I couldn't tell, did the Kenwood the preamp on? I could see that the ICOM did. It is never easy to get a really good comparison when you're listening to a very very strong station. The best thing if you're going to do a comparison like this is to find a very weak station, then you probably get a better idea of which radio has the best ears. However, the ICOM is more expensive, but I don't think there would be a massive difference between what you can't & what you cannot hear. One would expect the ICOM to outperform the Kenwood once you've messed around with all the filtering. After all, if it doesn't have a slight edge on the Kenwood then what is the point of spending the extra money?
@hiramvazquez7868
12 жыл бұрын
I think the 7700 surpresses the QRM a bit better. I agree that it also has a better speaker which makes it easier on the ears. The difference being the 7700 is about 2-3 times the price!
@inferno7654
11 жыл бұрын
This is the reason why i always test the sound of the receiver with the same headset (heil sound), you can hear the real voice of the receiver only in this way.
@mm3sgq
12 жыл бұрын
I love Icom radios and have a few of them, but I think the Kenwood has the edge on audio. steve, MM0SGQ
@titipsy
9 жыл бұрын
Thanls fort sharing. Hard to compare two RTX this way. Many parameters including filters impact the audio, without to mention the quality of the speaker
@smackOfatz
12 жыл бұрын
well, you need the line audio signals from bouth TRX and make an accurate volume calibration. The build in speakers are different, also the chassis. A bigger chassis usually sounds more softer to the ear. but still a nice video to watch indeed.
@dambuster6387
8 жыл бұрын
Low signal down in the noise be able to here it, dynamic range is the most important factor for me.
@BartKus
9 жыл бұрын
I wish folks would use a common external speaker when comparing radios like this. A lot of this is recording the quality of the built-in (almost always bad) speaker. And as others have said, compare using a weak station.
@MrTalaue
8 жыл бұрын
that comparison ise absolutely useless, please use the right AGC and RF gain settings for SSB on both rigs and use the same speaker on the sets when switching.
@MrMikeiver
12 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I was sure the 590s was going to sound better but I was wrong, the icom sounds better I did not expect that as I have always been impressed with Kenwood receivers. I hear the new 990 uses similar architecture to the 590.
@Sky1
10 жыл бұрын
Is there a point to this test? Apparently we are not testing filtering and we are not testing sensitivity since we are tuned to a S9+ signal. Are we comparing speakers as heard through a double compressed codec over KZitem and heard through a laptop speaker? I think the test would be best if you re-do and show weak signals then try and eliminate to the best of your ability all noise filtering availble from each transceiver. Also share the same speaker.
@radiotech181
11 жыл бұрын
The ICOM has a larger speaker so it sounds better but the Kenwood sounds a bit flat. The Kenwood price is the decider for me. The ICOM is pretty but can't justify the price. Great video thanks.
@tanumaychakraborty2364
9 жыл бұрын
Kenwood TS590S is better according to its price.....IC7700 is a very excellent transceiver, every one can't purchase it...even its being tough to buy TS590S being a student...I am in side of Kenwood TS590S...Demo explanation is very good by both of you...I like this radio very much...VU3SQY
@gkendric
11 жыл бұрын
I have to agree with this post however the Kenwood also has awesome filtering and DSP. In fact the two, once all tricked out and adjusted by knowledgeable owners I believe will tend to tilt the comparison to Kenwood account of the overall price point. The ICOM is vastly more expensive. I'd of liked to have heard the IC7600 rather than the IC7000 but that's just me I suppose. A sub 2000 dollar radio compared to a 6000+ shouldn't be close at all. For the price I'd go with the FTDX5000MP.
@esd67
6 жыл бұрын
Always like Kenwood. I own Kenwood TS 590, old Icom 746 which has been a great radio. Had the Icom for 17 years. Both great radio's. People say, well this one hear better than the other. But you have to take in, People don't always hear the same or see the same with things like TV's. If you can't hear it or see it, what's the point. Like asking someone, how does my radio sound ??? You will get 100 difference answers.... You can show the specks on radio's and TV's, but it still comes down to what you can hear, or see.
@Jayfm62
9 жыл бұрын
Chalk and cheese, the IC7700 is a SUPERIOR radio throughout..... I know, 'coz I have owned one for 3 years now. Just a BRILLIANT transceiver... 73, VK5PO
@29DR194
12 жыл бұрын
Will be better lads if you use two difference audio channels left for icom right for Kenwood so we can hear two of them in the same time and just use balance to pick up one. 73
@0ndrous
11 жыл бұрын
Exactly, what kind of a test is this, a stock speaker comparison? Compare the price and the Icom had better have a better speaker, but I was certainly hoping this video used a pair of identical speakers so it would be the actual receivers compared without some other bias thrown in. I mean, how much more I$ the Icom, about 2-3 TIMES the price of the 590?!?!? Damn, if this would've compared them thru similar speakers what a cool test it would've been, especially if the 590 kept up with the Icom!!!
@alphasxsignal
12 жыл бұрын
The internal speaker on the 590 is not very large. You need a external speaker for it.
