I have a Husqvarna 450 Rancher that has had an oiling problem from day one. Even when It was new the chain was always dry and I would having to stop cutting and pour oil on the chain. Ended up replacing the entire oil pump but that didn't help. After seeing this video I drilled the oil holes to about twice the diameter of the factory holes and this solved my oiling problem. Thanks for the video.
@JoeMama-gx5gw
Күн бұрын
I have the same problem with my 450. Did you drill the oil pump hole bigger or the bar oil oil bigger?
@danielzuluaga4232
11 күн бұрын
Sir, this is the best information I've got on this matter on all the internet. Thank you!
@briansmith1738
2 жыл бұрын
Good information, I'll try opening the hole up for the next load of logs. Thanks
@patthesoundguy
2 жыл бұрын
It's like you read my mind... Sunday afternoon I was testing a 371 for a buddy and found the bar wasnt getting oil. The brand new bar which I ordered in for him the oil passage was not connected at all to the groove of the bar. Good thing I found the problem before he put the saw in his new mill he ordered... I have a secomd new bar for the same guy that has a similar issue, they list the bar fits his saw but the oiler does not line up with anything on the bar. I have to mod it like you show. That's what happens with stuff like that where they list so many saws a bar fits.
@ted7x
2 жыл бұрын
been learning so much from watching you share your years of experience in these videos, absolutely amazing and humbling. thank you so much
@AimGobalWorldBibleSchool
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks pap, I will also try to use , used oil ....
@matthijsverweijmeren6114
5 ай бұрын
😊Also check your oilscreen and tankvent. I had an oilscreen completely clogged with very fine dirt. Previous owner put old dirty oil in. Your tank vent can be too much restrictive. Recheck your flow with cap tight and loose to compare. One of best bar oil according Project Farm: Harvest King
@PoisonShot20
3 ай бұрын
I heard that used hadrylic oil can be use on chains, do you know anything about it? I'm about to change the trans/ hadrylic oil on my John Deere.
@matthijsverweijmeren6114
2 ай бұрын
@@PoisonShot20 I think you can use it like old filtered motoroil. But check how the oil sticks to the bar and chain. I also don't know what the anti wear package of hydraulic oil is. Just try it. If the chain/ bar gets hot with a sharp chain and chain loosens up than it's not usable. However the oil is for free and if your bar and chain just wear a bit faster than with regular bar and chain oil, you just change your bar and chain somewhat more often. Just economics.
@PoisonShot20
2 ай бұрын
@@matthijsverweijmeren6114 I'll do that. I have and old chainsaw, I will use it as a guineapig.
@derekforrest6827
10 ай бұрын
Mate love your videos
@markyakubovsky3380
8 ай бұрын
Great Video! I thought I was the only one.. I use a small round file with the point ground off and roll it to port it out- BAM- oil on the chain. Cooler, smoother, longer chain life.. Yet when I mentioned it to our Stihl dealer he looked shocked and started talking about designers with engineering degrees and voiding warranties on new saws. All I said was "wow- common sense ain't common I guess."
@garyalford9394
2 ай бұрын
I think EPA has alot to do with it! yeah doesn't make sense!
@Camocountry1
Жыл бұрын
Thumbs up. Its common since. Its like they manufacture the hole small so you buy more bars and chains.
@YasilTorvanna
4 ай бұрын
Yet you cant spell SENSE correctly. Pathetic.
