Well, today a CTS-v2 goes anywhere from 30-40 grand while you can pick up an e60 m5 for under 20,000 bucks. Time has decided which car is better it seems.
@Fony_turgeson
2 ай бұрын
Cts v does not lose value. I'm picking I'm mine 6spd manual recaro sedan 2 days.
@woodsoncircle
5 жыл бұрын
I like both cars however the maintenance on a M5 is ridiculously costly. I'd "settle" for the CTS V if I had a choice.
@carlmcdonald5864
5 жыл бұрын
I had a 2010 BMW M5 I had too many valve train problems I also have a 2013 Cadillac CTS-V and it's been super strong ever since I bought it
@j.caraballo1748
4 жыл бұрын
Carl Mcdonald Friend of mine owns that same M5 and the diff blew up on him...literally
@repnatl
3 жыл бұрын
BMW leaks oil and overheats from the factory lol. The v10 is trash with vanos issues and changing the rod bearings is an actual maintenance item like why. Not to mention the smg transmission is terrible.
@MM-bx4cs
3 жыл бұрын
BMW seems to be as reliable as DeLorean lol I have the CTS lol
@bliglum
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, BMW's are garbage.. Some of the worst reliability in the industry along with some of the most expensive maintenance costs... Bring Money With you!
@SportsMusicCars
2 жыл бұрын
@@bliglum BMW = Big Money Wanted.
@sspope
15 жыл бұрын
This is even more important: BMW M5 - 383 Lb-Ft Torque CTS-V - 551Lb-Ft Torque Caddie wins because of brutal straight line umpf, but real driving enthusiasts will appreciate the excellent ballance of the M5 and the way it handles at the limit.
@getalife04
15 жыл бұрын
This just shows that the most expensive car isn't always the best. Long live GM.
@hunghuge12
12 жыл бұрын
I agree. I had the privelage of driving the new M5 around a month back through a good friend's business. I used to like the V10 M5 (still do) but the new one is just leagues ahead of anything else out there at the moment for a mix of speed and luxury. I don't know if you've driven one but if not book a test drive. It's a very strange experience when a car so relaxed slams you in the seat. It doesn't need revving like the V10 - it just picks up and goes hard as soon as you floor it.
@2xtreem4you
6 жыл бұрын
The M5 was always my dream car. But after start reading up on these cadis am starting to think differently. BMW for the style and driving experience is still up there and will always be. They are just not reliable though..too much issues
@travyyyful
9 жыл бұрын
Damn I wish I can afford that caddy on my minimum wage job lol
@vladtheimpaler6970
9 жыл бұрын
Travis Wang if you start saving now by the year 2094 you could by that 2009 Cadillac CTS-V. It will probably be parked in an alley way with a family of Mexicans living in it, Also it will likely be worth less then a large pizza so at least your car insurance won't cost much.
@rueben44
9 жыл бұрын
Vlad the Impaler Or he could buy the BMW and be in the poor house when it has huge and constant repair issues once that warranty is gone.
@luxurreview
4 жыл бұрын
Now you can!
@SammyM00782
3 жыл бұрын
I couldn't afford anything other than my 1988 Firebird V6 with my minimum wage jobs from 1999-01 either...so I got out of that bullshit. Still can't afford to go get a newer V series, but I also have a mortgage now. Do have a 16 CTS-4 I got at a good price, and traded in my 06 Trailblazer SS to help. Persist my dude, and you'll get there.
@SammyM00782
3 жыл бұрын
Speaking of, what has happened in 6 years?
@Garf2O
Жыл бұрын
What people would really want is the M5 chassis and interior with the CTSV drivetrain, best of both worlds
@shawncweed
10 жыл бұрын
I like both these cars and unlike most of the posters here, I really am not overly loyal to any specific brand, but rather how well they do their mission. I have an M6 convertible and am very familiar with the V10 in the M5 as well as the SMG. The V10 is incredible in its own way, but if you have driven a blown V8 (my last car was a modded E55) you really miss the torque. The Cadillac has 40% more torque than the M5 and really make a difference off the line. I like my M6s build quality...like granite...but if I was in the market for a sedan, the CTS-V, and its incredible value, would make it one of my top choices. My only negative is the angular body. Looks great front on, but kind of plain from the sides.
@rodmunch69
2 жыл бұрын
You're nuts. I've owned CTS's and three BMW 4-series, and you think that CTS looks plain compared to that flat out ugly 5-series, which is as generic as it gets? This era of BMWs is awful they're just ugly cars, and thankfully that styling was changed when the 4-series came out for 2014. The 4-series, is a great looking car from every angle, but the 5 and 3 series both look generic as hell. If we're only talking about these two cars, head to head, I'd take the Caddy any day of the week.
