Just to repeat what others have said - thanks for playing modern stuff in your demos. It's really appreciated. I was racking my brain for a while there, but finally got the Radiohead Jigsaw tune at 2:36! Lovely stuff, cheers.
@ExplicableCashew
5 жыл бұрын
Man, most guitar gear reviewers don't play in the styles that I like, so I'm so happy I found you!! Someone might be reviewing a distorted sound and then only play a solo with a lot of reverb, or go straight metal -- which is nice, but I'll still have no idea if it works for something like Fall Out Boy etc. Your musical influences are so well aligned with mine, it's always a joy to watch.
@TobysGuitarGearDemos
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback, It really does help 👍
@beau-2222
5 жыл бұрын
Best review channel. The only true one in my opinion.
@TobysGuitarGearDemos
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate 👍
@DLC-music
4 жыл бұрын
Totally!
@CreeplessOfficial
3 жыл бұрын
it's fucking difficult to find demos like this. Nice quality and taste.
@AaronYoon
4 жыл бұрын
Wow this is literally the best amp comparison video channel ever. This video was exactly what I was looking for
@retrofloppyOfficial
5 жыл бұрын
Man I so fell in love with the TH30 from your demos I need to get myself one. Never heard anything as pleasing as the sound of those orange amps, even marshalls never really sounded that great to me.
@dickieradd
3 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge fan of a shape or contour knob versus EQ. It's the exact same thing as going back and forth with the treble and mids, but all in one sweep. It has a tone for everyone in it.
@Walkerbjj
3 жыл бұрын
I'm a boutique gear snob BUT seriously considering a th30...I've heard lots of clips that sound amazing and I love the simplicity of it
@maconpittman9188
5 жыл бұрын
Definitely a very similar dirty channel, but I prefer the th30 because of all the power options and the dedicated clean channel
@jej3films
2 жыл бұрын
Seriously the best reviews on YT! I ended up buying my TH30 because of one of your videos 😎
@TobysGuitarGearDemos
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, really does help 👍
@copeenthuisiast5453
5 жыл бұрын
You seriously do the best amp demos on youtube!
@TobysGuitarGearDemos
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I really appreciate it 👍
@bxbbyxx
4 жыл бұрын
Clean on the dark terror surprised me, so nice
@TobysGuitarGearDemos
5 жыл бұрын
🎸FAQs/Thoughts🎸- Let me know your favourites! Both recorded using the new Orange PPC212V 👍. Interesting comparison, quite similar. The TH30 has a bit more grunt in the mids with more high end attack. The Dark Terror is a little more smooth/compressed and slightly less gain, although all very subtle. Both are great choices. If you only need one channel DT’s the one. If you want two channels and more power go TH30 👍
@carlericsson7349
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’m so glad to see someone demoing modern sounds that people actually play (or in my case try to), instead of some weird ass blues lick that expired before the Ice age ended. Keep up the good work!
@zeestrees2780
Жыл бұрын
Actually though
@toemasmeems
4 жыл бұрын
They sounded the same as far as distortion i own the jim root terror i LOVE IT
@kmw5100
2 жыл бұрын
You had me at The Middle. TH30 seems like a great amp for that style right out of the box, very simple controls, just a perfect thick crunch.
@michaelmitchell5909
5 жыл бұрын
I owned a dark terror, traded in on the th 30, ....that runs thru an orange 2x12, with a whirlwind 10 band eq thru the effects loop... Sounds sick!...I love orange gear, never had any problems so far...
@chusmusic
5 жыл бұрын
Hi Michael, that's the thing about this amp. I'm not totally sure about that 2 band with shape EQ. About the whirlwind, Are you running also delay and reverb in the loop? Is the EQ affecting them as well you put it before them?
@bradleydrawsweirdstuff
Жыл бұрын
Great video! Very right to the point no wasted time, or long lecture for 10 minutes about the history of orange. Both amp heads sound awesome
@GarryWan666
4 жыл бұрын
Even though I am a Marshall fan, I am still glad to hear some more modern punk rock here!
@xthexadvantagex
5 жыл бұрын
I much prefer the TH but I weirdly think the terror would stand out better in a mix or live
@jensvide777
3 жыл бұрын
You might be right. I have the Dark Terror and it has a lot of high end. I like to roll the tone control on my guitar down when I'm playing alone so it's not so harsh.
