Me: hating Tom Brady Me: realizing why I hate him he's the GOAT
@matthewdowling6549
4 жыл бұрын
At least you cam to your senses
@ktloz2246
3 жыл бұрын
Ya, seems like people hate winners
@wandcamilo3989
3 жыл бұрын
Montana made riskier plays nowadays its just 1-2 option iso ball. 3 pointer or layup and career maximizing. Brady grew up a Montana fan. I win this debate.
@paramagan
3 жыл бұрын
Jealousy..bro
@poizie85g83
3 жыл бұрын
@@wandcamilo3989 If you have to proclaim "I win this debate" then you definitely didn't win the debate.
@burner2235
5 жыл бұрын
When people say 4 for 4 Is better than 6 for 9 I cringe because conference championships matter 2nd most
@Asmov
5 жыл бұрын
Well it's not 4 for 4, it's 4 for 12, unless you'd wanna argue Montana threw 8 seasons from the start. Personally I think the getting to 9 SB's versus getting to 4 SB's is more impressive.
@jamiemcdonald4279
5 жыл бұрын
@@Asmov i agree. Thays the stupidest argument. That means Montana had more conference championship losses or more one and dones. Brady > Montana.
@emma12345678961
5 жыл бұрын
@@jamiemcdonald4279 : if I remember correctly: JM has more one-and-dones than Brady has lost SBs...
@rickjames4864
5 жыл бұрын
What does Brady have to say about this?Nothing not because he's humble but because he knows how many times he was given the win...What a coincidence Tom Brady wins his first Superbowl & sfart there so called "dynasty" few months after 9-11.A second string QB and a coach who had losing records his first 6 seasons,& they do this against the greatest show on turf.The NFL is as fake as pro weestling.Did everyone forget about "Deflate Gate" & stealing playboooks.Saying Tom Brady is the greatest QB of all time is like saying Trump is the best President of all time
@emma12345678961
5 жыл бұрын
@@rickjames4864 : stealing playbooks? You mean stealing signals! That dreadfully thing they did when they were filming 40y of the wrong spot. Awefull doing, just awefull! And they even admitted they made a mistake and got punished for it! Awefull! President Bush should have made them re-locate to College Station and made them the Texas Patriots!
@Trackrace29582
3 жыл бұрын
Brady has 7 rings with two teams now. It’s not even a question. He broke his own nfl record.
@penoyer79
2 жыл бұрын
Joe Montana retired at age 38 a broken athlete with 4 superbowl rings. how many rings did brady have at 38? 4. only difference is the era. Brady never accomplishes what he has without rule changes galore and evolutions in healthy and fitness that have allowed him to basically double up on longevity thus creating more superbowl opportunities.
@allstargaming5270
2 жыл бұрын
here's the part where I embarrass you. Because obviously you don't watch much football. The New England patriots are known cheats especially when they play at home, Foxboro, did you know that? Nope. It's funny to read the comments of patriots fans, it's exactly what you would expect to read. Watch this - documents most of the patriots tactics on cheating - they're filled with scandals. Anyone who's played against them know this. My uncle worked in their organization for 5 years under the Bill B. Administration and he's always known that they're being fined/suspended players for cheating. ESPN has commonly talked about it... where you been? This is what makes Montana the GOAT. No scandals. His rings and stats are real and earned, not by cheating. Montana played in a real era, tough era, with the best defenses of all time. 85 bears, 86 giants, redskins etc. Those defenses had no salary cap to stack against Montana. The rules were different, back then the QB got smeared every play, hit hard, and DBs could fight for INTs. Todays era is soft and easy, it's called the passer friendly era, if you study football then you already know this. That's why todays QBs stats are inflated. So the argument that Brady's stats are higher is irrelevant due to all this. If he played back then, he wouldn't last as long and his stats would be lower. Not to mention the cheating. Watch here: kzitem.info/news/bejne/qK2Frmqaa5hql5g
@Biden_Bluh
2 жыл бұрын
@@penoyer79 You don't think the rules benefited Montana as well? No salary cap for free agency. This allowed them to stack there team's more, so they could win more. Brady has been able to play longer, but it's more difficult to win a SB than ever - so your point is mute.
@penoyer79
2 жыл бұрын
@@Biden_Bluh ?? Harder? Montana played concurrent with 2 other dynasties in a stacked nfc. And it's not like the 49ers stacked glitzy free agent super teams with bottomless pockets. 49ers drafted all their players. . They won with homegrown teams.
@penoyer79
2 жыл бұрын
@@Biden_Bluh and lets not kid ourselves, the salary "cap" is an illusion for the teams that know what they're doing.
@jacksonpope3955
4 жыл бұрын
Don't let this distract you from what matters. The Avengers blew a 5-1 stone lead.
@VonAllenSports
4 жыл бұрын
Congrats, one of the best comments, LOL :) Nicely done.
@rickyrichreacts9667
4 жыл бұрын
Yawn. Try again.
@justinwinningham4892
2 жыл бұрын
Daaaaaahhhh?????
@AK_804
6 ай бұрын
what does that mean?
@billy38010
2 жыл бұрын
It's, Montana,....Forever and Ever, Amen!
@Atpost334
8 ай бұрын
Montana took over a really good Chiefs team first year there and was a dud, Brady took a really good Bucs team his first year there and won another Super Bowl (during Covid which makes it even more impressive). Ridiculous to keep arguing this and burnt out 9ers fans are the only ones that continue to debate it. The facts are with Brady. Simple math 7 is more than 4. Brady did it when it counted more times. Definition of GOAT.
@lolajay1768
3 жыл бұрын
I swear everytime they piss Brady off he just wins another ring like it's nothing. This 7th one was to stick it to Belichick for pushing him out
@d-ray4418
Жыл бұрын
Yeah,with the refs giving him high fives,cry baby.
@TT-yr8ms
7 ай бұрын
Joe and MJ are the best for me.
@blazedoutlaw6633
3 жыл бұрын
At this point if you even think this is an argument you’re just an old head living in the past or a hater. Brady is the GOAT.
@edwardferrell1740
3 жыл бұрын
He aint SHIT compared to Montana Hell Brees still has a winning record vs Brady Heres another 1 for ya Kosar was 1 of the few to spank Montanas ass
@johnre1514
3 жыл бұрын
@@edwardferrell1740 not kosar. What are you talking about.
@blazedoutlaw6633
3 жыл бұрын
@@edwardferrell1740 The drugs, stop doing them.
@texas3284
5 жыл бұрын
I will never understand why people continuously reward Montana for missing the super bowl! By this logic, finishing runner up makes you worse than finishing 3rd or 4th! Tom is the goat! End of discussion!
@charlesstuart7290
5 жыл бұрын
Its a little like saying a baseball manager who was two for two in World Series had a better record than someone who won six pennants and three World Series. Not getting to the Championship game is not a plus,
@calebbaker2271
5 жыл бұрын
Tom Brady
@LukeR.5117
5 жыл бұрын
That's a low I.Q. tactic, sadly. When it comes to championships, volume supercedes efficiency. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a failure.
@o2setup
5 жыл бұрын
@@LukeR.5117 I don't think that they are a failure I think that they don't know shit from silver, therefore, making them an idiot.
@patrickl9345
5 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@bt3913
3 жыл бұрын
This debate is over.... Brady is the undeniable GOAT
@allstargaming5270
2 жыл бұрын
here's the part where I embarrass you. Because obviously you don't watch much football. The New England patriots are known cheats especially when they play at home, Foxboro, did you know that? Nope. It's funny to read the comments of patriots fans, it's exactly what you would expect to read. Watch this - documents most of the patriots tactics on cheating - they're filled with scandals. Anyone who's played against them know this. My uncle worked in their organization for 5 years under the Bill B. Administration and he's always known that they're being fined/suspended players for cheating. ESPN has commonly talked about it... where you been? This is what makes Montana the GOAT. No scandals. His rings and stats are real and earned, not by cheating. Montana played in a real era, tough era, with the best defenses of all time. 85 bears, 86 giants, redskins etc. Those defenses had no salary cap to stack against Montana. The rules were different, back then the QB got smeared every play, hit hard, and DBs could fight for INTs. Todays era is soft and easy, it's called the passer friendly era, if you study football then you already know this. That's why todays QBs stats are inflated. So the argument that Brady's stats are higher is irrelevant due to all this. If he played back then, he wouldn't last as long and his stats would be lower. Not to mention the cheating. Watch here: kzitem.info/news/bejne/qK2Frmqaa5hql5g
@jagartharn6361
4 жыл бұрын
Before Tom Brady won 4 everyone said Joe Montana was the greatest because rings. Tom Brady gets 5 now everyone makes the "its a team game" argument. Notice how people who argue for a qb over Brady cant really defend their position for xyz qb being better and their whole argument relies on knocking Brady.
@matthewdowling6549
3 жыл бұрын
Like Von Allen said/says, "They move the goalposts"
@Biden_Bluh
2 жыл бұрын
Of course they do - they always do.
@goalscorerlajon
Жыл бұрын
Brady and the Patriots CHEATED. FACTS!
@Atpost334
8 ай бұрын
Exactly, change everything to fit their narrative. Not what is, but what they want it to be. Beyond their original teams, Montana took over a really good Chiefs team his first year there and was a dud, Brady took a really good Bucs team his first year there and won another Super Bowl (during Covid which makes it even more impressive). Ridiculous to keep arguing this and burnt out 9ers fans are the only ones that continue to debate it. The facts are with Brady. Simple math 7 is more than 4. Brady did it when it counted more times. Definition of GOAT.
@tomquinn607
3 жыл бұрын
The argument is over. Tom Brady has surpassed every quarterback in every category. Tom is the G.O.A.T. and anyone arguing otherwise has an argument that ignores reality. Excellent analysis.
@penoyer79
2 жыл бұрын
the only different between the 2 is career longevity due to the era they played in and the progression in player safety, QB protection, health and nutrition so on and so forth which in turn enabled brady to have 2 careers in 1 compared to montana. montana retired with 4 rings at 37 a broken athlete. how many rings did brady have at 37? 4. brady never makes it to 40 and never has the 2nd half of his career without all the help he's gotten.
