Thank you so much, Chris. We inherited my wife's grandmothers rotary phone with a date stamp of 4/56. It's the same phone that my wife used during our long distance romance 37 years ago before we married. The ringer wasn't working and I was bummed until I just had a thought to look on KZitem and - voila! Thanks again for sharing your expert knowledge.
@troll9002
5 ай бұрын
dude that's a sweet story.
@TheVCRTimeMachine
3 жыл бұрын
It cracks me up that people who use smart phones are desperately replacing them every two years with another one that costs over $1000, but I and many people I know are still literally using the same rotary phones that were in our grandparents houses 50 years ago or more.
@machdaddy6451
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude! I struggled with this for a while, watching the wrong KZitem videos. Finally I found your video, which is concise and correct. Also thanks for explaining things about the old phone system. This dial phone brought back childhood memories of racing my sisters to answer the phone. Thumbs up!
@troll9002
5 ай бұрын
i love rotary phones so much! thankyou for this video it is the easiest one to follow. i'm going to do this tomorrow i wanna hear my girls ring too!
@Countercommie
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to you and your clear video, I finally have my childhood phone ringing again. It's like music to my ears! I am very grateful, sir.
@zix-111
3 жыл бұрын
My son and I redid our phone based on your video. Worked perfectly!
@thebobsquadmob
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother for showing this! Much appreciated! Next is how to make it so that one can dial out on the old phones.
@clarkinthedark1
2 жыл бұрын
My local library had touch tone phones that looked similar to the rotary phone shape. When they rang it was a double ding of the bell, kind of like a doorbell. I vividly remember the line buttons on them were clear but flowed hot pink when in use.
@alison5884
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this - I just made it work on an old 302 which someone had wired for a modular plug ... Now to figure out why the phone won't relinquish the line.
@chrisrichard298
Жыл бұрын
Make sure the ringer is wired through the capacitor. If you’re talking about the dial not breaking the dial tone, your line may not support pulse dialing.
@CallMeMaybePhones
3 ай бұрын
Thanks so much, Chris - this has worked many times for me. But I have one phone right now that looks like it's wired just like yours. But ... when I put the black ringer wire with the green line wire, the phone rings but it won't break dial tone. And ... when I take the black ringer wire off that terminal, the phone dials, but it won't ring. I tried a few other locations for the black wire, but no dice. Maybe it's significant that this ringer is that it has those skinny little wires like in modern line cords - doesn't match the interior of the rest of the phone, so maybe it's a ringer problem? I don't know ... Anyhow, still a super-useful video. Thanks!
@chrisrichard298
3 жыл бұрын
I’m waiting for someone to ask me how I dialed from one phone to another... That is a whole lot more complicated. Let me know if you want to see how I made that work.
@portlandlocalchurch8168
3 жыл бұрын
I'm game for the question please tell me how you were able to do that because I think it would be really great to set my house up with phones to use as intercom systems between all of the rooms the kids and the guests and the family would really enjoy using old rotary phones and antique telephones for that purpose
@chrisrichard298
Жыл бұрын
@@portlandlocalchurch8168 For a simple system like you want for an intercom, my advice is to look online for a used Avaya Partner ACS processor. This one module will give you 3 outside lines and 8 extensions. Programming is fairly straight forward and it works with standard analog phones, rotary and touch tone. Be sure to get at least one system phone, so you can program it. Soon I'll have to make a video on how my system works. It's pretty complicated, involving a computer running linux and asterisk, channel banks, miles of wiring, punch down blocks, and more.
@alec4672
7 ай бұрын
So that's why the phone company connected the yellow to the green wire together in the basement at my grandparents house. Always wondered why as a kid playing around with their phone lines.
@ettorem.g.trainiti6857
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this, this was cool! I ended up shorting the yellow and the green of the line you show at 0:56 and that did it for my old rotary phone.
@caelestii5295
3 жыл бұрын
Great video!! Now I just need to replace the curly cord... Any idea on how that's done, or if it's even possible?