@thesuppcollector
2 жыл бұрын
I had the th30, ran it though a 2x12 closed back with eminence speakers and it had a really hard time cutting through the mix with just drums at a band practice
@Ron4president09
2 жыл бұрын
@@thesuppcollector eminence sounds great solo but seem to lack some of the mids needed to cut through live mix. I bet a celestion v30/g12h70/or creamback would have done a much better job cutting through
@scootergreen3
3 жыл бұрын
This is the best demo I've ever seen, you played the exact same thing on both amps which is what I want and you used shape control! Excellent tunes with good taste as well.
@belatoth178
3 жыл бұрын
Your comparison is correct and it gave me an incentive to engage myself in a TH30
@FlorianGuitar85
5 жыл бұрын
KZitem's BEST amp review channel! Toby, get some merch going, how about a shirt saying "Less talking, more chugging!"? I would definitely buy one 😎 You're working your ass off with really great and useful content, you should at least be patronized in some way.
@TobysGuitarGearDemos
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, it's really appreciated. That's a decent idea. I might look at doing something when i reach 5k subscribers 👍
@neoaureus
4 жыл бұрын
Well After your videos I got a TH30 combo ....and a Micro Dark....
@fioredeiliberi9552
2 жыл бұрын
Me too, TH30 and Micro Dark :-))))
@allgamingnetwork9448
3 жыл бұрын
you just had to hit me in the feels right away huh
@Da_Publick
9 күн бұрын
Even these two amps go by Orange's _'no Gain before 10 o'clock'_ rule.
@Mike_the_Barbarian
4 жыл бұрын
Bought the TH30h due to this video.. outstanding playing. The Jimmy Eat world song really showed off what this amp shines at.. Perfect for the pop punk I love to play. The Dark Terror was no slouch as well.. but something about the TH30 stood out.
@xEvilASh
3 жыл бұрын
How’s the amp? You happy with the tones you’re getting? Can it do Blink 182, Green Day, sum 41 etc?
@AdamBuntain
5 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison. Love the TH30. I was given one as a backline amp on a recent tour and I liked it so much that I immediately bought one when I got home. On that trip I used the dirty channel through a bunch of different cabinets in small/medium clubs and outdoor festivals and it rocked, not one complaint. Plenty of volume and great sound. Since I've owned one I have discovered that I prefer the clean channel. Very responsive, just classic guitar tone. With an overdrive pedal or two it wails. The ability to switch the wattage down to 7W is cool but that 7W is still loud as heck, probably too much for an apartment setting. Orange amps are impressive these days, I wouldn't mind having a couple more of them.
@TobysGuitarGearDemos
5 жыл бұрын
Yeh 🍊 are killing it at the moment 👍
@Prossdog
2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t choose an Orange for anything mid gain personally, but man those pure cleans and metal tones are incredible. They’re bright and clear but still fat and round. It’s such a unique character.
@DLC-music
4 жыл бұрын
I like the Th30!!! Super Versatile!
@TheOtherJohnBrowne
5 жыл бұрын
CHUGGADY CHUG! 😂
@alexreich5996
5 жыл бұрын
I really prefer the cleans of the Dark Terror, but all of the dirty sounds of the TH30 over the D.T.
@pwatermountain
5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you for showing the backsides and EQs of the amps ;) I'm happy with my Dark Terror but if I ever need a second channel live I'll think about the TH30 now! thx
@HighGainsDrifter
3 жыл бұрын
This was a really great review. I love orange and you really highlighted the versatility. Subscription worthy!
@crapuleverte
5 жыл бұрын
The Dark Terror sounds a bit more compressed to me ; but still a great valve head ! I would however consider a TH30 for the dedicated clean channel.
@markmcgeachy
2 жыл бұрын
" chuggady chug " . lmao . fucking love it !
@hannibalbarca4140
5 жыл бұрын
Both sound amazing- Dark Terror is half the price.
@zuckeraffen7803
3 жыл бұрын
and half the power and half the channels :D
@doomorbedoomed8748
2 жыл бұрын
DT is a great amp, but really a one trick pony. Notice that for the cleans, the volume had to be maxed out.
@brianbeattie4358
5 жыл бұрын
Great demo. Really digging the Dark Terror.
