OMG I hope like hell that they do something before the final production version comes out because this is garbage for the money. I have had this in my cart 3 different times and never pulled the trigger, even with 300 dollar off, and I'm glad I didn't. Come on Lyric, I'm really wanting to buy this from you, but this is the second review video that's giving me pause. I have 3000 dollars burning a whole in my pocket, but not for what I'm seeing.
@CarbonAloha
Жыл бұрын
Onyx rcr’s are $1000 dollars off rn for Black Friday, look into it, much better bike for $200 more. This lyric for $4500 (with two batteries) is not good lmao
@ericcariaga7052
Жыл бұрын
Had it in my cart also and never pulled the trigger... Omg the torque starting at the bottom of that hill was pitiful...
@reeseprince8
Жыл бұрын
Just get the super73 it's amazing
@Trillville43
Жыл бұрын
@@ericcariaga7052 they tuned it that way on purpose.
@ericcariaga7052
Жыл бұрын
@@Trillville43 why? Assuming that's true I still don't want a bike with no torque... I'm not interested in that tune.
@danielbuxton2656
3 ай бұрын
Your reviews are always the best ! All the details including price . Keep it up !
@true5790
Жыл бұрын
I want one of these pretty bad Thanks for the review looking forward to some more reviews on this bike before I pull the trigger
@tiagothinks
4 ай бұрын
Did you get it?
@elaizon222
Жыл бұрын
Been patiently waiting for more reviews of this bike. This is an excellent review of an excellent bike
@JuicedJoyrides
Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@anthonysamra7777
Жыл бұрын
You have the best ebike review channel on KZitem! thank you
@jdcmendiola
Жыл бұрын
Since June of 2022 pre production orders I have not seen one owner report on the graffiti, website information on the specs on the graffiti is inconsistent / doesnt match on whats on the bike. I would hold off on this e- moped.
@JuicedJoyrides
Жыл бұрын
Seems many have this same concern
@Nate-ho9tg
Жыл бұрын
Everything is a super73 killer can't we enjoy all the bikes everyone has different taste
@JuicedJoyrides
Жыл бұрын
Haha true
@iankeegan5047
Жыл бұрын
Something that I don't think anyone has noticed, how would one change the belt? Usually bikes with belt drives have a frame that separates a small section to pass the belt through...
@AmpedgenX
Жыл бұрын
It’s a split belt. There is a rivet holding the belt together.
@ashpunting
Жыл бұрын
I'm sure if you owned the bike you could change the specs through the eggridder bluetooth app because I can see there is one on that bike I've got one on my bike as well my friend so I can tailor my bike around the way i ride 😀
@DarthLink1986
Жыл бұрын
What is your other channel??? Awesome review btw this would be a bike I'd like to add to my collection 😁
@moodyfox3108
4 ай бұрын
I'm watching this in 2024, fid they lower the specs from this prototype ? Cause website says 1000 watt nominal and 2300 peak. Numbers you gave were way higher.
@john101090
Жыл бұрын
Did you happen to hear anything from Lyric on when they anticipate to start shipping? Just pulled the trigger on Friday after watching your review but didn’t realize they weren’t even shipping yet. Awesome review!
@JuicedJoyrides
Жыл бұрын
I think very soon, if not already?
@davidwarner6755
Жыл бұрын
I'm in the same boat. I havn't seen any reviews from owners yet. I'm wondering if any production models have been sent? I'm a little concerned because, like you I didn't realize that the bike wasn't yet in full production when I ordered.
@MrCentralDriver
Жыл бұрын
Just had the lyric dropped off to me today. Got 24hours with it 😏 thanks for the review. I think I got it after you
@CBOLES
Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait for a review!
