Love your vids LBNinja, thank you. An idea for a set of videos I have not seen while searching on youtube, is short form (5min?) mythic+ dungeon guides from the healer's perspective of what you need to know in each dungeon. Notable trash, boss mechanics, required dispel/cleanse, or anything you think is required knowledge for a healer to succeed in that dungeon.
@perkulant4629
9 күн бұрын
Rescue a stray caster/hunter into dream breath solves all my issues. If you keep doing it they usually get the message also.
@LBNinja7
9 күн бұрын
This is big facts lol. They respond more to being physically airlifted than they do to a simple "hey do you mind scooting in a bit"
@Poisonieer
8 күн бұрын
@@LBNinja7"Hey do you mind scooting" is a 1st-3rd "MOVE YOU DUMB SOB" is the last 2 pulls of a dungeon after you have used it on CD every time with the same hunter. Or is that just me.
@NorthernHarker
9 күн бұрын
“If someone takes a big slam of damage, all of a sudden you can rapture and get a giant shield on them” ah yes, we’re shielding people AFTER they’re damaged. Also mentioning how good regrowth feels to cast? This video is a mess dawg
@PhoTC
9 күн бұрын
if they take a random spike of damage, yes you can use rapture to get that giant shield on them as the unavoidable group wides come out. It makes sense. And regrowth feels good to cast because it's not a limp noodle. Y'all take shit WAY too seriously. Make your own video you nerd
@sammygreco
3 күн бұрын
Well yeah, if they're not one-shotted, then slamming a fat shield on them allows you time to keep doing average group heals or focus on other urgent matters while the shield persists. Ideally, shielding is better to do before damage, but if they're even on 1% HP, then the fat shield will save them from any further damage to set them over the edge of death. As long as everyone is above 1hp, you're doing your job as a healer.
@jasonweiss3160
9 күн бұрын
The only pug carry is shammy. Next tier is monk, pally, and evoker. Next tier is Druid and holy priest. Disc priest is unplayable for pugging. Holy priest has insane damage if you know how to play it; the lack of interrupt really hurts them from climbing the list.
@Miguel-ki4kr
8 күн бұрын
I returned to holy priest after not playing for quite a bit and tinkered around and they do insane aoe damage especially how large pulls are going.
@x0habiib0x
3 күн бұрын
If disc priests went from best damage dealing healers to worst healers AND also not the best damage dealers….the design philosophy has failed.
@moldgrim1
10 күн бұрын
An idea for a video would be how to heal different tanks in m+. I'm a retired healer, now prot warrior, and I see healing from a different perspective in my new role. You seem to have a grasp on most healing specs, so your insight would be appreciated in that sense.
@hanzomain8302
9 күн бұрын
I agree
@JizzyNinja
9 күн бұрын
Interesting idea! I’m always thinking of that when a PUG starts - would also be good to analyze tank skill level after the first couple pulls after noticing certain behaviors.
@LBNinja7
9 күн бұрын
I love this concept! I really want to see if I can partner with an experienced tank to make this type of video that much better!
@Zaeylo
9 күн бұрын
I don’t know if im only getting bad ones or im missing certain tech but having such a hard time healing brewmasters on mistweaver. Other tanks i only need mist on them but i have to pump on brewmasters.
@styled322
9 күн бұрын
quazii wow, a tank youtuber, has a video about how to heal each tank. worth a look
@Estarianne2000
9 күн бұрын
Gearing monk, prevoker, and shaman (totemic) the prevoker and shaman have pulled out a few fights I thought were unsavable (tanks pulling too much for the group) by just cranking burst hps. I've been trying to play monk without soothing mist but that makes it a lot harder to rescue people lol.
@Amyas80s
3 күн бұрын
Playing a healer in Wow used to make a difference and be fun. Now, this game has tons of bursts, and it feels like a 90s arcade button mash vest.
@perkulant4629
9 күн бұрын
Halo archon holy priest plus lightweaver and Pom pumps hps. I’ve had tanks going crazy in priory and hitting 800k hps easy without archon.