@CHEGTO
Жыл бұрын
@@rodmunch69 He didn’t respond but I will I agree the angular body of the cats-v looks like they tried really hard to be edgy and different but that running gear is the main reason you would purchase it . Now the M5 just a pain to think that someone thought it was a great idea to allow them to put the potential that that motor has into that body style of car. I mean a damn V10 the last v10 road car outside of Audi’s s series that we will ever get to see “because of the leash holders” placed inside the body of a brick with the edges sanded off I would purchase the BMW 2nd hand only because of the engine in it .
@blackbird1448
4 жыл бұрын
Cadillac is a clear winner! Cheaper, faster, way more torque (551lb/ft vs 383lb/ft) and way better looking than the boring BMW. The 2dr. Cadillac CTS-V Coupe version looks even cooler!
@jonhymarquez8166
6 жыл бұрын
Both timeless designs, they will still look fresh in 20 years
@repnatl
3 жыл бұрын
The BMW will end up in the junkyard due to the shitty engine and transmission.
@AmericanBusinessman422
Жыл бұрын
No
@bfxieho0f111
Жыл бұрын
@@repnatl they are cooler than ur crappy jdm shit
@polizeiguym5
13 жыл бұрын
@gmman05 Remember that the M5 engine and platform was conceived in 2004. The CTS-V wasn't until late '06-early '07. Plus, its 1.2 liters smaller in displacement and is naturally aspirated. I'm not knocking the CTS-V, its a great car no doubt, but just don't forget those figures
@MrReeseJ
10 жыл бұрын
I'm a car guy so I love cars, not only if it's American or European or Asian. I appreciate cars for what they are not where they're built. I get having American pride but the engine in the 2nd generation CTS-V is produced in GM's Silao, Mexico engine assembly plant. I think I'm just going to appreciate it for being an amazing car and will be my next.
@auniqueusername
15 жыл бұрын
Caddy is a better deal, and GM should be proud of their accomplishment. If I was wealthy enough that I could buy either, I'd choose the Bimmer - love that 8250rpm V10, stellar brakes and great road feel. However, with price being a factor, I'd have to consider a 2yr old Bimmer vs the Caddy. Tough choice. Caddy rides nice, performs better and is new vs. used. Still, it's ugly next to the Bimmer. I'd call it a tossup. I'd be thrilled with either. I've only been in M5, and love it.
@vernonprice5986
11 жыл бұрын
History has nothing to do with anything. The CTS-V was developed SPECIFICALLY to beat the M5 into the pavement, and it did. The LSA engine in the Cadillac is a ridiculously good and reliable engine, it has a long history and it's been tested and proven for many, many years.
@rogertucka
4 жыл бұрын
Love both cars. I drive M5’s for a living, but the cts-v is my dream car.
@alexuin
15 жыл бұрын
CTS-V is the best american car ever made, and is better that a BMW M5 Nice job GM!!!!!
@Fernando5455Jr
10 жыл бұрын
Any one can super charge an engine. BMW still has a naturally inspired engine.
@toomuchtodrink2
8 жыл бұрын
BMW us a naturally aspirated engine in this car but a v10 block not a v8 so it's a fair fight but not when the car is compared with a brand new Cadillac. If they'd waited a year and compared the BMW m5 f10 with the Cadillac and we'd see that absolutely every figure would be not marginally better than the Cadillac but miles better.
@wallyborrero4967
7 жыл бұрын
Fernando5455 it's a V10 calm down
@992turbos8
6 жыл бұрын
toomuchtodrink2 Yes it’s a V10 but not the same if you had a tiny bit of Engineering back ground you would know the difference forced air changes a lot of things in terms of power and Torque if that’s the best Cadillac can do with a 6.3 liter supercharge engine-vs- 5 liter naturally aspirated engine, Cadillac is sad !!!
@RBZ06LT6
5 жыл бұрын
You could actually not supercharge that 5.0 v10 cause theyre not strong enough. The shity transmission would not stand it anyways. So to answer your comment... not anyone can supercharge an engine.
@bilbobaggins4710
4 жыл бұрын
@@992turbos8 the factory detunes them dumb FUCK...Mr I'm an engineer... Engineers are FUCKING dorks
@m5pilot397
11 жыл бұрын
Correct. More like 32-35K for a mint, well-optioned, under-25K-mile one, but you are correct. I like the (supercharged) CTS-V, a lot, it is one of the coolest cars ever to come out of Cadillac Division, especially the wagon (!), but it ain't no BMW, sorry.