@LoreAccurateHusky
2 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to think I may have slept on that TH30. I dissmissed it for the "shape" control but that amps sounds pretty monstrous for a simple 30 watt amp. I may give this amp a try the next time I see it and see how well it handles high gain.
@bjornfsteen
4 жыл бұрын
The Dark Terror was able to keep up across the board with the various dirty tones, but not with the clean tones. So if you're playing all or mostly metal I think the Dark Terror is the clear choice based on cost. But the bigger amp is more of a complete amp, for more uses. Before seeing this demo I was considering the Dark Terror, but not anymore. I like clean tones and sometimes I play a Tele or Strat, and I think the Dark Terror would suck for those tones.
@FEAROWNAGE
2 жыл бұрын
Would love to have a Dark Terror.
@iiivanoeee651
4 жыл бұрын
I was looking for a clean sample od this amp, the Radiohead song it the thing that will make me have this amp, thx for this!!
@Sigi_Pojara
3 жыл бұрын
Whats the title of this song? I cant remember :D
@alexm-bx5hy
4 жыл бұрын
Great playing dude thanks for this review
@prosperity-gospel
3 жыл бұрын
To my ears, the Dark Terror kept up pretty well in the high gain clips, but the clean side just wasn't as good as the TH30's clean channel. Thanks to your channel, I've been able to hear very clear comparisons between the Orange amps and was able to finally pick the one I wanted (just ordered the TH30).
@xEvilASh
3 жыл бұрын
So how is the TH30 working out for you? Been thinking on pulling the trigger on one myself. I was originally interested on the OR15 but I really need 2 channels.
@prosperity-gospel
3 жыл бұрын
@@xEvilASh I really, really like it. It's become my favorite amp. The clean channel is really incredible, as you can hear here. The gain channel is excellent as well. I'm a big fan of the shape control vs a typical eq section, because you basically just find where it works best with your other gear and leave it there (in my experience it means less fiddling with it). The only situation where I wouldn't get one is if you want a wide range of sounds out of just one amp. There's no way you'll get a JCM or Blackface sound out of it; it's always going to sound like an Orange (which I think is awesome, but it's just not a super versatile amp).
@xEvilASh
3 жыл бұрын
@@prosperity-gospel that’s great! Sound wise I’m more of a Mesa guy but I really want to add an Orange. I always thought they looked so cool and from what I’ve seen the TH30 is probably what I’ll end up going with.
@geomusicmove
2 жыл бұрын
@@xEvilASh I am deciding what Orange amp to buy, so doing some research. How did you find the TH30 if you finally went for it.
@xEvilASh
2 жыл бұрын
@@geomusicmove I didn’t end up getting it. I picked up a Quad Cortex and I’m quite happy with it for now. I still have my mini recto so might add the Orange still sometime in the future.
@mozilla2576
5 жыл бұрын
Nice work, thank you!
@Starch1b2c3d4a
3 жыл бұрын
Damn. Didnt know the TH was this good
@robertciaschini7625
5 жыл бұрын
Very nice. It's a tough choice for me bc no footswitch or separate channels. It's a bit too simple but sounds nice.
@fuckayouman3869
4 жыл бұрын
i went specially to a specific rehearsal studio in my town pay one hour for a whole room without my band because they got a TH30 , i went to try it before i buy it , with my own cabinet , tube screamer and load box with cab sims into live mixer with 2 100watt speakers that its there for the vocal and here is my conclusions : 1- this amp with maxon 808 infront & MXR 6 band Eq in the loop can dial anything from the sweet 50s jazz to modern metal tone you will hear in the year 2050. 2- am buying it next month , leaving in Europe is awesome Thomann is next door
@p8emusic
6 ай бұрын
going to listen to radiohead now!!!! great demo dude!
@nelsonmuntz6408
5 жыл бұрын
I would say TH30 but both are nice And thanks for your vids !
@bratondoney8381
Жыл бұрын
Some old school 30 seconds to mars riffs let’s go
@lowqualityguitarvideos
5 жыл бұрын
Cleans on the TH30 are pretty
@BlickFangBand
4 жыл бұрын
They are the best
@Johnny--gd2fq
3 жыл бұрын
I think the TH sounds slightly better, but i mainly play metal so i guess the dark terror would be a better option for me!
