Peter Singer examined life This is the center of one of the world’s richest countries and one of the most expensive place (NY) there and that raises an ethical issue I mean there are people who have the money to buy at these stores and who don’t seem to see any kind of moral problem doing that but what I want to ask is well shouldn’t they see some sort of moral problem about that isn’t there a question about what we should be spending our money on so we’re outside Bergdorf Goodman where they’ve got a display of Dolce and Gabbana shoes and it’s kind of amusing to me because about 30 years ago I wrote an article called famine affluence and morality in which I imagined that you’re walking past a shallow pond and as walk past that you notice that there’s a small child who’s fallen into the pond and seems to be in danger of drowning and you look around to see where the parents are and there’s nobody in sight you realize that unless you wade into pond and pull a child ass the child is like to drown there’s no danger to you because you know the pond is just a shallow one but you are wearing a nice pair of shoes and they’re probably going to get ruined if you wade into that shallow pond so of course when I ask people this you know they always say well of course forget about the shoes you’ve just got to save the child that’s clear and the I stop and say okay well, I you know I agree with you about that but for the price of a pair of shoes if you were to give that to Oxfam or UNICEF for one of those organizations they could probably save the life of a child may be more than one child in a poor country where our children are dying because they can’t get basic medical care to treat very basic diseases like diarrhea or whatever else it might be and that’s really one of the reasons why I think it’s interesting to be here on fifth Avenue talking about ethics because ethic is about the basic of choices that we ought to make in our lives and one of those choices id how do we spend our money?[…..]. I started thinking about these issues back in the 1970s when for one thing there was there was the crisis in Bangladesh where there were millions of people who were in danger of starving because of the repression of the Bangladeshis by the Pakistani army at the time and that made me help think about our obligations to people who were in danger of starvation also around the same time I happen to meet someone who was a vegetarian who got me asking myself about am I justified in continuing to eat me what is it that give us the right or the justifies us in treating animals the way they get treated before they end up an hour lunch or dinner or whatever it might be and I read little bit about factory farming intensive farms and the way they can find animals which was something that was really just getting going at that stage and I thought that you can’t really justify this that we’ve just taken for granted the idea that somehow humans have the right to use animals whichever way they want to and that and that isn’t defensible the boundary of species is not something that really is so morally significant that it entitles us to take another sentient being who can suffer or feel pain do as we wish without Tinian being just because we happen to like the taste of its flesh so these two issues really got me thinking about applied ethics which at this time at the beginning of the 1970s wasn’t really a field it wasn’t really something that philosophers thought was properly philosophy but I think it was a good time to start thinking about these issues because of the student movement the radical movement of the 60s and early 70s which had created a bit more interest in these issues and raised the question. Can we make our academic studies more relevant to the important questions of the day when you do applied ethics you often find that thinking things through leads you to challenge common-sense morality because this is consistent with a very ancient philosophical tradition it’s exactly what happened with Socrates when he started asking people about is justice and they thought they knew what justice is and then they started thinking about it and they realized they didn’t understand it and of course Socrates ended up having being forced to drink hemlock because he was accused of the corrupting the morals of the youth now fortunately that doesn’t happen to philosophers today but could well be said that you know from a conservative point of view applied ethics does corrupt morals or not corrupt is the wrong word but it certainly challenges morals and might lead us to think differently about somethings that we have held very dear for a long time a lot of people think that you can only have ethical standards if in some way your religious you believe that there’s a God who handed down some commandments or inspired some scriptures which tell you what to do I don’t believe