@JuicedJoyrides
Жыл бұрын
Nice! Yes I was told you were the next stop, I liked your take on it, seems we made similar observations. Glad I made it home before the battery ran out! Too bad we didn’t get to run it with dual batteries
@Timbodacious
Жыл бұрын
the peak is 2600 watts for one battery pack. with two battery packs you can output the controllers max 100 amps if you change the settings in the bac 855 controller
@JuicedJoyrides
Жыл бұрын
Wish they would have let us try that setup
@thetechgenie7374
Жыл бұрын
No you can’t as doesn’t have a battery blender and they when with a switch instead. So you have to switch from one to other battery, since both are not connected at same time. The reason they did that is using regenerative braking which isn’t compatible with battery blenders.
@Timbodacious
Жыл бұрын
@@thetechgenie7374 they are saying it peaks at like 4600 watts though and one of those battery packs cant hold anything bigger than like a 45-50a bms. maybe they mean phase amps or its just marketing
@thetechgenie7374
Жыл бұрын
@@Timbodacious The cells are rated for 8 amps each and in a 5p configuration as 17.5 Ah capacity. So they won’t be able to push more then 40 amps continuous max. So likely they are using a 30 amp to 35 amp BMS and likely what going to fit in casing as the regular shark casing it not the jumbo shark. You don’t want to push them at max as you have power cut off issues and Samsung 35e in 5p are good for about 30 to 35 amps continuous as any higher voltage sag becomes a issue and would cut controller out prematurely. Then the controller itself at 52v setup is go up to 2000w? A lot of people including myself used this controller with Bafang builds and tested it to max. It also what Grin technology uses to make his Franken runner controller which is a derivative of this controller. The famous Phaserunner is hitch is also ASI electronics. They good 500w to 2000w pretty much. You can get the 90 amps peak phase current out of them but you need additional heat sinking so won’t overheat and 72v setup with a real 50 amp continuous battery. The dual battery version of the Lyric Graffiti doesn’t have both batteries connected at same time as they decide to go the switch route instead of battery blender/equalizer as they did brake regeneration and not compatible with battery blenders.
@thetechgenie7374
Жыл бұрын
@@Timbodacious They thankfully updated their website before they advertised 2500w nominal continuous and they had that in the battery tech specs as well. Now they change to 2500w motor and took away the nominal continuous part and left the 4700w peak. Before they had controller at 90 amps and put it now at 50 amps. The problem I had was they were advertising it as nominal continuous current everywhere on they site and was how was they we’re marketing it on their website? They did try to argue the reasoning and I explained to them why that was wrong so I guess they finally updated website? Yep have to do a update video on that one. I didn’t see that one.
@realMDizzy
Жыл бұрын
This thing is on Black Friday sale right now I believe for $500 off!
@JuicedJoyrides
Жыл бұрын
Get an extra $100 off that with my code JUICEDJOYRIDES
@CineBrew
Жыл бұрын
I'm currently riding the Hurley big Swell v1 which doesn't have much range and a VERY uncomfortable seat, but it was super cheap. I'm thinking I'll probably sell it and upgrade. I was leaning heavily for the Lyric Graffiti until I saw your Bandit X-trail review. I know it's much more specked out, but I still feel like the Lyric is cooler. It's also more expensive for less of a bike. What are your thoughts comparing the two?
@JuicedJoyrides
Жыл бұрын
I actually agree with your assessment. I mean for the price and full suspension, bandit makes more sense in my opinion. But I heard they made some upgrades to the lyric since I last rode it.
@CineBrew
Жыл бұрын
@@JuicedJoyrides They have. There's also a forthcoming Lyric Graffiti X with full suspension and a much larger battery. I feel like I might just wait for that guy. Your channel is awesome by the way! I used to live in LA and ride my Zero SR everywhere you do reviews.
@jesusserrato1180
8 ай бұрын
Not sure if you went for the upgrade. But if you're going to, the ecplise version of the Lyric Cycle is on sale for $900 off right now 01/20/2024.
@blueberrywaffles4919
4 ай бұрын
Is it okay if i get this bike the real version
@Lucas-nh2mk
Жыл бұрын
3600 💸No way
@JuicedJoyrides
Жыл бұрын
there are other fish in the sea
@theneverman
Жыл бұрын
Great review by the way.