@kevinmaxam2414
2 жыл бұрын
You reaffirmed what my mentor old time logger taught me. He always started the saw and checked on the end of a cut to make sure oil was slinging of the end of the bar. He also said to fill bar oil to max but fuel mix to 3/4 or less so I would run out of fuel but still have bar oil. Thank you sir. Be safe and be careful
@nathanielw.h.9039
2 жыл бұрын
You're a boss Ironhorse...great tip that I will do on all my saws now. Thanks again for all your knowledge and also for answering the email I sent you right away. You're one of the few real guys out there. All the best and God bless
@campnoutdoors1621
2 жыл бұрын
Ironhorse, I fell timber for over 30 years most of which was on the west coast! I've ran a 36" bar a ton and this is what I learned. I started useing used engine oil for bar oil and my bar life was greatly extended. The myth is that engine oil is to thin. Its absolutely not true. I have tested in a big cut with many professional fallers who questioned me and after a cut my bar was cool to the touch whereas there bar would be fairly warm. The difference is bar oil is bio degradable and engine oil isn't. Put bar oil in your engine and see how fast it wipes out your bearings. Used engine oil has lubricating properties far superior to bar oil. Enouph so that I went from wearing out a bar every few months to useing a bar for well over a year. Have a great day sir and thank you for your vast knowledge that you share
@scottmarshall6766
2 жыл бұрын
Good one. I've been making paper bar plate gaskets to keep the leakage down and help hold the bar, and I like the results. I tried duct and electrical tape, but the adhesive turns to slime with the oil. Plain brown paper bags work well, but copier paper works well too, and you can use the plate to trace out the slot and holes with a pencil in a pinch or put the plate on the printer/copier and print onto heavy print paper or cardstock. Then stack or fold a few layers and cut out a bunch with an X-acto and gasket/leather punch set while watching videos. I keep a sandwich bag of them in my saw kit for each saw. I'm also careful to clean the bar and plates of all sawdust residue with paper towels and carb cleaner. The gaskets seem to help hold the bar from shifting up/down with less severe nut torque as well. I can't believe I never thought to open up the bar feed holes. Seems obvious once you know it, but it's not. Thanks! I have a new project on my list!
@blackwillow2884
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great tip Harvey. Maybe the bar makers leave the hole smaller so people that don’t know this trick will buy more bars as they wear out prematurely. You are looking good Harvey👍👍👍
@tomsmith4484
10 ай бұрын
Spot on!
@karlbuttler
Жыл бұрын
I was looking at that, when I built my West Coast saw, I was thinking, jeez that hole sure is small. Great tip.......k
@shawnsingleton3034
2 жыл бұрын
So crazy my father used to do this and I did it on my 461 works great 👍
@thomasqqcouperji4491
4 ай бұрын
Clearly industry wanting more business through premature bar and chain wear was having a problem with a Stihl bar know what to do now cheers
@PoisonShot20
3 ай бұрын
I think is Goverment regulations., the green deal, you know! Like the New Deal, and we pay the price, always.
@ItchyKneeSon
Жыл бұрын
And now, since bar oil prices have doubled, you'll be emptying your wallet twice as fast as your bar oil reservoir! lol (DISCLAIMER: This video has been brought to you by Stihl, Husqvarna, Echo, and all those other ones. 🤑🤑🤑)
@josephsalazar3817
2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing I said man these hole on the bar are too small . I said wow I'm glad veterans like you share your knowledge. now I know what needs to be done to my bar, it was leaking too much oil and not getting enough to my chain.
@dynojoemods2764
2 жыл бұрын
Great info!! Thank you for sharing. I have see those pained bars with the hole very restricted with paint alone. Good idea before just tossing "new " bars on.
@timbarden4578
2 жыл бұрын
Great tip.I been around long enough to know that one..cost of bars are threw the roof..as is bar oil..but it does really make stuff last longer..I fling lots myself..12$ a gallon gotta make a man puke. 👍👍
@michaelste5985
Жыл бұрын
I have a 372 Husqvarna and a neotec bar and chain I get the oil hole on the bar gets clogged like a half a tank of gas and it won’t oil the bar . What can I do to keep the hole free from getting clogged ?
@Saw_Squatch
2 жыл бұрын
Great tip as always especially with sealing behind the plate
@johnandcarolynmills3061
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch , this old dog learned something ,,,,today.