@sagaertj
10 жыл бұрын
Hi,next time use the same external speaker on both, would give a better comparision on the audio
@RichRodgersOnline
8 жыл бұрын
Well, besides the negative, I liked the test... Sure you could push buttons, yes you could have a very weak station. Anyway, Thank you for putting the video on! We have Icom lovers and Kenwood lovers. Just by the comparison on receiving without QRM they sounded very close and the S meter (which doesn't mean much) looks about the same!
@F41Driver
12 жыл бұрын
The Kenwood sounds better to me, but if I had the coin for the 7700 I'd probably have to have it.
@yaesuicomkenwood
10 жыл бұрын
in A/B comparison you have to switch min, each 20 second.
@MrToonfish
12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for deleting my previous message just because I said that I didn't like the "look" of the new Kenwood line of transceiver... That not means Kenwood radios are bad in any ways ! I had a 950SDX and 2 x 870S and that were GREAT radios ! 73 ON6CV.
@One1Ball
11 жыл бұрын
Use an external common speaker. Apples and oranges test....
@davidisraelyan5017
7 жыл бұрын
The Kenwood has a quieter noise floor, with less qrm!
@scandsr
11 жыл бұрын
This comparison should of been between the icom ic-7600 instead of the icom ic-7700 but the comparison was done because they monitor mono-band. Icom give the 7700 a dual band receiver so that the 7700 can be compared to the TS-990 because the Ic-7800 is still the king.
@abody9863
12 жыл бұрын
بليز الي عنده خلفيه عن الجهاز لايبخل علينا ودي اعرف بعد الجهاز ووصل للاسواق العربيه وايش مميزاته وكم سعره مشششششششششككككككككككككووووووورررررييييين
@inferno7654
11 жыл бұрын
ic-7700 all the life, except for the price... looking at the difference, the range of price is not so justified in terms of RX-TX performance, but the 7700 offer a lot of bells and whistles more than the 590.
@mm3sgq
8 жыл бұрын
I have to say, I think the 590 shades it for me on the audio, as that is what we are comparing. I am predomenantly a Icom user and have always preffered Icom. I own four Icom radios. I just recently bought the 590SG as I believe it is the best value radio in that price range. As the Icom radio on show is retailing for a few more thousand pounds, you might expect far superior audio but in my opinion it clearly is not. Ofcourse there are settings that can be manipulated, filters ect.. We all know that the Icom has many features that the Kenwood has not, however bandscopes and the likes can be ofset by simple things like HRD or computer control software. So in my opinion, the 7700 is a beautifull radio and I would have on if I could afford one, but I have to say the Kenwood gets my vote, not only for the price, but also, filters, cw features, computer control, reciever to name but a few. Regards, Steve mm0sgq.
@thegoldensaber4531
9 жыл бұрын
I want his job. His radio was more expensive than my car...
@vasilepop4369
10 жыл бұрын
Congratulations! Wonderful video. 73 de VA6POP
@sparkie119
10 жыл бұрын
@Zerarita-ifuseekay.
@MrToonfish
12 жыл бұрын
That TS-590S makes me think that Kenwood missed completely the look / design of their new line of radios, and the newcomer TS-990S is not better at all. I think the design department missed their goal with those new rigs. I am convinced that performance and numbers are nothing without a good looking front face. 73, ON6CV. I miss my TS-870S however, if you have one, keep it like a treasure !
@ThunderChief41
11 жыл бұрын
Of course they sound the same with a reset. Now start using the RX features of the 7700 and it will sound awesome compared to the Kenwood. Both radios are awesome for their respective price ranges. But comparing the two radios wide open is not a head to head performance comparison. I would not knock either radio, but if you want the 7700 you better learn how to use all the bells and whistles otherwise its a waste of money. Casual operator, get TS-590S. Contesters get 7700 (7600 is better value)
@zerarita
11 жыл бұрын
Foxtrot uniform Charlie kilo
@ralph9987
10 жыл бұрын
its like comparing a S-class mercedes with a fiat! what is the point?
@1bntcr001
12 жыл бұрын
I just don't understand how all these older guys can afford 7 thousand dollar radios, the small increase in quality is not worth the price to me, though i would also like to say, that icom sure does look nice.
@user-zj3zq3hh3q
5 жыл бұрын
хороший айком, и валкодер пока не разболтанный.ну ничего, через пару месяцев люфтить начнет не по детски.
@iw5dsz
9 жыл бұрын
il 7700 è avanti!
@macattach8510
7 жыл бұрын
7700 destroys the 590. not even a contest. wow
@sunsetcroatia
9 жыл бұрын
icom ic-7700 is better sound rig...
@rjy8960
10 жыл бұрын
Pointless........
@raymo9980
10 жыл бұрын
For gods sake stop talking over the test!!! we can see which radio is selected. And like others have said, use a common speaker or at least two identical speakers..... common sense.
@hs0zcw
9 жыл бұрын
Worthless comparison, superficial and with not enough info to make any conclusions from this video.
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