in any of that I think ethics has to come from ourselves but that doesn’t mean that it’s totally subjective that doesn’t mean that you can think whatever you like about what’s right or wrong when you start to look at issues ethically you have to do more than just think about your own interests you have to ask yourself how do I take into account the interests of others what would I choose if I were to be in their position rather than my position. One of the most obvious things that emerges when you put yourself in the position of others is the priority of reducing or preventing suffering because ethics is not just about what I actually do and the impact of that but it’s also about what I am it to do what I decide not to do and that’s why questions about you know given that we all have a limited amount of money questions about what you spend your money on are also questions about what you don’t spend your money on or what you don’t use your money to achieve and a lot of people I think forget that they just say oh well you know I’m harming anyone if I go and spend a thousand dollars on a new suit but in fact given the opportunities that we have to help and given the way the world is I think that quite often you actually are failing to benefit someone which you could be doing I think we have moral obligations to help just as we have moral obligations not to harm.[Music] Over the thousands of years of history and development of philosophy a lot of philosophers have asked does life have a meaning what is it and that’s a question which I think we can give an answer and I think the answer is we make a lie is most meaningful when we connect ourselves with some really important forces or issues and we contribute to that so that we feel that because we live something has gone a little better than it would have otherwise we’ve contributed in however smaller way to making the world a better place I think it’s hard to find anything more meaningful than doing that and reducing the around of unnecessary pain and suffering that there’s been on this world making the world a little bit better for all of the being who are sharing it with us. [ For Scholar and whoever need it, it was taking forever to retype it. I hope it's useful for you all.]
@margotp9566
5 жыл бұрын
thank you for taking your time this is really helpful for my exam! :D
@coffeebeans1890
4 жыл бұрын
thank you so much, incredibly helpful!
@zeynepsudekoc6885
3 жыл бұрын
OMG TY
@BT-yx5mr
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude this helped me a lot
@sunnyshukla5141
3 жыл бұрын
much appreciated
@justinloranger3921
10 жыл бұрын
Take your shoes off before you wade in. That's just one thing I thought when I watched the first few minutes.
@Kevin-sy3jt
3 жыл бұрын
Normally he conditions the example with the premise that the time it takes to take the shoes off would kill the child. His point stands regardless: we spend our money on frivolous things when that money could save lives.
@thebuffalopanther5097
2 жыл бұрын
7 years later, and I thought the same thing
@sabinghita6271
10 жыл бұрын
the reason this genius of a philosopher does not need religion is because he is addressing Consciousness (and consequently Ethics) directly. Very good! Nevertheless, if you are a true believer, you should also address Ethics directly, and from another point of view, which is just one of the many... I believe GOOD things must get done one way or the other.
@jj-xv5wd
10 жыл бұрын
The conscious as mankind calls it comes from God, mankind learn that hard lesson when God removes his presence of light in tribulation suddenly people lose touch with conscious becoming more hardened in heart and evil less compassionate. It is prophecy of that the spirit which tells the mind of man what is right from wrong shall silence it voice for a time and few will have the oil to last the time of darkness. Mankind learn that you can not have good without God only evil with the Devil.
@dragoneye6229
9 жыл бұрын
Adonai Christ Of course it does, since God is man's ego after all.
@pamelabibby7170
6 жыл бұрын
LETS DO TO SINGER WHAT HE WANTS TO DO TO DISABLED PEOPLE
@fosrrjvjvidf9495
11 жыл бұрын
I heard him speak inna interview, that's even better than a book.
@rosemaryanderson9059
11 жыл бұрын
Interesting concepts.
@futurehistory2110
12 жыл бұрын
I agree with his statement at the end I do believe in a social meaning to life, not a literal meaning to life but even if society isn't a real force like gravity, it seems so real that its worth the meaning, its an illusion but no clear difference is noticeable so within this illusion of society he is correct.
@pao307
9 жыл бұрын
aut people where you at! haha
@alisakg
9 жыл бұрын
pao307 hahahah me too!
@bessiehe5197
9 жыл бұрын
here!!!!
@pao307
9 жыл бұрын
Kamya Ghose good luck on the learning logs!
@pao307
9 жыл бұрын
Bessie He good luck on those learning logs ay!
