A mistake I’ve seen people make is thinking that there is a separate amateur and professional reputation, when actually you just have your reputation. If you behave poorly at gigs that aren’t paid that reputation will eventually reach the people booking gigs that _are_ paid and it will cost you.
@ricardodubatti657
10 сағат бұрын
In my band we have a motto: "Always be the artist that you would like to work with; always". Great video, as usual.
@matthewbeckwith663
9 сағат бұрын
That's a great motto!!
@edwardmooneyhan1928
8 сағат бұрын
Last show I drummed I reached out to every band and let them know they could backline my kit, as I was the final act that night. Made everyone's life easier.
@johnjacobs4704
11 сағат бұрын
Glad you added the body of water exemption to the no shorts rule. I play a lot of Florida (really hot) beach gigs in the summer and it’s hard to concentrate on music when you’re uncomfortable and excessive sweat on your instrument can impact technique and fans create unnecessary noise on microphones. Also, unsolicited advice for budding coastal musicians-wipe your gear down after every show. Salt and sand are the enemy (yes sand is in the air somehow lol)
@ileutur6863
8 сағат бұрын
Here's an example of a band behaving perfectly fine, but in the wrong context - This prog band local to me recently invested in a full digital amp rack and in ear monitoring system, while still touring local 100-200 capacity venues. They thought they were being professional and forward thinking, but instead they were met with hundreds of small time sound guys who don't know how to work with that system. So now their gigs sound like unmixed garbage despite them being top tier players and no bands want to tour with them because their setup takes up the entire soundcheck and disrupts all the other connections on stage.
@jason.braatz
3 сағат бұрын
As a guy in a new band with a brand new IEM rig hearing stuff like this bums me out. My plan is to over-communicate with the venues beforehand, have a backup plan, and not force it if it seems like the sound guy at the venue is unfamiliar. It's such a huge downgrade in our ability to put on a good show, though.
@Kyle_Noonan
12 сағат бұрын
Great stuff as always. I think you handled this topic really well. One thing worth noting too is how people get dressed down when they goof up. I've had people do it publicly, and people who have had the grace to pull me aside and do it privately and definitely find the latter more effective. Treat people how you want to be treated folks!
@kwyatt261
11 сағат бұрын
Thanks Phil. Understanding this stuff is harder than learning and playing songs for me. I have a hunch that I may be a little autistic lol. I can sit in my room and learn jazz standards by ear, but knowing what all the other people seem to know in public settings can seem impossible for me. Like I'm just seeking approval and conformity of how, what, where and why of everything gig related so I don't seem like an alien or something.
@user-wr4vn5gd5x
8 сағат бұрын
Love your point about people's expectations of your playing based on the gear you bring. As an amateur bass player who's always struggled with "spending just a little more" to get the better/best equipment, I'll fully acknowledge that my playing (currently) does not warrant the type of gear I fantasize about, so this really hit home.
@hankjansen5544
13 сағат бұрын
Wake ‘n’ bass!
@howardbwade
9 сағат бұрын
Great stuff Philip! Another slight variation within a band - band members that don’t pull their weight with gear. I had a band mate who repeatedly didn’t show up in time to schlep gear and help set up. He’s a great guitarist and still a good friend. When we confronted him he denied that he did this. That band no longer exists. I do have a slight disagreement with learning songs in rehearsals. It depends. In my current band we like to learn the songs as a group whether original or cover. We’ll start with a rough sketch of the tune and slowly work it up over a number of rehearsals. We will then work on our own to really learn the parts but we get the tune pretty far along as a group from scratch. It’s kind of a special case I suppose. In this case the band is a unit rather than a frontman with backup musicians. The result over years with this particular band is that we have developed a unique band sound.
@ckturvey
2 сағат бұрын
One rule I follow is "Don't bring new (or new to you) gear to the gig". If you haven't used a particular amp, guitar, pedal, etc. at a rehearsal, don't use it for the 1st time at a gig. it introduces too many variables.
@eggy68
11 сағат бұрын
Your interludes are giving me strong Martin Denny vibes. Nice!