@tufstuff2586
Жыл бұрын
@@penoyer79 brady played in the 2000s which was more like the old football than the new crapy version they play today.
@jorv1971
3 жыл бұрын
And here we are in 2021, at age 43 and TB12 has 7 Superbowl Championships
@bitcoincash2025
5 жыл бұрын
Montana i wanted him to be G.O.A.T for decades he had the title nobody was even close but then Brady happened :/
@Morbian13
5 жыл бұрын
Statisticly speaking Brady surpassed Montana, but I still prefer Joe Cool over Brady. IMO Brady's time is about up, and there's a new sheriff in town, his number is 15.
@steveTGO
4 жыл бұрын
@@Morbian13 - I give you props for being honest, it's ok to like who you want to like, I just can't stand it when people argue about statistics that are a matter of fact
@Morbian13
4 жыл бұрын
@@steveTGO personally I can't stand Tom Brady or the Patriots, knowing that there is a guy who has the potential to overcome T.B. statistically even with his extended stay in the NFL just fills me with enjoyment and the fact that Patrick Mahomes is such a much cooler guy than Brady.
@ConstitutionalRepublic00
4 жыл бұрын
@@Morbian13 nobody is respected more than TB12. Longtime rival and once teammate, James Harrison, explains it perfectly.
@Morbian13
4 жыл бұрын
@@ConstitutionalRepublic00 Im still not a fan.
@davidsabillon5182
5 жыл бұрын
This is the definitive video on this subject. Well done my friend. You killed it 👍
@VonAllenSports
5 жыл бұрын
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@davidsabillon5182
5 жыл бұрын
@@VonAllenSportsI'll subscribe, like and comment your videos so this video gets seen. Your video was simply too good not to. Keep up the great work 👍
@brandonguzman2757
5 жыл бұрын
@@VonAllenSports - this really was excellent work. very well researched and well argued. unfortunately just making it gets us sucked into the vapid, vacuous argument that this whole thing is. "the greatest" arguments, in whatever domain, are not useful to the goal of progress for mankind. I only wish your excellent video would put this particular dismal argument to rest, as it should, but, we know it won't. Kudos to you anyway!
@kingpin22s
3 жыл бұрын
This argument has been dead and buried since the end of Super Bowl LI. Tom has literally just been polishing his already legendary career since then. Mountain is officially insurmountable. At least within our lifetimes.
@ShawnMcKenzie-CP
5 жыл бұрын
Tom Brady's the GOAT. Next episode, water is wet.
@VonAllenSports
5 жыл бұрын
I think you would enjoy this series: kzitem.info/door/PLuc8uuZcexWPK1jptRxJIKfLbCmLeHBhu
@JohnSmith-nj4zq
3 жыл бұрын
Yet, they think Mahomes is the GOAT ignoring Montana and straight up anoint him the GOAT or future GOAT. They were expecting Brady to pass the torch to Mahomes this SB. Instead Brady clobber Mahomes over the head with it and said, "Not on my watch."
@topasioo
3 жыл бұрын
Yeessss!! SURPASS BRADSHAW and MONTANA First. Run mahones Run JPP SUH VITA BARRETT COMING 🏃♀️ 🏃♀️
@trevmac8362
3 жыл бұрын
Forget about passing all those guy's you mentioned (He hasn't even passed Jeff Hostitler or Trent Differ..) I remember back in 2011 when Rodgers won the SB and they said by the year 2020 he will have 6 more... I see a lot of Mahomes in Fraudgers Mahomes 4 INT's and 2 TD's in 2 Super bowls for $650 Million = Pathetic
@user-ik5bm6nw9j
3 жыл бұрын
tom brady is the goat
@tylerbeaudoin3225
4 жыл бұрын
Are you kidding me?! One could make the argument that Brady’s 2nd half of his career was better than Joe’s entire career. No contest. Brady>Montana
@ktloz2246
3 жыл бұрын
That's silly argument since in this case Joe didn't have a 2nd half. Why not compare the yrs it took for both to win 4 super bowls? Joe 9 yrs, Tom 14yrs, that says it all!!
@anthonyhavens3846
3 жыл бұрын
Joe only made.4 don't matter how long it took he was still only good enough to get to 4.
@blazedoutlaw6633
3 жыл бұрын
@@ktloz2246 brady 7 rings, the argument is over. Montana is not better than brady.
@ktloz2246
3 жыл бұрын
@@blazedoutlaw6633 You never know if joe had a second 10 yrs of play time he could have 8 rings. So it's hard to say, since joe only had 10 yrs of playing time. Plus he got his last 2 super bowls after having back surgery in '86. See what i'm saying or u going to be closed minded?
@ktloz2246
3 жыл бұрын
because of his longevity Brady of course is the better, but still u can't compare 20 yrs of play time to 10.
@mattboski2339
Жыл бұрын
Hey. Lets be real. The real GOAT is, Donald Trump!
@jplaya2023
7 ай бұрын
Montana played in a tougher league, tougher conference, against multiole teams in the top 10 all time. Montana is the goat. Rules extended Bradys careers as well as refs and how they protected brady more as a QB
@econarticles
7 ай бұрын
Indeed. Context to any era matters. Brady looked great when players eventually couldn't touch him or hit certain ways.
@ircreg8639
6 ай бұрын
Yep was barley ever touched
@joemagarac405
4 ай бұрын
Bull. The early 2000s had the same rules but with bigger and faster players. The rules were changed starting in 2006 to benefit Manning, because the Patriots were beating the crap out of him. The real difference is that Montana played in the pre-salary cap era, where wealthier teams like the 49ers could put together super teams like the 84 and 89 Niners, which are top to bottom some of the best constructed teams of all time.
@ricolives1166
Жыл бұрын
I understand this video is from 2019 almost 4 years ago but the debate is over now lol
@Albut99
4 жыл бұрын
"Walsh's book is considered the coaches bible" Rex Ryan: I've read it. Me: Did you really though?
@VonAllenSports
4 жыл бұрын
RIGHT? LOL
@apolloburning8062
4 жыл бұрын
Reading is one thing, comprehension, implementation and personal leadership skills are the other half of that scale.
@shinglesshingles
5 жыл бұрын
I'm a Colts fan and I loved every second of this shit. Brady the G.O.A.T even tho a part me is pissed at even having to say that
@VonAllenSports
5 жыл бұрын
respect
@jacksfather
5 жыл бұрын
Peyton is a very close 3rd, and the greatest game manager. Calling his own plays constantly at the line, he was the best ever at that part of the game, bar none.
@calebbaker2271
5 жыл бұрын
Brady is the goat
@systemengineer5517
5 жыл бұрын
Deflategate
@emma12345678961
5 жыл бұрын
@@systemengineer5517 : Stick'um!
@jmccarthy40
5 жыл бұрын
The most in depth comprehensive Brady vs Montana video EVER. Covers everything. Stats Rings Strength of team/opponents Toughness Eras Etc, etc If you didn't already guess, Brady is OBVIOUSLY the Goat. And it's not close.
@jmccarthy40
5 жыл бұрын
Subscribed
@VonAllenSports
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you James so much! We have other Brady content on our channel as well, a series called "The Brady Hate Saga" I hope you subscribe! :)
@cormel6895
5 жыл бұрын
I’d definitely go with Montana. He basically only played approximately 8 starting seasons and won 4 championships in one decade. He also has the highest Passer Rating in SB & much higher playoff ratings than Brady...even if you go by single season campaigns Montana still easily wins this.
@jmccarthy40
5 жыл бұрын
If you actually watched the video and you are still saying Montana then it's not because he's better, it's because you have a preconceived opinion. I'm guessing those Montana boosters haven't watched the video.
@YogGroove
5 жыл бұрын
Brady wouldn't have survived the hits that Montana had to take back in the day. Its like comparing golf to mini golf.
@stinkbandit
5 жыл бұрын
I will now and until the day I keel over point out this video for all TB12 haters. Well edited and narrated and you pointed out and exposed every conceivable angle using hard numbers and facts. Well done my friend!
@ktloz2246
3 жыл бұрын
Why not compare the yrs it took for both to win 4 super bowls? Joe 9 yrs, Tom 14yrs, that says it all!!
@imsodarkimwhite2862
3 жыл бұрын
@@ktloz2246 this isn’t a debate video this is a “why Brady is the goat” video. Heavy bias. Because when people think if Tom they think rings. To the point of the MJ and Lebron, if that’s the case then Bill Russel should be the GOAT because MJ fans ONLY bring up rings. Different era different time, u can’t compare the two because does Tom have more super bowls yes but would Tom survive the 70-80’s no because the NFL protected Brady.
