I just realized that London Tipton is a play on Paris Hilton 😂 First name is a city & hilt and tip are opposite ends of a sword lol
@kathrineprescott
3 жыл бұрын
Lmaooo love it
@LadyOcon
3 жыл бұрын
Also it was to target the stereotype of the smart hardworking aian and the dumb rich blonde... having the opposites in the show. That is the main focus.
@samanthaorologio6866
3 жыл бұрын
Holy. Hell. 🤯
@t-pain1827
3 жыл бұрын
@@LadyOcon I never quite put those two together until now
@meat1575
3 жыл бұрын
NO its because paris hilton heiress to hilton hotels and london tipton heiress to tipton hotels they literally live in the tipton
@gayliljaehyun
3 жыл бұрын
as a dark skinned black girl, i really loved the proud family but seeing the way it handled darker complected characters always bothered me. the way they were always obnoxious, stupid, ugly, unlikeable, or all of the above made me upset from a young age, and though i was fortunate enough to grow up in a family that assured me that there was nothing wrong with being dark, seeing media portrayals like that as a child really resonated with me in all the wrong ways and made me worried that people would see Me the way these characters are portrayed. i also happen to be muslim (lmao) and the episode with the zamins actually made my non muslim friends make fun of me More because they thought that all muslim families are like that.
@faithelson
3 жыл бұрын
Im mixed and i wish more mixed people grew up how i did in terms of me living with my aunties family because I can see a huge difference in treatment between me and my family and my friends and it breaks my heart.
@flovonnejohnson707
3 жыл бұрын
Im not dark skinned, i happen to be right in the middle but i hated the way media treated darkskinned women.... Shows and movies like : proud family (of course), martin, my wife and kids (the daughter used to be dark skinned with alot of attitude and sass but when they replaced her with a lighter girl, her temprement completely changed) ......... Same with the mom on "Fresh prince of Bel-Air" (funny enough every pwrson ive ever talked to says they prefer the origional aunt VIV...... She was classy yet she was still a strong black woman who could do what she had too).... They did the same with the mom of "family matters" And dont get me started on the way the sisters were portrayed in "COMING TO AMERICA" lol smh
@cartooncottage2024
3 жыл бұрын
Same. And I always noticed how Disney Channel always tended to only have lightskinned/biracial girls as their main leads instead of having darker black girls as main leads.
@lastinghappiness3977
3 жыл бұрын
Omg I just saw another comment of yours on a beauty commentator’s say yes to the dress video lol
@JCmud351
3 жыл бұрын
My mom (who is light-skinned), refused to let me (dark-skinned) watch Proud Family because of how dark skin girls were portrayed on the show.
@danderson8431
3 жыл бұрын
I honestly think that having an Asian character named “London Tipton” is a bit revolutionary. I’m used to Asian characters having typical Asian names.
@kirag9509
3 жыл бұрын
“Cho Chang” 😭
@hiddah8534
3 жыл бұрын
"typical Asian names"
@digimonalvatrax2738
3 жыл бұрын
Lee and Ming(attractive, quiet, play piano and violin very well)
@WinxMagicalHero
3 жыл бұрын
And she wasn’t very smart either
@orangeworm
3 жыл бұрын
nah i would really like asian characters to have names asian parents of different backgrounds would actually give their children, not stereotypical "typical asian names"
@fayetopias
3 жыл бұрын
i always thought i was overthinking when i noticed how most american media portray asians as either submissive nerds, over sexualized dragon ladies or just straight up villains
@chaosvii
3 жыл бұрын
That’s the hell of it, so many people are uninterested in putting thought into media, so noticing weird patterns at all is seen as “too much” It’s easier for someone that sees media as “normal” to treat the observer as “strange” instead of what they observe.
@digimonalvatrax2738
3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget weird and freaky or smart as aliens
@clarencehemphill3403
3 жыл бұрын
Can you explain the dragon ladies thing cause I dont think I saw that
@willowfive8330
3 жыл бұрын
@@clarencehemphill3403 "Dragon Lady" is basically a stereotype in films, comics, etc. where east and south asian women are portrayed as over-bearing, tyrannical, sexually alluring, and mysterious characters.
@clarencehemphill3403
3 жыл бұрын
@@willowfive8330 sounds like a terrible combo for anyone but I did not know this was a thing maybe ive seen some examples and didn't know
@jasminethegrayknight
3 жыл бұрын
I liked the Disney movie “The Color of Friendship” it was about a black family in the US who lets a south African girl come live with them because of for an exchange program and it’s a place during apartheid, but the girl around the same age from the family didn’t know about apartheid and so when a white South African girl comes over they have to go through trying to get deal with having a racist kid in their house who doesn’t realize racism is bad
@briannalee1998
3 жыл бұрын
Omg that movie was fantastic! They should play reruns of it! And Cheetah Girls
@ambriaashley3383
3 жыл бұрын
I would push back on the white character “not knowing racism is bad”. She knows it’s bad, that’s why she said she wouldn’t call Piper (the black girl) the South African racial slur that I won’t write here, although she has heard many white people, including family members, call black people that before in her country. I think the problem is that her character (sorry I forget her name) doesn’t realize that although she isn’t explicitly racist, she and her family still hold onto racist ideals and implicit racism, ie perceiving the intelligence of black people is lower or assuming their proper place in society is in servitude roles. You’re right that her very privileged position as a white person, both during and after apartheid, gave her the opportunity to be blind to disgusting racism and oppression. Luckily, she grew out of some of that blindness due to her experience with the host family. It’s like Piper’s dad in the film says to her: “I don’t think you’re a bad person. I just think you’ve been taught some bad things.” That really struck me as a kid.
@jasminethegrayknight
3 жыл бұрын
@@ambriaashley3383 i dont know how else to respond except to say: wow and yes absolutely what i would have put if my thoughts were organized like yours instead of acting like they are in a blender 😄
@ambriaashley3383
3 жыл бұрын
@@jasminethegrayknight hahaha no worries I thought your thoughts were very clear! Glad we found common ground on the masterpiece that is “The Color of Friendship” haha
@arianna5270
3 жыл бұрын
Also the Black girl in the film did know about apartheid, her family just assumed that they would receive a Black South African person because of it. Her father actually was an advocate against apartheid before the exchange student ever arrived. Just important to include that because the Black family being incredibly informed about global politics was kind of central to the story.
@tiabaldwin3518
3 жыл бұрын
missed opportunity to talk about Zeke in HSM!!! they literally told him to ditch his dream of cooking and stick to the status quo of a Black man and to play basketball instead of following his culinary dreams!!