@paul_solis
6 сағат бұрын
Baddest hang: Causing damage to people’s eardrums. I’m looking at you guitarists!
@Jesse615
10 сағат бұрын
I am totally Team Ringo! You do not mess with Mr. Starkey.
@michaeledmondsonrock
Сағат бұрын
Play shoe gaze but don't actually shoe gaze. Got it!
@Skidlick
2 сағат бұрын
I really enjoy your videos. Thank you
@owenandrew8108
2 сағат бұрын
i usually try to abide by the no shorts rule, however, if its an outdoor gig and im playing in 90 degree weather with little to no breeze/fans, im wearing shorts.
@scottkidwell3601
34 минут бұрын
Overall, I think the good hang involves being professional, being prepared, being kind, and being respectful. Also, remember to take care of your personal hygiene. Good video, Philip! Be good to you 🙏🏻🤍
@AdamMalster
12 сағат бұрын
Way on board with your point about the engineer sneaking delay on the vocal. We were recording once and the engineer sneaked chorus onto my guitar. Now, this is just my particular taste but God, I hate chorus, and that was a transgression.
@WhatJeanWants
8 сағат бұрын
This was a great video and lesson! You nailed it all!! At the moment, I can’t think of anything you missed, except maybe just one - the tip jar. My cover used a big empty Cheez Balls plastic container, and I always kept a dollar bill taped inside as a primer. People almost always tipped nicely. And sometimes the bar owner would grab our tip jar and rally the audience to tip even more. We always really appreciated that! Thanks for the great video!!
@mikesatawake2277
8 сағат бұрын
My only deal with Snark tuners is when they don't turn down to tune. I'd rather people use a pedal so they can mute. Just a pet peeve. Enjoy your vids!
@JDXTHEKID
12 сағат бұрын
Not mentioning other acts is DEFINITELY a red card
@georgejager7595
9 сағат бұрын
Lot's of great advice, applies to a lot of normal life situations too. As to the iPad, I only disagree because my memory is a pile of garbage and it helps me out to stay on track (pun intended). I still work at making eye contact with the band members and the audience, the better I practice the song at home the less I need the iPad, but it just doesn't work for me without...and I do the sound for our band, so being able to make a quick adjust and then make sure I don't lose my place the iPad works for me. Love the work and your humble but confident approach to teaching and commenting.
@desmondmyers
6 сағат бұрын
Great stuff here!
@thomasfaraone4213
13 сағат бұрын
another thing on gear, especially the guitar and bass players… make sure your electronics work. if your vollume/tone knob is scratchy, fix it before the show. sure it’s fine in practice, but it will be super annoying to hear during the show for everyone. Also, know your audience. if you play rock/punk covers and your local village asks you to play the main stage for the 2-3pm slot at the annual village celebration, the LAST thing you need to do is go “hey, we are a punk band. F*** the police!” There is a time and a place to play Punk Rocks greatest hits AND act like a punk band but that’s not one of them.
@ericschuppert9011
8 сағат бұрын
Thanks Phillip! Valuable information.
@SorenJohnsonGuitar
11 минут бұрын
the dress code / no shorts and flip-flops. FACTS!!!!! this is one of my biggest pet peeves. Unless it's like an indie band where it is part of the bit to wear shorts and flipflops and it's the whole band.
@dulzura20
6 сағат бұрын
Another green room rule would be to not try and recruit/steal members from other bands. Take a number a discuss later, but at the gig is really low class. And vice-versa. Don't try stealing another musician's gig while talking to another band's leader.
@johncox2552
59 минут бұрын
“It’s better to be thought stupid than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.”
@tiohunt6788
10 сағат бұрын
Amazing video! Thanks for it, really informative
@admarhermans1
9 сағат бұрын
Great subject! Brings back both (very) funny and not so funny memories 😄.
@MrRawnch
4 сағат бұрын
I get depressed every time I work with an originals band that doesn't promote their music but turns to overplayed covers to draw attention. Most bands don't play covers well and fail to recognize that dedicated tribute bands have those catalogs on lock. Nobody wants to bust their butts to work on parts for a song to ultimately drop it because there's a weak link. Play to your strengths and be proud of your work.