@rowdyrx6109
3 жыл бұрын
Debate is over . #7 SB
@tombradythanos2654
5 жыл бұрын
The greatest victory is comimg back from defeat
@raheemg3764
5 жыл бұрын
GET OFF BRADY'S NUTTZ!! BRADY PLAYED THE JETS BILLS AND DOLPHINS FOR 20YRS! AND YOU TALK ABOUT A SYSTEM PLAYER?! BRADY WOULD BE NONEXISTENT WITHOUT BILL! JOE HAD RICE AND TAYLOR FOR ONLY 2 SB'S! TOM HAD RANDY FOR 2 SEASONS... ACCOMPLISHED NOTHING BUT INDIVIDUAL ACCOLADES! BEATEN BY A WILD CARD TEAM...TWICE...AND A BACK UP. Q.B! NOT ONCE WAS HE RESPONSIBLE FOR A GAME WINNING PLAY IN A SB! HE CAN THANK HIS KICKER FOR THAT SHIT! RUNNING BACK AND DEFENSE! YOU CANT EVEN LOOK AT TOM BRADY WRONG WITHOUT GETTING A 15YD PENALTY! AND JUST THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE TO MAKE A X- FILES CASE IN 2019! AND HERE MONTANA PLAYED HIS LAST GAME IN 94! BEING COMPARED TO A QB THAT'S BEEN INVOLVED IN JUST ABOUT EVERY SCANDAL THERE IS TO TALK ABOUT IN FOOTBALL! PLAYED VERY VANILLA COMPETITION DURING HIS REIGN! LESS THAN COMPETENT COACHING STAFFS! RAVENS, GIANTS, A COUPLE OF SOGGY WET DAYS IN HOT HUMID HASTY MIAMI! NO THREATS! MEANWHILE NFC BEAT EACH OTHER UP YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT! LIMPING INTO SB'S... MONTANA: BEARS GIANTS WASHINGTON SAINTS EAGLES VIKINGS RAMS... THEN YOUR SILLY AZZ HAS THE NERVE TO COMPARE MONTANA'S DURABILITY TO MARINO & ELWAY! REALLY?!! WHEN MONTANA WAS IN THE LEAGUE DAMN NEAR 6 SEASONS EARLIER! AND STILL MANAGED TO EARN 4 SB RINGS BEFORE EITHER OF THEM COULD GET EVEN ONE! TOM BRADY 6'4" AND PLAYS IN AN ERA WHERE DEFENSES ARE FORCED TO WEAR HANDCUFFS, AND WHERE 3 & LONG IS NOTHING MORE THAN A BAILOUT PLAY FOR A PASS INTERFERENCE!! IT DOESN'T TAKE AN EXACT SCIENCE TO FIGURE OUT THAT OFFENSE SELL TICKETS! TOM BRADY, PAYTON MANNING WOULDN'T LAST 10MINS IN JOES ERA OF PLAY! NEITHER WERE ACTIVE ENOUGH NOR POSSESSED THE NEEDED MOBILITY TO EXTEND PLAYS OR PICK UP 1ST DOWNS WITH THEIR LEGS WHEN NECESSARY! JOE WAS 6'00" SWAG! DAMN NEAR BROKE HIS BACK CAME! GOT MVP AND TWO RINGS! JOE MONTANA WAS INVOLVED IN STR8 CLASSIC MATCHUPS! GAMES THAT MEANT SOMETHING EVERY DAMN WEEK! JOE COOL...NEVER LET'EM SEE YOU SWEAT! 24/7! NOT THAT LOUD MOUTH BITCHING AND MOANING COMPLAINING EVERY DAMN PLAY BECAUSE HE GOT BREATH ON! THE PATRIOTS PLAYED A DEFEATED COLTS TEAM...AND TURNED IT INTO SOME DAMN GLAMOUR MATCHUP FOR THE NEXT 20YRS! YOU KNOW WHY?!!! BECAUSE THERE WAS BULLSHIT FOR COMPETITION! THEY TRY TO CONJURE UP MATCHUPS! KNOWING DAMN WELL THE PATRIOTS HAD THEM OUT MATCH! FOR OVER 16 F@%#ING YEARS!! JUST WORTHLESS SCHEDULES! AND A GREAT COACHING STAFF! SHIT, Matt Cassel went 11-5 in that system...SO MISS WITH THOSE BS STATS AND PERCENTAGES!! JOE MONTANA IS THE DEFINITION OF GREATNESS! AND WITH ALL BRADY'S ACCOMPLISHMENTS & ACCOLADES! YOU STILL HEAR HIS NAME MENTIONED ALONG SIDE THE BREES'S, MANNINGS(BOTH), RODGERS, BIG BEN, NICK FOLES LOL, FLACCO, WILSON! MY POINT IS! JOE MURDERED ALL COMPETITIONS, MATCHUPS, CLASSICS, SHOWDOWNS, SUPERBOWLS!!!!! MONTANA TOOK LEGENDS HEARTS OUR THEIR CHEST!! THE END! NINERS ALL DAY EVERY DAMN DAY!!! #16 THE GOAT!!!
@Hoytshooter
5 жыл бұрын
@@raheemg3764 nobody is reading your nut loving Montana essay lol Brady's the goat deal with it fuck boy lol
@johnhen5629
5 жыл бұрын
@@Hoytshooter i was gone comment that same shit the part I did read in it was sum dumb ass shit only dickriders would say nun us tombrady lovers haven't heard already smh
@Vellisaden0207
5 жыл бұрын
Raheem G dude football is a system game ! All great athletes use systems .
@Hoytshooter
5 жыл бұрын
@@raheemg3764 Joe Montana was the definition of system qb and you want to talk about Brady being one lol dumbass
@matthewdowling6549
4 жыл бұрын
This is the ultimate breakdown. No one has broken it down better than this video.
@luiscoolgamer3509
4 жыл бұрын
He just talk good about Tom Brady
@Chompazulu420
4 жыл бұрын
Lmfaooo thats too funny
@fleabaglane
2 жыл бұрын
Seen other videos on why overrated made more sense
@ABC-48483
4 жыл бұрын
As a complete unbiased person I pick Brady
@VonAllenSports
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting! I hope you subscribed!
@thegoat164
4 жыл бұрын
You're biased, trust me.
@ConstitutionalRepublic00
4 жыл бұрын
@@thegoat164 yeah, because I'm sure you're not biased, 🤣
@VonAllenSports
4 жыл бұрын
@@thegoat164 of course, he's "biased" because he picked Brady. You wouldn't have said that if he picked Joe. But the fact your photo is Joe and you named yourself after Montana, can you not see that you are certifiable man?
@theswimwalkkid3370
5 жыл бұрын
Marino never missed a game due to injury in the 80’s. He dislocated his ring finger in the 1987 preseason but was back on the field by week 1. Week 3 was cancelled because of the players strike and Marino didn’t cross the picket lines until the strike was over.
@moonytheloony6516
3 жыл бұрын
This is no-longer an argument anymore. And it really should be Bradshaw/Montana vs Brady. They disrespect Bradshaw way too much. Here’s why they shouldn’t... Terry Bradshaw remains the ONLY QB to win not just 4 Super Bowls in 6 seasons (Brady has won 4 in the last 7 seasons) but he’s also the only QB to win back-to-back Super Bowls...twice. That’s huge. Brady has yet to do that and he’s played in a record 10 Super Bowls, which proves just how unique of feat Bradshaw’s run was then, and certainly now. Having said all of that, I rank Tom Brady as the Greatest NFL player of all time. He’s the best QB I’ve ever seen, and we won’t see the likes of him for a very long time. Think about this...Patrick Mahomes will have to win 7 Super Bowls to eclipse Tom Brady’s current total. That’s a lot to expect but possible. It’ll greatly depend on his health, and the strength of the Chiefs organization moving forward. To me Bradshaw represented the standard of having the ultimate team for a decade built solely through the NFL Draft which will never be duplicated again. The ‘70’s Steelers were a Super Bowl Hybrid. Montana represented the ultimate individual on very good teams with his 3 Super Bowl MVP’s and ZERO Super Bowl INT’s, which remains extremely remarkable. He’s the style-points QB with results to go with it. He’s Joe Cool. The 49ers represent how an organization can change, innovate, win and demonstrate it can also be done with trades, free agency, and even coaching and QB changes. They weathered change to absolute perfection and that made a difference with Montana soon after; QB Steve Young. What leveled-up Tom Brady to GOAT status was his commitment to personal excellence regarding longevity (via a Jordan-esque razor focus regarding the art of winning) complimented by a very focused organization that was hell-bent on dominating their specific division, their specific conference, and the league itself for nearly 20 years and 9 Super Bowl appearances. Brady’s engineered 34-28 OT Super Bowl victory over the reeling Falcons will not only go down as the gold standard of playing 60+ minute football, but it remains, in my opinion as the greatest Super Bowl of all-time. The general rule was that teams getting destroyed in Super Bowls early-on stay destroyed/beaten when it’s over. Not any more. Tom Brady winning it all in Tampa Bay removed any and all remaining and severely flawed arguments, void of any critical thinking, that he’s nothing more than a push-button QB in New England. He’s now succeeded with two teams, and as ESPN’s Chris Berman always says: “once is coincidence; two is a trend.” He’s right and Brady is the GOAT.
@trevmac8362
3 жыл бұрын
Ever been in a shanty Irish home in North Chicago? My dad is the biggest Steeler and Bradshaw fan ever *Jack Lambert* is his all time favorite player. Now even my dad admits Brady is the greatest QB ever (And trust me if you argued with him before about that you just might get a beer bottle over your head) And we are total College Football & Pro football literates.. If my dad admits it it's to an absolute 100% certainty it's a fact *UNDISPUTED*
@moonytheloony6516
3 жыл бұрын
@@trevmac8362 Nope. I had plenty of the shanty Irish homes to visit in southwest Chicago and the head of the household usually worked for the city in some capacity. I once told a native Pittsburgher that I thought of his city and Chicago as rather similar regarding culture. He agreed. In my experience if an average Bears fan had a AFC team they liked, it was usually Pittsburgh for some reason. I watched Pittsburgh because they were usually on NBC every Sunday and had at least 2-3 MNF games which is how I became an immediate fan when they won Super Bowl XIV. So you’re Dad liked Lambert? Well who could blame him? I grew up with friends who idolized both Jack’s (Lambert & Ham) largely because we were too young to ever see Duck Butkus play and Mike Singletary was merely a a unknown rookie who would later grab our undivided attention all the way to Canton. Lambert was something else to watch play. I can still picture his legs running in place, like pistons in an engine, before the snap. Was is it with Kent State and Steeler linebackers? First Lambert, then eventually James Harrison…crazy. Still though the LB group I liked the best was Lloyd, Kirkland, Brown and of course Kevin Greene. They should have won that Super Bowl in Tempe, AZ. Only Super Bowl, to this day, in which I walked away very angry, but that’s a story for another day.