@mortix02
10 күн бұрын
Regrowth feels really good to cast? Yes, that's why I'm playing a resto druid. To spam cast a single target heal. Basically a holy priest with set up.
@perkulant4629
9 күн бұрын
Druid feels wank now imo.
@Nifuji_TTV
9 күн бұрын
If you run a convoke build wild wildstalker you do not cast regrowth as often as the KOTG build
@derkaman123123
9 күн бұрын
Why are you so mad lmao, you HAVE to have hots up or else regrowth will do negative healing lmao stop crying
@Nifuji_TTV
9 күн бұрын
@@derkaman123123 he was just saying spamming regrowth is not a fun playstyle, which it isn’t lmao
@ConeyIslandKing
9 күн бұрын
@@Nifuji_TTV convoke has no interaction with wildstalker
@Huntamin77
9 күн бұрын
As strong as pres is I feel like there’s no way they should be listed as a “pug carry” ESPECIALLY with ranged dps that don’t understand how pres heals. I’ve had pugs where the ranged dps stand as far away as possible in the worst spots and it makes it near impossible to heal them well, and get pissed if I try to explain to them that it would be much better if they stood closer to the group.
@LBNinja7
9 күн бұрын
Yeah I really did consider not putting them in the tier because of this, but I really do think they do enough healing and have enough tools to overcome this now. That being said, I agree that you could just knock them down a tier and the list looks fine too, or even swap them with something like holy paladin!
@TiommQQ
9 күн бұрын
Just tell range dps to stand between u and the tank. I a a macro a the beginning of dungeon 😂
@Aggrofool
8 күн бұрын
Pres has the tool to deal with pug standing in Africa, and it's on a 3 min CD
@thalesrocha1533
6 күн бұрын
Of course you can carry a pug with preservation, it never runs out of a strong cooldown
@bryancomer1984
8 күн бұрын
you are probably the only other almost exclusively pug healer i know out there. I dont usually push super far because a certain level it starts to become very.....lets say difficult. I have portals from pretty much any dungeon that was on rotation in the past 2 expansions, but i absolutely never try to push past that point, just fun to see this. I did all of shadowlands as a smattering of druid tank or resto druid, roughly 80% in pugs, but with the healing/stamina changes that DF launched with, soemthing about druid no longer clicked with me, and i went back to my main from legion (mistweaver) and was much much more confident, and thats where i am at still, i do think theres a ton of interesting stuff coming for mistweaver, but just wanted to give you props for taking what i also do to the next level. PS - you are the only other person making content like this that sees mastery as good for mistweaver, and i have felt it was massively underused in the last patch of dragonflight, partially because the power of secondaries for it kinda went nuts, but i do think it still holds potential for being one of the most important stats for a MW, especially in M+. I remember realizing this when i used the Neltharus caster trinket with a mastery proc and chiji up, it was a 100% full group heal every single BOK. Would be dope to return to that
@ncckna
9 күн бұрын
Oh, okay. I see what you're saying.. so every healing should be able to be accepted into any group. Good to know!
@MRPC5
9 күн бұрын
I thought hpriest was in a rough spot until I switched to oracle. Swapping out divine image for divine word, plus having premonition, feels like you can have a cd running all the time. Using a wa to track preminition makes it way easier.
@vanguelisk
9 күн бұрын
try lightweaver too!
@deusaiurs1669
9 күн бұрын
Evoker is awesome. Love this heal. I really don't Like any other heal atm. To Play Evoker is a other Level.
@Slushybear405
9 күн бұрын
Gotta say evoker will never be a pug carry. The range means they can never be top tier without communication.
