I am so glad I got this bike during the Black Friday sale. Bike, extra battery, fenders, helmet, chain lock, and water bottle for $1300. I’ve had zero issues with the fenders. I don’t plan to unlock my bike, as I’ll be off-road most of the time, so I’m hoping for a little better mileage than you got. My only question is will both batteries charge when both are hooked up to the bike? If not, I’m going to start looking for an extra charger.
@scotthardesty
9 ай бұрын
You have to charge each battery separately.
@rayrussell6258
9 ай бұрын
Excellent review as usual, Scott. I trust your honesty and completeness when you do ebike tests. Those Mooncool factory range values are really not very noteworthy. A range of 30-45 in Class 2 single battery, or 80 miles in Class 2 dual battery is less than Aventon. Aventon Aventure 2 in Class 3 settings is expected to go 6o miles with only one battery. I am range testing mine right now in eco mode, and have gone 15 miles using only 11% of the battery. Weather hasn't been good, so I'm delayed finishing the test. My earlier first range test on the Aventure 2 in the highest PAS, while trying to hit top speeds the entire time, with some 100% throttle use on hills, yielded 44 miles, compared to similar riding in your video review that yielded just 22 miles on the first battery, and 35 miles using up BOTH batteries. I can't be sure yet, but I think in eco mode, using no throttle and on flatter terrain, this Aventure 2 bike will exceed the dual battery Mooncool's advertised 80 miles range easily (which in this review turned out to be 35 miles, not 80), and it performs better (as a Class 3) while doing it, even if the Mooncool is dual motor (Class 2). The Mooncool does not get you to the legal Class 3 speed limit of 28 mph, the Aventon Aventure 2 easily gets you to the legal limit as a Class 3. The only advantage of Mooncool is a slightly lower base price, but my Aventure 2 came with some of the equipment as standard (like fenders --- metal, not Mooncool's plastic, and a back rack) that Mooncool will charge extra for. The Aventon has all lights integrated, no manual switches like those taillights on Mooncool, and brake lights / self-cancelling turn signals are standard on Aventure 2. Aventure 2 also has multiple frame sizes at no extra cost, to accommodate a wider height range of rider. To recharge my Aventure 2 battery takes 5 hours, not 6-8 hours as required for the Mooncool (for each battery). For slightly more money, the Aventon is really a better buy. Opting out on Mooncool fenders to save money, people might get goose poop on them. 😁 I had a regular bike years ago that had no fenders. I got mud all over my back one day riding it. Never again. I bought fenders for it the next week.
@scotthardesty
9 ай бұрын
Thank you Ray for the support. When it comes to the range test, I am used to only getting 1/2 or less then what is advertised. Those distances are normally with a 160lb rider, riding at PAS 1, on flat land with the bike locked to 20mph. As you know, I am 220-225 and I abuse these bikes in the review. My Aventure 2 is still my favorite 26" Fat tire bike (with a torque sensor) but this MC3 might be my favorite cadence sensor bike. I will get those fenders figured out. I am thinking about doing a distance test with this bike in AWD the entire time. I don't expect to it go very far and I cannot wait to test this thing in the snow. I appreciate the support!
@rayrussell6258
9 ай бұрын
@@scotthardesty I weigh 215lb, and am 6'5". I'm not light, young, or aerodynamic. lol The figures in my post are not a standard 160lb rider. And I'm using the large-frame version of the Aventure 2. I did my abuse in the first range test I did with top PAS. I don't want to admit my average speed on that test, but you can probably imagine it because you have one and know its capability. Now I'm trying the feather touch approach in eco mode. With only 11% battery used, I've gone 15 miles. I'm sure I'll surpass the 80 miles advertised for Mooncool dual battery, just saying.
@scotthardesty
9 ай бұрын
@@rayrussell6258 Ah. I’m guessing your post was in one of the Facebook groups?
@rayrussell6258
9 ай бұрын
@@scotthardesty nope, I don't use Facebook. Too much non-sense goes on in Facebook, so I've never had an account there. You were one of the reviewers who helped me decide to get the Aventon Aventure, with your fair reviews. If another ebike comes along that's better for the money, you'll probably convince me to get one. The Mooncool just doesn't seem to be that ebike.