@mariom-1172
Жыл бұрын
This is not even a question for me, I'm going with the M5 no doubt about it. I still have my 08' M5 and I will never replace that thing for anything. I've never driven anything like it and I owned a CTS before the m5
@repnatl
3 жыл бұрын
Ctsv is better easy to mod and will last longer. BMW v10 will have vanos and transmission issues. Who makes and engine where rod bearings are a maintenance item? That v10 sounds amazing and plenty of power but to own one isn't worth it. You would be better off with an m113k powered amg benz.
@esickxtmfive4980
4 жыл бұрын
Correction: the m5 is still faster You guys stated the CTS-V is faster but it crossed the (1/4)mile 3 mph slower. The m5 also has a much higher top speed. Like much much higher. Therefore the m5 is still faster. I think motorweek meant to say the cts-v is QUICKER. Because the m5 is definitely faster.
@SportsMusicCars
2 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about?? The V trapped 118 the M 116.
@esickxtmfive4980
2 жыл бұрын
@@SportsMusicCars ok but who cares about the 1/4. The m5 is not a 1/4 mile car
@esickxtmfive4980
2 жыл бұрын
@@SportsMusicCars I'm talking about top speed. The cts-v can't even reach 190 lol
@SportsMusicCars
2 жыл бұрын
@@esickxtmfive4980 sounds good. have a nice day.
@SportsMusicCars
2 жыл бұрын
@@esickxtmfive4980 wow. lol stop sniffing glue my man 186mph is enough of a top speed but if you need that extra 4mph... lol... keep racing long and fast enough and eventually the M edges in front...lol... meanwhile any sane person has stopped racing a long time ago and is back to driving normally, not like a possessed lunatic
@dougie281
6 жыл бұрын
Its 2018! I can finally afford these devalued cars!😂
@89timdog
14 жыл бұрын
to all you caddy haters out there this video just prove that it takes engineers to build a very high priced overly complicated machine to beat the cts-v the sedans ultimate bang for the buck. not to mention it goes over 190 mph with the manual at under 70 big ones.
@master9716
15 жыл бұрын
WOW ive never seen it in Black color IT LOOKS 10X better than in red!! cant belive its only 60k
@lenwoodcruze3594
4 жыл бұрын
The M5 is to be avoided unless money is no longer a issue to you.....
@bedcap
14 жыл бұрын
I would take the CTS-V any day, when I drive a car, I like to drive it myself, not have 52 computers take over for me and make me LOOK like a good driver.
@originaldriver2066
15 жыл бұрын
There wasnt anything "barely" about this win or the record-smashing time the CTS-V placed on the Nurburgring. Even though its a bit late in the game for GM, im glad to see them proving what Ive said for the longest..... That American cars can be competitive on curves as well as the straights.
@m5pilot397
11 жыл бұрын
No, actually the latest CTS-V was developed specifically to beat the e60 M5's Nurburgring Nordschleife lap time. That it can do, just barely. It took a supercharger and 556 HP to do it. How often do you lap the 'Ring? Me neither.
@kasteman1
9 жыл бұрын
The M5 has a paddle shift automatic option as well, I don't know why they didn't use it. Despite that, I do I think the CTS-V would still have better numbers, but the margins would be much tighter. With 50 more hp and 170 more lb/ft of torque, it'd be an absolute embarrassment if it wasn't faster.
@toomuchtodrink2
8 жыл бұрын
Comparing an almost completely fazed out BMW with a brand new Cadillac is silly not only that they compared a manual with an auto. Just stupid
@vernonprice5986
11 жыл бұрын
Come back and talk to me after you've driven a CTS-V. In the M5 you need to rev the snot out of it to get to the power, in the CTS-V you have a mountain of torque at 2500 RPM.
@esickxtmfive4980
4 жыл бұрын
Come back and talk to me at 211 mph
@mattkay7334
8 жыл бұрын
lol, the Cadillac beats the BMW in every category, but they still call it the "ultimate driving machine." BMW, just accept when you have been beaten, there's a reason the CTS-V is known as the "M5 killer."
@VaunShiz
8 жыл бұрын
actually mercedes is schooling them both atm lol
@gpavlovic25
8 жыл бұрын
Took Cadillac several years to catch up though. This is the same BMW from 2004. The Cadillac was updated and only then was it able to beat the BMW. The 1st gen CTSV is the E60 M5's true rival. This CTSV should go against the new F10 M5
@mattkay7334
8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but it does take a few years to completely overhaul your brand from a luxury car for old people to a high performance, high luxury, beautiful cars.
