Thanks! I know there are a lot of variables but you gave a great explanation of big(docile)/small(twitchy) and wind speed envelope for sizes, and overlap in quiver.
@PS-pd1uf
3 жыл бұрын
I am 95kg / 210lbs and i use and advice a 11 and 9 meter kite quiver. With a allround kite like a LF EV or north evo or so. Bigger kites are dangerous if the wind piked up.
@raghuram2815
6 жыл бұрын
Hello Chris and Paul, thanks for this video. Very helpful. Though, in a funnier vein, like Chris, I too do not agree with Phil necessarily about the need to have more bars just for the sake of wearing each one out less. :). I do not have my own gear yet. Been either learning or renting from instructors and schools. But in the process of getting my first kite, I too am always in this dilemma of 12m vs 14m. But the one pattern I see with responses is: All the folks online (like you guys for example, or other retail web sites of kite shops, or peeps on KiteForum) keep suggesting me the 14m (I weigh 200 lbs, btw). While both my local kite schools/instructors keep strongly suggesting 12m would be my most-used kite. And I live in Minnesota which is not too windy either. However, to clear out the confusion, I called a few people in SlingShot support itself, and they suggested 12m should do, especially if I am looking for a kite like Rally, which has lot of low-end grunt for heavy riders like me. Also, during most of my classes, I tried the Switchblades (cabrinha) which are not same shape as Rallys so maybe need a tad more wind to generate the power. Please let me know what you guys think about this ?? Also, Since Phil mentioned it as an example: I was also curious if you guys would have a suggestion for beginner/intermediate heavy rider (like me) between the "SlingShot Rally and Core Riot XR5: which is the better one?". The kind of kite that I like is one with the following 2 characteristics (apart from all other beginner things like easy re-launch, etc): 1. Low-end grunt to help with water-starts and initial get-going for my weight. 2. Being able to easily feel where the kite is, without always having to look at it, so I can concentrate more on board and riding.
@checker1o125
6 жыл бұрын
My first kite was an 8m. It was perfect for me because i learned to work the kite and get a good feel for where the bar should be positioned and so on. I was riding ab big door back then. So I think that it is terrible to give beginners big kites as a first kite. Btw great video
@midlerp
6 жыл бұрын
Good Point...using a large board with an undersized kite can make it really easy and forgiving. You may hate large kites for the rest of your kiteboarding career however if you're used to flying 8ms every day!!!! Did you learn a while ago or was this on bow kites?
@checker1o125
6 жыл бұрын
Houston Kiteboarding i learned 5 years ago, and you are right about that I don't really like big kites now. thats why I recently switched to waveboards. (weren't able to try out a hydrofoil yet)
@jurigrittner683
2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I'm a heavy rider about 110kg and would like to know, which would be the first medium wind kite for that?
@mikejohn1202
5 жыл бұрын
Good advise ... covered well, thanks to you both.
@raghuram2815
6 жыл бұрын
Since my first comment is too long, In case you don't have the time to read it all, a shorter version here. 2 questions: 1. Slingshot Rally or Core Riot XR5 ? 2. 12m or 14m? I weigh 200 lbs.
@midlerp
6 жыл бұрын
You're a MN guy and 200lbs, right? MN winds are GUSTY so the guys usually only ride if the wind is up so I could see going with the 12m over the 14m as "light winds" up there are usually gusting to high winds. My gut still says 14m all the way if you go with Rally...for Core I wouldn't go above the 12m as the XR5s light wind relaunch is not as good as the Rally especially in the middle of a deep lake with little to now wind at water level. Don't get me wrong if I had to pick XR5 or Rally I would rather ride XR5 but as the largest kite in your quiver I think the Rally would preform better and at a great value financially. Hope that helps.
@raghuram2815
6 жыл бұрын
Houston Kiteboarding Thanks a lot. That reply helps immensely. The gusty winds on the lakes is what I too guessed as why my local guys suggest different from what others suggest. Also, agree with your point about financial advantage with Rallys. On that note, do you happen to have any 2017 Rally 12ms available? The reason i asl for 2017 is so that you might give me a price advantage for those over the 2018s.
@dpwild328
6 жыл бұрын
Currently ride a 17m and a 12m - I'm a full sized kiteboarder ;). This seems to follow your logic. But lately I keep thinking about a 14 m. It seems to be The Sweet Spot most of the time. Whenever I have time to demo a kite it is the one I migrate towards and really enjoy.? The 17 feels too slow. 12m often feels like i have to work out too hard. What do you think?
@foilmountproducts5323
6 жыл бұрын
Jumping from the 17m to the 12m can be too big especially if you're over 200 lbs. I'd jump on a 14m and see if you may still want the 12m for windy days but I agree with you that you'll get a lot more days on a 14m rather than a 17/12m split. One of my best kiteboarding buddies is 220lbs and he is always on one kite size bigger than me...it seems to always be the 14m even it if is really windy. He will ride a 12m or a 10m but very rarely. As far as the 17m goes I'd keep it for sure as it is always better to be riding than sitting on the beach. Hope that helps a bit.
@tmotten
6 жыл бұрын
What about type of kite, ie allround freestyle werk a surf setting or a designated surf kite? I've got a 14 and my wife a 10 in the same model. Sounds great but I hear going strapless means a smaller kite? Don't like the idea of a 12 (still large) wave kite in between. Are those wave settings on all round kites just marketing?
@mauriciopadillamainero2763
3 жыл бұрын
Hi , I am planning on buying my first kite, I weight 94 kilos and the winds in my spot are from 14 to 25 knots. Some people have recomended me a 10 meters, but reading in forums I should use a 12 meters. Which size should I buy.
@jeroenjansen2813
2 жыл бұрын
14m
@jason7830
6 жыл бұрын
Im a newbie and havent purchased my first kite yet. I weigh 185, live in oklahoma city. Only have lake hefner as the kiting spot. What size kite do I need?
@midlerp
6 жыл бұрын
Give us a call 281-508-6485.
@midlerp
6 жыл бұрын
Jason, The winds at Hefner are high so I'd go with something small even for your first kite. I'd ask the local guys there however. They will know better what to get. If you got lessons locally they will know what size you're going to want. We sell the guys up there kites and they get really small sizes many times. Hope that helps! I think they have a facebook group you could post the question on.
@vittoriobonelli9093
5 жыл бұрын
In wave discipline, the right size of kite is 12 9 7 or 12 10 8? 😃 Now I use Ozone.
@checker1o125
5 жыл бұрын
I mean wave riding is hard in light winds dude plus with a big surfboard you do not need a 12
@jink6091
6 жыл бұрын
I think for most people number of kites is determined by the Mrs not the wind. Kinda like cars... and intimacy... and what you eat for dinner... and where you live... and Ugh!!! Bad video! Boo! Hiss! Bad! lol
@midlerp
6 жыл бұрын
Good point Jin, everyone has their constraints for sure. I know when I got into kiteboarding I was on the used equipment only track and had limited options. I still would have benefited by understanding what a good kite quiver consists of instead of me spending the first 3 years of my kiting career always on the wrong size/model gear for the conditions etc. It was even worse in the C-kite days as the kites had about half the range they have now. Once I figured out how much more enjoyable it is to have ideal sizes I was willing to restructure my priorities and my mixed gear quiver which was A MESS! We see this first hand in lessons where we coach clients who have been riding for years but never been on the right gear for the conditions. It is amazing how fast the new skills and tricks come!
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