@scotthardesty
9 ай бұрын
@@rayrussell6258 thanks for the trust Ray. I appreciate the support. Let’s see what 2024 brings us as companies (the good ones) keep improving their best sellers and coming out with new models.
@highshotsvideos3501
Ай бұрын
bought the bike. but tried buying extra batteries. both batteries are SOLD OUT. any ideas batteries from different mfgs.
@scotthardesty
Ай бұрын
You might have to dive into some reddit groups or fb groups to find those guys who are super smart on batteries and switching things out. I never have time for that kind of research but maybe someone will see your comment and help.
@blackeyesforyou
3 ай бұрын
Unfortunate they don't ship to Canada. I was literally ordering the bike until the country button said US only. Damn.
@scotthardesty
3 ай бұрын
Oh no... bummer.
@douglasedmonds8372
2 ай бұрын
you are the reason were getting banned from trails. was watching very closely and you were blasting past those walkers at 25mph and not hitting your bell or announcing yourself ahead of time. come on, you can do better!!!!
@scotthardesty
2 ай бұрын
You should see me on bikes that do 35mph.
@Armyveteran-q8g
2 ай бұрын
I enjoyed the moon cool testing. I was kind of hoping that you were going to show us what you did to resolve the fender rubbing issue. If you have a video already explaining how to do that I sure would appreciate seeing it.
@scotthardesty
2 ай бұрын
I took time and readjusted it. It was more of a user error thing. Once I put them back on and took my time to adjust them, they work fine.
@edugomezgz
5 ай бұрын
Essa bike esta bloqueada so pode, dois motores e nao chega a 35 miles, precisa confiugrar em
@scotthardesty
5 ай бұрын
não vamos esquecer que eu estava indo o mais rápido que pude durante o máximo que pude. Esta bicicleta irá muito mais longe se for andada mais devagar.
@Peter-gn3fo
5 ай бұрын
Anyone knows a dual motor ebike whit adroid app sow i can adjust the speed and watts on my phone?
@scotthardesty
5 ай бұрын
Great question. Hopefully, someone with that knowledge can answer.
@southernebiking
9 ай бұрын
I would love to see these bikes getting lighter instead of heavier. A second motor seems to add nothing but weight. on another note scott I am dropping a video on Monday out on some great mountain bike trails. You may want to head south when you see these LOL. Great job on the review.
@scotthardesty
9 ай бұрын
I get what you are saying. I have reviewed a couple of really nice lite weight ebikes. One if my favorites is the Velotric T1ST weighing only 36lbs. My first video with this bike was on a MTB trail. That's where you can really feel the power of the 2nd motor. Also if you you are on the beach and ride in sand alot. I can also assume this thing will be a beast in the snow (looking forward to testing it out). But for the type of riding I did today, I agree that the 2nd motor is not a necessity. I might have to do another video with it in AWD the entire time to see how that performs. You know I love a good mtb trail so I will check it out! Thanks for watching!
@fisheyeguy
9 ай бұрын
The second motor adds extraordinary hill climbing ability. Thats the reason I bought this bike, as I’ll do most of my riding off-road.
@scotthardesty
9 ай бұрын
@@fisheyeguy it was amazing on the MTB course I took it on. Does your battery rattle?
@fisheyeguy
9 ай бұрын
@@scotthardesty my battery does not rattle.
@ericberg7364
7 ай бұрын
So honest, your awesome. I've recommended this video to a friend who is interested in the step through model
@scotthardesty
7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@johnw65
9 ай бұрын
Great review, and thanks for the Chicago tour! It could be that the dead battery pulls down on the 2nd battery, Whereas running the batteries at the same time should be more even readings...
@scotthardesty
9 ай бұрын
Interesting. I am thinking about just leaving both plugged in and keeping the bike in AWD just to see how far it would go.
@johnw65
9 ай бұрын
Good idea@@scotthardesty, Only being 1000W total but having the option of double peak pwr from the throttle, it should cruise economically on flat ground and with a tailwind. Maybe best to drop PAS to 18mph (or less) when uphill or fighting headwinds to allow for some muscle assist? My plan is an upgrade to a 750W/1100peak 80nm folder. SHreddie bumped 48V hubs with 52V batteries for more speed. So, could a 500W/36V front hub do the same in a 48V system...? Paralleling 48V fully charged batteries requires no 'blender' if they're hard wired and charged together...