@ijustdraw1023
3 жыл бұрын
:(
@musiclover_kb4913
3 жыл бұрын
I haven't even watched this video but this is the 2nd time I've come across this comment and I am baffled that ppl genuinely believe that was in ANY way racially motivated LOL. The point of that song was to tell ppl that they should stick to the one thing they are known for doing, that developing new interests and hobbies is inherently bad and ruins the social order. Besides Chad and Zeke, there are 4 other black guys on the basketball team and the whole team including the cheerleaders were telling Zeke this thru song. Wouldn't that make those black basketball players on the team self-prejudiced? If no other character but Zeke was being chastised for doing something different from the norm in the song, then we could call it racist but sorry, no it is not and I am saying this as a black person
@pilot8220
Жыл бұрын
@@musiclover_kb4913 No it was racially motivated
@prettygirl6994
3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t consider a Gabriella nor Taylor a “not like other girls”. Even as child they dressed pretty feminine to me. I think it’s just sharpay’s femininity was highlighted more because 1. She’s white and rich, and 2. Because she wore pink. As much as I love the color pink, I’m tired of pink being the ONLY COLOR to represent femininity.
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254
3 жыл бұрын
I guess their feminity is more neutral, neither Butch or Girly.
@prettygirl6994
3 жыл бұрын
@@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254 yea like they had no problem dressing up and cleaned up nice
@ambriaashley3383
3 жыл бұрын
Mmm agree with all your points there!
@anni1348
3 жыл бұрын
I guess they tried to portray Vanessa as the relateble quirky "I'm not like other girls" character through her personality, she's shy, humble, nerdy, a little clumsy, reads books of course, is into science, plus she mostly wore blue clothes etc. And she's not like other girls, like sharpay, into "superficial" or girly things such as fashion, the color pink, make up, fame, musical theater etc.
@prettygirl6994
3 жыл бұрын
@@anni1348 still through her personality never seemed “not like other girls” to me. I think people get the characteristics of being “nlog” confused with actually being a “nlog”. She has some of the requirements but she never rejected her Femininity or judged sharpay for hers either. If she ever had a problem with sharpay it would be with the way she acted. That’s the main component of the “nlog”. Being non feminine doesn’t make you a “nlog”. Just typically non feminine girls can fall into the “nlog”.
@bree6298
3 жыл бұрын
As a cheerleader it was so annoying seeing those things. I did it from fifth grade to freshman year of high school. I won state two times, then placed second in state and third in state. I was pretty good. I liked it in grade school cause I did it out of school. I had a good drama free team, and great coaches. Then I tried in high-school but the program and coaches were a mess, so i quit. I also quit because once I wore my cheerleading uniform I was treated hella different. You could tell some teachers had resentment from there days and were harder on my after that, and one even referred to me as cheerleader instead of my names. I was sexualized by the boys, and was constant getting checked out. Which isn’t fun. Then other student had resent and were mean to me as well when I wore it. I also couldn’t talk to my guy friend in football with out being told not to flirt. Really any guy I was talking to I would be “flirting” with when I wasn’t. Really it was not fun in high school plus everyone thought we were all bitchy, but everyone was supper nice. It also goes into the thing of if your popular then your mean, or will peak in high school. Which isn’t even true lol. The media just made everyone feel like there bitterness was justified. When it isn’t cause I am a person who does/did a sport.
@Alicia-sk9qv
3 жыл бұрын
Ugh that must really flipping suck 😞
@maze2387
3 жыл бұрын
That's terrible. I'm sorry you had to go through that
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254
3 жыл бұрын
Ugh some adults shouldn't work with kids
@andreawalker8343
3 жыл бұрын
I dealt with similar as a teen. It led me too quit too. It was really disappointing because I love the sport.
@fayne3176
3 жыл бұрын
I was a cheerleaders too. I had a similar experiences with classmate who would assume a bunch about me then say "omg your actually really nice!" once they got to know me. To boys being surprise with how athletic I was and the fact cheerleading wasn't just about "shaking pompoms". I mean on the highschool team we were really inclusive accepting any skill level so most girls didn't have years or tumbling class. But I was on the regional competitive cheer team and people were still underestimating me even if they knew. I only quit after I got injured but to this day I have to dispel misconceptions about cheerleading as whole thanks to media.
@marle7
3 жыл бұрын
as a latina girl, from Venezuela i don’t see many latino representation that’s not mexican 🧍🏽♀️ and the mexican representation is full of stereotypes
@Dantee985
3 жыл бұрын
yeah (im argentinian) its like americans cant think of another country other than México, even tho Latinoamerica has a lots of countrys and cultures
@Sophia-ux7gj
3 жыл бұрын
I am Canadian of El Salvadorian desent, I totally agree with this. It is like they cannot comprehend that more than Mexican can co-exist with in the Latino space. While I am glad to see some representation for Latinos, I do think it is harmful to treat the whole Canadian/American Latino community's as a monolith
@soapthesoap
3 жыл бұрын
I can somewhat relate to this as I never felt represented in media (I'm half Latina and half white) my family is from New Mexico so there's not a lot of media that is specifically about someone like me. My family is not Mexican, we're New Mexican and our ancestors were here five hundred years ago. Sorry for the rant.
@haydee8546
3 жыл бұрын
@@soapthesoap BRO IF YOURE FROM NEW MEXICO YOURE NOW LATINA YOUR WHITE
@starrsmith3810
3 жыл бұрын
The spicy Latina stereotype/trope
@peacheslikeapples
3 жыл бұрын
It's so crazy that Diseny regressed after the early 2000's. I'm glad they're turning it around with Andy Mac; future generations of kids deserve to feel represented.
@jenna1903
3 жыл бұрын
tbh not really bunk’d literally had all the poc characters as blatant stereotypes for ex. the latino character was literally seen as dirty.
@kirag9509
3 жыл бұрын
@@blackknightfool No one owes anyone anything but the market is demanding more representation. So if Disney refuses to cave into demands for actual and good representation, Disney can expect to not retain a high viewership numbers. Pure capitalism
@MattEldritchHorror
3 жыл бұрын
@@blackknightfool IDK which is more gross; your bootlicking of the Disney corp or your anti-progressivism.
@fellowg73ok
3 жыл бұрын
I hate how Andy Mac ended before it's time because of negative press from the white grandpa of the show trying to pressure a young boy for sex(google it). Old white guys always be fuckin up all our progress on the road to equality in America.
@deborahvance1334
3 жыл бұрын
@@fellowg73ok Disney has a 3 season rule. After 3 seasons, you have to pay the actors more, unless you change the name and some of the cast. (Ex: Suit Life, and Suit Life on Deck. Or Liv and Maddie, and Liv and Maddie: Cali Style.) So Andi Mac was always going to end after season 3. But I'm sure what that disgusting bastard did certainly didn't help.
@sillybilly5161
3 жыл бұрын
I remember growing up being a "ethnically ambiguous" kid, and one of the things that sticks out is when we wanted to play "princess" at school. My friends, most white, said I could only pick from Pocahontas, Jasmine, or Tiana even tho I wanted to be Snow White (I liked her dress). Tiana was nice, but I didn't like the other characters because they always felt very off to me (read: racist)! It's not the worst experience at all I have been through growing up brown, but It always stuck with me as something unpleasant.