@jimlocke9320
Жыл бұрын
Your phone may have been connected to a party line. In the day, it was common for phone companies to offer a lower price service where 2 customers shared the same phone line and the name given was party line. In one arrangement, one party had their ringer connected across the phone line. The other had their ringer connected between one conductor of the phone line and ground. The phone company equipment could ring each phone independently depending on how ringing voltage was applied. Private lines normally had their ringers connected across the line. So, your phone may have been used on a party line before it was taken out of service. Another situation where a bell may not ring was where customers connected extra phones to their phone line. The charge for a telephone company provided extra phone was about $1 a month. When someone moved, the phone was usually left behind and not retrieved by the phone company until the new resident ordered service. So, many of these phones got stolen and connected as extension telephones. The telephone companies had test equipment which measured the number of ringers connected to each line, without actually ringing the phone. If they found extra ringers, they would send a repairman to make a visit and disconnect the extra phone or phones. Word got around and many people, to avoid detection, disconnected the bells on their unauthorized extension telephones. So, you may run across phones with the bells deliberately disconnected.
@CreationalFunction
Жыл бұрын
I have a working wall mounted rotary phone and it has the same correct wiring as shown in the video, however it still doesn't ring. Is it possible the capacitor is bad?
@chrisrichard298
Жыл бұрын
It's entirely possible, but I've never seen one go bad. Does the armature try to move at all? What is unfortunately more common is one of the ringer coils going open. If it does move or vibrate slightly, did you try adjusting the bias spring? What is the source of dial tone on the phone? Is it connected to a good, old fashioned telephone company phone line, or is it connected to a cable company modem/router/emta device? One of the main problems with these "black boxes" that connect an analog telephone to the internet (besides having no support for rotary dials) is their ringing voltage is abysmal. It's enough to trigger the circuitry in a modern cordless phone, but really not up to the task of hammering a mechanical ringer. Get back to me with some info, and I'm happy to help you sort this out.
@CreationalFunction
Жыл бұрын
@@chrisrichard298 Hi Chris! Thanks for your prompt response! To make things a little easier in describing my issue, I made a video. Here's a link: kzitem.info/news/bejne/o5yvp3h6jWp8m6w If anything else is needed, just let me know. Thanks once again!
@georgiarondos
3 жыл бұрын
It rang, you're brilliant!
@KJ7JHN
2 жыл бұрын
thanks boss. hardwire the line to the terminals? or put a rj11 jack on the back?
@chrisrichard298
2 жыл бұрын
You can buy line cords with a modular plug on the end with spade terminals if you don’t have a cord on the phone already. If you do have a cord, put a cheap modular Jack on the end and use a regular cord from that to the wall
@ezekielchariot
2 жыл бұрын
My western electric is from year 1984, it was already wired as you showed the mod yet it does not ring when a call comes in on my Xlink BT bluetooth unit. I can answer and dial out but it never rings. Is there a way to test the ringer ? EDIT - Found the problem with mine which stopped it ringing, next to the central brass donger ball between the bells there is just to the left a stiff piece of wire that acts against cam positions for varying volume, it limits travel, on mine, the end of the stiff wire was jammed against the underside face of the aluminium cam casting, perhaps it got dropped, anyway once the wire was dragged to the right and to the side of the cam casting, it rang.
@rexjolles
3 жыл бұрын
My dad has this old danish palace phone from the old crank phone days, they were sold dirt cheap out of magazine ads with rotary dial kits, he finally hooked it up, and it doesn't ring, but you can hear people, and they can't hear you. So our home phone is one of those black 80's touch tones from ITT
@chrisrichard298
3 жыл бұрын
With the old crank phones, it wasn’t just a matter of adding a dial kit and it works. The old crank phones were known as local battery phones, where more modern phones are known as common battery. The difference being the phone is powered by a battery on-site, as opposed to modern phones being powered by the line. You would need to make a few changes in the wiring. Inside the phone is an induction coil with several leads on it. Some, but not all, were convertible to common battery by a few simple changes. There should be a diagram inside the phone that tells you how to do it. In local battery, the transmitter is powered by the battery, and that’s why you can’t be heard. If the phone is not convertible, you can substitute a network block from an 80’s phone and rewire the set. Don’t remove the original components, just leave them there. The phone is worth more if the original parts are still with it. Just tuck their wires out of the way and connect the transmitter, receiver, dial, and switch hook to the new donor network. And the ringer, of course. I’ve done this to several phones for people and they worked pretty good.
