыл бұрын
She tried but didn't like him ... She should have been honest instead of this lie ... She used to be one of my favourite characters ! Good now I have a reason to hate her.
@jchaloey
2 жыл бұрын
i love her sm im sorry icl 😭
@mrpie1730
Жыл бұрын
You need some help
@Thunder-StrickenStudios
Жыл бұрын
Degenerocity brought me here.
@dharmallars
7 ай бұрын
My thing about this is like. What was the plan going forward? Obviously he could talk to anyone and find out she’s lying about having a terminal illness. So was she going to keep up the lie? Was she gonna actually pretend she was dying so she didn’t have to break up with him?
@pinkforeverlove1
2 жыл бұрын
This made me dislike Kat appreciate Ethan.
@archivez101
2 жыл бұрын
I mean...he said his Reddit name was inceluprising lol
@kimstew
2 жыл бұрын
Lol mans made a joke once and Kat took it personally
@7_philk
Жыл бұрын
Give a clown some attention for the first time see how they act want but don’t need anyone God bless my man .
@l.a9974
24 күн бұрын
Damn the director really didn’t like her, he messed up her character
@Floyzl
2 жыл бұрын
Kat is so annoying and Ethan deserves better.
@theanimeboy9953
5 ай бұрын
Well its sad that kat isnt gonna be in season 3 because her actress got into conflict with euphoria's creator
@rachelmariegonzalez1693
2 жыл бұрын
I like them together. Nice Couple
@marvingonzalez8586
2 жыл бұрын
Did you see the video?
@idnotapplicable
4 ай бұрын
Oooh. This is how my last breakup went. Was getting gaslit and called her out for it.
@imrankassam5126
Жыл бұрын
this took me outttt
@Osenga18
2 ай бұрын
Ethan the Gigachad
@AmIWhoIThinkIAm
2 жыл бұрын
Shush... Hula Girl w/ googie-eyes on bottle of Trader Vic's 151 Rum : Kat is kind of standard for high school girls. At least that's how I remember them back in the 90's. Me: you were supposed to forget that. Hula Girl w/ googie-eyes: we never forget or forgive Bobby. Bobby swirls bottle: Hula Girl w/ googie-eyes: rolls eyes
Пікірлер: 461