@CharlesBrisco
2 жыл бұрын
I've cut slots in my bars before an I use a used sawsaz blade as a bar Grove cleaner works good
@anthonypryor2852
2 жыл бұрын
Spot on Harvey. I’m old west coast logger. Ran oilers wide open. Old guy showed me to drill bars out like that back in the 80s. Oil is cheaper than bars and chains totally agree. Solid sound advice brother. God Bless
@michaelwhiteoldtimer7648
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks I was looking at my bar and it had a small oil hole, I am doing this trick
@yungsmile7546
2 жыл бұрын
This is just what I was thinking needs to be done on my new Echo CS620PW 27" that I've installed a new Oregon 36" bar and Archer ripper for milling. Thanks for sharing the simplicity of it.
@mmg6282
2 жыл бұрын
Great tip Harv. I’ve drilled out a couple of oil holes but nothing that big. Now I know the trick, use a dremel to shape the hole instead of a drill bit making it perfectly round. You know something is wrong when your tuning your saw, running it high rpm which means it’s pumping oil and you find a lot of oil running out of the saw behind the bar cover. That oil should have been carried down the bar rail and slung off the end. I’ll have to re-examine the hole alignment, how well it seals to the bar, and size/shape of the oiling hole. Thanks Harvey.
@cherithutube
Күн бұрын
Very interesting talk Sir, appreciated. I have had one Husqvarna for over 30 years and recently picked up a BU-KO saw. Their instructions are not to use wasted or regenerated oil for the bar, but use 10w-30 engine oil.
@LumberjackSmokestack
2 жыл бұрын
So true Harvey! Great vid.
@sundial6919
2 жыл бұрын
One o the most informative saw vids ive seen in a while . Thanks Mr Harvey . Dony boy great about actually sharing too
@michaelhumphreys2118
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Man! I've been watchin for over a year. An I believe you have given me the itch. To tear into a chainsaw. An I have seen your Holzfforma video. So really! You have helped me decide. To get a Holzfforma G660 with a 28 inch bar. Because I think that is a weird size for a bar. Had a Stihl MS660 with a 32in bar a few years back. An I really liked it. But the price. Scary considering what we are goin through down in the States. Anyway! I figure I'll run it for awhile. An the next time I get a few bills ahead. Take what the Ironhorse has taught me. An show my Buddies what a ported saw is. I've lost all the wise ole guys I used to run with. Pulling logs with a horse. Off some pretty rough country. Just to get a couple hundred a peace. After loadin an haulin on an old wore out Chevy one ton an a trailer. Thats all we had. But I wouldnt trade those days for nothin in this world. An you remind me of a time long gone now. I love you man. Thank you!
@johncrawford5871
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the tips .Harvey.
@kevinz763
2 жыл бұрын
EPA has lots to do with dry chains been going to do this to my bars also!! Even my new tsumura bars oil very little stihl bars are stingy when cutting ash
@will7its
2 жыл бұрын
EPA yep, you nailed it.....
@waynegilmore6805
2 жыл бұрын
Can't get ur email to work
@elijahmerrill9045
2 жыл бұрын
Popping in to point out that there is nothing gained by having an oil hole in your bar that is larger in diameter than the oil line. That's as large as you need to go, as nothing you do to the bar is changing the flow rate.
@KaliBlaz
Жыл бұрын
i pack high heat resistant grease inside the bar groove install my chain and move on with my life, the whole design of chain saw oils suck and needs to be redesigned, there is not one single chain saw i owned that does not leak whether it is brand new or old.
@robertdouglas3456
2 жыл бұрын
Great information Ironhorse! Some of your more expensive bars are opened up more! It does make a big difference! Keeping the area clean also with good oil! Thank you & God Bless your family! 🇺🇸🙏🇺🇸🙏🇺🇸🙏
@perrylongjr7478
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome Tip, thanks for taking the time to share the knowledge you have. It really helps.