@patrickarinelli6250
6 ай бұрын
I love th 30 but....dark terror got a bit more highs frequencies for the chords in general.... but nothing that putting a New old stock tube or an EQ that is simpler for most people would do the trick.
@serenysmusic
6 ай бұрын
That TH30 is so nasty. One of the best heads on the market imho
@maxmisbach6035
3 жыл бұрын
Great demo
@maylavsphilippineschannel4748
4 жыл бұрын
keep it up the good works bro. ..very nice youtube channel. ..
@geekzone1
4 жыл бұрын
I love the smoother drive of the TH-30, sounds great if you push the input a bit while reamping. Prefer the bright, crisp cleans of the Dark Terror. Also these sound really interesting through those neo creambacks. Much different than the V30s we're used to hearing.
@porlyworlyfantastic
3 жыл бұрын
i have the th30 and after watching this I like the terror more.. sounds like a pinker" tone, better transformer to me. sweeter top end and better curve on the shape knob from 9-12 oclock.. Hmmm..
@LeStraTele
3 жыл бұрын
TH30 sounds a bit fuller in the lows. Other than that, very similar.
@MetalManiacMan1313
4 жыл бұрын
I prefer the addtional headroom and the extra preamp tube in the TH30.
@LordLucidious
3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was an extra preamp tube too but it’s actually just a dedicated tube for the clean channels 1+2 gainstage. I wish it used all 3 on the dirty channel 6 gainstages would be crazy 😜
@franckydookie
Жыл бұрын
Th30 is better on clean, but damn that dark terror sounds fantastic
@HarvesterOfMisery
5 жыл бұрын
I like the sound of both but TH30 sounds just a bit better overall
@Antonyshong
Ай бұрын
TH30!❤🤘😎
@Alex-yu2wl
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@2000WTube
2 жыл бұрын
Very cool
@metalore
Жыл бұрын
Does the TH30 work well with pedals? I heard the Dark Terror doesn't, though I'm not sure why.
@TobysGuitarGearDemos
Жыл бұрын
They are similar the DT and the TH30. I think they both work well with pedals but it often depends on what you are putting through it. I’ve heard people say Vox’s don’t take pedals well but loads of famous guitarists run giant pedalboards into vox’s👍
@neoaureus
4 жыл бұрын
I just bought the Orange Two Stroke ...semi parametric frequency tone shaper ....to modify the Drive channel since it does not have bass and treble....
@TobysGuitarGearDemos
4 жыл бұрын
With the Two Stroke you'll be able to sculpt the sound massively 👍
@neoaureus
4 жыл бұрын
It just arrived after I posted the comment.... It's turned into a monster with the pedal...you are absolutely right! Superb pedal...the reviews don't do justice to it. Best part is that it turns the 30 watt ( OK run on 7 watt mode ) into a midnight bedroom amp. Thanks to the boost.
@robhowe8353
3 жыл бұрын
Dark Terror for the win!!!
@Gummmibaer
5 жыл бұрын
Dude you play like a Robot, so flawless! Wish I could play this steady when embarrsing myself in the studio. Do you have a built in metronome in your hands?
@TobysGuitarGearDemos
5 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks mate, I practice the riff over and over with a click then record the raw DI into a TC Electronic Looper Pedal. I can then play the looper back into each amp and they'll be in time with each other 👍
@Gummmibaer
5 жыл бұрын
@@TobysGuitarGearDemos nice job! And probably the best way to get a useful comparison. Keep it up!
@gearmaster_studio
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!!!!+++!!
@groverjuicy
3 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna come stay with you and live in a house made of amps and cabs... bliss.
@infest409
5 жыл бұрын
TH30 sounds better to my ears, especially with the overdrive.
@1thess523
Жыл бұрын
Not a huge difference, i think thr Terror had a little fizz on the top but nothing crazy at all. This might be on my list of its cheaper than an OR 15
@bergglobus2428
5 жыл бұрын
Had the chance to buy the Th30C (it was for sale) and the Or15H, but for my usage the Th30 is way to loud. The Or15H is great and you can get a solid volume out of it
@damianwoodlion2485
2 жыл бұрын
Hi there! Can someone make it clear to me about TH 30 hull's colour (Black colour compare with original orange one) Does it have any difference with sound or functionality , or..... It just a design variation and they are the same inside???
