Thank you for testing the new g2 fans on the g1 heatsink, it's all I wanted to know!
@MachinesMore
2 ай бұрын
Happy to help!
@keyrast
2 ай бұрын
Thank you for review. I appreciate you for using Gen 2 fans with NH-D15 Gen1 as a gen1 owner . I like this channel a lot :)
@kwedl
2 ай бұрын
Even with the D15 G2, the Phantom Spirit 120 (EVO) is still the new aircooler benchmark imo. It outperforms the PA 120, basicly on par with the G2 while being way smaller than the G2 and all that for 1/3 the price.
@cavemantero
2 ай бұрын
I just found out about the Phantom Spirit yesterday. But remember this dude does the testtiing. At least give him props for it.
@shrillyy1604
2 ай бұрын
I really doubt that it could be close within 5c at same noise levels but d15 g2 will still be a fair bit better at everything. still only would get the d15 if money is no issue.
@kwedl
2 ай бұрын
@@cavemantero Where did i say anything about the testing. Obviously his tests and everyone elses are useful.
@kwedl
2 ай бұрын
@@shrillyy1604 Depends on the workload and the new PS120 EVO fans are a lot better than the usual PS120 fans. At 120W it heavily outperforms the G2 in noise to performance and it outperforms it in 250W load up to 66-68C°. Only once you get to 320W load the G2 will be ahead, but that makes sense. And even then you could technically use two NF-A12x25 on the PS120 and it will perform even better in terms of noise to performance and will still be 50 bucks cheaper than the G2. Noctua will of course always have the advantage of pretty much perfect customer serivce, free mounting brackets forever, free replacement parts etc.
@shrillyy1604
2 ай бұрын
@@kwedl kzitem.info/news/bejne/uHx8lox8q52Ap6Q kzitem.info/news/bejne/uWefx3WskKiKimk where did you get your results im seeing that even the v1 d15 still out performs the phantom evo 120. I could see the PSevo with a12s beating the u12a but not the d15 the d15 has so much more size and with the g2 now much more RnD.
@Nosbuiq
2 ай бұрын
I can’t wait for that Ghost R1 review 😭
@simoSLJ89
2 ай бұрын
7:57 Thanks man! Not even GN tried this! So I will keep my D15S Chromax, and update only the fan with the new Chromax, when it will be released.
@MachinesMore
2 ай бұрын
Is a great idea. If the D15S works for your needs already then the fan upgrade should net you enough benefit. The improved heatsink will yield more of a benefit with hotter chips ala 14900K levels.
@simoSLJ89
2 ай бұрын
@@MachinesMore cause I have a O11 XL, that cant't fit the G2...for 1mm!! :D
@MachinesMore
2 ай бұрын
If you have or can get lower profile RAM 165 is possible. 167 should be a-ok. But yeah with a fan upgrade you will be quite happy.
@avirtualworld4U
2 ай бұрын
I lov Air Coolers thanks for the demo.
@komm13
2 ай бұрын
R1 vs M2 ,when?????????
@vincentvega3093
2 ай бұрын
Finalised R1 in October
@danebeee1
2 ай бұрын
Seems to me like it won’t even be close. The m2 is infinitely more flexible and fits more hardware.
@natalie2070
2 ай бұрын
@@danebeee1it won’t fit the D15 G1 or G2 though.
@komm13
2 ай бұрын
@@natalie2070 do sff builders even think about these two though ?
@yanni-duff
2 ай бұрын
@@komm13 the people looking at these reference layout cases think about these things yes, the whole point of going 15-20L like with the CH160, NR200P etc. is increased hardware compatibility and potent aircooling. Having a small case that can fit the best aircooler of the market is a huge plus. Those that don't care wouldn't even consider cases this big.
@sparkplugbarrens
2 ай бұрын
Impressive! Still, a thermalright cooler costs just a fraction and gets you 99 % of the d15's performance.
@kerotomas1
2 ай бұрын
the phantom spirit performs the same as the d15 g2 so in fact it's 100% of the performance for 1/3rd the price
@kwedl
2 ай бұрын
@@kerotomas1 With te PS120 EVO with it's new fans it even outperforms the G2 up to 120 and 250W load in noise to performance, which is what most people out there will push their CPU to anyway. Only once you get to the 300W+ load it can't fully keep up with the G2, but the people who run constant 300W+ loads probably already have a huge AIO.