@ambriaashley3383
3 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry. It’s always the worst when you’re a kid playing make-believe in a group of White kids, and they say you can only play the POC movie character, band mate, etc. Why do they all do that lmao. I remember I could only be “Scary Spice” as a kid out of all the Spice Girls
@sillybilly5161
3 жыл бұрын
@@ambriaashley3383 Yeah, it's like white kids other poc kids, perhaps without realizing it. Not a great experience. I'm sorry you went through that too :(
@trika91
3 жыл бұрын
@@ambriaashley3383 Man, you’re bringing up old memories with the Scary Spice thing.
@pizzarolls7719
3 жыл бұрын
@@blackknightfool What?
@XiaoIsMyHusbandBTW
3 жыл бұрын
I went to a mostly poc school with only like 3 white kids so I never really experienced that (especially since no one would ever really play with me anyways) so I’m sorry that happened
@biancablair4213
3 жыл бұрын
That Ravi character. Wow. They really wanted to play up the Indian stereotypes with that one. That wasn't funny, it was cringeworthy.
@whatthehellisthis
3 жыл бұрын
as an indian american, his characterization always bothered me then again, all the kids on jessie were stereotypes
@anoushkashenoy692
3 жыл бұрын
@@whatthehellisthis same. as an indian american i actually did enjoy ravi’s personality and the idea of his character, but his stereotypes were played up so much, his accent was awful, and he wasn’t allowed to really exist outside of the stereotype. It’s a shame.
@oyinkansolaadebajo9716
3 жыл бұрын
@@whatthehellisthis As a black femme, I 100% agree. Even when I watched the show, Ravi, Bertram, and Zuri really bothered me
@cpdontstopme7404
3 жыл бұрын
@@oyinkansolaadebajo9716 What was wrong with Bertram?
@oyinkansolaadebajo9716
3 жыл бұрын
@@cpdontstopme7404 They made a lot of fat jokes about him, that was it. He was always the butt of the joke
@joannewang86
3 жыл бұрын
I'm only 12 minutes into the video but hit "like" when you pointed out how saying "Well, the East Asians have 'Fresh Off the Boat', where's our show?" is distracting from who is really in power and minimizes the struggle that the makers behind FOTB had to go through to get their (our) ONE show.
@maloo538
3 жыл бұрын
I feel the need to point out that in actuality most Pakistani women don’t wear hijabs. There are many who do, but as far as head coverings go, dupattas are much more popular. And ofcourse there are many women who don’t wear any head coverings at all. And this also depends on where you go. Pakistan is a very big country with many different cultures.
@ghostytrickster8458
3 жыл бұрын
YESS as a Pakistani-Canadian it sucks when they try to fit all South Asians into a specific stereotype or culture when different cultural realities exist even within the same country :,,) it’s especially ironic because ik myself and my mother and many of our friends who immigrated here from Pakistan only started wearing the hijab AFTER moving because it’s generally not that big back home lolol
@sorzin2289
3 жыл бұрын
Isn't Pakistan the first country to be formed over a religous identity?
@grapeshot
3 жыл бұрын
Disney has a long history of racism. Song of the South is still problematic for them so...
@rebeccassweetmusic4632
3 жыл бұрын
And they like to act as if Song of the South never happened. Peter Pan and Lady & The Tramp are no different for how they viewed Indigenous people and Asians
@grapeshot
3 жыл бұрын
@@rebeccassweetmusic4632 Very true
@baiwatch1
3 жыл бұрын
The production of The Proud Family and Song of The South are so divorced from one another. Two different studios, 40-50 years apart, and owned by a megacorp that went through dramatic brand transformations between those years.
@grapeshot
3 жыл бұрын
@@baiwatch1 I wouldn't care how many years they are apart. It still doesn't change the fact that Disney has a legacy of racism.
@rebeccassweetmusic4632
3 жыл бұрын
@@baiwatch1 Just because it was long ago doesn't mean it wasn't problematic.
@Spamhard
3 жыл бұрын
As a HSM fan myself, I love to see this break down. Defending Sharpay is a weird take when, imo, she's not disliked by the characters or punished by the story because she's feminine or ambitious, she's punished by the story because she treats people like dirt and uses them. She's willing to use and toss aside even her twin brother at a moments notice, and is constantly pitting people against one another for her own gain. Ambition isn't the problem, it's manipulation. There's a huge difference between being ambitious and abusive, you can be ambitious while still taking other people's wants and needs into account, which is what Ryan displays in the movie; he has strong ambitions, but instead of using everyone around him, he tries lifting them up with him. Plus that's basically Troy's ENTIRE story arc in HSM2, and Sharpay is meant to be the mirror of that. Sharpay's a really fun character, and while I haven't seen her stand alone movie, I feel like the development of gaining a bit more empathy was shown through the movies as she does seem to learn some lessons and show genuine happiness for Ryan's successes when they do happen. She doesn't need protecting, she's not an attack on the feminine, she's just a fun villain (and one of the best characters ;P). And I love Ryan so much, it was really nice to see a queer character just being... normal and accepted and actually achieving what he wanted. Was great to see him come outta his shell as the movies progressed.
@flovonnejohnson707
3 жыл бұрын
You should check out the "fan theory" by film theory about highschool musical...... Its about how sharpay isnt the true villian..... You might find it interesting lol
@hehehe785
3 жыл бұрын
@@flovonnejohnson707 oh yeah I watch it’s funny how Troy was the villain the whole time lol Ima go watch it again
@k.d3983
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Sharpay is a white woman, so I find it interesting when I see people defend sharpay and say that she’s the victim, while like everyone else, has screwed up. Now, is it a problem when people make ultra feminine girls the villain and spread the message that being too feminine is bad? Yes, but I’ve always seen people make this point about white women being seen as a villain, even to the point where they ignore their flaws and bad behavior.
@pyrodolls
3 жыл бұрын
i would like to say how much i appreciate this comment. i literally had to delete one of my social media accounts over how much people think sharpay is "the victim" or "was the only good character" and you honestly put every thought i had into words.
@Spamhard
3 жыл бұрын
@@pyrodolls And I appreciate you! Sorry bout them social medias, but lbh it's probably for the best to nope away from most of those sites. (I say, in a youtube comment, hah). But yes, there's a very weird trend in fandoms where a small chunk of folk think you can't just enjoy a villain and instead need to justify or defend them at every turn. Some really struggle with saying "yeah they're an absolute piece of shit and I love them for it". Just look at some of the Hannibal fandom......
@heyitsbuttershay5627
3 жыл бұрын
When you go to school to become a teacher we learn about "calendar representation" and how to avoid it. Basically the idea that black authors only come out during black history month, etc. Instead you,consciously, represent the races and ethnicities in your classrooms year-round ! It's not that hard!
@kaniahankston4310
3 жыл бұрын
What annoyed me about watching Disney Channel in the early 2000’s is the black best friend/sidekick trope. Not only Disney channel but just media in general. There was always a white, main character protagonist and then their “cool” black friend with WAY less lines! “Diversity!” Lol
@Mourning_Stahr
9 ай бұрын
Did you ever watch that’s so raven ? It was one of my favorite shows.