@trevmac8362
3 жыл бұрын
@@moonytheloony6516 Cool story and you are accurate about the Irish living in the Southwest Chi Town because that's where 90% (including a lot of my family members lived) we were the rare one's who lived around the Lincoln Park area.. And yes pretty much all my family worked for the City - firemen and police (My dad was a Cop) and the rest all worked for the railroad.. you mentioned Singletary (FUNNY) i just watched A Football life on him yesterday - Landry told him he was too short and slow for the Cowboys to draft him. damn James Harrison running back that 99 yard fumble (or INT , I can't remember) in that Super Bowl game was one of the greatest things i ever saw - Haha he just barely made it from being out of breath And to close I truly believed the reason my dad liked Lambert so much was because Jack was missing his front teeth just like my dad was We are lifetime Pats fans because my dad was childhood friends with *MACK HERRON* R.I.P who set a couple of records with New England and played there a couple of seasons - we lucked in when Brady got there though, although we all knew about him in his final 2 seasons as a Wolverine - Citrus Bowl (99) and Orange Bowl (2000) MVP
@brockbohunicky550
8 ай бұрын
Dude you are cherry picking so bad it isnt even funny.
@VonAllenSports
8 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. Happy to address anything in there. Which parts are you referring to?
@mikesgotniceice
3 жыл бұрын
Anyone still posting about how 4-0 is better than 7-3, or winning 4 super bowls is somehow better than 7, is very likely someone who stormed the capitol and lives in their own reality in their head. They're gone...very very gone....and we can't bring them back to reality. Tom Brady is the GOAT. Stop embarrassing yourselves by trying to say otherwise.
@mja91352
3 жыл бұрын
No debate: 7 rings vs. 4
@lennyjones9753
4 жыл бұрын
There is no debate. Brady has accomplished twice as much with half the talent around him.
@rvrmdude
3 жыл бұрын
Tom beat the past and future contenders for GOAT discussion it's not a debate . It never was.
@bigstar66
3 жыл бұрын
It was in 2014-2016
@allstargaming5270
2 жыл бұрын
He even beat the rules, look up patriots cheating, incase you didn't already know.. espn even covered the patriots dynasty of cheating. Sooo many league suspensions and fines. Can't be the goat when you break the rules.
@matthewdowling6549
2 жыл бұрын
@@allstargaming5270 What about the 49ers cheating in the 80's?
@atozentertainment9828
3 жыл бұрын
And now Tom has made it to the super bowl with an NFC team his first year on the team. Case closed. Tom is the GOAT! Belichek isn't even in the conversation with Tom's success because the Pat's without Tom didn't even make the playoffs
@kingofalldishwashers2929
3 жыл бұрын
I concur.
@dailyselfimprovementredpil4671
3 жыл бұрын
That's team accomplishment that's not who he is as individual he is not the best quarterback to ever play hes just the most accomplished there is a difference learn it
@ravens52raylewis87
3 жыл бұрын
@@dailyselfimprovementredpil4671 so by your own logic Rice isn't the GOAT reciever because he needed someone to throw him the ball....but let's not talk about that....
@sussy8740
3 жыл бұрын
It was on a super team. Not impressive.
@ravens52raylewis87
3 жыл бұрын
@@sussy8740 how do you figure?
@danmosley4387
11 ай бұрын
Brady's 7 rings
@matthewroy9680
4 жыл бұрын
I just shared this video non stop on an undisputed video in the comments section
@VonAllenMusic
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@VonAllenSports
4 жыл бұрын
That's the way to do it!
@bluespirit1156
4 жыл бұрын
VonAllen Sports Are u a pats fan?
@VonAllenSports
4 жыл бұрын
@@bluespirit1156 yes
@bluespirit1156
4 жыл бұрын
VonAllen Sports I can tell by you’re clear bias’s. To be fair if I was a pats fan I would be bias to but you should have someone else do the comparison.
@user-kw7ej6ux2y
5 жыл бұрын
I hate Brady and the Pats, but there's no denying they're the greatest dynasty in the history of the league at this point. The 4-0 thing is a huge reach on the part of people who just don't want to admit it. It doesn't hold water if you think about it for even a second. This question is settled. Move on to Moss v Rice for ample argument fodder.
@orionsghost9511
5 жыл бұрын
The Pats are the greatest Dynasty in history of the NFL, that's not deniable (barring cheating conversations). But that is not one and the same as saying Brady is the greatest of all time. Those are two different statements. I think there's a stronger argument for saying Belicheck is the greatest of all time, than Brady. Afterall, the Pats have kept winning even when Tom has been sidelined: over a 70% winning percentage with Cassel, Brissett and Garappollo. They've kept winning when Gronk has been sidelined, when central talents have been suspended, and so on. Belicheck has been the constant mad man at the heart of it all. And, last I checked, they did not win either the 2001 or 2018 season SB vs the Rams with passing offense - especially this last one. It's a team game, and Tom has been a good teammate with incredible longevity. That does not make him the GOAT. I think that conversation should be about the coach, and comparing Belicheck to the other legendary coaches.
@DMDvideo10
5 жыл бұрын
It's like saying the Florida Marlins 2-0 record is better than the Yankees 27-13 because they haven't lost a World Series...
@johnre1514
5 жыл бұрын
@@DMDvideo10 no its not. Do the math. 27-13 would be equivalent to 20-0. Thats the same ratio that 6-3 is to 4-0. And 20-0 is better than 27-13 since you brought it up.
Why not compare the yrs it took for both to win 4 super bowls? Joe 9 yrs, Tom 14yrs, that says it all!!
@demayoexperience
5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Very well explained. Good job
@perrymaurice2457
5 жыл бұрын
Tom is the Ultimate.... because he's got the mind and the balls to come back versus the Seahawks number one secondary slicing them up in the 4th quarter, but mostly his unbelievable comeback versus Atlanta... 28-3...
@VonAllenSports
5 жыл бұрын
well said Perry!
@savagetv6460
5 жыл бұрын
@@VonAllenSports you're a dishonest hack. You left out the key injuries to the LOB in sb 49. You are a hack
@dailyselfimprovementredpil4671
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah both of those staged games if you believe that was real your stupid
@nunya992
8 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to see how Montana and Marino would fare in such a soft modern league. I don’t think Brady would have survived in the 80s.
@VonAllenSports
8 ай бұрын
Survived? Why? Is his body more fragile than Marinos, Elway's, and Moon's who had 2-decade careers?
@nunya992
8 ай бұрын
@@VonAllenSports yup that’s exactly what I’m saying. That era was just more tough than today’s athletes. They would get up and go back to the huddle, these kids get up and cry for a flag.
@Atpost334
8 ай бұрын
“I don’t think” isn’t factual criteria. Brady is the GOAT
@nunya992
8 ай бұрын
@@Atpost334 whether he is or not, makes no difference to me
@susanrodriquez3757
7 ай бұрын
@@nunya992They literally made the Brady rule because of Tom Brady! His career totally would’ve been shortened if they played in a league where you could literally hit a QB both high and low and literally drop quarterbacks on their heads. Roughing the passer in the 80s had to be super egregious to be called back then. I remember Joe Theisman getting his leg snapped in half on a low hit that was legal back then that ended his career (one of the most brutal injuries I had witnessed). You also had body bag games which would take out multiple quarterbacks in a single game. Today if that happened you’d have the players hitting these quarterbacks being expelled from the league. It was just a different kind of league and era. This argument should be moot. Sure I would say Brady is greater than Montana in a league geared for protecting quarterbacks. I think he is the greatest quarterback given the information we have. However to deny that defenseless receiver penalties didn’t exist which meant quarterbacks couldn’t just throw to their receivers over the middle without consequences where receivers were put out on stretchers by guys like Ronnie Lott leading to a multitude of interceptions and disadvantages in the passing game is just ridiculous. Younger guys who watch the modern NFL seem to have no concept of how much harder it was to throw the ball back then with the old school rules. It really can’t be quantified. Also to say Brady’s career wouldn’t have been shortened when they literally changed rules for him to extend his career is absolutely delusional. Brady is better than Montana. Ok got it. Saying the league today isn’t significantly softer on Quarterbacks and receivers and downplaying it is entirely disrespectful to the men who played before them and had to face defenses that could absolutely smash quarterbacks and receivers with no impunity or consequences. It’s absolutely annoying talking to the younger generation about this.
@johncaparulo4800
5 жыл бұрын
Quite possibly my favorite KZitem video of all time. Great work.
@VonAllenSports
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks John :)
@radar0412
3 жыл бұрын
Montana will always be my favorite QB of all time. But after going to a completely different team in the Buccaneers and winning a Superbowl I can't say that Montana was better than Brady. There Brady fans! HAPPY NOW?!! 😂
@Mudkip2345
3 жыл бұрын
This is my thinking, I could never accept Brady as the goat because I thought he was a system QB, but now that he’s done it in Tampa in indisputable. Montana is #2 though nobody else
@topasioo
3 жыл бұрын
Defend Montana against these runners QBs like mahones that pretend by comparing themselves to Brady they are already better than Montana!
@josephcoleman57
5 жыл бұрын
To me, Tom getting the Pats to the Super Bowl 9 times is more impressive than him winning 6.Tom has started in 17 seasons he's gotten to the SB in more than half of those.. That's just sick
@jyashin
5 жыл бұрын
No, you still have to win. There's a reason the expression "2nd is the first loser" exists. Jim Kelly will forever be remembered for losing 4 straight, as opposed to just how dominant those Bills teams he led were. Just look at LeBron. Going 3-5 doesn't increase his legacy, it just made people believe falsely that the East is weak.
@ramsey5056
5 жыл бұрын
Tom didn’t get the patriots anywhere though his team did. 11 touchdowns total in all his playoffs games. Please.
@chriswolfinger6638
5 жыл бұрын
@@ramsey5056 you have to be the biggest idiot on youtube go back to school you bum
@chriswolfinger6638
5 жыл бұрын
@@ramsey5056 you are clearly a mark sanchez lover
@theaverageguy6418
5 жыл бұрын
jyashin the east has been extremely weak compared to the west until this year and even this year the west has the top 2 teams.