@JuicedJoyrides
Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@Reciorichard64
Жыл бұрын
Will you be reviewing rumble motors Apex ebike, looks like a good competition for this bike?
@JuicedJoyrides
Жыл бұрын
Would love to, I guess they had it at the LA auto show for a peek, but I missed that opportunity. I hope I can try it soon!
@davidwarner6755
Жыл бұрын
Do you have any thoughts on how the Graffiti stacks up against the Spark Bandit?
@JuicedJoyrides
Жыл бұрын
I actually do not, but that does look like an interesting bike that I would love to review if I could get my hands on one
@beej6364
Жыл бұрын
I saw you said that you are 6‘5“. I’m 6‘4“, do you think the bike fits comfortable? Do you think the seat cushion needs to be extend it all the way back?
@JuicedJoyrides
Жыл бұрын
It’ll fit you for cruising, pedaling will be goofy. The length of the seat cushion is fine, I’m not sure if you’re talking about extending it onto that little rack back there, but that’s pretty far back so I’d say no.
@ProPain007
Жыл бұрын
Love your reviews. How would you rate this against the Grizzly?
@JuicedJoyrides
Жыл бұрын
Grizzly does have that rear suspension for a nicer ride, the dual geared hub motors on the grizzly are likely better for 0-10mph and steep hill climbs but the direct drive Lyric is likely better from 10-30 mph acceleration and higher speed performance. Both are sweet, I think the style of the lyric is better personally. Hope this helps!
@mvf136
Жыл бұрын
@@JuicedJoyrides is the motor more quite than the grizzly?
@davidwarner6755
Жыл бұрын
@@JuicedJoyrides I just bought the Grafitti...hope it lives up to the specs. I am worried about not having rear suspension. For some reason, those 3 cross bars on the Grizzly handlebar put me off. It was a tough choice for me between the Graffiti and the Hypersorpion. Top speed, range, rear foor pegs and belt are what sucked me in. I'll have to source mirrors and something to iprove on that rear rack seperatly.
@RandomMotoThings
Жыл бұрын
@@davidwarner6755so how are you liking the grafitti now?
@davidwarner6755
Жыл бұрын
@@RandomMotoThings didn't get it Got a refund instead and purchased a Revv1 and CTY2. The Revv1 has awesome looks but I have/had some problems with mine and find it a little lackluster. Mine tops out at only 31mph and I only weigh 130lbs. Honestly, its been a bit of a pain. However, no probs with the CTY2 but I'm not as keen on the looks. Very fast though (more than I need) and did cost about a grand more.
@sketchessketches1074
Жыл бұрын
how many watts2500 watt?
@JuicedJoyrides
Жыл бұрын
2500 continuous, 4700w for peak bursts of power
@Timbodacious
Жыл бұрын
Was the pedal assist functional on that bike? I saw the magnets on the wheel
@JuicedJoyrides
Жыл бұрын
It wasn’t active on this bike
@eddieramirez435
Жыл бұрын
I was very interested in this bike until now. 37mph with a 2500w motor!? My ariel rider grizzly goes 35mph with a 1000w hub motor if I put on both motors I go 37mph. This bike is trash.
@bryangrant7319
7 ай бұрын
can i jet one in canada
@ceeslee
Жыл бұрын
How tall are you? Up to what speed can the bike be pedaled with the single speed?