@Fernando5455Jr
8 жыл бұрын
+Matt Kay Anyone can put a supercharger in a car and make fake power. BMW 5.0 V10 has no super or turbocharger. But put the same supercharger in the M5 and that would drive circles around the Cadillac. In fact this BMW M5 is considered the last 4 door supercar.
@Danbimmerfan
8 жыл бұрын
You should probably drive some high end bimmers before jumping to conclusions on any Cadillac being superior cause it's just not even close to true lmao
@e-boy2252
4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what tires these two came with🤔 definitely makes a difference on the track
@terryrutherford2114
Жыл бұрын
I have a 2011 CTS-V. It's pretty cool. If I were to buy I would opt for a V3 or a CTS-V Blackwing, and yes I own an Audi S5 and previously owned a Audi S8. I like the German cars, but I'm just a GM fan boy. Have had a Nova, Impala, Camaro, 3 GM trucks, well you get it. The CTS-V is phenomenal.. Thanks for the video. Sorry I'm late!
@vernonprice5986
11 жыл бұрын
Cadillac has better quality ratings than BMW does, and let's see if you can actually define "integrity" in this context. The CTS-V is the better car, for a vastly lower price.
@stevet5573
4 жыл бұрын
Being lucky enough to own one ... my ‘11 sedan has 90k miles and zero issues. 4 sets of brakes and new tires every summer is more a reflection on me. I love love love my V ... couple of mods (exhaust, cai, pulleys, injectors and a tune) she puts 600 hp on the ground and still shocks the dude in the other lane.
@gmracing15
15 жыл бұрын
to furknee06 question: what determains engine torque is generally two things 1)engine size the larger engine will develop more torque then a smaller one (even if the smaller motor makes more horse power then a larger engine. so engine size = torque 2) if you don't have engine size u can increase torque through turbos or superchargers called boost induced torque. these are generally and main ways of developing torque
@stanbernadino
15 жыл бұрын
Both cars are nice, but I'd take the CTS-V any day.
@wildstar43
7 жыл бұрын
I will take the CTS-V all day and any day! :)
@LuckyBarber
15 жыл бұрын
The gorgeous CTS-V looks simply vicious in black. Darth Vader on wheels.
@chrisjana75
12 жыл бұрын
@MewCat100 I disagree, I have a cts and looked at BMW's before I bought my car....The M5 interior was boring and looked like a typical 30k car interior while the cts had nice lines, and better materials....The interior is what really sold me on the CTS, it is amazing. All of the people I know that have been in it comment on how great it is, and some of them own BMW's and Mercedes and all of them admit the cts interior is better..youtube is the only place I hear otherwise
@mjdc2505
15 жыл бұрын
Damn, I can't believe the Cadillac CTS-V killed the BMW-M5. I hope the Cadillac CTS-V can outperform the other small-size luxury cars.
@burninggas7715
8 жыл бұрын
Dear Motorweek can you upload the road Test of the normal BMW e60 5 Series, it would be realy nice.
@TheZackb07
11 жыл бұрын
Jumping on this late, but the displacement doesn't necessarily mean engine size. The LS7 is smaller and lighter than a BMW 4L V8 or their V10. It also gets better mileage and better power ratings. It is a far superior performing engine, even if it is pushrod.
@MewCat100
12 жыл бұрын
I haven't been fortunate enough to drive one for an extended time. I took a brief test drive, but never got back for a second look. Everything you say is spot on. I love the feeling of being buried in the leather of an M5 as it rockets from a standstill to lightspeed in mere seconds. For an all around balanced car with lots of power but still useful, nothing beats the M5
@denalidriven1574
4 жыл бұрын
Love them both how ever drove both the suspension is def way way way better in the Cadillac that magnetic ride felt like nothing other so I bought a Denali so I could try the suspension way different tune but still amazing.
@sirloin4372
3 жыл бұрын
I’d take the caddy all day everyday, love cadillacs!
@joni19821
14 жыл бұрын
Like he said in the end of the video "The M5 is STILL the ultimate driving machine", nice try Cad but no luck this time. Considering that the Cads engine is bigger and has a charger i do have to say that they have a long way to go before they catch up with the BMW.
@JonnyXrep
9 жыл бұрын
Cadillac wins! Haters gonna hate!
@Hellafast2uDude
7 жыл бұрын
Sure, 2005 m5 vs 2009 cadi.