@joannalewis5279
8 сағат бұрын
Thanks so helpful
@stevecox4534
2 сағат бұрын
I loved it for some reason.
@artbehrman7712
8 сағат бұрын
A video of Sunny Day Real Estate performing 7 on the Jon Stewart show back in the early 90s popped up on my Instagram feed yesterday…. Gotta say, Nate Mendel’s shorts didn’t ruin it for me. I hear you though…
@1xayekim
4 сағат бұрын
Over the years I have learned that if a player talks trash or uses terms like "overrated" about bands, genres or players they are going to cause the drama and conflict and they are nothing more than a liability both internally and externally to your band because its just a matter of time before they say the wrong thing to the wrong person either inside or outside of the band. Its not high school any more bud, your opinions have consequences.
@ileutur6863
4 сағат бұрын
So you want ass kissers is what I'm getting from this.
@dylanjastle
8 сағат бұрын
I’d add a couple things: Playing too long when you’re an opener or part of a multi-band lineup. Even as a headliner, not reading the room and noticing when you’re playing too long. Social and situational awareness. If you play an instrument that is only played intermittently throughout the song or the set, not vibing with the song when you’re not playing. Messing around on stage without regard to the energy and vibe of the song. Also kills the energy and the professionalism/presentation of the song.
@dylanjastle
8 сағат бұрын
Also, acting like you’re playing an arena show when you’re only playing to 10 people who barely want to be there. Be aware of the crowd vibe at DIY shows, respect people and be thankful for their presence
@artbehrman7712
8 сағат бұрын
I’m pro snark, but a drummer friend I play with equates leaving the snark on all the time with boating with the bumpers left on. Sure, you can do it but it’s bad form. I think his ocd is showing.
@atldeadhead
4 сағат бұрын
Great video Phillip. Not sure if this fits or not but it’s a big pet peeve for me. If you are a keyboard player please be mindful of your left hand and your sound reinforcement. I’ve played with keyboard players who are smack dab in my frequency range with their left hand parts. One of them also played through a Hartke bass amp for Pete’s sake! Why have a string bassist in the band if the keys are playing all the bass parts. 😂
@riverbankfrank4896
2 сағат бұрын
Other than some of the more serious red cards, I’d say you should be flexible on the others and dont be a snob or stickler. We can keep all these rules in mind but in reality we only fully learn these things in practice. If someone in another band forgets a cable, lend one to them, and allow yourself to be approachable for help & advice. Chances are you’ve been that person and its likely you will be again.
@tylerlennon9955
7 сағат бұрын
If I told my ska band no flip flops or shorts they’d probably show up in them anyway and our drummer would still be wearing a dress
@MordecaiSoup7
13 сағат бұрын
Early morning video let’s goooooo
@jimorgain63
8 сағат бұрын
back line they take the opening drummer hostage, bring decoy kit, or crappy drums lol
@matthewbeckwith663
9 сағат бұрын
Lol, Team Snark....I thought you were going to discuss snarky attitudes. I dont understand the taboo of clip on tuners, though I suspect it's an image thing: "only garage bands and bar band noobs use though." The thing is, I don't think anyone in the audience (other than musicians) gives a dang! I use a pedal tuner for it's a muting ability, but I have a clip-in tuner handy as a backup.
@compucorder64
11 сағат бұрын
Volume Flexing where a musician overpowers all the other musicians with excessive volume is one. For example, the lead guitarist that brings the full 100W Marshall stack, cranks it, then proceeds to blast the crowd, and bulldoze the rest of the band, regardless of the drummers Jazz Kit, the other guitarist's Princeton, the bassists Ampeg V-4b. Otherwise, one of the worst performances I saw like that was the otherwise great band Best Coast. The singer Bethany Cosentino got angry with the sound engineer and even the crowd, heckling us. But we couldn't really hear her properly. And taking her frustrations out on the engineer, and the crowd, left a very bad impression. That said, I know she struggled a lot with problematic drinking in those years, which she dealt with later. So, that goes to one of your other points on inebriation. But that gig was 3 red cards, plus a bad performance - albeit probably because of sound issues - but maybe that wasn't the only major issue there. Another red card for me is showing visible dissappointment with the size/makeup of the crowd or venue. You should respect the people that actually paid and made the effort to come and see your show.