@TobysGuitarGearDemos
2 жыл бұрын
Identical apart from colour 👍
@damianwoodlion2485
2 жыл бұрын
@@TobysGuitarGearDemos Thank you !!!!!!
@righteous_entertainment8539
2 ай бұрын
Dark terror still has it even slipknot has used it it just a little affordable blade of metal destruction.
@neoaureus
4 жыл бұрын
hi Toby....I wonder is the frequency curve in the Mid scoop? Have you studied it?
@TheJak615
5 жыл бұрын
Radiohead!
@luissmoge
5 жыл бұрын
Great video as always!!! I'm waiting for the dark terror vs tiny terror
@TobysGuitarGearDemos
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, bigggg comparison coming soon 👍
@TheSWCantina
4 жыл бұрын
Can't make my mind up. aaaaaaaaaahhhhh
@Kapiwolf123
2 жыл бұрын
whats the song name. cause i cant remember for anything the title but i love that song
@heavymettl
2 жыл бұрын
The middle
@andrep0wly35
5 жыл бұрын
Any chance for a review from the new Marshall studio jcm800 sv20h? :)
@TobysGuitarGearDemos
5 жыл бұрын
I am hopeful it will happen in a couple months, looks an awesome amp 👍
@Ale-xf8sm
4 жыл бұрын
Th 30 for alice in chains stuff?
@haydenlince7420
4 жыл бұрын
I'd say so they are great amps I'm getting one soon for that style
@philippeverneris8956
5 жыл бұрын
Anybody talks about the price difference? 190 euros for the micro dark (1 kg) vs 970 euros for the TH30 (15 kg)... 15 W vs 30 W, however but the sound seems pretty similar to me!
@thejoanz
5 жыл бұрын
philippe verneris that’s not a micro dark. It’s a dark terror. Micro dark is a 20 watt hybrid.
@jimjim7008
4 жыл бұрын
Distortion TH30 wins by far
@andrep0wly35
5 жыл бұрын
Dark terror vs Jim root! :)
@skilak13
5 жыл бұрын
Have you tried to rund DT pre-amp through the TH30 power amp using the FX loop?
@TobysGuitarGearDemos
5 жыл бұрын
Naa but I think the TH30s power section has slightly more balls in the mid-range, so would add that 👍
@skilak13
5 жыл бұрын
@@TobysGuitarGearDemos thank you very much, and it would be fantastic if you could make a video showing this idea and so converting TH30 or BH/R15 into 3 way channel beast ;)
@73prd
3 жыл бұрын
Why does the dark terror sound louder and clearer
@massimozirilli3282
3 жыл бұрын
Which do you prefer TH30 vs Thunderverb 50? 😜
@stryprks
3 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Eat World!
@thomasrondeau2286
3 жыл бұрын
It just takes some time..
@suqies
5 жыл бұрын
TH souonds tighter
@stevenaustin4591
5 жыл бұрын
I like both but the TH30 Kills it!! Miles better than the dark terror (IMO) :)
@marcellpetrik3952
5 жыл бұрын
Could you tell me the title of the first song. Thx.
@TobysGuitarGearDemos
5 жыл бұрын
The Middle - Jimmy Eat World 👍
@marcellpetrik3952
5 жыл бұрын
@@TobysGuitarGearDemos Thank you
@user-oc1ru6ih7i
5 жыл бұрын
I want to know the name of the song!pleas🙏!
@TobysGuitarGearDemos
5 жыл бұрын
Which one mate?
@user-oc1ru6ih7i
5 жыл бұрын
Toby's Guitar Gear 2:36!
@TobysGuitarGearDemos
5 жыл бұрын
Jigsaw Falling into Place - Radiohead 👍
@user-oc1ru6ih7i
5 жыл бұрын
Toby's Guitar Gear thank you so much!
@user-xb6hi2pn9u
4 жыл бұрын
for distorted guitar, I think, dark terror>th30
@MrAdamKaskus
5 жыл бұрын
th30.
@DanielDavis730
2 ай бұрын
Do ya self a hudge favour and try one out in the shop these people on KZitem. Use great recordings to make it sound what it is not
@Johnny--gd2fq
4 жыл бұрын
What pickups are u using in your guitar?
@TobysGuitarGearDemos
4 жыл бұрын
Stock pickups in all guitars. The Gold LP has the 490T. The Harley Bentons all have Wilkinson pickups 👍
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