@rexjolles
3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisrichard298 there's no battery slot or diagram inside, my dad wants to gut our ITT touch tone landline and put that stuff in there somehow. You can look the phone up, danish jydsk telefon
@rolandosaldivar5366
3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! It worked perfectly, very simple!. But for my case i cant hang up the call if they are calling me, what can I do?
@chrisrichard298
3 жыл бұрын
Make sure the other two wires of the ringer are connected to A and K of the network
@drmarkm5693
2 жыл бұрын
On my rotary dial phone it rings, but the duration of the first ring is short (1-2 seconds) and subsequent rings are even shorter (1 second each). Is there a fix for this.
@chrisrichard298
2 жыл бұрын
What is it connected to? It’s rare but sometimes some of the cheaper voip devices just can’t supply enough power to ring the old phones properly. U-Verse is notorious for this, as is some of the smaller magic Jack stuff.
@drmarkm5693
2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisrichard298 it's a refurbished phone. It's plugged directly to wall outlet through a static reduction device.
@beverlytazangel
2 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell this senior how to use my rotary phone by connecting it to my landline computer, please? I have no phone access for I'm unable to use cellphones or push button phones (only a rotary will work for dialing). The landline works less than 5 percent of the time, so it's not an option. Also, due to limited mobility usage of my hands, etc., I'm unable to do searches online (even if I knew what I was looking for). Thank you.
@emreozen5708
2 жыл бұрын
Great video helped so much.thank you.
@ultimatesusan
3 жыл бұрын
Perfection! Just the video I needed. :)
@braveheartlioness
2 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to connect old phone to cell AND have the old phone ring ? Please & thank you!
@alison5884
Жыл бұрын
"cell2jack" can be used to make an old phone sort of like an extension to your cell phone via bluetooth
@HaiTran-eb3ce
3 жыл бұрын
question and need help. how can we pop open the case off, also what type the jack adaptor i need to buy to connect with this old phone? the new plug jack now these day wider than this phone plug in jack. thank you
@chrisrichard298
3 жыл бұрын
On the bottom of the phone are two slotted screws. Loosen them and the housing will come off. As far as a jack: If the phone has the original cord with fork terminals (or a four pin plug that can be removed) use a standard baseboard type of phone jack, mount it on the end of the phone cord, then use a standard modular cord to plug from the jack hanging off the phone cord to the jack on the wall. If the phone does not have a cord, you can buy a replacement phone cord that has a standard modular plug on one end and four spade terminals (forks) on the other end. Just hook up red and green inside the phone and tape up the black and yellow. Secure the cord inside the phone and put the cover back on.
@HaiTran-eb3ce
3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisrichard298 also. Can you make a video or tell us how to remove the cap that has a piece of paper that writes a phone number on it. I see a small pinhole. But can not remove the cap to replace a new phone number. Thank you
@portlandlocalchurch8168
3 жыл бұрын
How cool would it be to put an old school telephone in every room of your house as an intercom system so you could call any other room without any outside connection? Is it possible? How would we set that up?
@ronchatex2867
2 жыл бұрын
Buy a Panasonic KX-TA 308 or larger capacity PBX, used, (eBay) wire it to your house wiring and your done! You can plug in your home phone if you like, but to dial out you must dial "9". The Panasonic system converts the dial pulses to tones, automatically. (you can't hear this process through the phone). It's fun and a practical way to use your old dial phones. And they RING no problem!!
@chrisrichard298
Жыл бұрын
An old Avaya partner ACS would work too
@johnwilhelm9179
3 жыл бұрын
Is there a hack similar to this for old pushbutton phones? I've been unable to get mine to ring using an OBI and a ring voltage booster .
@chrisrichard298
3 жыл бұрын
If you mean a standard 2500 or even the rarer 1500 touchtone phone, it’s exactly the same procedure. Aside from the dial, the inside of the phone is identical to the rotary version.