@army4chair345
3 жыл бұрын
as a black girl i really enjoyed hearing your reflexions on this topic, it is so important that we listen to each others perspectives and understand them
@emilyleaf9857
3 жыл бұрын
I grew up w Little Mosque on the Prairie and never realized that it's non christian-centric representation was uncommon until I grew up. I really recommend that show to yall
@noorykorky5056
3 жыл бұрын
Oh, my goodness gracious!!! Some actual representation for Muslims! Yay!! I did not know about this show until I read your comment.
@BLKPlutoh
3 жыл бұрын
I remember watching it when the series came out. It’s such a great show.
@emilyleaf9857
3 жыл бұрын
@@BLKPlutoh AGREED They were playing reruns of it last year on a broadcast channel where I'm at, very nostalgic
@emilyleaf9857
3 жыл бұрын
@Kennedy Thedford I'm so glad you checked it out!! ;;
@peacendpola23
3 жыл бұрын
10:44 THIS! I personally am all for representation, I am a latina and really wish for a latina princess, but I feel bummed when Tiana or Moana came up people were only saying "but where's the latina one?" like, what about not using other minorities to compare said minority?
@iwakeupandboomimarat
2 жыл бұрын
i know she isnt officially part of the disney princesses lineup but elena from the elena of avalor tv series is a latina princess in a very latin inspired fantasy world
@peacendpola23
2 жыл бұрын
@@iwakeupandboomimarat Unrelated to the point but yeah, Elena, Sofia and now Mirabel...
@starrsmith3810
3 жыл бұрын
As a black woman, there’s NEVER too much representation for POC and I’m happy to see other minority groups get they’re representation even if I’m still wanting another black princess then just Tiana
@cadeocafeeee
3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious to see how Disney tackles diversity through the decades. During the 90s, there was a Disney cartoon called Quack Pack and it told the adventures of Donald Duck's nephews, Huey, Dewey and Louie as teenagers. Although the main cast are ducks, most if not all the extras are humans and i don't think there were minorities among those extras. However, I remember this specific episode where the main characters go to China, and basically the plot goes "Chinese girl throws herself in the arms of the first foreigner she meets, turns out she's actually evil and has magical powers and wants to take over the world". So not only there weren't poc in the show, the one time there was a minority they were an antagonist and she is a girl that uses her seduction to deceive the poor westener. Oh and she is Chinese, we can't trust China and their trickery to take over the world! In the 2000s and early 2010s, as your video showed, it seems Disney, specially their animation division, was attempting to reach and depict the lives of Asian Americans. Cartoons like Jake Long and Juniper Lee were able to show not only racial minorities but also their culture in a better light, making them revolutionary compared to some of the stuff for children from the 90s, that still repeated racial tropes and stereotypes from decades before and rarely had audiences that weren't white in mind. Now Disney's attempts to diversify their cast comes from a place to sell more to audiences from mostly Asian countries, like we saw from the most recent Mulan and Raya. Disney def needs to learn how to tackle diversity and their culture not only in their movies, but also their parks' attractions and how they make their merchandising if they want to compete. Today, we have a rise in animation and live action studios in other continents telling their own stories with cg graphics and fluid 2D animation that are as state of the art as Disney's. I, for one, am just happy we don't have the same people, same art style, same places telling the same stories over and over again XD Thank you so much for the video! It was as enlightening as it was a trip down memory lane and made me value some of these shows even more!
@DrawciaGleam02
3 жыл бұрын
I saw that Quack pack episode! Felt bad for Huey at the time.... I think introducing another Chinese love interest would have helped that story better.
@GaasubaMeskhenet
3 жыл бұрын
The same one white voice actor voices like every token black character in anime on Netflix. It's so weird to experience
@АлинаКостылева-ф2ч
Жыл бұрын
Is this rule applies only to America? Because US movies are most popular and get dubbed in dozens of languages. What if country has a very tiny percent of black or Asian population? Would it be wrong for a black American actor to be dubbed in Polish, by Polish white actor?
@averyaustin9867
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I grew up in a very racially diverse school, so racism towards each other wasn’t really a thing. If anything, teachers were the ones that were microagresssive towards the POC kids. I really enjoyed when my Asian classmates would tell me about their culture and it made me jealous because I don’t even know anything besides my great great grandma was a slave. I appreciated learning about the microcosm that was my Alabama town and it baffles me how people are willing to ostracize others due to their race and heritage. Thanks for sharing this video, it was super enlightening.
@pingu5614
2 жыл бұрын
That whole part about "fighting for Scraps" is so important! the other day I saw a Filipino person arguing about Encanto and that "when are Filipinos going to get a Disney movie?", this person also changed the nacionalities and appearances of the characters to fit into Filipino culture and it sit so wrong with me to errase one minority with another exactly for what you said! I wish I could find that tweet again and redirec them to this video!
@8lavenderrose8
2 жыл бұрын
I've also read someone said it was racist because it was a Mexican family but Latin American songs. Like don't get me wrong disney has its racist stuff but Encanto was pretty good about not having too many stereotypes.
@pingu5614
2 жыл бұрын
@@8lavenderrose8 HAHHAHAHHAHAHA Mexican!? Hahahhahahahhaa did they not watch the same movie as the rest of us with the HUGE Colombia sign at the very beginning of the movie?
@katymbeke8400
3 жыл бұрын
As a young girl the "I'm not like other girls" characters always made me feel like I wasn't good enough because I related more to the other characters which would be the side characters.
@cptpugsy
3 жыл бұрын
the quote at 1:11:39 acc made me cryyy. im white british so i definitely dont face the same experience in representation, but being such a tomboy lesbian, as a kid i never saw anyone like me, and when i did it was always superficial, like they play football so that means theyre boyish enough. its the same as when theyd turn out to be straight id get so upset id feel weirdly betrayed bc i never had anyone who fully felt like me. so when the owl house on disney came out recently, it was the FIRST time id seen myself as a character in a kids show like the protag is an androgynous bisexual kid. for it to move me that much when i watched it at 20 really shows how deprived minorities are ESPECIALLY children for representation. honestly my dream one day is to make smthn that is so inclusive and makes every kid watching it get excited seeing themselves on the screen.
@ruliak
3 жыл бұрын
The first 30 seconds of this video: "Did you experience a racial stereotype that translated into real life harm...and were any or all of those on the Disney Channel?" Fucking OOF. So poignant.
@Cattleya69
3 жыл бұрын
I remember the only time Karan Brar was allowed to use his natural accent on Jessie was when Bertram was in Ravi’s body.
@Cattleya69
2 жыл бұрын
@Rokenrol Bro 2019 Yup. And it sounded really cringy.
@Camphorous
3 жыл бұрын
I was really surprised when my friend, a generally nice person, was voted prom queen. Then I stopped and thought about it, and realized one becomes popular by being friends with a lot of people, which requires being a generally nice person. High school was a long time ago, but it passes the logic test.