@multiplemike
5 жыл бұрын
One of the best sports documentaries I’ve ever seen and the most comprehensive, informative, and well researched film on this particular subject of Tom Brady v Joe Montana. I admire the hard work and amazing amount of detail you’ve put into this film. As a casual football fan and die hard patriots supporter, I came away feeling like this video deepened my knowledge of this subject and furthered my understanding of the complexity of the game quite a bit from where I was before. Thank you! You put out some of the best sports content on KZitem.
@VonAllenSports
5 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thank you so very much! I truly appreciate what you said. This video took a month to make. So many details from making new stat charts in photoshop to video editing to mixing the audio and of course research. I do this because I love it! I hope you subscribe and share!! :)
@davidsabillon5182
5 жыл бұрын
No seriously. I thought this was ESPN made at first. The amount of time it took to edit all this alone is mind boggling 🤔.
@VonAllenSports
5 жыл бұрын
@@davidsabillon5182 Wow! Thank you so much, I don't know what to say :)
@subscribetopewdiepieunsubs7765
5 жыл бұрын
@@VonAllenSports I have thought the same thing. All your videos are ALWAYS. But you forget to bring up the fsct that Brady is plsyed with Free Agency, Salary Cap, a more competitive league, and less hall of gamers than Montana. And made the SB 9 times in 18 seasons. Montana made it 4 in 12 seasons. 50% for Brady, 33% for Montana. Other than the Cowboys from 1992-1995, who did the 49ers fact from 1981-1998 that is comparable to the Pats.
@seanc.5310
5 жыл бұрын
This is the most comprehensive unbiased coverage on this debate I've ever seen! Including from all of the biggest sports media outlets. 💯
@VonAllenSports
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sean! I hope you subscribe!
@VonAllenSports
5 жыл бұрын
If you like back and forth regarding sports, you should join our group. Lots of debate going on facebook.com/groups/vonallensports
@jackoff1826
5 жыл бұрын
Haha unbiased...there's clearly bias in this video. This whole video is made to prove a point to anoint Brady, he talks about being a Brady fan, obvious bias here.
@seanc.5310
5 жыл бұрын
@@jackoff1826 Facts are unbiased though. I grew up A Montana fan and said for many years he'll be the greatest but that debate has been over for years. Love him or hate Him, any one who understands football knows the debate is long over and Brady is the GOAT.
@jackoff1826
5 жыл бұрын
@@seanc.5310 this is a comparison of the quarterbacks of two generational great head coaches. And today's NFL allows for the good QBs to play into their 40s like it's nothing. If not for the change of the sport, Brady would have been out of his playing days by the time he wins his 5th and 6th. So compare all you want, it's not really ever going to be an even comparison. It's going to be opinionated mostly. Take one of the actually great talent quarterbacks to ever play the game and put him on a team with one of these generational coaches and they'd simply be the greatest ever, and probably by far. But the fact is, the best ever talents at the position didn't have given to them what these two had given to them. The fact that these two played for teams that kept right along winning when they weren't on the field should tell you, this isn't a comparison of the greatest ever to play the sport, but simply the better of the ones that were given the greatest opportunities. Paul Brown, Vince Lombardi, Tom Landry...these were all generational coaches that had a good quarterback that was at one time considered the best ever...was it more the quarterback that made the coach, or more the coach that made the quarterback? I'm going to go with the coaches making the quarterback.
@jasondeday5685
5 жыл бұрын
Montana and Brady are the best of their era's. Today's game is drastically different than what is was in the 80's... almost impossible to compare the 2 QB's. It would be interesting to see how Brady's career would've turned out if he played in the 80s...and Montana in the 2000s. And honestly the way the game keeps changing, in another 20 years average QBs will be throwing for 8000 thousand yards and 70 TDs.
@battlestar1788
4 жыл бұрын
Jason DeDay there is a video on that it’s actually not that much different actually stats show it’s actually more difficult today time than in those time
@johnre1514
4 жыл бұрын
@@battlestar1788 its way easier now. You got like 12 qbs with 100 or more passer rating. Stats are inflated because of all the rule changes. You cant hit a receiver over the middle. You cant play bump and run. You cant it a qb below the knees or above the chest or even land on him when taking him down. Its flag football today.
@crusader4273
3 жыл бұрын
Bingo... Under the rules of the game in tje best days of football, have changed drastically. To put up the numbers of a Peyton Brady and do on, is beyond a reasonable doubt indicating the game has changed in favor of tne quarterback. So to put these guys in a league as the goat...is completely unreasonable.
@crusader4273
3 жыл бұрын
@@johnre1514 Bingo!!! End of that discussion of delusional debate.
@donwoodward7944
5 жыл бұрын
Brady. No contest. Ring #7 awaits.
@VonAllenSports
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting! I hope you subscribe!
@JohnnyD603
3 жыл бұрын
Now that he has 7 and his 7th is with a new team this debate doesn't even matter anymore. Now it's Brady vs Jordan lol who is the goat of all sports??
@giustinoscalise3177
3 жыл бұрын
Im not a fan of Hockey but it's only fair to include Wayne Gretzky in that list. Im not sure what the NHL did to the sports media to piss them of for the longest time but theyre a footnote compared to the 90's. But dude was dominate af.
@The_Handsom_Italian
3 жыл бұрын
Tom Brady proved he wasn't a product of the system when he went to Bruce arians no risk it no biscuit offense and won the superbowl his first season with the team finishing the regular season with 40 TDs 12 interceptions with almost 4700 yards without an off season or chemistry with his recievers. All other QBs in Bruce arians system averaged 20+ interceptions
@xmxh9596
3 жыл бұрын
As a Pats fan I hate that he left but as a Brady fan I am glad he took that risk and proved everyone wrong. The only arguments people had left was the system QB bull shit. Well guess what Brady was the system all along shocker right.
@Kingd21625
8 ай бұрын
It's funny how yall make it seem like tom brady got drafted in 2018 like he didn't play in the 2000s and early 2010s when the rules weren't likecthey are now
@jagartharn6361
8 ай бұрын
Early 2010s was getting more pass crazy but now its gotten beyond ridiculous
@jmccarthy40
5 жыл бұрын
The vast overwhelming majority of NFL players, coaches and media are in agreement. Brady is the GOAT.
@josephsilva8106
4 жыл бұрын
This is old and totally irrelevant. I watched both, I seen who they played with and who they played against. I seen the plays they made and this whole argument was over even before the Atlanta comeback. Now add that plus two more super bowl appearances and another win. His consistency, his toughness, his drive to not only win, but survive the test of time has eclipsed him beyond all others. He IS "THE GOAT" and he still isn't done.
@slick_grimes7121
3 жыл бұрын
And he’s back in the Superbowl again!
@salamipitza
5 жыл бұрын
pls make a video why aaron rodgers doesnt belong in the goat convo
@lukegunning5209
5 жыл бұрын
salamipitza cuz he sucks
@tropicmix8765
5 жыл бұрын
@@lukegunning5209oh yeah, he sucks but he won a super bowl and has the best QBR in nfl history? I think hes only top 10 not goat, but you dont make much sense at all. Hell if winning super bowls means you suck, then Joe Montana and Brady must be TERRIBLE
@lukegunning5209
5 жыл бұрын
Ya just say that Tom Brady 1 goat tho
@Hoytshooter
5 жыл бұрын
@@lukegunning5209 he doesn't suck lol idiot
@jacksfather
5 жыл бұрын
who thinks that Aaron DOES? He's a great QB, no doubt. But he's played against 3 QBs that are better than him in his career.
@kaz9214
Жыл бұрын
No debate here, Tom Brady has 7 rings and did it in the free agency salary cap era which makes it impossible to keep a team together, unlike joe who was able to keep that niner squad together the whole time. Imagine if Brady had Jerry rice 😂
@187btokes
Жыл бұрын
Rings and post season are irrelevant for Tom; his regular season stats beat Montana's full regular+post season stats. The post season is overkill because Brady objectively is the greatest post season QB of all time. Let's not forget Brady over 70% win rate
@187btokes
Жыл бұрын
Also be had the arguably other goat receiver in Moss and look what happened; they BOTH broke the single season TD record on the same exact play! 28 rec and 50 throwing
@kenwashington4337
5 жыл бұрын
With bradys commitment to playing until 45, Brady has an opportunity to create more distance between himself and the greats. Brady is chasing ghosts at this point. He is in uncharted territory.
@jovaniperez8739
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah cause quarterback can't get touched without the defensive getting flagged
@kenwashington4337
5 жыл бұрын
@@jovaniperez8739 the first half of bradys career had little protection for qbs. Rules to protect qbs came into effect in 2005 after Kimo Von Olhoffen shreeded carson palmers knees. Somehow brady haters found a way to blame brady for the qb protection rules by labeling it the Brady rule.
@kenwashington4337
5 жыл бұрын
@@jovaniperez8739 also, brady gets rid of the ball faster than any qb so defenses couldnt hit him even if they wanted to. If you watched this years playoffs, defenses couldnt even sniff Tom because his got the ball out fast as shit.
@deem6077
5 жыл бұрын
Ken Washington Nah he's not chasing ghosts. I think he's trying to put the greatness out of reach for anyone else (the next hotshot qb in high school, middle school, and ones that haven't been born yet). I'm convinced of this because he's competed with every other Qb: from his era and decade, the decade after that, and even now (just spanked up on the new hotshots Mahomes and Goff) and now he's trying to set things out of reach for when he's gone from the game. New Qbs won't even attempt to reach him. That's friggin savage...
@chrispappas3750
5 жыл бұрын
Agreed, he wants records now. He should have stopped when his last contract expired.
@hockeyslade
4 жыл бұрын
I’d take Montana. Tbh. There were not near as many safety rules for QBs back then!
@ConstitutionalRepublic00
4 жыл бұрын
"You should just put skirts on the Quarterbacks."-Jack Lambert 1975
@ConstitutionalRepublic00
4 жыл бұрын
@@TheGourdKing it's funny too, because the, they hit harder argument, holds as much water as my colander.
