@18 min in your talking about a stack costing 1.2b and comparing to the previous method, you didnt factor in the fact that at that point the 1.2b would need to be multiplied by 3 (because you get 3 stacks) to get 3.6b value for the dark hunger, so in that situation its actually right around the same as the previous methods
@biohacktv
Жыл бұрын
Oh shoot you're right. I forgot I was comparing at the 3 stack point. So raw PEN blackstars are relatively close. Definitely both are a bad option though.
@trall1444
Жыл бұрын
@@biohacktv for sure, just wanted to point that out, as it also means that your last comparison is actually right around 1.2b cost for hungers rather than the 400m, still largely not worth buying currently though
@angel_bdo
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I was just gonna say the same
@ermutanda3802
Жыл бұрын
even though it's pretty easy to figure this out by yourself I still listened to the full 24 minutes because I love hearing bio explain things lol
@Daylend1337
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately i don't see these reaching those low prices for a long time. The drop rate is pretty low and you need a lot of gear to grind the zone. Opportunity cost at that point says the only people selling these will be telescope and elkarr grinders, and a lot of them would rather keep them for themselves if they drop too low in value. I also think people will over value the item in general as most people can't be F'd to build stacks and don't want to take the risk. Maybe PA will buff the drop rate or add other drops to the zone to make it worth grinding but who knows.
@biohacktv
Жыл бұрын
I pretty much agree with everything you wrote. Which is why I don't expect to ever actually use these personally.
@vulpine3431
Жыл бұрын
“Other drops to the zone to make it worth grinding” isn’t it some of the best silver per hour in the game?
@lmoral222
Жыл бұрын
@@vulpine3431no
@elimanator911
Жыл бұрын
@@vulpine3431the new zones are like 200m/hr lmao
@biohacktv
Жыл бұрын
@@vulpine3431as far as I understand it they are pretty bad money. You mostly just grind there for the telescope.
@mxrt_s
Жыл бұрын
4:55 flashbang warning
@HaPKoMaTo3
Жыл бұрын
This item is very good if you don't want to bother with fail stacking using reblath and BS enhancing. Which takes time actually a lot of time if you are not used to it. So you haven't factor in the fact that you can grind instead of rising your failstack by clicking reblath/BS. So we have to calculate the time it will take for average player to enhance. Will be like 2.5-3 times slower compared to you enhancing. And count it as -1bill per hour of lost value (cuz he isn't grinding). With dark hunger you can even increase your stack at grinding spot.
@rodcamargo6307
Жыл бұрын
Maybe it should get a higher drop rate from PA so market price can become fair, the trash from the spot is not good, the spot is purely rng based spot as I say, stil the best way to reduce its price for me is if gets more frequent in the game, so people could keep some of them for clicking and also sell the extra ones in the market for lower geared players.
@auisthia
Жыл бұрын
pen green gear gives +2 while the dark hunger gives +4 in 219+ fs and pen green gear is cheaper at 700m each at least in my region than this dark hunger thing.. Edit: I'm talking about devouring pen green gear..
@Dr.Thanatos
Жыл бұрын
And ur green gear suddenly goes pen
@auisthia
Жыл бұрын
@@Dr.Thanatos i mean buying in mp then devouring it..
@Fundy25
11 ай бұрын
This was a dope ass video
@kontoldesune
Жыл бұрын
eh sometimes i spend 1k mem frags and cant even reach tri twice. might as well buy the guaranteed fail stack i need rather than gambling to fail tets and pen bs attempts just to reach 300+
@leoloveme520
Жыл бұрын
Hello Do you expect pen debo to be sold more on the market with those origin of dark hunger prices going down?
@biohacktv
Жыл бұрын
No not at all. There is no reason to sell PEN when selling TET is so much better.
@ykcasual
Жыл бұрын
what about the only value dark hunger brings? Keeping the stack worth nothing and can be ignored? For you it may be negligible, but normal players don't enchant for a living. If I lose 250 stack on pen bhegs I'd be big mad! And since I already have triple pen bs, even pen bs would make me mad. I cant be the only one XD
@davibernhard
Жыл бұрын
Nice info, thanks
@MsGhoulz
Жыл бұрын
I'm too lazy an allergic to pain & RNG to build a PEN debo FS.
@user-uz7ft9cf2e
Жыл бұрын
For the mortals this item is priceless, specially for the unlucky sobs like most of us
@lmoral222
Жыл бұрын
Thanks bro
@tist203
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I dont really see anyone selling the origin pieces for much lower than they are now because of how low the drop rate is and its the only source of money at the spot. I could be wrong, but I definitely dont plan on selling mine if they drop much lower.
@BowTrickz
Жыл бұрын
The cost of failstacking with raw pen bs should have the cost of a cronned pen bs subtracted from it. Since people will already be cron clicking their blackstars at ~250fs the cost for the +6 failstacks is the premium paid to raw click it vs the 5bil it wouldve cost cronned and not the full amount
@biohacktv
Жыл бұрын
Essentially that is the same thing as the value of the PEN blackstar. If you wanted to do that you would just change the value of the PEN blackstar to reflect the cost of making it with crons on whatever stack you were using.