@gezimlimoni2319
2 ай бұрын
Great review as always, but still more than happy and for the long time with Fuma 2
@RXR25
2 ай бұрын
This is an insane combo!
@bobertbolero
Ай бұрын
I can't wait for the louqe r1 review! Love the simple all metal design this is almost perfect for me if it didn't have the rounded edges. Wish could see the silver color but I most likely will still order
@andrewvirtue5048
2 ай бұрын
They really didn't leave theirselves much to improve. They already made one of the best aircoolers possible with modern industry.
@colt6938
Ай бұрын
Would love to see you go into depth on this case like the NR200, it's a lot of work I understand but I think what Louqe achieved in a case smaller than the NR200 is great. Lot's of versatility with the fan and motherboard configs in that case too. Love the content!
@ashflame6888
Ай бұрын
Why dont you just look it up.... The case has had 4 billion fucking videos about it. USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION
@colt6938
Ай бұрын
@@ashflame6888where do you see 4 billion videos for the case that isn't even available to the public yet?
@RodimusPrime29
2 ай бұрын
Just got my coffee & bagel ready! Time to enjoy this vid.
@tsujimasen
2 ай бұрын
Ghost R1 vs NR200 thermals?
@sopek1427
Ай бұрын
Finally a no frills review.
@vasiovasio
2 ай бұрын
Super useful video! Thank you!
@Chad11491
2 ай бұрын
Looking forward to the R1 review. Is that color close to black in person, or is it more like the NR200P grey? It looks a lot more grey than black here. Thanks!
@MachinesMore
2 ай бұрын
It’s closer to the MAX gray. Very very similar to Sliger’s gray if you’ve seen that.
@Famouslastplace
29 күн бұрын
replaced my h100i with this. idle temps went from 60 to 45C. 7800x3d. I'm happy now. I did accidentally buy the offset plates twice. They came with the cooler.
@serban2139
5 күн бұрын
Why did you have idle temps of 60? That's a problem you have to fix through other means than changing your CPU cooler?
@fffhunter7765
Ай бұрын
Well that was interesting to watch
@ThicccJim
Ай бұрын
me stopping the video to stare at the Ghost R1
@NGreedia
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for including g1 fans on g2 heatsink. Other reviewers haven’t included that for testing. I still think even if I were willing to pay more for a premium cooler, I’d likely go for the Dark Rock elite and I can get it for around half the price of the d15 g2 when it’s on sale and noctua never goes on sale. Phantom Spirit Evo is also amazing not only for performance and price but it looks really nice as well. Would be interesting to see if the nf-a12x25 fans provide a similar delta on the g1 vs g2 heatsink
@charonme
Ай бұрын
did the denser fins cause the the new G2 to be less efficient at very low airflow when compared using the same fans?
@AngryChineseWoman
2 ай бұрын
Nock Tuah, spit on that thang !
@weirdodude1173
2 ай бұрын
Awesome, thanks!!
@JustCarnivorousCupcake
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the detailed and informative video! The cost of this is about double of what I paid for an arctic lf3 240, so I'm gonna pass on this xD
@jamesm568
Ай бұрын
Expensive as they are cheaper alternatives out there, but I will still pick Noctua due to its solid reputation. Now this air cooler might be overkill for a budget build.
@thedeegee1601
Ай бұрын
So this is going to fit in a O11 Dynamic with 167mm clearance just fine. As my current D15 with heatsink covers allows me to fit my pinky in between the cover and the glass.
@Violet-ui
2 ай бұрын
What kind of magic is Thermalright using? A very cheap 120mm cooler competing with one of the biggest and the most expensive 140mm cooler there is. TR is the undisputed king of air coolers right now
@Violet-ui
2 ай бұрын
It's not even the PS120, which is better. That's absolutely crazy.
@FilthEffect
2 ай бұрын
Ye Thermalright are unstoppable
@krazyfrog
2 ай бұрын
All the magic seems to be in their base plate. They have found a curvature that works brilliantly across Intel and AMD without resorting to gimmicks or additional hardware.
@v0ldy54
2 ай бұрын
Simply there is just that much heat you can extract from a given CPU size, regardless of the size of the fans there are just that many heat pipes and cm² of contact area you can have over the CPU, that's why you need liquid if you really want to see a steap up in performance.