@mathoras1056
8 күн бұрын
Maybe a video on the ability of each healing class to do damage? In a pug, in a preformed, as part of a normal rotation (like mistweaver), or only when heals are under control (like resto druid)
@Linknla
7 күн бұрын
Man, people in the comment section REALLY don’t like holy priests, yeesh, didn’t realize we were so hated. Enjoying Oracle, living my new eyes! Re: kick- while I get that we don’t have that utility, I honestly don’t want a kick, it’s something else to manage and as a healer trying to pick and focus mobs it’s not easy because my focus is players. I’d rather have a brez or mass dispel prenerf. These are abilities that enhance what I already do.
@diatomaton
8 күн бұрын
I think one thing worth mentioning too, I only played shaman / monk so far and am leaning toward the monk just because I think it is more fun, but mana management / efficiency might be worth factoring in. Totemic kind of sticks out where if not played correctly it can drain mana quickly, if there are longer boss fights I can see them struggling, farseer though is really good but kind of lacks on the aoe healing throughput.
@LazarusRisen
9 күн бұрын
I dunno, on my Oracle H priest I feel like most stuff is a breeze. The amount of emergency heals at my disposal, all while being ranged. Additionally, premonition of piety acts like the seedling, I just pump all my heals into myself and it redistributes 90% (buffed version) all over healing into allies instead.
@demoncleaner80
9 күн бұрын
Agreed. Also IMO Oracle Disc feels kinda like a cheat too. I mean.... we're only doing Heroics now until Tuesday so we'll see... but, Premonition into instant cast PW: Radiance to throw Atonement on my group quick, if you time it well for a trash mod you can Death execute it and basically heal everyone for their entire bars
@SuacoRV
9 күн бұрын
H priest is like resto shaman without all the utility. H priest is and will always be a strong healer but it just bring much else to the table.
@jeremyguzman7936
9 күн бұрын
H priest output its amazing, I mean they can certainly heal, but it lacks the utility needed for pugs
@LazarusRisen
9 күн бұрын
@@SuacoRV Yeah I agree. I guess my thought process is in a PUG environment, I am expecting very little from the other players and I need to be able to heal through dumb. I always find utility gets stronger the more co-ordinated a group is.
@Msaber2012
7 күн бұрын
I really enjoyed your mistweaver video. Hopefully you'll make one for Holy Pallys.
@tksilent
9 күн бұрын
dont have to apologize we want all the tier lists!!!!
@LBNinja7
9 күн бұрын
!!!
@gureidens61
9 күн бұрын
Interesting tier list, thumbs up!
@LBNinja7
9 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@toxicfrogs7474
9 күн бұрын
Grats on 10k subs man.
@LBNinja7
9 күн бұрын
Thank you so much! It still feels surreal!
@Sarandosil
9 күн бұрын
Alas I've been playing with the non-existent mistweaver hero tree. Is it really that bad haha
@tomykulak7728
9 күн бұрын
I prefer discipline oracle full shields build. You know they stand in some crap, bam shield for half of their hp. Also makes it nice for higher keys when people dont know what defensive is so you basically make them not take a oneshot.
@LBNinja7
9 күн бұрын
Yeah I also really liked the shield from oracle but it always felt bad when you needed it and you weren't cycled to it :/
@csnoremac1
Күн бұрын
Aaaaand holy paladin grts the nerf.....sheeeesh shitdammit
@dylan24848
9 күн бұрын
Idk I pug to around 3.2-3.4 IO on my disc priest every season. It’s not that hard and it’s only gotten better with hero talents
@LBNinja7
9 күн бұрын
Pffff I need to get some coaching from you then because my blood pressure still hasn't recovered from pushing on it season 3 🤣 big props to you for that because that's actually a big flex lol
@dylan24848
9 күн бұрын
@@LBNinja7 it definitely gets easier the higher in keys you get, people understand disc priest on a more Fundamental lvl and will actively try to cc/kick mobs knowing you can’t. Fear does work some of the time too. At least in my experience. Also with dracthyr getting priest, we now have access to a knock up and back and a little extra mobility with glide/soar as much as I hate the dragon, probably gonna be the play going forward.
