Just picked up the same model lathe, and got it turning tonight. Great having videos like this on KZitem to help me get familiar with what I've got!
@RPMechanics
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@jbrunson1949
8 жыл бұрын
wow, this is just what I have been looking for, so much easier than making an angle jig for back side of lathe, and then having to remove cross-slide nut for slide to move freely, I bet I have watched 20 or more videos about this, finally found yours this is GREAT and simple,,, thanks
@RPMechanics
8 жыл бұрын
+jbrunson1949 Thanks for taking a look.
@kreglamirand2637
3 жыл бұрын
That's pretty slick my man. I have a hobby combo mill/lathe with MT3 tapers in everything. I have bit of MT3 tooling but this would sure make it easy to add a bunch more.
@NakedMachinist
8 жыл бұрын
Great idea. I just picked up a new Atlas tabletop horizontal milling machine and this is exactly what I need to hold the gear-cutters for clock making. thanks for sharing.
@RPMechanics
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@gordonagent7037
8 жыл бұрын
Really great video, explanations and shots gave good clarity, well done
@RPMechanics
8 жыл бұрын
+Gordon Agent Thanks for taking a look.
@jeffiscool1805
8 жыл бұрын
That dp vise mounted on a piece of lumber for short stuff on the bandsaw is a great idea. Thanks
@RPMechanics
8 жыл бұрын
+Jeff Iscool Thanks for checking it out.
@dubmona1301
8 жыл бұрын
+RP Mechanics Was thinking the same thing. Thanks from me too.
@ThunderDog
7 жыл бұрын
This a nice little setup, added to my list of things to make.
@RPMechanics
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking a look.
@lodhiautos9761
6 жыл бұрын
Excellent demonstration. Thanks.
@RPMechanics
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@Gronicle1
7 жыл бұрын
Nice, and clear explanation. Good to see the old Atlas 6" (like mine) at work. Regards,
@RPMechanics
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking a look.
@Larry1942Will
6 жыл бұрын
I just went through the process of making a MT adapter for my copy lathe. It was the first time I tried to use a taper attachment. Chinese lathe and attachment. Way too much slack in the system. After much fooling around I got my adapter made & it works well. 1"-8tpi to a 2" shoulder to the large end of a #4 MT, to a 4" long 3/4" shaft that is drilled and taped for a 1/2-13tpi draw bar. Started with a bar of 4130. You did it so much better than the way I went at it.
@RPMechanics
5 жыл бұрын
As long as you get the results you want. I'm far from being a good machinist, I just fumble along and sometimes it turns out ok. Thanks.
@jster1963
9 жыл бұрын
I love your techniques!! Great vid.......
@RPMechanics
9 жыл бұрын
jster1963 Hey Jster, I appreciate you taking a look. Thanks.
@jcknives4162
5 жыл бұрын
Very creative method. I have a few extra tapers, I’ll build one of these and try it out. I also think I’ll color the taper with a sharpie and insert to see if there are any high spots. Might be a great fit right off the bat.
@RPMechanics
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks and good luck.
@robgerrits4097
8 жыл бұрын
Nice Job and well done. Personaly I look for old drillbits with morse taper at carboot sales or so, then cut them to the size I need. Cheap and easy.
@RPMechanics
8 жыл бұрын
+Rob Gerrits Thanks a lot.
@mk6595
5 жыл бұрын
In order for this to work, the taper blank has to be the exact same length as the tool, with the tailstock center being at the exact same location. Nearly impossible to do in practice. Your method will get close to the proper taper angle, but it's not as accurate as other methods.
@jcknives4162
5 жыл бұрын
I saw a video where the machinist used a dial indicator set to zero on the tailstock and when he moved it off center (in your case, your indicator showed zero a tossed the taper) he left his indicator on his tailstock in place so when he was done cutting his taper, he simply readjusted the tailstock to zero on the indicator. Pretty neat idea.
@RPMechanics
5 жыл бұрын
That is a good idea.
@eviltwinx
9 жыл бұрын
Very well thought out process. I lucked out with my lathe- it came with a taper attachment. It needs a good cleaning and de-rusting. If it's too far gone, now I know how to turn a taper without it!
