Did I see a Band Width of 2.6 on the 7800 and 2.4 on the Kenwood TS990?
@francescodigiovanni4632
5 жыл бұрын
You can tune to 1 Hz, why don't you tune correctly????
@g4rni149
10 жыл бұрын
To make a direct comparison BOTH receivers would need to have the same IF filter bandwidth. The Icom is set at 2.6 kHz and the Kenwood at 2.4 kHz. Assuming both have an LF cutoff of 200 Hz it's obvious that the Kenwood ought to reveal less high frequency noise as it will reject above 2.6 kHz whereas the Icom will reject above 2.8 kHz. They need to be set the same so far as is reasonably practicable.
@Endogamy
8 жыл бұрын
Indded!
@ivankrakov1040
5 жыл бұрын
+ icom NR off регулятор ручка, а на 990 nr1 max стоит. Разные установки.
@KrzysztofSJK
2 жыл бұрын
Normally (at shift = 0) on SSB Icoms have aritmetic middle frequency 1500 Hz, so at BW = 2600 Hz we have 200 - 2800 Hz range. Shape factor is defined at 60/6 dB, in other words in range 60-6 dB. I suppose (in my IC7410 I measured) that Icoms have very low "acoustic" shape factors (in range 6-0 dB). Therefore it sounds clear, but sharp.
@scandsr
11 жыл бұрын
Icom ic-7800 is clearly the winner. There is very little Qrm if any with the main station transmitting and the Ic-7800 receiving. Both are good radios but who expects the Ts-990 to be better, you get what you pay for. Ts-990 is like a bargain basement Ic-7800; If you can't afford the price of the icom, kenwood would be my next choice?
@carlosmar2676
8 жыл бұрын
some times people judge by the looks of the radio, but i really think that tx audio on kenwood is much better, i have heard nothing but complements from kenwood owners in regards to their tx audio.
@HH-os7zh
7 жыл бұрын
I thought I saw the Kenwood TS 990 was using a 2.4 filter, and the Icom 7800 a 2.6 khz filter. Also I thought the Icom was at 7150.05, so it was off frequency. In my opinion this is not a fair comparison between the radios. I wish I had over 10K to buy both and compare, that would be nice.
@glennclark7472
5 жыл бұрын
So strange how everyone has differeng ears and frequency response. If money was no object....and u could have 1 rig period....yaesu ft1000mark v.most pleasing to my ears..loaded with crystal filters very minimal dsp if any true dsp..i have a ft9000loaded with every filter units. and dmu..2nd rx and pep upgrade...stays covered and turned on 1/2 hour a week....backup grab n go rig the old problomatic kenwood ts850sat. Very pleasing to my old ears with nothing more than inrads..no intrest in any sdr....so my ears at 50 y. Old not feeling the older tube sound..and not much on the dsp sdr sound stuck right in the middle i guess like most i have a yaesu ft9000 ft1000markV....kenwood 850sat..and 450sat..icom 1 lonely 756 pro 111.i dont want or need anything older or newer..just a continuing search for improved antenna options in a. Virtual zero tolerance hoa..a challenge that never ends...on this one...990 pleases my ears more icom pleases the eyes..but i l8ke a actual meter ...hence i picked the yaesu ft9000..over the icom 7800 and even the ts990 when presented with all 3 at the time....for the same price....dont think the 9000 was ever top at anything but pleasing to my ears...period...also i currently do surprisingly well with a radioworks carolina windom 40 and 80..and a ground mounted 6btv with 32 radials all invisable to almost anyone but me...
@elanpaim4774
10 жыл бұрын
one more comment some one said about the sound well this guy didn't try set them on wide since the 990 have top audio if you set the filter right .
@titipsy
9 жыл бұрын
what italian ham does not use a linear amplifier :-(
@macattach8510
7 жыл бұрын
I have had all three Icom, (IC-7600, 7800 and now I own the IC-7700. For the mone you are better off with the 7700. First Kenwood screwed up by putting a better 2nd reciever in the radio then the main reciver. Now how stupid is that. They put the TS-590s recive in the 2nd reciver and it sounds better then the main. Come on Kenwood.. WHY??? I'll sick with my IC-7700. :0)
@pauldhoff
11 жыл бұрын
Tune the kenwood in........ gggeeezzzzz Paul
@glwilburn
10 жыл бұрын
I have a 7800 and it is a great rig but if I had to buy new again I'd buy the 990S. Have had a chance to play with both side by side and their performance was so close it would be IMHO difficult to spend $3 to $4 K more for a new 7800
@PY2ECM
11 жыл бұрын
Come on. Now the TS-990 is the king. BUT IC-7800 is a awesome machine too. Saying that the IC-7800 is better than the TS-990 is equal to say that the Core2Duo is better than the Core i5.73 for all.
@GregGNP
5 жыл бұрын
The Icom clearly wins with the Kenwood more of a noise box.
@DJ369-Miami
9 жыл бұрын
In my opinion the 990's second display is total waste of space (and cost). Does one REALLY need a virtual dial and another display of the current frequency which you already have on the main screen?