@joshuajohnson4396
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for for sharing your knowledge passed down from Mr Bob Johnson. It's a shame that so many people try to hide things from everyone else in order to keep a secret. I love you and people just like you. You're a truly wonderful person who makes my world better. THANKS AGAIN
@mattbranson9489
2 жыл бұрын
I been drilling my bars since I was a kid all the older fallers did it so I followed their lead and never looked back
Can I use 10-30 motor oil for my bar oil? What is the best and cheapest oil for bar oil? Thanks IRON HORSE !
@rooster3019
2 жыл бұрын
Another tip from an old hand, When placing a chain on a bar, use a pumper oil can to pre-oil the bar groove top, nose, and bottom with chain'n bar oil. Just like in your truck or car motor, the initial "dry start" will create fast wear. I see "experts" all the time on KZitem putting new chain on new bars DRY and the reving it up, I guess they like filing the burr off the sides of the bar...
@theironhorse6600
2 жыл бұрын
I agree! Always pre oil a new bar!
@academicmailbox7798
20 сағат бұрын
Good tip, a smaller pumper oil can and enough bar oil to fill it with is probably one of the cheapest couple of saw maintenance items that one can obtain, relative to costs of purchase of the actual chainsaw bar one is trying to protect and save. A couple of high quality 24 inch Husky bars this summer made a big hole 'in my pocket' sure enough. Still worth it, they're heavy but I find them safe to employ for sawing through 'dense', tougher hardwoods. However, I'd also like to keep them in their present condition for as long as possible.
@academicmailbox7798
20 сағат бұрын
The Oregon bars are nice and lightweight . . . but can really overheat, owing to shortages of bar oil getting to where it's needed. I have to go and see again what my pumps are set to. And see if it's worth closing the pump adjustment a bit on my shorter bars. Or not. Come to think of it, my Oregon bars were obtained to test out longer bars and chains, and at that point I think I ought to have opened up the pump adjustment at that point. As a matter of basic procedure (longer bar and chain, increase oil flow if possible).
@matthewbegin3462
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Harvey, Appreciate passing on your wisdom.
@nicovmods
2 жыл бұрын
great info, thanks for sharing :)
@mikahakkinen5651
2 жыл бұрын
a did knowing that trick. a old man did telling me that.thats a good importent tip.
@matthewworkshop5371
2 жыл бұрын
hey Harvey how may I give you a phone call I want to talk to you about a project I'm doing I need your help
@waynegilmore6805
2 жыл бұрын
Love watching ur video s
@eriklong6390
2 жыл бұрын
Harvey, this video is perfect for me. I have an old 272xp that I thought had an oil pump problem. Figured out the Oil pump was just fine. I just wasn’t getting it to my bar like I knew it should be. This video here helped me out. Thank you
@justinweaver8787
2 жыл бұрын
Great tips sir i been doin my bars had not thought of the bar plates until u demonstrated it!! I see new bar plates an permatex happen to my 3 main work saws 4sure!!! 066mag 395xp ms461!! Thank u sir.
@evankibbe590
2 жыл бұрын
That was very valuable information Harvey !!! Thank you 😊 Oh by the way my blood sugar was 103 this morning 🌄 and no diabetic meds !!! Just diet!!! 😊😊😊😊🌎🌞👍👍👍👍👍
@pm270100
2 жыл бұрын
BIG DAY ON THE 23 MARCH ILL BE OLD LIKE YOU LOL
@DanielFSimkins
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea! When I am in hardwood milling the chain heats up quick. Thanks Iron Horse.
@jonatanrq1304
2 жыл бұрын
Que grande!!!! Muy buena informacion!!!! Saludos desde Chubut, Patagonia Argentina!
@BDfoxmore
8 ай бұрын
They probably make small holes on purpose, to burn up your bars and chains. Keep the money flowing faster.