@denniseheim5875
9 ай бұрын
I have this Mooncool bike and had NO problem with the fenders. Just follow the directions for mounting them. In the video, it looks like you didn't mount the front fender with the bolt that is the same mounting point as the headlight. Both my fenders mounted easily and didn't rub on the tires. Also, I didn't think the bike pedalled very hard with no power assist. Did you pump up the tires to the recommended 20 psi ? I love the bike and have no issues. And...it came well packaged and in perfect condition.
@scotthardesty
9 ай бұрын
@@denniseheim5875 It seems the written directions showed me connecting the front fender behind the bracket. I did notice in the video the angle of the arms so I am going to connect it to the where the headlight is mounted. I will have to purchase longer bolts and raise that back fender/rack up with washers to get it to clear the tire. I could have just gotten a messed up set, either way, I will make it work. Those tires can actually go up to 30lbs psi and I had them at 22lbs. I appreciate the input, and even with the issues, I still really like this bike.
@denniseheim5875
9 ай бұрын
The proper way to use the 2 battery setup is to use them both together. I think after you drained the main battery end then plugged in the second battery, the drained battery was sucking some power from the fresh battery therefore lessening the range from that second charged battery . Maybe someone else could comment and confirm or deny this theory.
@scotthardesty
9 ай бұрын
I agree with you. I will be doing another video doing a distance test while its in AWD the entire time. I will have both batteries connected the entire time. The only way I could show someone how far they could go if they didn't purchase the 2nd battery is to do it the way I did. After that, I always have both batteries hooked up.
@CharlesBronsun
8 ай бұрын
cool @@scotthardesty
@LawrenceBrownlarry
6 ай бұрын
Do you have to come to a stop to change wheel drives?
@scotthardesty
6 ай бұрын
No. You can change it while moving.
@bellyacres7846
Ай бұрын
still sold out - oh well I want a step thru dual motor for off road [logging roads] or a mid drive
@scotthardesty
Ай бұрын
You might want to check out the Aventon Ramblas. It's a super fun off hardtail emtb with a mid drive motor. tinyurl.com/4bx7wrdn
@bellyacres7846
Ай бұрын
@@scotthardesty thank you I have been looking at it, but the motor seems too small Ive not seen or tried one tho
@scotthardesty
Ай бұрын
@@bellyacres7846 I've made a few videos with it. It has 100Nm of torque.
@rockystewart9392
9 ай бұрын
how do you unlock it. please help
@scotthardesty
9 ай бұрын
1. Press and hold the "M" button about 3 seconds to turn the dispay on. 2. Press "+"& " -" buttons at the same time, enter the password "9999" and open advanced system settings. 3. Press the "M" button about 3 seconds till P01 starts to flash, press the "M" button again to adjust to P08. at last, press the "+" button and you can change the speed from 32 to 45.
@rockystewart9392
9 ай бұрын
@@scotthardesty thanks I'll try it.
@davidperezsalgado
5 ай бұрын
Hi Scott do you have a mooncool bike charger for sale?
@scotthardesty
5 ай бұрын
I do not. Sorry.
@davidperezsalgado
5 ай бұрын
Thanks 😊
@caddy2long
5 ай бұрын
Good review. I was thinking about getting the lectric xpeak. But i juat saw this bike today. I dont need to go over 24mph. I like in east tn. We have big hills and i think the duel battery , duel motor will make it easier. And i saw your video of it in the snow. Cool.
@scotthardesty
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! I hope it does you well.
@hankcuccina5260
9 ай бұрын
Well done on this video, informative and interesting.
@scotthardesty
9 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@davidperezsalgado
5 ай бұрын
That 606 in Chicago right wow ❤
@scotthardesty
5 ай бұрын
It's a beautiful trail. I am lucky to live so close to it.
@miketower21
9 ай бұрын
Nice I see your riding in all my good spots LOL from the Bloomingdale trail , Humboldt Park , North Ave beach & so on
@scotthardesty
9 ай бұрын
I live at the end of the Bloomingdale trail, I ride that one daily running errands. I do love riding my bike in Chicago! Thanks for watching!