@iutufis
3 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to do this as well, do you happen to know what points in an rj11 jack that the red and green wire would terminate on? I'm trying to get it hooked up to a bluetooth receiver that needs the jack and the phone didn't come with one
@chrisrichard298
3 жыл бұрын
The center two. If it’s a rotary phone, polarity doesn’t matter, if it’s an older touch tone phone it will, but you can just swap red and green to make it work. If it is rotary, you will almost certainly not be able to make outgoing calls, since most modern gizmos (Bluetooth to landline, voip adapters, and cable company phone adapters -the kind on the back of their routers) won’t support pulse dialing. It should ring without too much trouble and otherwise work fine.
@chrisrichard298
3 жыл бұрын
If you mean what terminals in the phone on the network, it should be L1 and L2, though if someone has messed with it that may not work. Let me know if you need a schematic for the inside of the phone, and what model it is.
@orion1052003
2 жыл бұрын
There's a Joybubbles documentary in the works by Rachel Morrison.
@TechHowden
3 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about how to change the wiring on a model 302
@drfactoid6094
4 жыл бұрын
The line that should be black is red on mine is it the same it is a model 500 phone
@sunny-yl4pr
2 жыл бұрын
Magic Jack rings my old phones. I have pulse to tone converters for the pulse phones.
@LoveAllOpensAndHeals
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing!
@karinatovalino1089
3 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video how to fix the volume. Thank you
@suzz1776
3 жыл бұрын
my phone can ring but cant make a call. how do I make it so I can make a call without having to use my cellphone and bluetooth thing that other videos have said.
@chrisrichard298
3 жыл бұрын
If this is a rotary phone, you may have a provider that doesn’t support pulse dialing. If you have phone service from a cable company or fiber optic service (think fios, uverse, that sort of thing) their equipment doesn’t support rotary phones. You would need a pulse to tone converter. I like this one, mostly because it works unlike a lot of cheap knockoffs. www.oldphoneworks.com/pulse-to-tone-converter.html
@suzz1776
3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisrichard298 thx u. ya we internet phone service. so I'll look Into it.
@chrisrichard298
3 жыл бұрын
@@suzz1776 then the gizmo I linked is what you’ll need or something akin to it. Let me know how it goes.
@jvec9744
4 жыл бұрын
Any similar tricks for the wall telephone #2554 on Fios voip? The phone works fine but does not ring.
@chrisrichard298
4 жыл бұрын
Same rules should apply. The 2554 is just a wall version of a 2500, which is the touch tone version of a 500 (like the one in the video) The 2554 uses a single gong ringer, but I believe it still has a bias spring adjustment somewhere. I'll have to look at one and get back to you. Make sure the wiring is correct, as in nothing is connected to the ground screw on the network. If the phone has a 4 wire ringer, it should be one wire to L1, one wire to L2, one wire to A, and the last to K. These ringers have two coils that are in series with the capacitor (A&K) between them. Red to L1, black to L2, and the other two to A and K (Doesn't matter which). Fios has notoriously low voltages. Ringing voltage is 50-60 volts, bell spec was 90-110. Loop currents around 20ma, bell spec was 23 minimum. I think on hook voltage on fios is ok, but it doesn't affect anything anyway. As for loop current, too low and speech can be distorted, touch tone dials may not work right, phones with LED backlighting may not glow. Too high probably wouldn't affect any old Western Electric phone, but it can also distort speech, burn up modems and burn up line cards in multi-line phone systems. Let me do a little digging and I'll post something about the bias spring in a 2554.
@chrisrichard298
4 жыл бұрын
Lost my train of thought...... If the phone has a two wire ringer, One wire of the ringer goes to L1, the other to A or K. Then a jumper from L2 to A or K (the one the ringer lead is NOT connected to. A and K are the ends of a capacitor used for blocking the DC loop current from going through the ringer coil. Without that capacitor, the phone would act like it's off hook all the time and busy out the line.
@jvec9744
4 жыл бұрын
Chris Richard Thanks Chris for getting back to me. I’ll have to take another look at it. I don’t remember seeing a bias spring, but I’ll recheck. Just trying to get this phone that works otherwise, to ring.
@fcoarrieta9380
3 жыл бұрын
Un sonido fuerte de teléfono antiguo gracias
@nick4005
4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!!
@chrisrichard298
4 жыл бұрын
Nick glad this helped you. If you ever have any questions about old phones or phone stuff, just ask. Maybe I can throw a video together. Haven’t had many ideas so that’s why I haven’t posted anything in a while.
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