@992turbos8
6 жыл бұрын
JonnyXrep To bad the Caddie needed a supercharger to win without it it will LOSE
@charliebusser4255
6 жыл бұрын
It actually doesn't.... lol!!!! This test is very bias! Sponsored by GM!
@RODikUlus
15 жыл бұрын
Maybe not. M5's are usually broken in, & by the time they did this test, the CTS-V wasn't. Months before the CTS-V was for sale, Edmunds kept a good page on the progress of the CTS-V. GM testers said manual & auto versions get identical numbers 0-60 in 3.9, & 1/4 in 12.0. Those cars they were testing had definetly been broken in. CTS-V has a better power to weight ratio than M5, with a capable suspension setup. Neither transmission is sluggish. Stock vs.stock, CTS-V will always be ahead.
@ambientflier
13 жыл бұрын
@presidentbren Yes...because the cadillac's brick styling is so pretty, right?
@hunghuge12
12 жыл бұрын
It may not win on initial price but it gets much closer on cost to own when you take resale into it. It's a larger investement but you get a higher percentage back when you sell. After a couple of years they will both have cost about £20k. Even ignoring that I know which one I would have.
@cadrolls
11 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the next time you are out and about, you will count how many 20 year old Cadillacs are on the road compared to 20 year old BMWs and we will talk about which car is more reliable. Cadillac doesn't just make great cars, you know... They make Cadillac♥
@mlps93
12 жыл бұрын
BMW didnt need to be bailed out by tax payers shows they are a good responsible company which knows how to make quality cars that is respected world wide
@RODikUlus
15 жыл бұрын
Also, neandjd, if the M5 could beat the CTS-V's Nurburgrings lap time, BMW would have done so by now. Even when these 2 were pitted against each other on their 1st official match in Oct 2008 Road & Track, ( on video too), the CTS-V came to the fight with the manual only. The BMW came with SMG and manual versions. Manual M5 was scrapped, yet SMG M5 still didn't beat the CTS-V with manual. In fact, John H. could even get a netter N'bring time with the manual CTS-V as it tops at 190, auto at 175.
@colderbeer
15 жыл бұрын
Big-time congrats to GM and Cadillac, but this is like deciding which 5 star steakhouse to dine out at. Two extremely sweet cars.....like 2 very delicious steaks from 2 different places.
@damefaso
11 жыл бұрын
I don't need a mountain of torque to drive a car.I really don't want to start a conversation so about which one is better.You like the Cadi,well i like the M5
@RODikUlus
15 жыл бұрын
Even though the cost don't truly justify the Porsche, I feel it's a player because it too will be considered a High Performance Luxury Sedan. But like the host says, I'd buy the CTS-V sedan or coupe, before anything else, and keep more of my winnings.
@m5pilot397
11 жыл бұрын
1) Again, the e60 M5 DOES NOT have the stupid faked engine sounds piped into the sound system does. That's the newer, less pure F10 M5. 2) The manual-trans. e60 M5 is SIGNIFICANTLY slower 0-60 than the SMG-equipped one. Then engine was designed with the SMG trans. in mind. The stick isn't even available in Europe. Put an SMG e60 M% up against that CTS-V, and it will kick it's ass, sorry guys.... 3) The ATS is a decent effort, but isn't scaring BMW or much of any other potential competitor, sorry
@baehr2486
Жыл бұрын
No it won’t, the CTS V will 100% kick the e60 m5’s ass regardless of which transmission it has
@vernonprice5986
11 жыл бұрын
Again, I don't have to see it in person because I'm referencing what happened in this video. Have you watched the video? The CTS-V beat the M5 in handling and acceleration (and everything else) in this video. You should probably watch it before speaking again.
@vernonprice5986
11 жыл бұрын
Like I said, come back and talk to me after you've driven a CTS-V. You don't need 390 lb-ft of torque to drive a car either, this isn't about whether it's necessary to make the car move. This is about how it makes the car feel when you drive it. Because the CTS-V has so much torque you don't need to downshift to pass people. It's just nicer than having to downshift any time you want to do anything.
@sponk2112
Ай бұрын
Buying a new car every 2 or 3 years, I might go with the BMW. Holding on to a car for much longer than that, it's the Caddy all the way. Hell, in this matchup, the Caddy might win in either scenario, tbh.
@MewCat100
12 жыл бұрын
Way to respond to an old post there. You should keep up with the news, the F10 M5 is kicking the crap out of the CTS-V with ring times of 7:55, better handling, better acceleration, and better comfort. The only place it doesn't win is price.