@victoryfirst2878
2 жыл бұрын
I really like your channel fella. The hole size you increased really makes a good improvement in reducing friction on the bar and chain. How do you feel about using canola oil instead of bar oil ??? The cost is so much less and you can just dip the bar tip into a container of canola oil to help the roller nose get a drink too. vf
@HighMaintenancePS
2 жыл бұрын
My old mate ran used engine oil for years. His logic was shit, it only needs to get slippery and is only on the bar and chain for a minute.
@victoryfirst2878
2 жыл бұрын
@@HighMaintenancePS I presume that using any liquid that has slip can do the job. The cost of bar lube at stores today is just crazy for cheap oil with additives. Then it is just absorbed by the chips and pollutes the environment. Nice work and peace too. vf
@TheLawnmowerLady
2 жыл бұрын
Canola oil is often used on saws in the food industry.
@victoryfirst2878
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLawnmowerLady I have been using canola oil in chainsaw bar lube for so many years that I truly do not remember when I started to use the natural canadian oil. Using used motor oil wears the bar and chain way faster as the suspended dirt particles and acids in the dinosaur oil. The toxicity of petroleum verses organic vegetable oil is just the way to go these days. I got the idea from the food industry when I repaired machines used by that field. Thanks for the comment The Lawnmower Lady. Peace vf
@MrBearbait75
2 жыл бұрын
When I change my oil on the cars and trucks I drain the bottles into a gallon can and use that as bar oil. Nice clean auto oil. I do think since it's thinner than regular bar oil it tends to leak out when the saw is unused. Any thoughts?
@GlynnRussell-ew3pp
5 ай бұрын
If I haven't said it before on a comment thanks so much for sharing your saw knowledge
@chrisallen3741
11 ай бұрын
Wow, thats awesome….my chainsaw just empties out after i shut it off…i have a 261 and it cuts like crazy and i love the power…..im a woman and the bigger saws seem to have too much for wood. Could you tell me if i should junk this? I love all the older things that were made in the past. I even have an ole unisaw made by delta called the bullet motor and love it. Could you tell me if i could fix it? I dont want to send it out if its not going to cost much or if its something simple
@jasonhayes4171
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent tip of the day.
@brianmorrow6355
2 жыл бұрын
I've noticed newer bars last 10 years have those small holes in them and I just don't understand why I drill em out on the drill press
@davidbrennan5
4 ай бұрын
Can you use the updated metal oil pump driver on an OE 372xp or do you need to change out the pump?
@jackmcminn2520
6 ай бұрын
That's why saws don't last as long only reason they want you to run 50:1 is because of the EPA
@mspahn1967
Жыл бұрын
Maybe I just asked a dumb question 😛 there is a hole on both sides. Guess I've never paid that much attention
@JustMe-gw3eo
8 ай бұрын
Thanks, excellent video
@alantippett7602
2 жыл бұрын
This makes perfect sense, thanks!
@WeThePeopleUnited2A
10 ай бұрын
I been wondering what I could do to get my saw to oil more volume thank you the environmentalists are the who’s you don’t want people polluting while they fly on their private planes
@MrBaptiste003
Жыл бұрын
Hello ironhorse i have many question What chain you used semi chisel or full chisel im french and and in my country only oak for firewood haw you sharpen fichier grinder or stihl 2in 1 sharpener y buy this week progressive raker jauge by stihl
@Finom1
2 жыл бұрын
Great educational video!!!
@CATES2211
2 жыл бұрын
Great video, Harvey. I've been doing the same thing for a couple years now. It really works wonders!
@paulhare662
Жыл бұрын
Bought my first saw, an 024av, when I was 18. First time I took the bar off I looked at the oiling passages and thought, bigger is better and drilled the holes larger. Still have that bar, It's my root and stump bar now.