@zimbabwehardley8840
5 жыл бұрын
Goat period I'm from both eras thought nobody would eclipse Montana then the great tom Brady was born
@LukeR.5117
3 жыл бұрын
Tom Brady has won as many Super Bowls as Joe Montana has started Conference games. Case closed.
@trevmac8362
3 жыл бұрын
Brady 34 Playoff wins Montana 16 54% more tossing cement on that case
@LukeR.5117
3 жыл бұрын
@@trevmac8362 Even better: Brady - 16 playoff wins since turning 37.
@trevmac8362
3 жыл бұрын
@@LukeR.5117 that's beyond crazy
@penoyer79
2 жыл бұрын
yeah lets see him do this 30 years ago with Reggie White pile driving his ass into the astro turf and Leonard Marshall taking his fucking head off.
@thegoat164
2 жыл бұрын
@@LukeR.5117 "Brady - 16 playoff wins since turning 37."...wow I wonder how that happened? Trev Mac said "that's beyond crazy"....I agree, I mean how could something that crazy happen? Come to think of it, I've seen a lot of crazy things happen in the last two decades. Any of you guys have any idea what's going on? I just thought I'd ask because you guys seem pretty knowledgeable?
@arkansasdave459
5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video my friend very informative A+
@brendawalters3728
11 ай бұрын
I get a kick when I hear people say Montana is better than Brady because Montana never lost a SB He also didn't win enough to get there !0 times. So what they are saying is Brady is a worse QB for winning 6 more conference championships than Montana.
@Bu11yMagu1re
11 ай бұрын
Exactly
@TheMegatron673
9 ай бұрын
I'm going at it with someone right now talking about how brady lost twice to the giants and once to the eagles. Then I said how many super bowls has brady won since then?! 😂
@brendawalters3728
9 ай бұрын
you can remind them that against the Eagles Brady had 500 yards passing and in both of the Giant's game Brady had us in the lead, it was the defense that lost those games.@@TheMegatron673
@oreed8
5 жыл бұрын
This debate was over once brady rally a insane comeback vs falcons.. Von Allen this is Great entertaining video you deserve praise and more subscribers.
@VonAllenSports
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Oc!!
@lordsephiroth2029
5 жыл бұрын
It was over in 2011 lol really over in 2014 completely over in 2017 ultimately over in 2018 over period 2019 lol
@jefftaylor4370
5 жыл бұрын
Great comeback, but dot. Act like Brady was perfect. He threw the game away and got a mulligan. Miracle catch. How did that ball pop up like that. Brady threw it into the DBs hands.
@oreed8
5 жыл бұрын
@@jefftaylor4370 every quarterbacks get some type of luck just eli sloppy throw to david catching the ball with his helmet
@boballen1893
5 жыл бұрын
Jeff Taylor the DB was turned and the ball was already on him! Go back and rewatch it!
@dirgeofdementia
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always hated this argument because you can’t even remotely compare the two. Football now has more in common with flag football than what it does compared to the game in previous eras.
@ravens52raylewis87
2 жыл бұрын
You should ask Joe Burrow and Andrew Luck if it's flag football.....
@thegoat164
2 жыл бұрын
@@ravens52raylewis87 You can always find a couple outliers but that doesn't change the FACT the game is soft. Hey, you think the NBA is soft? Ask Kevin Durant about his torn ACL or Klay Thompsons about his torn ACL, etc. Doesn't mean the NBA is a collision sport.
@thegoat164
2 жыл бұрын
@@ravens52raylewis87 I forgot to mention that even Brady himself says the NFL is SOFT, and when a QB says the game is SOFT you can sure bet it's as SOFT as ice-cream on a hot summers day. Brady also said he could play until 55 years old and was dead serious when he said it. There isn't a QB that played in the 80's that would have ever said anything that ridiculous that the NFL is SOFT or that he could play until 55 years old. We all know how soft the game is today, Brady's statements were just the final nail in the coffin or the icing on the cake. If Brady himself can admit it, I'm sure you and VonAllen can certainly do the same. Rodney Harrison told Brady to "Take off the skirt and put on some slacks, toughen up!" Brady said No thank you, I like my skirt, and besides "I could play until 55 years old" with my skirt on! VonAllen and his minions are making a futile attempt at defending 21st century SOFTNESS.
@peteg475
5 жыл бұрын
The complaint about QBs getting hit more in "tougher" 80's makes no sense for other reasons: First, Joe ran the WCO, which is predicated on getting the ball out quicker with a lot of high-percentage throws. Even if the rules meant more QB hits back then, Walsh's offense was designed to mitigate that. Second, the League ran the ball more often in general in the 80s than they do now, which means every time the QB hands the ball off on a running play is another play where the QB doesn't get blasted in the pocket.
@VonAllenSports
5 жыл бұрын
@Pete G, can I use your point in my next video? I will give you props for it!
@peteg475
5 жыл бұрын
@@VonAllenSports Be my guest
@cormel6895
5 жыл бұрын
They did, just bc they passed the ball less doesn’t mean they didn’t get punished when they did pass. Not saying it’s a feasible argument but if you watch the hits Theisman, Montana and Elway used to take you’d see a lot of stuff that would be a penalty marker today.
@peteg475
5 жыл бұрын
@@cormel6895 Watch his most recent vids which debunk what you're saying. it's simple common sense to say that if a QB drops back 50 times, he's putting himself in more danger than if he's playing in the 1970s and only drops back and throws 20 times. It doesn't matter if more questionable hits draw flags now. Because these hits still happen, and a legal sack is still hard-hitting and tough, and can potentially cause injury, and defensive players are bigger and faster now. Joe isn't "tougher" than Brady just because he got hurt playing the position. Somehow Marino and Elway didn't get hurt to the degree that Montana did, despite playing in the same "tough" era. Brady's been beat up in plenty of games over 19 years (notably Super Bowl 42, among many others) and he's never flinched.
@cormel6895
5 жыл бұрын
Pete G I understand what you’re saying but multiple Hall of Famers have co-signed my claim. Receivers used to get clotheslined looking for a pass & QBs used to get hit ways which would draw a flag nowadays. The rule doesn’t make QBs immune to these things but it makes it far less likely because players don’t want to cost their teams an opportunity at winning ball games. Nobody said anything about who’s tougher but if we’re going to talk about toughness they both are fragile as hell, Brady just goes down clean...Montana wasn’t as fortunate. Imo Eli is the toughest QB of the past decade but that doesn’t correlate to wining so it’s not a big factor. But you must admit it’s easier to pass when defenders are reluctant to take you down...and your career lasts much longer.
@julianyarza6945
5 жыл бұрын
Man, im the biggest Brady´s hater (as i´m a Steelers fan) but surely you can see there is no more comparison anymore. Brady´s the GOAT and there is no turning back now, and only the old Gods know how many ring are waiting to land on his other hand fingers
@rifat941
5 жыл бұрын
Respect Bro
@Pats308
5 жыл бұрын
Man, I thought I never see a Steelers fan admitting this. I know I would be a hater too if I was a Steelers and never admit it
@julianyarza6945
5 жыл бұрын
@@Pats308 Well i mean, it hurtsmy guts admiting it. But you cant argue with reality and 3 rings in each hand
@ramsaybolton2979
5 жыл бұрын
Takes a man too do what u just did, serious SERIOUS respect man
@travbrunet6950
4 жыл бұрын
Superbowl appearance percentage of 50% and the most rings is insane
@travbrunet6950
4 жыл бұрын
@Retro Entertainment Channel Did you watch the video Dan Marino and Fran dont meet the criteria
@shabnammohamed9098
7 ай бұрын
Statistically Brady has the upper hand, but Montana was just too cool. He knew how to get out of a sticky situation. He also played during an era where you can hit the QB. Joe all the way for me he had charisma like no other.
@mikewnek5742
5 жыл бұрын
Brady by a mile
@seanwashington7307
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! I've been saying this for years!!! Subscribed immediately.
@VonAllenSports
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Sean! Thank you so much man, I appreciate it! I hope you also click the bell icon to make sure you're always notified when new stuff appears! I'm on a quest to battle fake sports news and with your help, we can win!
@Kadenxe
5 жыл бұрын
brady has 6 rings.. this isn't even a conversation anymore
@jyashin
5 жыл бұрын
It hasn't been a conversation since 28-3. It's just haters by this point.
@boballen1893
5 жыл бұрын
eddiewinehosen idiot beyond all belief! Yeh, you!!
@davidvironet6344
5 жыл бұрын
@eddiewinehosen what do you say about Montana get benched in the playoffs for shit play?
@rrk069
3 жыл бұрын
He has 7 now lol
@candlestick1231
5 күн бұрын
If peak Montana was playing today he'd put up a 130.0 or more regular season passer rating.
@VonAllenSports
3 жыл бұрын
But, but, but Tom Brady never had a blowout win in a Super Bowl like Joe Montana. | Tom gets a blowout win and wins SB MVP "It was all the Tampa Bay defense" | For a blowout to occur, the defense must also play well................... Evidently, Montana played defense.
@jagartharn6361
3 жыл бұрын
Moving the fucking goalposts all the time is what these haters do.
@chriswasicki8132
3 жыл бұрын
Tompa Bay Gronkaneers!!! Holy Sh!t what a game ... Truly epic watched it a couple times ..Tom Brady by far The absolute very best quarterback of all time up to this point and it’s not even close.. great video 👍 ❤️
@naidu12
3 жыл бұрын
Think you should ADD Brady to to the list of "QB is the system" after 7th.
@dianetincher5596
3 жыл бұрын
@@WhiteWolfBitcoin I'm not offended by your comments. I can enjoy watching the greatness of Tom Brady's career and this fairytale like season Tampa Bay had this year and not get upset because someone disagrees with me.
@daftwulli6145
3 жыл бұрын
@@WhiteWolfBitcoin I enjoy dumb haters like you, and how tom shuts them up every single time. But it is relaly funny to what lengths you folks go, if anything you can blame BB for spygate and not brady, as for deflategate he was proven innocent in court, those balls where nor deflated, but yea keep ignoring facts so you can keep hating.
