See FreekinEnduro's video on the Cam Chain Tensioner removal and reset. I'm sorry I couldn't get footage of it but he explains the whole process perfectly. kzitem.info/news/bejne/24eIqoymq6WbpWU
@enchantedape8180
Ай бұрын
Thanks bro! Definitely a great visual on what to expect. Ordered my parts and tools. Dealer wanted a $800 just to check the valves.
@PRL1290
Ай бұрын
@@enchantedape8180 Anytime! Good luck on the valve check. Let me know if you have any questions.
@enchantedape8180
Ай бұрын
@PRL1290 much appreciated! I actually found a haynes manual for the bike. But seeing it done is a bonus!
@JonBecker81
5 күн бұрын
Honestly $800 seems cheaper than what I was thinking.
@bubsiesiegel
8 ай бұрын
Hey, Paul. Thanks tons for this video. After the heads have been re-shimmed, and the cams have been set to their correct timing, is there any procedure in the repair manual to follow before a ride? Also, I saw that you were on the KTM Forums, is there any social media that I can reach out to you at in case I have minor questions during my valve service? Any guidance is greatly appreciated.
@PRL1290
8 ай бұрын
Hey @bubsiesiegel, definitely. You want to make sure you properly reset the cam chain tensioners see the pinned comment for the link to a good video showing how to do it. After that spin the crank over by hand. Counterclockwise to make sure there's no valve to piston interference. Also, depending on the year you'll probably have to reset your service light which is easy. You can do it without going to the dealer. I'm not on social media other than KZitem but yeah definitely feel free to shoot me a message on KTM forums of you need anything. I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Happy to help out.
@bubsiesiegel
8 ай бұрын
@@PRL1290 Thanks tons, dude. 10mm shim kit, right? I have a 2019 that gets quite a bit of track use and I’m at 13k and I just want to prematurely do it for that fact.
@PRL1290
8 ай бұрын
@@bubsiesiegel anytime! 10mm shim kit will work for our bikes.
@bubsiesiegel
8 ай бұрын
@@PRL1290 Hey, Paul. This week I am going to tackle this. When you put your valve covers back on, did you use KTM’s recommended Loctite 5910 for the half moons? Or did you use an equivalent?
@PRL1290
8 ай бұрын
@@bubsiesiegel I used a thin layer of Right stuff silicone for the corners on the head side. sets up pretty quick. I applied after the first valve adjustment (it was sweating a little bit from 7k miles. Haven't had to re apply it after having the covers off for the 2nd time.
@JonBecker81
5 күн бұрын
Working on a crappy old Harley like I used to have wasn’t a big deal but man, this gives me anxiety just watching this. I’m afraid I’d never get it back together. I really want a 1290, can’t buy a new one and I keep hearing about this nightmare valve adjustment intervals.
@PRL1290
5 күн бұрын
@@JonBecker81 It's intimidating for sure. I started off adjusting the valves on my KLR650 and once I was comfortable doing that I took a crack at the 1290. I was super nervous when doing it the first time, took me 2 days. I have the process down now. That first start was nerve wracking but when it dialed to life it was a good feeling. I bought this when it was 2 years old with 7,200 mi on it. It pretty much looked new, which is what I was looking for, No big depreciation hit and no first service $$$. It's a fun bike, absolutely Rips.
@JonBecker81
5 күн бұрын
@@PRL1290 I had a KLR too. Never got into the valves on it. Wished I had. Only way to do it is just dive into it I guess and take your time. Worse case scenario you roll it on the trailer and have the dealer put it back together. 😂 and yeah, I never buy new bikes. They hold their value pretty well after that first depreciation hit.
@1Turnatatime
Жыл бұрын
Hey, when you replaced the shims you said you put a 2.50mm in to bring it back to spec, wouldn't that loosen the gap if the shim was already 2.55mm before replacing
@PRL1290
Жыл бұрын
Yes, that's correct, as the valves wear, the gap closes so you need a smaller shim to increase the gap. The objective is to keep the gap within a specified range.
@1Turnatatime
Жыл бұрын
@Paul Lucas I see, my intake valves are at 2.55, but I was gunna put 2.60. I may be thinking backwards on how the valves work. But thank you for clarifying
@PRL1290
Жыл бұрын
@@1Turnatatime you're welcome, glad I can help. With the 2.50mm shim what was the clearance you got from the feeler gauges?
@1Turnatatime
Жыл бұрын
@Paul Lucas I haven't gotten into it yet, I only took the worn ones out, but it's been too cold to get back into it. I was able to get a clearance from the feelers but I think it was because the cam lobes weren't flush even though everything was at TDC.
@JESUS_BRAHHH
3 ай бұрын
What happens if u turn the crankshaft the wrong way??