@petbytes7167
8 жыл бұрын
+Cone Head The second display is for the sub-receiver for simultaneous reception on different bands.
@1OFGODSOWN
2 жыл бұрын
@@harleybowie LOL,it's Obvious that you don't understand the controls on the ICOM 7800 but Thanks much for the Laughter. {:>)
@HamRadioPod
11 жыл бұрын
Secondo il mio parere di gran lunga superiore il 7800 della Icom! Complimenti per il video!
@sin4psi77
11 жыл бұрын
l'audio del kenwood sembra imbottigliato e quello dell'icom troppo stridente...un problema di setup?
@madflyer1093
10 жыл бұрын
ahh if only i had 8000 kicking around, i think ill spend my money on my antennas instead, my ic-7000 is still serving me well
@ve7yan
9 жыл бұрын
you speak my mind, pal.
@cod4madass
9 жыл бұрын
madflyer1093 Snap, I couldn't agree more. I will keep my ts690s and buy antennas. It's pointless having a ts990 or ic7800 if you only have a g5rv lol
@alphasxsignal
9 жыл бұрын
+M6EXH You need both monobanders and 7800
@alphasxsignal
9 жыл бұрын
+M6EXH 4El Quad and 7800 and you are all ready to go.
@Sky1
6 жыл бұрын
HRO Discount Price: $6,579.95
@OtziVideo
11 жыл бұрын
The ICOM IC-7800 is STILL the KING !!!! ;) The Display and RX/TX is over 10 Years older and still mutch mutch better ! THX for the nice Video :) 73´s
@1OFGODSOWN
2 жыл бұрын
Actually, the ICOM 7850/7851 is the New KING! {:>)
@oe5pop320
8 жыл бұрын
The RXEQ is off. Kenwood for ever!
@gonebamboo4116
3 жыл бұрын
Glad I read all the comments, then watched again. My hat is off to many with attention to detail and noticed what I and many others missed. This vid is more of a tribute to those people than a decent comparison.
@PY2ECM
11 жыл бұрын
In this video we can see the IMD performance of TS-990.
@W4MBU
9 ай бұрын
I own both of the radios and my 7800 has the firmware update 3.51 and hands down it beats the Kenwood ts-990
@conradvonsiegfried8373
10 жыл бұрын
La verdad yo me quedo con mi YAESU FT-80 que se aguanta el traqueteo en el hermoso camino destruido cuando voy a buscar carbon en el 1114 a Taco Pozo en el Chaco...Saludos y muy bueno el video.
@alessandromangone4384
10 жыл бұрын
Bhe..... per non sbagliare credo che le comprerò tutte e due.... ;)
@heinzgosche2493
9 жыл бұрын
All that excessive use of DSP makes every radio sound like a pile of crap.
@-r7dn-536
3 жыл бұрын
ER4DX 🙏 goodbye friend of eternal flight on air 73
@michaelm1keyhardy865
7 жыл бұрын
prefere the icom 7800
@radioman6489
5 жыл бұрын
7800 is a better radio
@oe5pop320
3 жыл бұрын
ER4DX and IV3YER booth SK. R.I.P
@TheHamshack
11 жыл бұрын
I have to say going by this very bad side by side comparison in my opinion, the icom 7800 wins hands down on the RX, the ts990 in this video sounds dreadful and the 7800 sounds alot more natural sounding.. I have the 7800 and wouldnt part with it.. This video has totally put me off the ts990 but i will see other videos.. not that keen on how the 990 looks either or is it just me.. looks abit ugly compared to the beautiful 7800.. who ever designed the ts990 i guess was left handed! James G0SEC
@Frankit9gul
11 жыл бұрын
Ottima recensione Luigi, personalmente ho un debole per il 990, HI! Complimenti. IT9GUL
@DF7EE
11 жыл бұрын
The ICOM had NR on and even more worth NB as well. The NB can cause some serious dergradation in audio quality. Even with that "unfavorable" setting i think they are very close.
@TheHamshack
10 жыл бұрын
I have to say that the audio on the 990 really sucks, sounds off frequency, my 7800 doesnt sound this bad that i do know, nice radio but prefer my 7800 any day. could be the video and bad tuning etc I think the 7800 looks alot nicer but thats just my own opinion of course. just my 5 cents.. James G0SEC
@JamesJ7851
10 жыл бұрын
Hi James, I picked up a new TS-990 recently. I have owned an IC-7700 and FTdx9000MP, both are very fine rigs. The TS-990 sounds in person just as good as those rigs. IMO, it's actually more versatile, because you can set up the audio to your preference using the built in 18 band EQ, only offered on the Kenwood. I've also found that the TS-990s' DSP works much better for weak signal SSB than the DSP in the Icom and Yaesu. I've viewed some of your videos, I enjoyed them as well as the ones by IV3YER. 73 de AB4D
@fractennainc
11 жыл бұрын
The IC-7800 RX has better signal to noise. It also sounds more natural. OTOH, listening to ANYTHING with a slow AGC is not a good test for comparison.