@mattesyl33
3 жыл бұрын
A bad year for Brady is NOT WINNING THE SUPER BOWL😱😂🤣😂🤣😅OH!!!!
@rickjames4786
3 жыл бұрын
A bad year for joe montana was not winning a superbowl... 4 rings in 9 years
@LukeR.5117
3 жыл бұрын
@@rickjames4786 Brady won 3 out of 4 at the start of his career, then proceeded to win 4 out of 7 at the end. He might capture another for all we know. Just because Montana didn't play as long in SF doesn't mean we can project his career based on those first 9 seasons.
@mikebriggs1234
3 жыл бұрын
7 rings no debate or discussion needed..
@johnharris6655
3 жыл бұрын
3 losses should be 5.
@mikebriggs1234
3 жыл бұрын
@@johnharris6655 with the best system ever and the best offensive weapons ever joes only played in 4 Super Bowls Hahaha 😂
@johnharris6655
3 жыл бұрын
@@mikebriggs1234 And with an undefeated team Tom got his ass kicked by a 10-6 Giants team and then the 9-7 Giants again. Joe is Undefeated in Superbowls, so is Bradshaw. By the way the NFL took two Super Bowls from Joe in 1983 and 1990.
@mikebriggs1234
3 жыл бұрын
@@johnharris6655 How many times did joe not make it to the nfc championship game?🤔
@johnharris6655
3 жыл бұрын
@@mikebriggs1234 How many times did Brady lose a Super Bowl. What is your point.
@bluespirit1156
4 жыл бұрын
My top five are 1. Montana 2. Manning 3. Marino 4. Brady 5. Young
@bluespirit1156
4 жыл бұрын
See It 2wice bro Montana is the GOAT he was the best at reading the defense. Threw damn near perfect spirals that would land just were he wanted and he had decent wheels.
@bluespirit1156
4 жыл бұрын
See It 2wice go watch a Montana game then tell me he was less accurate then Brady. Brady is accurate but not as Montana. Also Brady is in a easier division. AFC is far easier than nfc.
@bluespirit1156
4 жыл бұрын
See It 2wice Montana has to play Marino, elway, and young. He beat them all.
@bluespirit1156
4 жыл бұрын
Oliver McCall you’re right because brees sometimes makes bad reads. While Montana always made good reads
@bluespirit1156
4 жыл бұрын
See It 2wice lol your funny if u think any are even close to elway, Marino, and young
@cutty-sark
Жыл бұрын
Let’s go by decade: 60s - Bart Star Packards 70s - Bradshaw 80s - Montana 90s - Aikman 2000s - Brady 2010 - Brady 2020 - Brady
@187btokes
Жыл бұрын
@@Ace10098 if you break Brady's career in half he still objectively makes the HOF in the first ballot both times. His regular season stats beat Montana even if you compare it to Joe's regular AND post season. Shits wild.
@wakeuppeople7327
Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget Steve Young. He was great too
@tonj02
Жыл бұрын
Actually favre or young take the 90’s, Manning gets the 2000’s, Rodgers gets the 2010’s, and it looks like Allen will take the 2020’s
@shattadawes
Жыл бұрын
Micheal Sark nuff said ✊🏿
@ChillHandle12
Жыл бұрын
50s: Graham 60s: Starr 70s: Staubach 80s: Montana 90s: Favre 2000s: P. Manning 2010s: Brady/Rodgers 2020s: Mahomes
@l.o.r410
5 жыл бұрын
God bless you buddy 🙏🏼 Grateful for your work. Keep it up!
@timeskill7736
3 жыл бұрын
It’s not even a debate anymore
@palereaper
3 жыл бұрын
Right? six rings most ever
@Zurhtex
3 жыл бұрын
Arguing with a Brady hater is equivalent to arguing with someone who is drunk...
@penoyer79
2 жыл бұрын
I dont hate brady, but he's never accomplishing 7 superbowls and playing into his mid 40s during the era Montana played in. he'd have been beaten into retirement before 40 just like Montana was.
@Zurhtex
2 жыл бұрын
@@penoyer79 Yeah I won’t argue with that
@Zurhtex
2 жыл бұрын
@@penoyer79 Still takes a lot of work to play into your mid 40’s in any era, but yes back then was just way to physical
@penoyer79
2 жыл бұрын
@@Zurhtex this debate is much closer than people think when you take away Brady's career longevity thanks to modern era changes to the sport and to health/fitness.
@thegoat164
2 жыл бұрын
Arguing with a fact denier is equivalent to arguing with someone who is brain dead.
@jagartharn6361
4 жыл бұрын
I honestly think that most Brady haters deep inside their souls know that Brady is the greatest but are too bitter at him kicking their favorite teams ass over and over again to admit it that they come up with billions of excuses for why he has been so inexplicably successful in a league that tries to make it harder and harder to sustain success.I mean why did people hate the Yankees back when they were winning? why did people hate the Cowboys in the 90s? why do people hate Alabama football and Duke basketball? why do people hate Manchester United and Real Madrid? because they have all kicked other peoples favorite teams asses one time too many. I mean I get the hate, but people need to stop lying to themselves too.
@MatthewHollie1987
4 жыл бұрын
Fact is, it's all about geography and division. Back when the Yankees were kicking ass on the field and on the payroll, everybody hated them, unless they are from New York. And the Red Sox are their rivals, so when they started winning everybody from New York hated them for taking their top spot in recent years. The Cowboys of the 90s? Every New York Giant fan hated them. Same way about Jets fans and Patriots fans, the Boston/New York rivalry is skin deep. It's not about their hatred for Brady. It's that they can't even stand him. Count me as one of them.
@jagartharn6361
4 жыл бұрын
@@MatthewHollie1987 Yeah but plenty of non New Yorkers hate the Patriots too so its not just the New York Boston rivalry.
@abney_66
4 жыл бұрын
As a Panthers fan u need to STFU! Joe Montana never needed his kicker to bail him out in the Super bowl TWICE!!(SB 36 & 38) Everybody knows that if Brady played in the 80s, he would of retire in a wheelchair. Idc what this guy in the video says,Brady wouldn't have been great in that era. If prime Joe Montana would of played rn he would be a top QB in the league no 🧢
@MatthewHollie1987
4 жыл бұрын
@@jagartharn6361 Name some.
@smittystrikesagain
5 жыл бұрын
For years I argued that Montana is the GOAT. Not just because of the rings. Montana played during a time when the Giants dynasty....and Redskins and Cowboys were great. But after 2016, it’s clear Tom Brady is the GOAT. We’re watching history.
@shopins2002
5 жыл бұрын
It's hard to compare these different eras because now the personnel change so consistently. The Montana era 49'ers would beat any of the Patriot teams although the Randy Moss team would be a tough matchup.
@grnnt123
5 жыл бұрын
@@shopins2002 it's not that hard Brady goat.
@billymo7108
5 жыл бұрын
@@shopins2002gonna have to say no to that 1 bud i dono if they beat most pats teams. They def wouldn't of beat the team with moss first year. Giants won no denying that but like he said it took one of luckiest catches ever that prob should of been a sack anyways and there's an interview or there where Rodney puts it all on him for not audible to help hobbs with Plaxico. Samuels dropped an easy pick. And IMO the league crying that they were getting beat so bad has something to do with it. Made the pats take the for if the gas a little bit........i think that's the greatest team ever assembled. Look at the D. Best qb ever most talented wr ever. Best hc ever defensive minded.......and you're taking away from the fact Brady had to go against prob the num 3 qb year after year who's offensive was STACKED. Poor the Ravens who D was incredible. A team bb kinda help put together. And then the Steelers. You take away from all those greasy teams theparts had to go through to win. Even Seahawks. And chiefs this year
@subscribetopewdiepieunsubs7765
5 жыл бұрын
@@billymo7108 Montana had Hall famers on both side if the ball his entire career in San Francisco. Brady didn't. But has gone to more Superbowls. Nit to mention free agency, Salary cap, more competition, and Brady taking no name and scrub receivers, veterans beyond their orjmes and low draft picks to the SB. Montana always had great-hall of fsme players. Brady didnt.
@johnre5342
Жыл бұрын
@subscribetopewdiepieunsubs7765 tom played with many more hall of famers than joe.
@AJxxxxxxxx
3 жыл бұрын
🙄 There’s no argument here, Brady surpassed Montana a long time ago and anyone who knows anything about football won’t argue it
@rickjames4786
3 жыл бұрын
Give an honest answer... If joe montana got 4 rings in 9 years, how many rings would he have if he played 20 years? Fair question.
@AJxxxxxxxx
3 жыл бұрын
@@rickjames4786 Could of, would of, should have, but he didn’t, we don’t give credit to people for stuff they could have done, but didn’t 🤷♂️ do we give out Nobel prizes for attempted chemistry but the chemist just decided to call it quits half way through
@rickjames4786
3 жыл бұрын
@@AJxxxxxxxx its called putting things into context... Tom brady aint playing no damn 20 years in the 80s and 90s stop it.
@AJxxxxxxxx
3 жыл бұрын
@@rickjames4786 Context 🤨 ,..... man I’m putting things in reality who has more super bowl rings 🤷♂️ the guy who could have or the guy who already does
@rickjames4786
3 жыл бұрын
@@AJxxxxxxxx agree to disagree one had longevity thats y he has more rings. 4-0 no INTS before his career ending injuries.
@dwightballard3868
5 жыл бұрын
Good stuff! Well crafted arguments. If there was any doubt about the GOAT, it was totally over after the Pats/Falcons SB- that was a game for the ages.
@snappa8791
5 жыл бұрын
Best game ive ever seen hands down I knew I was witnessing greatness! TB12 GOAT
@michaelhaas1298
4 жыл бұрын
TB12 hands down. No reason to debate !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LFG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@rlygudprayur1420
4 жыл бұрын
well i think it is this simple: who has the offensive-minded coach? who has the defensive-minded coach?