@baehr2486
Жыл бұрын
Yeah and that’s saying a lot when you’ll have to cough up even more money just to to keep it running. Few bolt ons and still way less total cost of the bmw and it will demolish the M5 and while being admittedly slightly less luxurious.
@trevizons
15 жыл бұрын
Well, the BMW M5, is a very refined car itself, its power and technolgy, the body and the looks aren't that great, it could look like a new Honda, Toyota or something like that for someone that doesn't know anything about cars, but this time GM made a huge step forward with this vehicle, although Caddys have the reputation of strong and very well made cars for longevity, the CTS is the perfect combination for muscle car, luxury sedans, sports cars and money savers lovers ... My opinion.
@RODikUlus
15 жыл бұрын
You, Sir, are NOT my enemy. I read the edmunds review of the new 2010Mercedes Benz E63 AMG. It doesn't even appear to have a leg up on this Cadillac. Yet, I don't know what it's power to weight ratio is. I'll be going to the New York Int Auto Show soon, and check it out though. The Porsche Panamera, will be very expensive in top form, but at 3900 lbs, give or take, it may have a chance at matching or beating the Cadillac. But I still prefer the CTS-V. Waiting for the coupe version.
@dst977
5 жыл бұрын
The trade in on identical mileage, color and “standard option” cars, show the Cadillac beating the Beemer at $31k trade in value, where the almost twice as expensive at initial purchase BMW commands only $20k max on trade in. That’s according to KBB.
@RODikUlus
15 жыл бұрын
Also, factor in the cost of an specifically tuned upgraded suspension and brake package to balance the Camaro out. The CTS-V comes with MRC, and an upgraded brake option on top of the already excellent stock brake package. You just may be spending more for that Camaro to keep up with a CTS-V.
@vernonprice5986
11 жыл бұрын
The LS engine having a long history of reliability is not my opinion. It's a FACT. And yes, it's not an M car. it's sharper, it has better steering, better chassis and better lap times. The M car is inferior. You want to know what displacement does? The M5's 5 liter 10 cylinder engine made 380 lb-ft of torque. The CTS-V's 6.2 liter V8 makes 551 lb-ft of torque at a lower RPM. More power all across the rev range with a flatter torque curve. That's what displacement does.
@MrDirtguy01
15 жыл бұрын
The Caddy smokes the import, costs 30k less. Hmm, doesnt seem like brain surgery. The only reason to buy the Beamer is if your nose is so high in the air it causes brain fade.
@RODikUlus
15 жыл бұрын
With the previous CTS-V Caddy gave serious thought to creating a CTS-V+. If the 2009 CTS-V gets trumped slighty ( because that's all there is room for), I hope GM gives that serious thought again. They could keep the same power, or even up it a little, but the real deal will be in making it weigh less. It uses a full steel frame, so they could use a lighter one, slighly lighter rims, and carbon fiber body panels. Sure, it'd cost more, but it will still handle better, and cost less than the comp.
@naranthiranshanmugas
2 жыл бұрын
Mattel's Hot Wheels made a die cast replica of the Cadillac CTS-V
@CARPSPUDPICKER
15 жыл бұрын
Cadi is a way better deal! But if they were bolth the same price I'd take the BMW for reliability,fit and finish. If I wanted to turn heads I'd want the cadi, it's way more agersive looking!
@neil10451
14 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen a Caddy lay that much smoke since I stomped the gas in my '72 500ci fwd Eldorado. How about comparing it to the Benz C63 or E63. Or did M-B pay you guys NOT to be shown up by the new kid on the (performance) block?
@surajjohn29
11 жыл бұрын
Ive driven both the ctsv and the m5. The cadi is unbelievably fast but is not in par with the interior . The seats although leather felt cheap in the cts, and it had suede everywhere. And besides the M5 engine will always be better than the ctsv v8 even though the caddy has more power. Id take a high revving v10 anyday..
@surajjohn29
11 жыл бұрын
then again it comes down to personal preference. As an enthusiast, i like em both but to me M5 will be better as an all rounder drivers car just like the video says.
@rodmunch69
2 жыл бұрын
I've owned two CTS's and three BMW 4-series, and man does that CTS look fantastic. I had one that look just like the one at the start, except in sunset metallic orange, an absolutely beautiful car. That 5-series meanwhile is very generic looking, there's a reason I never paid attention to BMW before the 4-series came around in 2014. With that said, Cadillac went off the rails with their next-gen CTS after this, it got too big and too expensive, and the ATS was too small and cramped for my liking. Also, the thing that killed Cadillac for me, was the God awful CUE Infotainment system, when I went to the dealer in late 2013 to get another Cadillac, that stupid CUE setup was terrible, it was so slow and laggy and frustrating to use, it was why I left and went to the BMW dealership, knowing nothing about BMWs at all - but I saw the, then, new 4-series, and it was such a good looking car, fun to drive, I bought one on the spot.