@ellerybice3787
9 ай бұрын
For the quoted price in this video, you know that this evil-ped is going to be junk even before it arrives on your doorstep.
@scotthardesty
9 ай бұрын
It is one of the few bikes that arrived on my doorstep without any issues.
@DougBlunt
9 ай бұрын
Hi Scott .. love your videos . Do you know of a product where I can mount a holder for my ebike power bank? thanks
@scotthardesty
9 ай бұрын
Thanks Doug. Actually, I think this would work. Lamicall Bike Phone Holder amzn.to/3X8yJOd
@nicod974
9 ай бұрын
I'm from France, I don't think torque does add up like wattage...
@scotthardesty
9 ай бұрын
How would it not? If both motors produce 75Nm torque, then 2 would be 150. This is the info I got from the manufacture. Just curious, why do think it doesn't?
@mattg.5210
6 ай бұрын
Where did you get the unlock instructions? Been looking all over.. thanks!
@scotthardesty
6 ай бұрын
I got it from Mooncool directly.
@GAPE-HORN---3
4 ай бұрын
Hey where do you buy the second battery from ty
@scotthardesty
4 ай бұрын
Right here. tinyurl.com/mpy5b3s4
@GAPE-HORN---3
4 ай бұрын
@scotthardesty your a goat bro I'm hopefully picking one of these up this weekend. Is there any rating you can give this bike ? Outa 10
@scotthardesty
4 ай бұрын
@@GAPE-HORN---3 Out of the various fat tire bikes I have reviewed, this one was my favorite. I did multiple videos with this bike because I enjoyed it so much. 8/10
@mogeking56
Ай бұрын
80 miles seriously 😳 only if your a squirrel 🐿️
@scotthardesty
29 күн бұрын
Yeah. hahahahaha. I am sure they used 140lb rider who kept it in PAS 1 on flat land with no wind.
@jpmyles1560
8 ай бұрын
The way that camera angles round I can’t look at it.. the camera on normal looks good.
@scotthardesty
8 ай бұрын
cool.
@edinelsonramirez5656
7 ай бұрын
Sucks that the 2nd battery has smaller power capacity
@scotthardesty
7 ай бұрын
Not by much. I think when I turned on the 2nd battery, it was trying to feed the first one. I plan on doing a distance test in AWD with both batteries on to see what happens.
@catospanky
7 ай бұрын
Very informative review. Did you get the fender problems solved?
@scotthardesty
7 ай бұрын
I did. I mentioned in the Snow Test. I put the front fender on wrong (you would think I would know how to do it by now) and ended up putting spacers and longer bolts to give me clearance in the back. The rattling was not the battery, my controller was bouncing around so I put some felt in there and now my girl is quiet and good to go!
@catospanky
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the prompt reply. I'm glad to know that you like the e-bile. I'm seriously considering it.@@scotthardesty
@scotthardesty
7 ай бұрын
This bike is a lot of fun. I am reviewing another dual battery, dual motor e-bike that I plan to put up against this one. Meelod Dk300Max.
@justinwhite2951
9 ай бұрын
This is a bad e-Bike. terrible range, display, slow speed, seat, rattles.
@scotthardesty
9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the input!
@justinwhite2951
9 ай бұрын
@@scotthardesty What city are you in btw? These bike paths are amazing
@scotthardesty
9 ай бұрын
@@justinwhite2951 I live in Chicago. The actual city and not the suburbs. They have great bike trails here and they are always improving them.
@justinwhite2951
9 ай бұрын
So good. Best paths I’ve seen.
@scotthardesty
7 ай бұрын
@CRABlife-iv6fv It was a serious workout. I was only able to ride around 9-10mph. I do not recommend nor do I enjoy it. Is it doable? Yes, is it preferred? Absoluely not. I can't see anyone just riding that bike without power on an average basis.
@Mike-xq8bv
9 ай бұрын
They make you buy the rack and fenders for 150 $ 😂 BS I won't do that plus 500 watt duel again 😂 BS again only a sucker will buy this crap 😂
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