@vanguelisk
8 күн бұрын
@@dylan24848 that cc is only 3 min cd .You can disable dragon form.
@alecfair
5 күн бұрын
@dylan24848 i feel this on a spiritual level. Part of me wants to swap to the dragon for those, but also....dragon lol. Our cc toolkit is rough beyond the fear. I think voidweaver should have been given some kind of hard cc or void tendrils. But that's just me.
@dylan24848
5 күн бұрын
@@alecfair yeah the only healer I’ve never really played is pres and it’s simply because dragon lol the little of pres I’ve played was insanely fun but I refuse to play it lol yeah a kick would be great for disc. The cc toolkit of priest is awful but I also kind of enjoy like not having to worry about kicking things sometimes 🤣
@arlenenolte8475
9 күн бұрын
I'm a sucker for tier lists lol
@LBNinja7
9 күн бұрын
You and me both tbh! I miss watching them, maybe that's why I love making them!
@joevinlund6041
10 күн бұрын
Disc Priest Needs Spirit shield needs to be Back. Disc is trash!
@kroneexe
9 күн бұрын
A sponsor let’s goooooo
@LBNinja7
9 күн бұрын
!!!! Let's gooooo!!!! Look mom we made it!!!
@captaincookie3327
8 күн бұрын
Pretty cool
@Yuu-and-mi
7 күн бұрын
As main holy priest, Im a bit insulted by you using the general priest icon as holy priest icon 😂 but disc gets their Real one 😢
@LBNinja7
7 күн бұрын
LOL It's just an outdated tiermaker list! I promise!
@Lyscian420
9 күн бұрын
Fun video, good insights and tips. If I made a pug Healer tier list, I would only have three tiers: healer I will happily invite (Rsham,Hpal monk) Healers with a kick that I would begrudgingly invite (pres) Healers with no kick whom I do not want to invite (every priest and rdruid.) :P
@JonathanAWrites
8 күн бұрын
If you’re against telling someone to not okay a healer then you probably shouldn’t have that as a category. Instead make it Go ahead at your own risk or just remove it as it’s pointless.
@LBNinja7
8 күн бұрын
I think it's important to actually say that every spec is playable and shouldn't be ignored, else someone would watch this, see a healer in the bottom tier and think they shouldn't play it. You know? Idk, that's just how I see it!
@uhohitsross12
9 күн бұрын
I'm not sure if I'm doing my healing wrong with my rshaman or if its the ilvl but man I can't seem to keep my group topped off even in heroics. It's a huge struggle.
@galaxy4750
9 күн бұрын
You're doing something VERY wrong, or running the wrong tree. I've seen under geared rshaman keep up with chain pulling no problem, while having a slight mana issue at time with the speed of pulling but aside from that, they're beyond strong right now.
@vanguelisk
9 күн бұрын
make sure to have riptides on the party during damage events
@TheGoldenAngel82
9 күн бұрын
Maybe try the passive build, maybe thats more your tea ^^ I find that very enjoyable myself.
@uhohitsross12
9 күн бұрын
Thanks for all of your inputs. I've been playing around with the Totemic Chain Heal builds. As you guys know tanks love to pull the whole room and by the time the rooms clear I'm out of mana and the group is only half healed.
@uhohitsross12
9 күн бұрын
@@TheGoldenAngel82 what passive build are you referring to :) ?
@Jaeno311
9 күн бұрын
Resto shaman is just SO SO boring
@mockep
10 күн бұрын
39 seconds ago is crazy :S
@daketh4572
8 күн бұрын
As disc i find VW boring, one dimensional and lacking after its ended. Ive been having a blast playing Oracle. 4 dark penances in a row is a lot of fun especially on the move, or piety with uppies
@LBNinja7
8 күн бұрын
Oooooo you do make it sound way more fun than when I tried it! Piety with uppies sounds very very cool!
@Aggrofool
8 күн бұрын
After the buffs, Disc is now contender for best organized top level key pushing. Just don't pug it.
@LBNinja7
8 күн бұрын
Oh for sure.