@TubeYouFrancois
11 жыл бұрын
I have asked a few friends around which is not HAMs to listen to the signals. This way I think it could be objective. 5 out of 5 says that one of the two sound much more clear (better than the other) and is less harsh on the ears. The independant audio vote goes to the Kenwood. For me, both are great rigs. 73 ZS6FDX
@wc4r
11 жыл бұрын
Clearly the Kenwood wins. The bandscope is so slow on the Icom making it just a fancy meter enhancement. The Kenwood scope is useful (although also slow). For a real scope, I'll go with FlexRadio.
@MiguelTrestini
11 жыл бұрын
I guess The Icom has better RX, I´m not sure if you tested with the 2.6 Khz Filter actvated.However, Congrats for the video. 73 de YV4MT
@sergioporco9657
5 жыл бұрын
NR + NB1 Y NB2? CUALQUIER COSA, ESTA COMPARACION NO SIRVE , POR DIOS NADIE SABE HACER UN BUEN VIDEO COMPARATIVO
@kyriakosioannou2072
10 жыл бұрын
Both are great radios. I think it's a mater of personal preference. Nice video.The name of the intro track?
@eogg25
11 жыл бұрын
TS 990 e bello, buona fortuna con il tuo radio. 73
@lees983
11 жыл бұрын
Icom sounds much better
@1OFGODSOWN
6 жыл бұрын
ICOM is the KING of Amateur Radio so just swallow your pride & admit it.It's great being the KING. {:>)
@stefanogangale6566
11 жыл бұрын
é stasta rilasciata la versione 1.05 per il ts990
@Endogamy
8 жыл бұрын
The Kenwood has more creativity touch but here Icom reception quality is unbeatable!
@PA3EVY
11 жыл бұрын
thanks for your nice video, 73 pa3evy
@FrankMD11
11 жыл бұрын
Much more spatter on the Icom. Kenwood apparently has superior close in rejection. Dynamic range 2 kHz space 80 dB for the 7800 according to Sherwood Engineering. The 990 is not on their chart yet. I like the 7800's display!
@1OFGODSOWN
2 жыл бұрын
Obvious that you did not look at the settings on BOTH radios? Hopefully you will learn what you are talking about in the future because it's obvious that here you did not have a clue. LOL
@scandsr
11 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the Icom 7700 with dual band, which in my option would be an equal comparison to the kenwood ts-990.
@1OFGODSOWN
2 жыл бұрын
That is what a 7800 is? LOL
@johnwolf.8674
6 жыл бұрын
BUENA MAQUINA...
@flexairz
11 жыл бұрын
Yep...
@elanpaim4774
10 жыл бұрын
great vid and some of you think the icon 7800 /ic 770 is better think gain the ic 7800 have 13 years old dap the ts 990 is much better as well the price better look solid radio no PA issue as the ic 7800 or the ic 7700 have till the day . big win kenwood .
@alphasxsignal
9 жыл бұрын
990 sounds talking in barrel
@Endogamy
8 жыл бұрын
Not well tuned SSB?
@raytowler2286
5 жыл бұрын
The BC1 beat cancel filter on the 990 is on, this will affect the tone of the audio 🔉
@Penn1969
9 жыл бұрын
I've Owned an ICOM 7800 for the last four years and it really is a remarkable piece of engineering. Side-by-side, I do think that the ICOM pips the Kenwood to the post when it comes to Looks. ICOM in my opinion Are the best looking amateur radios on the market. I don't know whether you can change the signal meter on the 990, I don't like the signal meter on the radio in this video, it's not aesthetically pleasing to the eye at all. In fact, it's quite difficult to see the video, unlike the ICOM signal meter. I recently purchased a TS 590 & am very impressed with the receiver, it really is extremely good.However, would it make me choose a Kenwood over the ICOM, probably not.
@elanpaim33
7 жыл бұрын
for you the ic 7800 is the best you never test the ts990 so you don't know keep you mind open to all manufacture ,don't think you have it and since you do not have them don't give advise it look funny to me take care enjoy the hobby and get good antenna first before spending 10 k on radio
@Penn1969
7 жыл бұрын
Actually, I use an 11 element OB 11-5 at 60 feet. The 7800 is still going like a train, can't honestly ever see me replacing it until it completely packs up.
@elanpaim33
7 жыл бұрын
yes it is nice radio for sure but you didnt try the ts990 so my point is why to give an opinion on something you didnt have and trush it i have 2 990 of them as well pt8000a i never trush any radio every company do it different as they should all i say enjoy life to short vy 73 for now
@elanpaim33
7 жыл бұрын
remember one thing there is no poor radio in today technology it is a fact after using ever top notch radio even mil spec radio out there it is one of my hobby we taking over 15k or even over so i know well that there is no bad radio out there just some work different then there like car tv and woman take care enjoy it it is great hobby i am close to 50 years in the hobby never been off the air on this time vy 73
@elanpaim33
7 жыл бұрын
btw nice Chanel you have i am sorry to hear you disable i look on your Chanel what is that driving paddle you using never seen one interesting tool
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