@JustinSpam
11 сағат бұрын
Thumbs up for no flip flops on stage
@kevinsavo718
6 сағат бұрын
Grateful Dead
@yesitsles1
6 сағат бұрын
Not done with the video yet so maybe you get there, but minor offenses compound. I play with a guy who is slightly too picky with his monitor mix, but not enough that I would really care. What is actually annoying is in combination with that, he’s always the last one on stage. Not “late” exactly, just last. Either one of those things in isolation wouldn’t be a problem but both of them together drives me nuts.
@yesitsles1
6 сағат бұрын
Haha. Just got to the part where you make this exact point
@MrRawnch
4 сағат бұрын
Flip flops and Shorts on Stage: Flip flops are a no-no for safety reasons. Too many trip hazards and heavy equipment on stage. Shorts are ok if your playing outside in 90 degree weather with no cover from the sun. If shorts are an option make sure they fit the style of the band.
@jimorgain63
8 сағат бұрын
wow you may save us, rveryone i know regardless of inteument wants to be the guitar player, we lose so many great bass players and drummers to this guitar sickness, i have it, play guitar for hours, not ant good but its difficult and frustrating, apealing somehow
@ileutur6863
8 сағат бұрын
Aside from the parts about basic human decency, a lot of these points are very genre or gig specific. Nobody will care if you're wearing shorts or playing backing tracks at a metal show for example. A snark tuner left on the headstock always looks amateurish though.
@Lakefield_
10 сағат бұрын
People are bothered by snarks? Just watched a couple of shows by Khruangbin on YT. They always had tuners on the headstock and i can see why you want that, if you are going for the perfect sound of your performance.
@nikulas91
9 сағат бұрын
The noodling during sound check/or while people are talking drives me nuts…. Checking your amp/getting a sound, I totally understand but just noodling just to noodle drives me up the wall
@swconnexion
7 сағат бұрын
sorry, what are "snarks" ?
@fudgesauce
3 сағат бұрын
It is a popular, inexpensive brand of clip on tuners. They are like $15 and work well enough to get the job done.
@SaviorMoney-777
5 сағат бұрын
Glad the Grateful Dead, or any of the real punk bands didn't have rules to being "professional." 😂
@charlieclifford8965
4 сағат бұрын
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@coryburns13
4 сағат бұрын
I don’t care how beautiful musician somebody is if they act like Axl Rose, they are out!
@johncox2552
47 минут бұрын
The list of women who are amazing players is incredibly long. I will never understand that attitude.
@MrLouisianaHayride
11 сағат бұрын
I always laughed at the guys who think women can't play guitar. Charo for example. She can outplay the vast majority of the guys who think women are somehow lesser musicians.
@MatthewSwasta
12 сағат бұрын
Completely agree with these topics, though I somewhat disagree with the on stage complaining thing based on one experience. At a Jesu/ISIS show in Salt Lake City, way back in 2010 or so, two clowns in the audience were trying to mosh during the ISIS set, much to everyone else's disapproval. My wife tugged my arm a few times, telling me, "don't do it!" I was so thankful when Aaron Turner stopped playing in the middle of a song, pointed, and said, "chill out assholes!!!" and off they went into their sulking corners. Not really a complaint as it was more of a command. The crowd erupted in approval. I wish someone would do red cards for American audiences...they SUCK. It's like in post-COVID, shows are for networking now and it's hard to find a respectful audience, both to the bands and other audience members who are really trying to experience the set, and not another's' drama or working conversation. At a Jinjer show, I really wished ill will on the singer of an opening band, spitting water over all those in the frontlines of the audience...I hate bands that disrespect or denigrate the headliners audience, even if it's part of their schtick. I love RINGO! Oh hell, the couch analogy!!!🤣🤣 I also love Squier as well...
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