@donaldthomson8965
10 ай бұрын
most or all chain saws have a ajustment screw under the saw for ajusting oil feed and the hole in bar gets blocked up with fine wood shit so hole bigger will help
@rickwhite3112
7 ай бұрын
Would have been a better video if you showed how you drill out the oiler hole instead of just talking about it. What drill bit is used, what angle to drill at, and how deep
@Hollywoodhouse74
2 жыл бұрын
My ms311 the case cracked on a fake seem.... so I permatexed it
@shroomssawshop4401
2 жыл бұрын
Dear Iron horse, love your videos. Looking forward to all your videos and the new future its going to be rough but you can do it I have faith in you!!
@pm270100
2 жыл бұрын
nice i got a vid on that
@JosephSmith-sg9yv
Жыл бұрын
Oregon Mirco lube hole as they call it sucks. I agree enlarge that hole.
@hpelisr
2 жыл бұрын
Good tip Harvey, I thought Biden was the reason I couldn't get more oil.
@theironhorse6600
2 жыл бұрын
That’s funny! Made me laugh!
@tomsmith4484
10 ай бұрын
Biden did that 😂
@LooonTooons
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. You helped me big time. It seems like when you lift the tip of the bar before tightening the bar nuts on a chain adjustment or replacement, that a small bar oiler hole may not align perfectly with the oiler slot in the case. A bigger hole fixes this issue nicely. Cheers & Godspeed... 8^)
@wayneberry8703
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much with this great information, I for one will be trying both of your suggestions as soon as I can. Cheers…
@gyulatimko2075
2 жыл бұрын
Good tip! Thx
@TomGorman-x8q
8 ай бұрын
When you take off the scrape all the dust out of bar, I use a steel ruler oil doesn’t get stuck in the dust
@philliphall5198
Жыл бұрын
It just makes sense to increase hole size and more volume on bar Bar makes known this but there in the business to sale bars Drill them out
@mikecolligan2829
Жыл бұрын
i almost tossed a new tsumura bar because it didn't oil. hole is tiny and angled on the side of the bar. hated it. i'll give it another shot with a hole mod.
@mspahn1967
Жыл бұрын
Why is there not a hole on the other side of the bar wonder? I flip the bar on my saw every other time I sharpen the chain.
@joshbennett2762
2 жыл бұрын
Why would manufacturer want to make a bar that lasts then you buy less of them and they make less money
@skravlesen
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is going to help me a lot! Thanks😁
@zacharymcevoy-rd8tp
9 ай бұрын
Got to be carefull not to run the oil tank dry before the fuel tank
@alanwatts9232
2 жыл бұрын
Good info, thanks Harvey. Hope you're going well.
@KRAMPUS_G60_16V
5 ай бұрын
Thank you very much. I'll try that. 🙂
@Martins6585
4 ай бұрын
Amazing... Thank you so much
@stephenbonawitz2751
2 жыл бұрын
when i clean my bar i use a old hacksaw blade go from the sprocket back to the end then use a small tiped screw driver fo the oil holes
@ToddAdams1234
2 жыл бұрын
Same thing with me, but it needs to be a tiny screwdriver for the bar holes if you want thru-n-thru passage for stock bars. Modded should be no problem for your average smaller screwdriver though. Good thoughts just the same 👍
@anonymous-hz7yp
2 жыл бұрын
First off, I've learned a lot from you, and am grateful for your videos. As a bonus to your knowledge, your voice and demeanor are just relaxing in general and put me at ease. Now for the meat and taters- the newer style Oregon Power Match bar has been real grime collector in my experience. Brand new bar with a brand new chain, and it still fills the rail up with gunk incredibly quickly. Is this a fluke deal, or have others been experiencing the same thing? My Stihl bars don't seem to collect anywhere near the amount of gunk as the Oregon. Going to buy a Christmas tree bit right now to try and help this bar out a bit. Thanks again brother!
@genexxa357
10 ай бұрын
Can I make a oiler hole in a bar that dosent have a hole?
@joutdoorsmen23
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your tips very appreciated
@richv70
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@jackhammer8563
2 жыл бұрын
You’re a wealth of knowledge. Thanks for the advice.
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