@chickenpermission6969
2 жыл бұрын
from what i’ve heard from thai people, amphibia-with disney’s first openly thai and proud character-is fairly good representation. there’s even an episode called “lily pad thai” where anne’s thai culture is explored through her cultural dress and food in conjunction with the fantasy frog world she’s stuck in. her thai immigrant parents seem to be like real people (as far as i can comment since i’m white and adore the show) and the show is pretty casual when it comes to anne talking about her culture, she’s clearly american but she embraces her culture and i think it’s really cool that a southeastern asian character can be proud of their culture like us white americans have been able to forever. plus she’s voiced by brenda song! again, i’m white so i can’t speak to the struggles of southeastern asians or asians in general but it is refreshing to see a darker-skinned asian character in a (hopefully) non-stereotypical light
@HiKONiCONiCO
3 жыл бұрын
Omg. the lizard being named after an imperialist took me out. I hate it here. ☠☠☠ This was such a great deep dive into the disney channel and well executed!
@CheyenneLin
3 жыл бұрын
thank you!!
@haleywagner2827
3 жыл бұрын
I did not realize that until just now😱….AND I TOOK AN IMPERIALISM COURSE🤦🏻♀️
@graygarland
3 жыл бұрын
This video was so good, thank you for making it! Also, as an autistic person who suffers from auditory processing issues, I can't tell you how much I appreciate that you went to the trouble to put subtitles on this video. I know KZitem took away community subtitling and is making things progressively harder on creators, so I'm pretty sympathetic to those who don't have the time or energy to subtitle their videos. But it makes it so much easier on me when I have subtitles to refer to. These issues fluctuate and at its worst, I sometimes have to _completely_ rely on the subtitles to understand what's being said in videos. 😣
@mollymelon2262
3 жыл бұрын
Sharpay is the Rachel Berry of High School Musical. Great video btw! So informative and well-researched!
@caitlingill
2 жыл бұрын
Sharpay is amazing, iconic and actually likable though while Rachel is whiny, annoying and very unlikable aside from a few moments here and there.
@lovielovienickiiii
3 жыл бұрын
you won't believe I have been rewatching your video essays because I needed content and searching all of youtube for essays all day and then I see you post, I feel so good rn. Friday night saved
@alexabuu
3 жыл бұрын
The fit was on point this video haha. I also really enjoyed you mentioning fighting over scraps for representation. I’ve noticed it myself but I haven’t heard anyone explain it as well as you! ❤️
@kayakat1869
3 жыл бұрын
How could anyone come at Phil Lamar? He's one of my favorite VAs and he has voiced characters of all races. I don't think anyone else could have voiced Samurai Jack.
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254
3 жыл бұрын
He isn't caricaturing like say....Hank Azaria
@hayleymarks5224
3 жыл бұрын
Hot take- I feel that Gabriella and Taylor were properly fleshed out, nuanced characters even if Sharpay got the “fun” musical numbers. They were independent, ambitious (Taylor has a line in HSM 3 about aspiring to be the president of the United States) and they are also flawed and nuanced, but not villainised for it. Taylor especially comes off to me as complex because of her “nlog-ness” like when she makes fun of the cheerleaders and thinks of herself as better because she chooses to focus on academia. I also feel like Gabriella and Taylor are good representation of POC characters, in that their race does not become a personality trait. They could be played by anyone and their characters would not change. Yhara Zayd has an excellent video on Black women and girls in teen media and representation that I super recommend. Just my two cents :) Also! You gotta watch American Dragon. Amazing show!
@worshipthecomedygodseoeunk4010
3 жыл бұрын
you know its really sad because i remember as a korean adopted kid living in a white suburb seeing jake long and asking myself how is he an american dragon when hes chinese🤦♀️and i think the reason is that i had a hard time identifying with asian characters growing up since...i grew up so white. but then so did jake long...i mean he doesnt have asian friends, he has a white dad, and hes pretty much your run of the mill 2nd gen asian american kid. it really shows how as asian americans trying to assimilate and belong, even we can fall into believing in the idea of a perpetual foreigner. the only asian character i related to was gabriella montez but it was more because she was the quiet shy bookworm who liked to sing than being asian. its so crazy though how we can buy into ideas and stereotypes that affect us negatively, and the lack of stereotype free, "normal" multi dimensional characters of color really plays into real life. i know i shunned a lot of potential asian friends while i was dressing up like disney characters and laughing at racist jokes with my white peers.
@refaelscialom4998
3 жыл бұрын
9:16 - its a really great point and i just wanted to add that often people act as if movies like black panther or crazy rich asians just appeared out of thin air. saying "why cant we have a (non-black ethnicity) black panther" ignores the fact that ryan coogler, a black man, fought to make and made this movie. like, im gonna speak from my experience as a jewish person - the reason there are so many (white) "jewish focused" movies (like fiddler on the roof, yentl, etc.) is bc of the jewish american history in hollywood and filmmaking as a whole. there are many "jewish focused" movies in hollywood, but not in for example england, because of the amount of jewish american creators who fought and still fight to share their stories. saying "why isnt there a x (example of a hard work of marginalized creators)" isnt a call for representation, it's erasure of decades, centuries and millennias of oppression.
@arionbriyel4324
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think she is a villain, I wasn’t seeing her as a white girl not winning, I saw her more as not taking girly people as not serious and feeling like you have to renounce your femininity to be taken seriously or to be interested in things like science. Like for example, as a black women I always have to fight to prove my femininity, but as a women in stem…. You have to give up that femininity you fought for and be “not like other girls” or proper background props to be accepted mildly in these fields
@Me-vn3gz
3 жыл бұрын
exactly!
@ognjensijak989
3 жыл бұрын
Ravi in the earlier episodes was more interesting and actually cool but later on he became a punching bag for everybody. But he was full of stereotypes.
@liliebilie
3 жыл бұрын
For some reason, as a kid I thought Penny Proud's mom was Asian, specifically Filipino and it wasn't until I got older that I realized the entire family was black. It's not even because her mother is light, I'm black and my own mother is very light skinned. I guess Trudy just reminded me of my friend's mom (same haircut, hair colour, skin tone, and she liked to wear green) and I didn't know the truth until I got older. I also thought Aladdin took place in India which isn't surprising since Disney decided to just mish mash multiple cultures from South Asia and the Middle East (a tiger named Raj, really Disney?). Sidenote: I think the Proud Family's episode about a Muslim family was very important but I remember feeling really uncomfortable by the language used when I was a child since my family is Muslim. I'm not saying they shouldn't have used it. It was just so spot on that it mirrored things I had heard at school. Especially since my family wasn't very religious and weren't "visibly Muslim" so often people didn't know I was Muslim and would say some pretty outrageous shit around me.