@PRL1290
3 ай бұрын
If the engine is in time and the cam chain tensioners are installed and providing tension it won't do any damage that I can see. I'm assuming if the cam chain tensioners are not installed or not pumped up with oil pressure and you rotate the engine clockwise or counter clockwise the chain can jump teeth causing the timing to be off. If you're trying to line up your crank and cams with their top dead center marks, if you miss the mark, just keep rotating until you get back to those marks instead of going backwards. The cam chain tensioners are designed to take up slack when the engine is spinning in One direction, a few rotations in the opposite direction shouldn't make your cam jump time but there is a good chance that it could.
@JESUS_BRAHHH
2 ай бұрын
@@PRL1290 cool thanks man, luckily my tensioner was installed. I can’t seem to find a way to get to the rear cylinder tensioner tho
@PRL1290
2 ай бұрын
@@JESUS_BRAHHH No prob! it's buried in there, probably best to take off the throttle bodies to get a straighter shot at the bolt.
@AleksandarStojiljkovic
3 ай бұрын
Hello. How many KM has engine? Thanks
@PRL1290
3 ай бұрын
36,000 Miles about 58,000 KM
@AleksandarStojiljkovic
3 ай бұрын
@@PRL1290 on first check 30k km or 19k miles did you found out off specs some valves? I am asking because on 4.gen they moved first valve check to 60k km. It's double from 3.gen
@PRL1290
3 ай бұрын
@@AleksandarStojiljkovic yes at 19k miles 30k KM one intake valve on front and rear cylinder was out of spec, the rear cylinder intake had 0 lash and it was completely closed. Also 2 exhaust valves on the rear cylinder were at the bottom of the spec. 4 valves total out of adjustment. I read the new Gen 4 bikes have a cam-shift variable valve timing system, so the cams and valve train could be much improved over the previous bikes.
@PRL1290
3 ай бұрын
@@AleksandarStojiljkovic Here are my previous measurements from the 1st valve adjustment and 2nd valve adjustment (shown in the video). Hope this helps. Valve wear looks to have slowed down, I'm predicting the 3rd valve adjustment will require minimal adjustments if any at all. Spec is Intake .10 - .15mm Exhaust .25 - .30mm @18k Miles Front cylinder Left/Right Exhaust .30 / .30 Intake .10 / .15 Rear Cylinder Intake .15 / .00 (.00 = no lash completely closed not good) Exhaust .25 / .25 @30k Miles just recently. Front cylinder Left/Right Exhaust .30 / .30 Intake .15 / .10 Rear Cylinder Intake .10 / .15 Exhaust .30 / .30
@kilobravo2373
Жыл бұрын
What's up buddy. Same bike, same year over here... do u ourself a favor and ditch that airbox and emission system. Unreal difference. Give me a shout back if you have questions about it. Thanks for the video!
@PRL1290
Жыл бұрын
Hey! Thanks bud, I was planning on installing the Rotty SAS and canister delete kit while doing this job but it was back ordered and showed up a month later, next time I have it apart I'll get it installed, it really sucks reinstalling it. What intake are you running?
@1Turnatatime
Жыл бұрын
If I take them out will it bring up codes or do I need the delete kit for it.
@PRL1290
Жыл бұрын
@@1Turnatatime the Rottweiler kit comes with dongles to accommodate the delete. No lights or codes.
@1Turnatatime
Жыл бұрын
@@PRL1290 gotcha, I ordered some the dongles for the o2 sensors from rottweiler to delete them, but I'm learning about the SAS too since I'm already trying to do the valves on mine now
@erixlast6020
Жыл бұрын
Why no modify stock box? Rotveler is price styff
@petrnovak3732
9 ай бұрын
I dont get it why you remove the throttle bodies it's not absolutely necessary.
@PRL1290
9 ай бұрын
This was my 2nd time doing this, I found it easier to access the front cylinder head, and easier to remove the valve cover and cam bridge bolts. It's tight with the throttle body in there but its possible to work around it. For me it was easier to do it with the throttle body out. Only takes 10 min extra but the amount of room you get is nice. Each time I do this I see other ways of doing things to finish quicker like instead of removing both cams at the same time and hanging the timing chain, I remove one cam install the new shims reinstall then take out the other. Small things like that. I'm pretty confident the next adjustment I can have finish in 2-3 hours. I also have a SAS delete kit from Rottweiler that will make this much easier to service.
@petrnovak3732
8 ай бұрын
@@PRL1290OK. Yes, SAS is really annoying in this operation. I have done valve clearance check after 27k km (17k miles) and its perfect, doesnt need to replace any shim.. luckily... only change the spark plugs (It Looks good but when it was disassembled...) Thanks and HF with SD
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