@subscribetopewdiepieunsubs7765
4 жыл бұрын
Perfectly said!!
@befrlilhomie8929
3 жыл бұрын
Bill was more defense
@HugoStiglitz88
3 жыл бұрын
That was his point. Brady did it himself almost. As he has proven this year with the bucs
@pts5217
4 жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as the GOAT. The game changes way too much to compare. Babe Ruth dominated to an insane extent, but I doubt he’d be able to with today’s pitching. Apples/Oranges. Montana greatest 1980-200. Brady greatest 2001-2020.
@lainiwakura4678
4 жыл бұрын
Actually you can easily argue that the Babe doing what he did during the dead ball era makes his feats even more impressive. One year when he led the league with 29 HR's... that was more HR's than all but 5 *teams* as a whole had. That's a good way to add perspective and context imo. And I have little doubt that men could throw in the mid 90's and had nasty stuff then too.
@paulc9434
3 жыл бұрын
I grew up watching Montana and until about 2005 would think it was close. It’s honestly not. Tampa Bay TB is in another category yet to be presented.....PERIOD!
@jonnyv808
5 жыл бұрын
Man. I love and admire all the work you did in this video. This has EVERYTHING to prove (and debate) on this particular subject.
@VonAllenSports
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching and commenting! I hope you subscribed! :)
@mooreorlessvideos
3 жыл бұрын
Brady crushed after his 7th
@brentlowe568
5 жыл бұрын
Rules changed the game has evolved, but in Montana’s defense he was hit more often. Qb’s today are more protected and careers last longer. But both are the best in their respective eras
@VonAllenSports
5 жыл бұрын
That's exactly why I really didn't focus on the bulk stats. Because of era differential, I felt it would be unfair to Joe. So I wanted to focus on other things that make a QB great. Let everyone else make a million videos about stats. I wanted to do something that reflected the things that can't always be discerned from a stat sheet :) Thanks for watching and commenting, I hope you subscribe! :)
@trevmac8362
5 жыл бұрын
But you are leaving out one important fact that when Brady won his first 3 Super Bowls in 4 years *2001,2003,2004* you were allowed to hit the QB. Brady missed the entire 2008 season because he was hit below the knee. But the fact that no one can get around is the salary cap era where in the 80's the 49ers always had the highest payroll in the NFL. You give New England that payroll and Jerry Rice and the once cut and released Joe Montana doesn't stand a chance against Brady in the debate
@thegoat164
5 жыл бұрын
@@trevmac8362 WRONG! 2001 NFL MAJOR RULE changes were Taunting rules and Roughing the Passer will be STRICTLY ENFORCED. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_NFL_season#Major_rule_changes Tom Lady is the Queen of the Arena Football League and Bill Belichick himself knows that! Jimmy Johnson A Football Life Johnson and Belichick are having a discussion about what a PUSS BALL game it is today. I only wish I could have heard the WHOLE discussion. Johnson "It use to be a QB driven League, NOW that's the ONLY thing!" Belichick "Yeah" Johnson "I mean some of the rule changes have helped them too!" Belichick "Oh my god!" Johnson "The receivers aren't intimidated to go across the field, they know they're not going to get the BIG HIT!" Belichick "The DEFENDERS are intimidated, they're AFRAID to hit them!" Johnson "Yeah they're AFRAID to hit them, they don't want to get FINED!" Belichick "Yeah that's RIGHT!" Jimmy Johnson A Football Life to hear convo go to the 47 min 34 sec mark. kzitem.info/news/bejne/s4idr6aEbGWWYIo Joe Montana GOAT QB Ronnie Lott GOAT S Jerry Rice GOAT WR Bill Walsh GOAT COACH NFL Films Top 10 NFL Mount Rushmores #1 49ers Lott, Rice, Montana and Walsh Thee BEST of the best PERIOD!!! kzitem.info/news/bejne/upxumG2BqoxyiYI
@yawgmoth6568
5 жыл бұрын
One thing this video doesn't touch on is perhaps the hardest part to quantify, and that's story line. It is often handed down by fate and not entirely under a players control but in some cases it makes them who they are in the mind of the public and in the history and lore of the game. Joe Louis defeating Max Schmeling at a time of tension with the Nazi Regime, symbolizing a victory for the free world. Ali losing part of his prime to stand up for his beliefs and in part to protest racial inequality, his eventual return and career defining fight with George Foreman. Jordan's abrupt retirement after his father's death, his failures in baseball and his subsequent return to dominance in the sport he was born to play. Brady's career plays out like an Oscar winning drama. From his beginning as a completely unknown 6th round draft pick to quarterback of one of the biggest underdogs in Super Bowl history who go on to upset the big bad established team that had won a Super Bowl recently, to becoming the big bad established team, to his emergence as a bona fide superstar in 2007 that also coincided with his own team being upset by one of the biggest underdogs in Super Bowl history, his second loss to that same team that left you feeling like the trade off for his individual greatness was an inability to win in the biggest games to his lowest point when his team was trailing the Seahawks 24-14 amidst deflategate and in jeopardy of losing a 3rd straight Super Bowl to his redemption in leading his team back from that deficit all with the pressure of having his legacy on the line to his master stroke career defining performance against Atlanta, his tantalizingly close loss against the Eagles that left you feeling like he missed the opportunity to retire after Atlanta with the perfect storybook ending and would be stuck with a bitter ending, to his win against the Rams that vindicated his decision to keep playing and reinforced the trust he has in his method and revealed a glimpse into his own mind set: that he's not thinking about being the GOAT nor does he concern himself with relishing in his past glories... he just focuses on the next game and on doing what it takes to win it.
@VonAllenSports
5 жыл бұрын
Great post :) I absolutely agree with you. And that is exactly how the Brady Hate Saga ends. I wrap it up with the legacy and it's overall meaning. So we are of the same mind! :)
@JonDoe-uc3km
5 жыл бұрын
That is an amazing write up
@americanpatriot7233
3 жыл бұрын
more qb's in the 80s had broken bones than qb's in bradys era. aiklam had his shoukder broken theisman had his leg broken, montana had his back broken, the list goes on and on so this ghuy who made this video is very ignorant on football
@PsychoMantis308
3 жыл бұрын
I call bullshit... Brady tore his ACL/MCL and still came back and won 3 more Superbowls. Alex Smith snapped his leg in half. Defenceman are stronger, bigger and faster now. Get a clue
@scottdavidson7543
3 жыл бұрын
@@PsychoMantis308 nah
@trayisraw
3 жыл бұрын
Is that supposed to be something you brag about? that dudes got injured way more in the 80s? Lmao i didnt know injuries were a good thing
@americanpatriot7233
3 жыл бұрын
@@trayisraw ur missing the point it went way over ur head, big dummy
@jeccwrs5495
5 жыл бұрын
I grew up with both as most of us have. My first super bowl was Joes’s first vs Cincinnati! And he broke my heart year in and year out! He would nail the two minute comeback EVERY GOD Damned time, like clock work! And I didn’t think we would ever see another like him! But Brady hasn’t only surpassed him, but he has taken it to another level! You look at who Montana had around him and he had like 10+ HOF players around him and TOM has only had 2-3? TOM is the 🐐! And I’m a heart broken jets fan! And NE, you are welcome for giving him to you! Via knocking out your other qb nobody can remember! 😂
@goalscorerlajon
Жыл бұрын
The QB who was knocked out, was Drew Bledsoe.
@rickyrichreacts9667
7 ай бұрын
That superbowl comeback against the Falcons is what solidified his number 1 ranking all time. For years, I would not put Brady above Manning or Montana but that superbowl comeback was incredible and you can’t argue against 7 titles. WHO ELSE HAS 7 SUPERBOWL CHIPS!?!?!?!?
@thegoat164
6 ай бұрын
That so called "comeback" Brady threw a Pick6 putting himself in that 28-3 hole and then comes back against the 27th ranked Atlanta D😂 Who else has 7 SB Chips? Let me ask you this, how many 20th century quarterbacks played in a SB at the age of 40? Do you get a tuck rule to get you started? Do you get a top 10 defense for 17 seasons? Will the QB be taking huge pay cuts his whole career? If this QB leads his offense to 13 points in 2 SBs does he still get the W like Brady did in SB 36 and SB 53? Does this QB's D get him a pick at the one yard line in a SB to give him the W? Does this QB get to play avg in many playoff games but still get the W because of his defense and a helluva lot of good fortune?
@tomtorrell8019
3 жыл бұрын
GOAT? C'mon man! It's Tom Brady...hands down. Use any measuring stick you want.
@vikhyathreddygandavarapu7975
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@llorenstorrespr4409
2 жыл бұрын
Joe.#1☝🏼. Brady, is just a glorify QB.
@LukeR.5117
2 жыл бұрын
No one values opinions that stupid.
@llorenstorrespr4409
2 жыл бұрын
@@LukeR.5117 Then, we're on the same boat! & yes, that includes you!
@LukeR.5117
2 жыл бұрын
@@llorenstorrespr4409 I don't think so. I don't go around spewing inanites and acting as if Montana was a fraud. That's the problem here. The people who rate Brady #1 almost unanimously considered Montana the greatest prior to being surpassed several years ago, myself included. No one denigrates what Joe accomplished. Montana advocates, on here at least, are extremists, exalting him and disparaging everything Brady has earned. Referring to Brady as a "glorified QB" is the height of irrationality and ignorance. I get it, you're all enraged that your beloved QB is no longer regarded as the greatest. So you ramble on and on about how different the league was "in my day" and how today's game is illegitimate. Get over yourselves. If Brady gets surpassed someday, so be it. I'm not going to live in denial.
@llorenstorrespr4409
2 жыл бұрын
@@LukeR.5117 You're the ignorant one! if, in your heart you believe Brady is the best, then you should to yourself. You came on here insulting me because my own opinion bothered you! iGave my person opinion, iwasn't atacking anyone, you did. So, you're ignorant. Couldn't handle someone else opinion. So i'm supposed to believed Brady is the best because you say so! i don't think so!
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