@JuicedJoyrides
Жыл бұрын
I'm 6'5" - pedaling feels natural up to about 20 with the stock gear ratio
@brucebeamon5460
Жыл бұрын
I was WAITING ON THE RANGE ~ NEVER GOT IT 😒
@JuicedJoyrides
Жыл бұрын
I gave my assessment of range at the end of the video, I think 20 to 30 miles is a realistic expectation, however, like every other electric bike, it will significantly depend on how much you weigh, and how hard you accelerate and how fast your average speed is. Maintaining a high average speed will kill an electric vehicle battery faster than anything else. I think ultimately the best way to determine the range for an electric bike is to simply look at the white hours of the battery. This is a 48 V system and a 20 amp hour battery. That equates to 960 W hours of energy on a bike that weighs in the neighborhood of 80 pounds or so. So, like I said, 20 to 30 miles as what I would expect, you could certainly get more than less if you ride conservative and pedal more. Hope this helps dude.
@ziggysnorkel
Жыл бұрын
I saw a number of your videos. Lyric graffiti or cty2 or onyx. Can you rank all the ebikes you rode?
@JuicedJoyrides
Жыл бұрын
Best is Rcr, then cty2, then graffiti
@ash0787
Жыл бұрын
looks like its using a QS205 motor ?
@nikp1381
Жыл бұрын
It's fake stats, i bet you. You can't run a 52V battery this high with no loss.
@thetechgenie7374
Жыл бұрын
@@nikp1381 I did videos explaining why it fake specifications.
@JeffersonRah
Жыл бұрын
This or sur ron?
@JuicedJoyrides
Жыл бұрын
Both are very different machines 😆, I choose the Sur Ron personally
@popsiclestick8405
Жыл бұрын
Super 73 is going to go out of business just like radio shack and block buster
@JuicedJoyrides
Жыл бұрын
Seems to be they are going in that direction just using their brand to cash in on all the people who don’t know there’s better products out there at a lower cost
@Jeffrigerator
Жыл бұрын
Do you live in Playa Vista?
@JuicedJoyrides
Жыл бұрын
🤫
@Johnny-zu7po
Жыл бұрын
What bike is that at 2:36 mark
@JuicedJoyrides
Жыл бұрын
Lyric Voodoo, video on my channel
@5AMTV
Жыл бұрын
SUPER73 will always be the #1 bike becaUse its the best looking bike and most people care more aboUt aesthetics than specs.
@gmanhad
Жыл бұрын
Are you crazy. Most ppl buy those ugly lectric bikes. Ppl who spend 3000 dollars care about performance
@sketchessketches1074
Жыл бұрын
yeah but sometimes ugly grows on you with grunt and speed
@JuicedJoyrides
Жыл бұрын
Super73 are polished for sure. I think they underperform for the price. They kinda are, or were, the cool toy to have, but now they’re everywhere and nothing special in my opinion
@BONGE33
Жыл бұрын
Actually it won't "always" be the no 1 bike...if you haven't noticed there are new e bikes coming out every month that blow 73's specs out of the water for a cheaper price. Has super 73 done anything on improvements? Nope. I liked the 73's frame but it's not worth spending 3700 on a bike that only does 31mph and very slow off the start. The e bike market is exploding and 73 is lagging big time.
@JohnBowl14690
Жыл бұрын
This bike has a belt drive. Right off the bat, I'd buy this bike over the super73. Also, no durailleurs makes this bike much more reliable than any chain drive/derailleur system. BTW, 95% of all the moped style ebike are ugly anyway, so who cares?
@Magicstockton
Жыл бұрын
1:05 Jesus. What the fuck is the speed limit?
@JuicedJoyrides
Жыл бұрын
38ish
@soloracer7189
Жыл бұрын
OMG! GTA beach!
@JuicedJoyrides
Жыл бұрын
😂 yes sir
@davidwarner6755
Жыл бұрын
That up the steep hill is a complete fail. These guys are also taking peoples money without actually having bikes to sell. That's not clear on their website. Did you meet these people, what was your impression? I'm guessing the production bikes will never come to fruition and a lot of people may be left empty handed. If this is a con, then reviewers like you are being duped into pushing the scam along.
@JuicedJoyrides
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was not really impressed by the hill, climbing performance, but the speed is pretty decent. And yeah, it does seem like they’re shipping and actual production is behind schedule.
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