@Boblib1970
Жыл бұрын
I just bought a 440 last month. My first BMW. Pretty fun and impressive daily driver.
@rodmunch69
Жыл бұрын
@@Boblib1970 yeah, they're a very good all around car, as couple they're awesome, as a sedan, they don't look that good, but better than the ugly 3 and 4 series, while hitting a very good size compromise. I've really liked mine, which is why I keep buying them. Remind me of old 80s GM coupes of that day in that you get a nice large coupe, great power/performance, can still legit seat 4 people in it if need be - made really well.
@gd8205
Жыл бұрын
Traded my 2015 M4 for a 2009 cts-v. M4 was much too underpowered for my liking. And modding the M was very expensive. The 09 V has been modded to 800whp, me and my kids love it. Love bmw but it lacks brute strength
@rodmunch69
Жыл бұрын
@@gd8205 I had a 2008 CTS that was completely loaded, in terms of looks, it was amazing - sunset orange, had the CTS-V grill and some other aftermarket parts, but just the base engine. I've owned a couple of Corvette's as well and I'm always partial to GM's V8's - and I know what you mean, although not at the scale you're talking about. But the BMW's make very smooth power, but it doesn't throw you back in your seat the way a GM V8 does - not that I've had anything close to 800hp. With that said, the one thing I do like about the BMW's is that they are so incredibly precise and balanced, that's its counter to brute force. I find myself, generally, getting another car every 18 to 24 months, and I'll switch between something balanced and precise and something that is a bit more fun and powerful. So next car, I might go back to Cadillac and get something like a '14 CTS-V coupe, one of my favorite looking cars ever. The only issue, to me, is that while the CTS interior from that era looks amazing, it's very outdated from a tech standpoint, with no way (I'm aware of) to really update it with modern conveniences like Carplay or putting in a much higher resolution screen instead. But I also haven't looked into it in a while, so maybe there's some aftermarket solutions.
@gd8205
Жыл бұрын
@@rodmunch69 very well said. I agree with you totally. Love the refinement of the bmw but brutality of the ctsv. Maybe try the C8 corvette? I have a deposit down on a Z06 but it will take time to get my allocation
@4fastdrs
14 жыл бұрын
@13tomabram To be fair 3 seconds is a big deal when your talking about lapping the ring in sub 8 min runs in 2 ton sedans. That being said, IF the panamera was able to pull off a 7:56 that just goes to show how unequivocally monstrous the cts-v is to have pulled a 3 second slower ring time then a $137,000 porsche, when it only cost 65K. I'm more then happy to take second place this time. All the panamera has proven is that it going to take LOTS&LOTS of money to beat the cts-v, and I agree!!!
@vernonprice5986
11 жыл бұрын
Sure, if you call 15 seconds a lap faster "just barely". What does me lapping the ring have anything to do with anything? Oh right, it doesn't. And you're wrong, the CTS-V was developed to beat the M5 in every single way. Braking, handling, acceleration, top speed, power, and of course price. And it did beat it in every single one of those ways, and overall. Not just on the nurburgring, everywhere and in every way.
@furknee06
15 жыл бұрын
how come the m5 has 300 torque and 500 horse power ???how does that work? i thought torque and horsepower went side by side?
@surajjohn29
11 жыл бұрын
true it is lighter and is a very cool engine. Love the throaty sound of the v8. Honestly ive driven both and i prefered the m5 at higher rpms. But who am i to judge, im a med student not an engineer. And maybe one day i hope ill be lucky enough to own both !
@2iBMX
14 жыл бұрын
The CTS-V may be able to outrun an M5 on the track but you lose the luxury of the rest of the car, PERSONALLY. Plus, VW, Audi, and BMW etc all had their huge revamping of most models back in 06, that's why this M5 styling seems so "yesterday" compared to the caddy. It all comes down to personal choice, both are fantasmic cars...
@Marc99GT
14 жыл бұрын
@89timdog No problem man. I was in a CTS-V about a month ago and it is an awesome machine. That is coming from a former Mercedes Benz Tech. I would buy one in a minute if I could afford it.