@RPMechanics
9 жыл бұрын
eviltwinx Thanks Eviltwinx. Regardless of the method, I think taper turning can be a part of some very useful projects. I'm looking forward to exploring this further.
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2 жыл бұрын
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@jonascolton1073
2 жыл бұрын
@Wilder Logan flixportal :)
@wilderlogan5879
2 жыл бұрын
@Jonas Colton Thanks, signed up and it seems to work :) I really appreciate it !!
@jonascolton1073
2 жыл бұрын
@Wilder Logan happy to help :)
@tooltimechris7217
4 жыл бұрын
Nice project! Something to remeber for my workshop! 1 thing, please lubricate your bedways! The sound of the tailstock draging over it gave me goosebumbs
@RPMechanics
4 жыл бұрын
I'll do that.
@FrustratedBaboon
6 жыл бұрын
I need to make these for a couple chucks I have lying around. :-) Nice tips..
@RPMechanics
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@steveb936
2 жыл бұрын
Nice, Thanks man
@dinkysworkshop1518
8 жыл бұрын
I own an old South Bend lathe and it baffles me how a taper attachment that originally cost 1/3 of the price of the lathe back when it was new, now costs three times as much.
@RPMechanics
5 жыл бұрын
Tell me about it. Machine tools and accessories can be crazy high.
@MaturePatriot
6 жыл бұрын
Get a drift for removing items from the MT adapter. If you slip with that screwdriver it's gonna hurt. Other than that it was a great video. Very good work by hand on that 6" Craftsman lathe. You are a true MACHINIST!
@RPMechanics
5 жыл бұрын
I'll keep that in mind. I appreciate the comment.
@mikemoore9757
6 жыл бұрын
Good job sir!
@RPMechanics
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jimjakosh2506
5 жыл бұрын
That is a pretty slick way to do it if you don't have a taper shoe. I didn't know you could kick the tailstock that far off center.
@RPMechanics
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@oppanheimer
5 жыл бұрын
Very good.
@johncarruthers5020
8 жыл бұрын
I pop a female centre in the headstock and male centre in the tail (assuming the reference taper has a centre hole) then set the compoud to the known good taper.
@RPMechanics
5 жыл бұрын
That will surely work if you have enough travel in your compound.
@TheFishingHobby
5 жыл бұрын
I like it! Easy enough even I could do it 😂
@RPMechanics
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@BisonWorkshop
9 жыл бұрын
how do you find out where to set the conpound to get the right angle for the tapper you need?
@RPMechanics
9 жыл бұрын
Bison Workshop With this method the cut is made with the carriage so the compound doesn't move. The tailstock offset depends on the length of the work, so the work needs to be the same length as the tool. I chose 5 inches because that's likely to be as long as I will ever need and it gives enough space for the lathe dog.
@craigtate5930
5 жыл бұрын
This is a great idea..I have been making BS #7 tapers with my cross slide...its been a pain to say the least
@RPMechanics
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@timothynewkirk2654
5 жыл бұрын
Does a headstock collet require a draw bar? Newk from Kentucky
@RPMechanics
5 жыл бұрын
Yes they do.
@wykecastlewelding
8 жыл бұрын
This is good common Sence engineering for all to learn from.
@RPMechanics
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking a look.
@lavachemist
6 жыл бұрын
Could you have center drilled the taper while it was still in the head stock, right after you faced it?
@RPMechanics
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, but then you have to think about the accuracy of the tailstock chuck.
@Warpreacher
2 жыл бұрын
Cool cool cool
@jeffiscool1805
6 жыл бұрын
Wow, been a year since I commented on the dp vise trick. I now use one regularly on my saw. Thanks very much again. Regarding your tool. Could you have instead, put a piece of stock in your chuck , faced it and center drilled it. Then put the tip of your dead center in the freshly center drilled hole to support the tip at the chuck instead of cutting the dead center? I'm no expert. Would that work? I need to turn some tapers. Thanks
@RPMechanics
6 жыл бұрын
I don't know, I would say give it a shot and see what works for you. Thanks.
@RPMechanics
5 жыл бұрын
Remember, the length of the tool has to be the same length as the work piece. So all my MT #1's start with a 5 inch piece of stock. But if you have enough travel in your cross slide, it's easier than offsetting the tailstock.