@DrBreezeAir
2 ай бұрын
I'm considering getting a new fan for my 10-yearold U14S.
@MachinesMore
2 ай бұрын
I assume the fan still runs?
@Pamani_
2 ай бұрын
Don't buy a single fan for the price of a new dual tower cooler.
@MY-qi8wq
2 ай бұрын
@@Pamani_ The dual tower cooler is cheaper than a single fan for a reason... they cheap out on the fans, by a lot, especially so on the bearings. If you highly prioritize reliability and acoustics, grabbing the A14x25r G2 is a good idea.
@DrBreezeAir
2 ай бұрын
@@MachinesMore It does. Flawlessly.
@DrBreezeAir
2 ай бұрын
@@Pamani_ The current one served me on three systems. I’d think of it as a long-term investment so to speak.
@beeexotic9605
Ай бұрын
When can we expect the review of the case ?
@sunefred
2 ай бұрын
@MachinesMore How about a build stream with the Louqe Ghost R1? I would watch =)
@gezimlimoni2319
Ай бұрын
I'm planning these days to upgrade from AM4 to AM5 with 7800x3d....my Fuma 2 is the model SCFM-2000, please, is this model fully compatible with AM5? I appreciate any of your reply!
@krazyfrog
2 ай бұрын
I feel like instead of having three versions and confusing customers, they should have just made the standard version and provided offset mount for AMD users and a contact frame for Intel users, like Arctic does.
@brah_ddah
2 ай бұрын
I hate to say it. The G2 arrives at the market looking like an old design. I’m sure it will be among the best performers easily-but it does look dated IMO. They took so long they allowed tower cooler design language to meaningfully change before coming to market
@danebeee1
2 ай бұрын
I would not say am5 is “on its last leg” at all. 15:16 Am5 is guaranteed to be supported until at least 2027 and zen 6.
@MachinesMore
2 ай бұрын
Indeed- I am referring to AM4 and LGA1700. Offset AM5 works best with the standard version. So the LBC is really just ideal for AM4, and HBC for LGA1700- with that in mind those are phasing out so users getting either version may not get the best performance out of whatever they choose next.
@danebeee1
2 ай бұрын
@@MachinesMore sure I would agree when it comes to am4 or lg 1700.
@cavemantero
2 ай бұрын
all that work for around ~1 degree Celsius difference? You da man.
@MachinesMore
2 ай бұрын
Glad you appreciate it. I figure if you’re the target market for the D15, you probably care for the fractions of a degree.
@justanobody4983
Ай бұрын
“Noctua said the wait will not be very long” for the chromax. Yeah thats what they said 2020 with this cooler. Lol. Not gonna hold my breath.
@alexfrost8645
2 ай бұрын
Any idea if the gen 1 chromax would fit in the case with the chromax heat sink covers on, in the Loque R1 ?
@lordbencho
Ай бұрын
Where do the SSDs get installed?
@kawaii-sosu
Ай бұрын
imo, R1 colour looks unappealing. it’s as boring grey as you can imagine, at least from the video. if M2 grater was not simply a plot of imagination, but an actual buyable product, louqe R1 would be nearly irrelevant to me.
@v0ldy54
2 ай бұрын
Can't see a reason for why that cooler would make sense, it's just too expensive when for the same price you can get liquid coolers that vastly outperform it, which negates the biggest advantage of air collers (price to performance). If one really doesn't want to go liquid you can get something that will have a 3-4°C difference for half the price or probably even less, and it's probably going to go head to head with the new 140mm from Thermalright.
@stephancardenas-navarro127
2 ай бұрын
So even when the specs of the NH-D15 G2 say 168mm max height, it fits in the 165mm max height of the Ghost R1?
@MachinesMore
2 ай бұрын
Yes, although it depends on RAM height. To the highest point of the heatsink it’s roughly 165mm so as long as you can get fans to sit lower than the heatpipe tips, you are fine. On my MSI Z690 I board I got great clearance because the outboard fan sat just beyond the RAM slots. On my AM5 board it wasn’t as good and I got some interference with the fan and side panel. I would say it’s do-able as long as you are willing to try lower RAM sticks or even remove the heat spreaders if needed.