@ravenmadx
15 жыл бұрын
The GNX was Plagued by problems. Mainly the throttles sticking in wide-open. Nice...
@Marc99GT
14 жыл бұрын
Why do people think BMWs hold their value? It drops like a rock much like everything else. I'm looking at a 2007 BMW M5 with 37.8K miles for $43,800. Guess what it cost 3 years ago brand new? About 80K+. 2007 cts-V new-51K. Now- 31K with similar miles as the M5. The German cars not only drop alot in percentage, but the total dollars drop is worse.
@MewCat100
12 жыл бұрын
A good point about cost. They are both great cars, but the CTS just isn't quite there for me. The CTS is still a pretender. It made a good effort and was even able to beat 5 year old technology, but it did so without the style, luxury, and technological sophistication of the BMW. The new M5 is just so much better than either the CTS V or the previous M5.
@baehr2486
Жыл бұрын
The CTS V is far superior in performance and only marginally inferior in luxury. The f10 is 30k more than the cts and will cost 10x more to maintain down the road because of the bmw’s shitty reliability due to over engineering
@CamdZ06
14 жыл бұрын
BMW is only a better car by a very slim margin. Cadillac uses same interior materials, is faster, and prettier! BMW has better fit and finish. I was going to get an M5 but after researching maintenence issues i held back. M5s are for those who can afford them, CTS-V are for anyone!
@cooliebwoy415
15 жыл бұрын
CTS-V is an exception tho because it was tuned to handle the nurburgh track in Germany which is why its able to perform better track times than the M5. Im an audi fan my self so i wont hop on the cadi wagon yet because BMW is going to relaese a new M5 soon which will probally destroy the caddi with ease but for now in 2009 the caddi comes out on top in all aspects and BMW fans cant really say anything
@vernonprice5986
11 жыл бұрын
Is it a better all rounder car if the CTS-V handles better, rides better, accelerates better, has better steering, better suspension, better brakes as well as dual mode magnetic suspension for better touring mode AND sport mode, as well as a significantly lower price? The M5 is not a better driver's car, that's kind of the entire point. I know BMW wants you to believe that nobody can ever make a better car than they do, but they're wrong. The CTS-V kicks its ass.
@vernonprice5986
11 жыл бұрын
Just so you know, I've pretty easily beaten an SMG-equipped E60 M5 in my completely stock CTS-V STATION WAGON with a 6-speed manual. So you are completely, 100% wrong about that.
@RODikUlus
15 жыл бұрын
With AMG having their normal AMG, and AMG Black Series Editions, a + division for Caddy wouldn't cheapen the brand. The demographics are the only thing that needs to be studied, but after the economy gets better. But with a Caddy, at this price, costing 20K or better less, with matching or better performance, Caddy does have the upper hand.
@zonapainter
15 жыл бұрын
The Porsche Panamera doesnt even belong in this debate. You could buy 2 CTS_V's with change left over, or a M5 and a 335 for the cost of the Panamera. $135,000.
@combatarmsmaniac
3 жыл бұрын
The cts v Was way cheaper than the m5 new now almost 10 years later its worth more. Tells ya all u need to know
@vernonprice5986
11 жыл бұрын
Yeah I've driven the V10 M5. It's a nice car, but it lacks torque and it's not as sharp or as fun to drive. And frankly the suspension isn't as good at absorbing bumps mid-corner, it's less stable.
@kirayamatoikimas
11 жыл бұрын
The E60 M5 doesn't have the engine sounds piped into the cabin.
@pontiacGXPfan
4 жыл бұрын
It does now
@blue03r6
15 жыл бұрын
the cady has 6 piston brembo calipers. it should have the superior brakes if used with the proper pads and master cylinder. I like bmw cars especially the m3 and m5 but I like the cts-v. finally gm is showing it can build decent cars. people will buy them if they would just build them.
@pontiacGXPfan
4 жыл бұрын
Cadillac= American BMW BMW= German 1980s Cadillac
@BlackDreadBoy
15 жыл бұрын
excellent depiction of both vehicles that cadi is a BEAST though
@Out2theIndoors
6 жыл бұрын
Funny. Go check out the black 2009 cts-v that motorweek tested on its own without the bmw. It ran the same from 0-60 but a 12.7@115 instead of 12.5@118
@baehr2486
Жыл бұрын
Yeah some ppl can’t drive for shit, it’s done under a 12.4 completely stock
@e92mSport
12 жыл бұрын
@GTO19020 I dont know what your saying the Porsche panamera turbo is the fastest 4 door sedan in the world and it is faster around the ring then the V.
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