@cdrive5757
3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that the last comment was posted 4 years ago because this is a well done "Shop Practices" video. I'm more than happy to make that stat more current. Your voice seems to indicate that you were young by "Time In Grade" shop standards when you posted it but that fact only impresses me further. You currently have 737 "Likes" and 24 "Dislikes". What the hell there is to dislike about your video is beyond me? I'm going to chalk them up to being morons! The U.S.A was once a nation populated with an abundance of good creative stock like you. Besides being one of the founding Fathers .. Thomas Jefferson was an exceptional "WoodRight" ! Names like "Samuel Morse", "Henry Ford" (think SAE), "Thomas A. Edison" and my favorite in the "OoRah" department - "John (M2-.50Cal) Browning" are to name only a few great hands on, dirty with shop crud under their finger nails, shop guys! You are a microscopic minority (with purpose and skill) surrounded by an ever growing sea of mediocrity that posses neither! Where plastic crap is fastened together with ill fitting "snap together" design!! The only things that snap are your finger nails!!! God bless you for passing along your passions. S. Florida Chris
@RPMechanics
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words.
@bustednuckles2
3 жыл бұрын
I second these sentiments. This is a great instructional video, especially for those of us who don't have full size tool makers lathes.
@34tab
3 жыл бұрын
thanks I am about to make a 3 '" bullnose dead centre for my 10 inch atlas lathes tailstock --
@RPMechanics
3 жыл бұрын
Good luck!
@colsanjaybajpai5747
4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful. But you have a tail stock offset. For those with fixed lateral tail stock they would have to use offset device
@cdrive5757
3 жыл бұрын
On wood lathes adjustable (offset) tail stocks are uncommon but not on machinist lathes. Wakodahatchee Chris
@doright6461
6 жыл бұрын
Cool Video! I've never turned a morse. I'm doing one these days but that's her last name ... . Mine's Kennedy like the box lol. ;- ) Anyway, I've 'felt' tapers from tools that sometimes don't 'stick' well straight from the mfg Co. I felt no play and saw no indicator read of movement or wiggle. Just had to wrap OD taper with paper, insert and spin to clean just to get it to seat at all. I've ground quikie arbors on a spindex or 'whirly jig' for soft honed IDs to wedge on and give a cylindrical grind to .0005 or whatever. But wonder if the hard on hard or perfect ground finish had a bit to do with it when it came to morse tools? This has only happened a couple times in 35 years. Maybe were cheap imports, ground but but really there. Thanks anyway. Thumbs up.
@doright6461
6 жыл бұрын
ps. in frustration to really know if there were nicks or dings I even 'felt around it with an Arkansas stone and all was clean. No I don't polish this stuff with scotch bright like some do. ;- ) Thnx
@RPMechanics
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@stewartfrye
Жыл бұрын
I've got a 618 also
@tangcanada9381
4 жыл бұрын
Not sure I understand how you are able to offset the tailstock ...???
@RPMechanics
4 жыл бұрын
The upper tailstock sets in a groove in the base and can slide forward and back and is adjusted with a screw on each side.
@user-bw4rr4kd9n
7 жыл бұрын
How about making an internal Morse Taper?
@RPMechanics
7 жыл бұрын
I would do it pretty much the same way and finish it with a MT2 reamer.
@paulfallert4104
5 жыл бұрын
Likes=500, now. Do you Loctite the 1/4" pin or just press it together?
@RPMechanics
5 жыл бұрын
You could, but I left mine as just a slide fit. The centers hold them together. Thanks for watching and the 500th.
@1ginner1
5 жыл бұрын
Sorry to be a prophet of doom here , but if you only drilled the holes for your pin I can guarantee that your set-up will be off. If you had rotated your sacrificial set-up 180 degs when you offset the tailstock, you would have got a different reading. Idea was good but try reaming instead, much better fit for the pin.
@tedchambers4381
4 жыл бұрын
time would be better spent making a adjustable live center for the tail stock that way you never have to move the tail stock to cut any taper . :)
@CleaveMountaineering
4 жыл бұрын
good idea, that way you don't have to rezero the tailstock when you go back to non-tapered work.
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