@stephancardenas-navarro127
2 ай бұрын
@@MachinesMore thank you for the detailed reply... Low profile rams for reduced volume cases... Got it!!
@MohondhaY
2 ай бұрын
The D15 G1 hits the side panels on AM4 in this case?
@oakfig
2 ай бұрын
OMG what have you done!
@PTNOPOT
2 ай бұрын
Good review but this product is 6 years too late. It is close to the PA120 despite costing so much more. Royal Preytor (terrible name) is a much more exciting upcoming offering
@bobbymoss6160
2 ай бұрын
Looks like you're doing a wind tunnel experiment in that ITX case!
@alexrahardjazh
2 ай бұрын
Test it to atx and matx thete we can ser
@Dipto9
Ай бұрын
i dont like the corner design of noctua easily gets bend and doesnt looks good after that
@adillpickle6762
14 күн бұрын
The D15 is no better than the Noctua U12a but I guess you get it free to promote so go for it.
@MachinesMore
13 күн бұрын
I love the U12A but from my testing on a noise normalized basis the original D15 already beat it by a small margin.
@spacecy
5 күн бұрын
Even though i love noctua products, this is just bonkers. Whoever is considering buying this, don't. Too expensive, and the price to performance ratuio is ridiculously high. you can get the thermalright for nearly 1/5 of the price and only performs 2-3 degrees worse, nothing that you would ever notice or affect you.
@nossy232323
2 ай бұрын
"Will last from CPU to CPU to CPU" -> this used to be the case with Noctua, but now with the different versions it's doubtful you will be able to reuse it with your next system and get the optimal performance.
@MachinesMore
2 ай бұрын
That is the reason why I would recommend the standard version as the go-to, no need to restrict your future CPU choices.
@lagunriv
2 ай бұрын
Does it fot in the NR200?
@CAL1MBO
2 ай бұрын
Yes
@MachinesMore
2 ай бұрын
No
@filosavage7475
2 ай бұрын
@@CAL1MBObruh
@Lucatoni22
Ай бұрын
lol BS video - the best my ass, PS EVO 120 beats this. for a 3rd of the price. The preytor ULTRA is incoming from Thermalright which reduces load temps by a further 4c - It will SMOKE the g2 for 1/3rd of the price - and beat it !
@lflyr6287
2 ай бұрын
Machines & More : Thermalright Pearless Assasin 120 is practically 1-2 °C worse....and it costs 40 bucks....while this rehashed v1 NH-D15 costs 150+ bucks. Hahahaha, Noctua is obsoulette and must go away to make room for Thermalright that is bjotch slaping every Noctua cooler in comparable build quality and better performance.
@v0ldy54
2 ай бұрын
I swear I'm becoming an official Noctua hater, it's just absurd to me seeing the amount of money people waste on overpriced fans and coolers... I mean, when you dump 100€+ on a cooler and 120€+ for 4 extra fans (all made in China as the other brands btw, I wish they were at least manufacturing in Austria for those prices) when you don't have everything else top spec in your computer means you're literrally losing out on performance against a system that spent that money on a better CPU or GPU. Oh, and now with the new non flate contact plate coolers you also lose the "it's gonna last decades" argument since the curvature probabbly won't match the next cpu you buy.
@sebbe991
Ай бұрын
Wow you guys must be poor😂
@ThunderingRoar
Ай бұрын
Comparable build quality?? I see people complaining about thermalrights fan bearing rattle noise after few months of use meanwhile tons people have been using D15 for a decade and it still runs fine lol
@lflyr6287
Ай бұрын
@@ThunderingRoar I've had my Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE since 2021 when it launched and it has been running 24/7 eversince....no rattling noises from the fans. And buttercup, no fan is worth another 110 bucks....if mine happens to die in 4-5 years....I'll just buy a new 1500rpm 12cm one for 10-15 bucks and continue to have it for 4-5 years more. That way I'll reach that fictional decade of yours with 1 more spare fan and I'll still only pac 55 bucks combined for the cooler itself that outperforms every possible Noctua air cooler on the market.
@MrSouthSioux
Ай бұрын
Sorry but this just reinforces the value of Thermalright's offerings right now. If you buy Noctua at this point you are simply paying for a name. This is coming from someone who still uses the D14.
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