@emilylerman9028
2 жыл бұрын
I have a genuine question, and if I sound stupid, tone deaf, reductive, passive aggressive, etc. that is not on purpose. If you know the answer but don't have the mental energy to tell me, that's okay. I'm willing to look things up on my own by being pointed in the right direction. How is it okay for non-Asian PoC to voice Asian characters but it's not okay for non-Asian PoC to draw Asian characters?
@RezGirlGlamWithKathleen
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I think we are around the same age and I grew up with all these shows and well and agree with a lot of what you had to say but am reminded and saddened how there is zero representation of Native American/indigenous people in these shows. Makes me want to talk about how it perpetuates the notion that was existed in the past and we are no longer here which is so untrue
@ohbooyourselves
3 жыл бұрын
Favorite Dcom? Maybe cheetah girls, jump in, twitches, or Halloween town. Update: gotta add minute men in there too.
@casir.7407
3 жыл бұрын
53:41 im a white latina living in south america, and still, seeing any "latino" character in a movie makes me grit my teeth in fear of seeing Another stereotype, especially mexican ones, both because of how overused they are, and how they tend to paint all of latinamerica as one single culture
@mnunezhk
3 жыл бұрын
as a white latina you should really open your perspective. ALL latin american telenovelas cast a majority white cast. there is not enough representation of the majority and even less representation of Afro-Latinos
@user-fe8uq9zp2g
Жыл бұрын
@@mnunezhkthis term of white Latino first of all should be banished cus Latino is seen as a whole different ethnic group as a whole and while some are light dark moreno etc we were all treated as different especially back then. As soon as someone heard you speak Spanish you didn’t get special treatment you were seen as Latino point blank period. We did have morenas like Chanel from Cheetah girls (Adrienne Bailón) and she was also Caribbean which is refreshing to see other than the standard Mexican. Yes of course we can definitely use more Afro Latinos too. We also had Lacienaga in Proud Family.
@jessicavictoriacarrillo7254
3 жыл бұрын
Them: "You are not like other girls" Me, an Aspie: "Gee, thanks for reminding me. I knew that since birth." Anyone find it weird that the Proud Family school is strange that they are switching students' households? I can imagine it to be a liability in so many ways. Muslim Mom has a S shaped curve silhouette like some Turn of the Century Gibson girl. Also Mr. Webb just wanted to nab a student's food.
@everestbond9573
Жыл бұрын
I'd just like to let you know that "Asperger's" (which you shortened to aspie) is an outdated term with a pretty negative origin just in case you didn't know /gen
@marst5914
3 жыл бұрын
Come Clean (that video clip gave me war flashbacks) This is a great video and you hit each point perfectly. I had no idea some of these characters actually incited even more bullying but that makes a lot of sense. Even me as a middle school child could see that Ravi was depicting a caricature of an Indian person. And I relate to what you said about having difficulty sharing Chinese culture with you peers. I remember dreading when a black person/back culture would come up in class because I knew the white kids (and also the Chaldean kids..??) would use it as ammunition to bully me even more than they already were. It was even worse when we got to learning about slavery.
@cameronnorris2055
3 жыл бұрын
most, if not all the cheerleaders at my high school are in honors/AP classes, I don't know how they do it, they have practice at 6am!
@lonnyoliveira8913
3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciated how both London and Maddie defeated their own stereotypes in the show by showing not all Asian women have to just be known for intelligence and can have many more diverse personalities even if it’s being “shallow” or “loving fashion” and how Maddie defeated the “dumb blonde girl” stereotype showing how anyone can have intellect despite basic biological physical traits. This was similar to what was displayed in the legally blonde movie series.
@Sam-kd2sd
3 жыл бұрын
As a Chinese adoptee, and with a family that didn’t really include much Chinese culture in my raising, I basically looked to media for most information about it. And yeah that wasn’t great considering most media focused on east Asians and adoption is terrible. Realizing how that negatively affected my view of my ethnicity has been a journey. Loved your vid, great points and related to a lot of it
@carolinea6769
3 жыл бұрын
I knew Vanessa Hudgens was part-Filipina, but I gotta admit, I thought Gabriealla Montez was Latina as a kid (lol, maybe because as a Latina kid, it's hard to find representations of us that aren't reductive stereotypes, and I saw myself in that character). But also, I always thought that Gabriella's character was eerily similar to the character of Bonnie Lopez from the DCOM Luck of the Irish. I mean, come on, the scene where Bonnie makes the free throw shot and says "I know more about basketball than you think" is copy and pasted shot for shot into HSM!
@TerranceGeorge222
3 жыл бұрын
This is gonna be a good one
@lemonstarofficial
3 жыл бұрын
ok
@Butternickle
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for calling out how some character designers make their POC designs look like caricatures! I honestly really hate how some Character designers will blatantly make offensive designs but then try to pass it off as "S h a p e l a n g u a g e" or "e x a g g e r a t i n g F e a t u r e s" .You can make a character have HEAVY shapes and exaggeration without always making them look questionable. There are so many cool features you can give a character that doesn't fall into a problematic design.
@manulimali
3 жыл бұрын
Although I’m from the era before Girl Meets World, I think it’s one of the best Disney Channel has ever made THOUGH the episode that had the Communism “vs. Democracy” theme felt very problematic and disingenuous with quite strong American imperialism undertones; when Communism and Democracy aren’t even in the same category (when the real contrast in this case, would be Communism vs. Capitalism). Without this distinction, it seemed like they didn’t want to address the issues within Capitalism at all, and how there can be democracy in communism (at least theoretically) and models other than democracy in capitalism (like it happened in many many countries that had/has dictatorships).
@naomiheart1863
3 жыл бұрын
Una palabra, VENEZUELA
@theindigoboogeyman243
3 жыл бұрын
The song is Come Clean by Hillary Duff. I don't have much to add other than great video, I find it so weird that Disney started off on the right foot at first, but then regressed after 2005. Idk, like you said, maybe it could've been a change in staff or the replacement of Disney's CEO? The whole thing's kinda odd.🤔
@ladydeath3463
3 жыл бұрын
As a multiethnic adoptee who was adopted later in life at age 10. I was always expected to be grateful. That you are lucky you even got adopted at all. I was adopted by a single lightskinned black woman so i "fit in" because of my skin tone but it also erased my very diverse cultural background that I'm still struggling to learn more about now. I am grateful aside from things i won't get into like trauma because of the foster system. But it's hard to identify with anyone in media because of it.
@spazzyshortgirl23
3 жыл бұрын
So... No Baljeet from Phineas and Ferb?
@ElizabethMidfordHatesCops
3 жыл бұрын
38:30 What's funny about people getting upset about Sharpay not getting redeemed, is that she was. Sharpay's Fabulous Adventure is a thing.
@lstarsabb
3 жыл бұрын
The funnier thing is that Sharpay and Ryan were suppose to be black but Disney was afraid of excluding the white fans so they brought in Taylor and Chad (the supporting friends) as a compromise.
@faithkincaid
Жыл бұрын
i love taking a step back and listening to another person talk about their own issues. i love it.