@mountain1331
6 ай бұрын
HI, could you make a video on how to build failstacks with blackstar? I want a high stack to use on debo enhancement.
@biohacktv
6 ай бұрын
Just click PEN reblath from ~90 - 275, raw clicking PEN blackstar is bad. You can throw some TET attempts from like 150-200 but for the average player that isn't really worth it.
@mountain1331
6 ай бұрын
OK thank you~@@biohacktv
@CommandoMaster
Жыл бұрын
DO u think PEN BS weapons are gonna stay close to 110bil?
@gabmax1013
Жыл бұрын
I mean im pretty sure it’s cheaper to just use TET reblath to make high stacks. Those to me would be worth it if you are just trying to push a stupid high stack.
@spotbotgamingchannel
Жыл бұрын
Asking for a friend who is buying tet debos and tapping them for pen?
@Podex3.14
Жыл бұрын
100+ billion to go from 100-300? I’ll take it over doing 30k quests or stacking on reblath and blackstars with risk involved
@DrSwazz
Жыл бұрын
I can’t afford it so it’s not worth
@kilak84
9 ай бұрын
Where can I buy crons for 2m? I only saw vendors selling them for 3m each.
@biohacktv
9 ай бұрын
They changed the price to 3M a while back.
@HolyXerxes
Жыл бұрын
For me its value really start at 219~249 at 4stack a pop or 250~279 at 3 stack a pop, since only way to build that is using raw TET BS, and no freaking way imma use TET reblath on that.
@biohacktv
Жыл бұрын
Feel free to do whatever you want, but I generally consider TET reblath to be vastly superior to raw PEN blackstar attempts. I'm pretty much gonna do TET->PEN reblath all the way up to about 300 unless boss gear happens to be worthwhile.
@lmoral222
Жыл бұрын
@@biohacktvI could be wrong, but I feel that if someone doesn't enhance much, yet is still kinda trying to build a high stack, that using reblath is scary. Because if it goes pen, you lose, say, a 230 stack, whereas, if you use a boss armor, you at least walk away with a few bil. Again, probably totally wrong, but I understand the dude's concern, assuming they don't enhance that much.
@HolyXerxes
Жыл бұрын
@@biohacktv I enhance a lot, and for someone that already make 11x pen reblath and some of those are high stack there no bloody way imma risk that again.
@biohacktv
Жыл бұрын
@@HolyXerxesAs someone who's made hundreds of PEN reblath eventually you just get numb to it. Better to just be efficient and not get too worked up about it :P
@HolyXerxes
Жыл бұрын
@@biohacktv Well not everyone can just online almost everyday and long hours and spent all that time just enhancing, time still an luxury that not everyone can min max what is worth to use when building FS, the fact PA releasing a secondary option is good sense that some people can find use for. Again, if waste 250 fs on pen reblath is just okay for you then I clearly play a wrong game then.
@WIZA327
11 ай бұрын
WTF is that warehouse, 1.6 TRILLION???? BRUH. HOW DO YOU HAVE THAT MUCH TIME TO PLAY BDO
@chrisg6588
11 ай бұрын
I'm guessing you haven't watched more than just this video?
@Saiku
Жыл бұрын
If only the new spots were actually good money so players would keep grinding and supply the market with them. With how dogshit they are, people are just goinna get their telescope and dip ASAP.
@MunsterNox
Жыл бұрын
Always use the purple Blackstars, raw enhance tri to tet (you can push 250 stacks tri-tet and 130-180 stacks pri-duo). He didn't put this in the video not to mess the Godr prices.
@BadiehWoTBlitzMore
Жыл бұрын
Raw tapping tet godr?
@Darkinse
Жыл бұрын
I go reblath to 249 then add valks +13 and go blackstar for 300fs
@MetinCrafter
Жыл бұрын
This sounds so stupid. How‘d you get the TRI‘s, buy em? Like what. PRI-DUO for 130-180, maybe. Roughly same as TET BS. Give or take. No downgrades either, but you make no money at all, and you‘d never hit TRI. So whats the Point? Edit: nvm, pri-duo is like 2?3? Stacks a click. So its way more than TET BS lol.
@visoroverwatch3247
Жыл бұрын
No way thats BioHack, his face is not round enough lol.
@ТодорСтаматов-ъ4я
Жыл бұрын
Bio can you give me advice what to spot to grind with 269/345 Warrior Succession ?
@biohacktv
Жыл бұрын
Orcs? I don't know. I'm not really a grinder.
@ТодорСтаматов-ъ4я
Жыл бұрын
@@biohacktveh thanks anyway. One more question about Distortion, as my comment seems to disappear. Should i use the high stacks that you recommend in Deboreka video with 58/90/110 stacks, etc?
@biohacktv
Жыл бұрын
@@ТодорСтаматов-ъ4я you can. It's not as extreme for distos though so a bit lower is probably better.
@ТодорСтаматов-ъ4я
Жыл бұрын
@@biohacktv ty. I'm currently grinding at Star's End and im wondering at what level should i try to enhance and sell? I try to grind for Distro and sell for profit obviously.
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