@thecozyplace1206
10 күн бұрын
Bro, my fresh lvl 80 shammy healer cannot do more than 100k heal per sec with ALL my CDs blown, all my mana spent and at the end everyone dies... Meanwhile, on my monk fistweaver, I just Stomp, then spam Spin kick and I have 300k-500k heal per sec. Can anyone explain to me what is going on?
@thecozyplace1206
10 күн бұрын
All in all, I feels like they destroyed the healer class this expansion. Nothing you do feels impactful. I, as a pure non-damage healer, HAVE to go do dps on the mobs to kill them faster because I know my heals are not good enough to pass through. And another little rant, I feel like Leech is so much better than having a healer tbh, felt like that when I played Shammy resto... they were healing themselves more than I could ever. And for FREE!!
@DanyhzVideos
10 күн бұрын
Then you must learn to play resto shaman. I consistently put 600-700k hps and 200k dps without any cds. Yesterday had to heal consistent 1.6M in the first pull of a dungeon because the tank went crazy, didn't even have to rest afterwards. Farseer > Totemic.
@perkulant4629
9 күн бұрын
@@thecozyplace1206what are you smoking all my healers can pump over a million hps with CDs in m+
@perkulant4629
9 күн бұрын
Learn to play shaman mate. Shaman is mega strong.
@tomykulak7728
9 күн бұрын
@@thecozyplace1206ur so wrong. Ive tried: Prevoker, HolyPala, Mistweaver at max lvl with around 560ilvl and on all of them have most abilities super impactful. Im talkiing 1milion hps in heroic dungeons when needed. Not the usual 300k-500k maintenance healing. Also for ur taste mistweaver + prevoker can be omega healbots without doing dmg and heal 1milion hps too. No need to be melee. Prevoker=Flameshaper and Mistweaver=Harmony
@Devonwilliams-zd1kc
9 күн бұрын
So far hunters have been the most annoying class to heal lmao they are so far out in narnia casting aim shot smh
@naft3R
8 күн бұрын
In my opinio. Evoker is not a pug carry because is not an easy class to play which means if you have 2 casters and they have no idea how evokers work you will be struggling like crazy. That's why evoker is perfect for melee meta makes it very simple to heal
@thalesrocha1533
6 күн бұрын
Wrong, evoker is one of the easiest healers, it has so much cooldown that you basically don't need to think much, there will always be one available.
@sram0425
9 күн бұрын
👋👋💪💪👋👋
@TheSometimeAfter
9 күн бұрын
This list is nonsensical You're confused by your own list...
@LBNinja7
9 күн бұрын
I am confusion
@sjc5411
9 күн бұрын
How is it nonsensical?
@DanyhzVideos
10 күн бұрын
"Holy Priest feels undertuned" And you place it in a category called "Strong but hard". The easiest healer that you called undertuned. Ok man lmao
@leondavies9735
9 күн бұрын
It’s not the easiest with oracle man
@codycurtin2295
9 күн бұрын
Holy priest is not the easiest, mistweaver and hpal are lmao
@22CKane
9 күн бұрын
Easy to sit there and spam heals when uncontested. Not easy to maximize its entire kit and carry a group.
@Lyscian420
9 күн бұрын
It’s has no kick and no poison/curse dispel. And it’s throughout it lower than other classes who have both.
@simonkrepela5046
9 күн бұрын
@@codycurtin2295 you just said the only two melee healers are the easiest in the current "antimelee" dungeons + paladin has holy power a resource that has to be managed on top of mana? What about resto shaman? I dont see anything hard to heal very high keys effectively with two buttons on top of having good pasive damage. Same with the holy priest, that just lacks damage and util to be played currently xd
@Prof.SchulzeSternberg
8 күн бұрын
You do not really play a healer, do you? You just seem to pretend to….
@LBNinja7
8 күн бұрын
Yeah every time I stream, it's not me playing. I just tell AI to make it look like I'm playing.
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