@felixqwq8370
2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for talking about the infighting and they " well this group gets this but why not us" It makes me really upset to see, i wish everyone can get their shows that are for them-by them .. i don't think fighting about who has what does anything good, just makes everyone feel bad
@sophlaa17
2 жыл бұрын
This was such an interesting video, thank you for taking the time to make this and share it! Growing up Jewish in a majority Italian Catholic town in NJ made me hate who I was and try to downplay my "Jewishness" (I have a huge nose though so people would always point that out....) I found a friend group that made me feel good, though, we were "outcasts," everyone was a different ethnicity that was sort of shunned by the rest of the school (awful, I know). We had Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Indian, Russian, Syrian, and Croatian representation in our group and it was so wonderful growing up learning about all of those cultures from my friends. I remember being in history class with my Syrian friend and learning about the war between Israel and Syria. The two of us had such a powerful conversation about it after. It was definitely a different experience than my peers who didn't expand their friendships past those similar to them and I think it has helped me have a more open mind and to be able to stand up for my friends' cultures when they weren't there. Being friends with those amazing girls meant I was trying their homecooking during sleepovers and learning about their holidays and religion. I recently saw a South Asian woman speak about how Ramadan was seen as a horrible thing when she was growing up and that her peers thought it was stupid, but learning about Ramadan and supporting my friends who practiced was just part of my childhood, like when they would support me through Yom Kippur. Our differences brought us together and helped us realize that we really weren't so different after all.
@starxmon
3 жыл бұрын
your videos honestly needed to be watched and studied in school - i learn so much, that i can't believe it's free
@heatherlee2967
3 жыл бұрын
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@jzmina
3 жыл бұрын
As the only black person in a class of 8 people taking mandarin in middle and high school, I cannot imagine actually being Asian and constantly facing the bullying i got just for LEARNING about a new language and culture. The shear number of times I’ve had to hold my tongue while kids made pots and pans sounds to belittle all my hard work... I’m fuming just thinking about it
@cookiesyruplover
3 жыл бұрын
I just found you on my recommended and I'm so glad I did. This video is so in-depth! Not only do I feel nostalgia, I'm also seeing all the things these shows have done to shape my perspective as I grew up. I just accepted them as is, I didn't question it or think it could be offensive. Also I think the Sharpay topic resurgence is because of Film Theory channel where there's a theory about Troy being the real bad guy and how Sharpay can't catch a break despite putting so much effort in her schemes. Troy just gets what he wants after mulling about it in a song. That video brought up the Sharpay movie to light to many who didn't even know it existed (including me) but I think you're right at how easy it is to turn rich white women into "victims" even when they serve a role in the film. Can't wait to watch more of your insightful videos! Great work!
@tinytaleah
2 жыл бұрын
Kinda unrelated, but The Owl House actually has a Dominican lead and The Ghost and Molly Mcgee has a Thai-American(?)lead so that’s good 😄 Also, as a kid I hated how they treated Ravi as the “nerdy loser with no friends”, Zuri was the “sassy black girl who loves scamming people” and Emma and Luke were “the perfect cool ones who have lots of friends and can always get a date”
@875amy
3 жыл бұрын
Isn't there an episode where there are different dragons from around the world at a conference in Jake Long? I really loved the lore in that episode
@XxChunkieMonkeyxX
3 жыл бұрын
I’m obsessed with every one of your videos! Thanks for all the hard work Cheyenne !!!
@toribarlow1000
3 жыл бұрын
Tbh I loved sharpay. Yes she's very stereotypically feminine but she is smart too. I do wish they would have done more with Gabriella though
@jadaeh2401
3 жыл бұрын
disney really thought they did something revolutionary when they made an asain girl super ditsy and the white blond girl super smart🤣🤣🤣🤣
@heykayrenee_
3 жыл бұрын
You really are my favorite human being! 🥺👏🏾
@samb7348
3 жыл бұрын
I fucking love your videos, great opinions and love the long videos, honestly wish they where longer! When I get a job I’ll probably join your patron
@Fnukysknuk
3 жыл бұрын
I think as a white person, growing up watching shows where the POC were always ¿Unfavorable? Characters really shaped the way my young self viewed poc. They were always the villains or the mean girl or obnoxious in some way and I didn't even see that as an issue until I realized it was affecting the way I saw real actual people. I think that's something that definitely needs to change on tv, particularly kids tv (idk if that change has started yet bc I don't watch tv anymore )
@BritneyT.
3 жыл бұрын
Also thank you for talking about the navigating the different perceptions around being adopted as an adoptee. I am ""ethically ambiguous"" and adopted, and have been starving for a perspective similar to mine
@oyinkansolaadebajo9716
3 жыл бұрын
I really wish you talked about Amphibia. There's only so much I can say as a black woman, but it does have Brenda Song as the lead character and the show focuses on her Thai roots in a casual way. Other than that, I really resonated with this video.
@XiaoIsMyHusbandBTW
3 жыл бұрын
It wouldn’t work in this video because she’s talking about early 2000’s Disney channel and amphibia is really new
@_cocopxffs
3 жыл бұрын
Why am I not surprised that Disney was not thinking about making a person of color a main character for Andi Mack 🙄. If Peyton Elizabeth Lee wasn't as good as an actress that we would just have another Girl Meets World, but cancelled after one season 😒.
@muse5633
3 жыл бұрын
Everytime that bullying graph comes up... 😂📈
@thatmessy132
3 жыл бұрын
I thought Vanessa Hudgens was white and so the Sharpay v Gabrielle fight was always "girly girl" v "NLOG" (I didn't have this exact language)- I was smart and girly (and a boy) so I always sided with Sharpay. Pre-2005 Disney had Chekov's race: if you're non-white, you better have a good reason for doing so. *I don't know the Hillary Duff song
@heatherlee2967
3 жыл бұрын
That's the one thing-- while it's good to have good messages and purposes for characters who are POC, it's quite strange to assume that they can't just be POC because POC just exists in real life.
@Melanie-jy2nw
3 жыл бұрын
I never got the Gabriella was NLOG thing. She was smart and girly. She dressed very feminine and girly. A toned down girly but why is wearing pink the requirement for girly? Plus, she never spoke negatively of other girls for liking the stereotypical “girly” stuff. I just don’t get where the idea of Gabriella being NLOG came from.
@thatmessy132
3 жыл бұрын
@@Melanie-jy2nwI think it's short hand. Sharpay's girly-ness gets turned up to 100 with pink and sparkly everything, and Gabriel is contrasted as "down to earth" not like the cheerleaders and Sharpay. It's not NLOG as we know it today but she's different from the girls Troy 'should' be dating.
@firstnamelastname7708
3 жыл бұрын
Come Clean by Hilary Duff. It’s interesting that people mock Asians using Ravi from Jessie. As a child classmates and even my family members (they are a different race) mocked me with Apu from the Simpsons and Rajesh from the Big Bang Theory, so it’s interesting to see how the mockery is updated with each new generation. I was the only person of my race in our area so I didn’t realize how common the Apu thing was until I read an interview with an Asian band years later and they mentioned they had all been called Apu as well. A lot of the points you made I feel deeply. People don’t even harass me with a consistent culture. After 9/11 people started associating me with Islamic terrorists. The same people who’d previously said I worship cows. I had a teacher assume and ask me out of nowhere to explain Gypsies to the class, as though I was one. I’ve been bowed to in public and greeted with “namaste” before I even knew what that meant. I’m frequently told to go back to countries I’ve never been to. I have no accent and speak only English but I’m asked “where are you from” (followed by “no, where are you REALLY from”) by strangers ALL the time.
@ambriaashley3383
3 жыл бұрын
ugh. I'm so sorry people have been so incredibly ignorant & hurtful to you 💔 "Where are you really from?" is such a dumbass question, too. A) it's none of their business and B) They could ask "What's your ethnicity?" or phrase it in a hundred other ways that don't imply that you don't 'belong' here, which you DO.
@firstnamelastname7708
3 жыл бұрын
@@ambriaashley3383 I appreciate your kind words.✌️
@bunnychan8885
3 жыл бұрын
This was so interesting and informative! I watched the whole thing in one go.
@heatherlee2967
3 жыл бұрын
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@Eriko-cy7iy
3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos! Keep them coming!
@missallsunday3926
3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always so thought provoking and interesting. Love your content!
@Intoxicatingaxe
2 жыл бұрын
It's interesting. I think at one point when Asian characters where becoming Cool TM (usually in theory but not for real Asian Americans who struggled with bullying) they ended up making them the bullies. Which is ironic and must have made Asian American students feel so much more isolated
@maggiedk
3 жыл бұрын
"kung fu does you" fucking killed me 😂
@zagrdatrgamr
3 жыл бұрын
This will sound really really stupid but as a young Hispanic child my dream was to be a white girl. I felt burdened by my Hispanic culture and the responsibilities that came with it and I associated being white as being well off and with no real issues in life. I wanted to be a two dimensional “white girl” with the perfect family, generally well liked by peers and with quirky interests. I honestly feel like Disney pushed this ideal a lot for me when I was younger and the generational racism (? Don’t know if it’s the right term here) of being lighter skin = being wealthy always making me feel like I was never good enough. Like I was never good enough to be the main character of my own life. Um sorry for rambling but the video made me reflect a lot about this
@ambriaashley3383
3 жыл бұрын
that's not stupid! sadly, I know a lot of girls who felt that way as kids, including friends in the Black community who wished they were white. it's hard to think differently when that's all you see on TV and media, & the USA standard of beauty for so long (and still is, in many cases) was a pretty, thin, blonde, white person. I hope that you are in a better place now! I hope you feel as confident, secure, and in love with your heritage/yourself as this crazy world allows 💕
@rainbow.fr0g
3 жыл бұрын
I loved Jessie when I was younger but I really haven’t seen it since then. Honestly seeing how racist this show actually was isn’t making want to rewatch it. As a black person, I knew that Zuri was the stereotypical “sassy black girl” but Ravi is way worse. I feel bad for Indian kids that got bullied because of this character that was mocking what it claimed to represent. It really is sad that Disney Channel trying to represent other cultures just made those cultures look bad.
@varshini555
3 жыл бұрын
😩Eyyyyy looking extra pretttyyyy this timee✨👄✨ I always listen to your videos when I practice my sketching... They're relaxing yet so informative... Love your videos!
@avamaenelson3907
2 жыл бұрын
As a white person, I found this very enlightening, and it talked about many things I have never thought of before. Thanks for educating me!
@digimonalvatrax2738
3 жыл бұрын
London and Mosby carried both shows.
@XiaoIsMyHusbandBTW
3 жыл бұрын
TBH
@tyarahernandez9291
3 жыл бұрын
Wendy Wu Homecoming Warrior and literally every other DCom with Brenda song and also the Halloweentown series and Twitches😌 I do realize these representations of Asian Americans are also pretty shallow due to the time and WWHW could’ve really been better in it’s storytelling. Man that song at the end Idk the name but that clip seems so familiar.
@pilot8220
Жыл бұрын
I know your focus was on the early 2000's Disney, but do you recall that one Disney film Johnny Tsunami, its about a Hawaiian surfer beach kid, who has to move to snowy Vermont cause his Dad got a new job there. He hates it, he gets bullied by the other kids, but ends up befreinding a Black kid who teaches him about snowboarding, his dad was played by Yuji Okumoto, he played the villian Chozen in Karate Kid 2, and Johnny Uncle was played by Cary Hirokugawa, he played Shang Tsung in Mortal Kombat 1995, it was funny seeing him in a family film, cause he normally plays villian roles. There is a sequel, but I didnt see it, check it out
@taylorj6038
3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos, but I feel like you were a bit off about Sharpay. The changing pop-opinion about her character has nothing to do with “protecting white feminine women,” it’s about realizing that the “girly girls are evil” trope is toxic, and also recognizing that (based on talent, ambition, and hard work) Sharpay deserved the scholarship.
@madeinyusei-8708
3 жыл бұрын
but so did ryan and chelsea, while sharpay suffers from the villinazation of hyper-feminity, that doesn't make her character a victim within the movie reality, which is what fans are trying to turn her into, and theyre doing so by villanizing other characthers(mostly the other women characters).
@lockheart619
3 жыл бұрын
I like that you added south asians and not just east asians because I feel like they get left out of the conversation a lot of the time.
@9Fashionista411
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your “fighting for scraps” sections because I always had this sentiment but couldn’t put it into words as well as you did!! Along the same lines, People critiqued Crazy Rich Asians for not being “Singaporean” enough or speaking too much English. And people critique casting Lana Candor in “to all the boys” because she’s a Viet adoptee and not Korean like her character is. I hope people can enjoy Asian American representation made by Asian producers/writers and casting Asians in non-stereotypical roles for just that, instead of critiquing so many things that typical white ppl movies wouldn’t even bother focusing on.
@candelaplescach78
3 жыл бұрын
This video was really good and interesting. I, myself am Latina and I don’t remember seeing a lot of characters being Latinos. I would love if someone in the comments could name some Latino characters and how they were represented!
@user-fe8uq9zp2g
Жыл бұрын
Lacienaga, Chanel from a cheetah girls (she was also in Thats so Raven)
@MichellaneousMe
3 жыл бұрын
This was so good! I didn’t even realize it was over and hour long!! I learned so much from this video. Thanks for sharing 💕
@soynymphfaery
3 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy you brought up the poc fighting each other over representation. Rarely do people speak on it.
@amarisb7596
3 жыл бұрын
1:05:39 omg this is so true even for me- im wasian but im white passing and ive had people tell me 'i dont consider you asian' before. like its so alienating just coz im only half asian doesnt discount me from the conversation (at least i hope not). sometimes when i speak on race people dont take me seriously because 'shes basically white'. like yes, i am white passing so i dont face discrimination on nearly the same level but im STILL ASIAN. im making myself annoyed holy shit
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