@pamelabibby7170
6 жыл бұрын
SINGER IS AN EVIL SICKO THINGS ITS OK TO ABUSE WOMEN AND KILL KIDS HE IS NOT ALL THERE
@futurehistory2110
12 жыл бұрын
A dose of this guys videos a day is what can get people through the day as an ethical day :)
@dirtierdog
11 жыл бұрын
He didn't mention it here, but he says in his original argument that the child would have died if you took the time to take off your shoes.
@livingdeadgrl18
12 жыл бұрын
He inspires me!
@woosh2055
2 жыл бұрын
Same :)
@BigMikeMcBastard
11 жыл бұрын
Good rebuttal of what I said. Thanks for the high-quality comment.
@CarolineSmith7
10 жыл бұрын
WHAT MOVIE IS THIS FROM?! I've been trying to find it for ages!
@cheers6043
2 жыл бұрын
It’s been seven years and I’m sure you figured out by now, but it’s called Examined Life and it’s available on KZitem
@althea1204
8 жыл бұрын
Can someone summarise this video please? thank you !
@isaiahsenyak8339
7 жыл бұрын
eat more tomatoes because a fart is a fruit too
@ZombieLincoln666
11 жыл бұрын
His grounding is empathy
@brianjuarez3884
3 жыл бұрын
Shout out to cybotron
@DANCEGARAGEPUNK
8 ай бұрын
We are all increasingly conditioned into selfishness & greed in order to boost the economy : ( This video is a blueprint for creating equality, unity & peace on earth ! We could see this in practise if the christian church was less corrupt, & actually kept to christ`s teaching that the wealthy cannot get into heaven, but should help the poor ! : )
@EXT109
11 жыл бұрын
Damn you peter singer, you made my life a lot harder.
@SsBakachan
9 жыл бұрын
Gawd I only just finished my business proposal now i have to deal with leaning log again :( not cool
@cherieneave3965
9 жыл бұрын
Not-Your Business at least you have finished your business proposal haha
@malisa9496
9 жыл бұрын
Not-Your Business yayye :)) same here =))
@futurehistory2110
12 жыл бұрын
I'm in a debate with someone on another you tube video. He is asking for proof that charities or even a charity really does give its money to the cause it suggests and doesn't keep the money for itself. Does anyone know how I can prove it to him and where I can find the information? thanks.
@popcornchicken7452
9 жыл бұрын
Hi AUT students.. love those learning logs huh? >.>
@BkahG92
9 жыл бұрын
Lol I'm just doing mine now HA!
@cb3567
9 жыл бұрын
4 hours till deadline, uhoh.
@alisakg
9 жыл бұрын
***** wow I am doing this now :( 8 months down the track haha
@semprequeleroscomentariose8916
4 жыл бұрын
what is the name of this documentary?
@jonathanauyer6634
4 жыл бұрын
The Examined Life
@fosrrjvjvidf9495
11 жыл бұрын
Good point, however, how many other species do we see going for "interspecies relationships...?"
@caleighmckeen8318
9 жыл бұрын
For all of you bringing up God..... what makes you think God feels you need the best suits and shoes while children go hungry? Its a team effort. If you think you earned them.... try searching for your food each day, walking 2 miles to get water, fighting illness without medicine, etc. Unfortunately, the universe does not always give to those who deserve it..... perhaps our purpose is to even that out.
@RestInPieces777
11 жыл бұрын
"There is only power." - Lord Voldemort
@lordradish
13 жыл бұрын
Wow, lots of insightful, intelligent commentary here.
@johntindell9591
4 жыл бұрын
Very logical.
@patirose6359
6 жыл бұрын
It is an interesting video about Peter Singer discusses the ethics of poverty and affluence, animal rights, and the radical nature of applied ethics.
@StanDiggs
9 жыл бұрын
hahaha love that most people are here for their Learning Logs. 2 more hours til its due, whoops.
@Guaguanco11
12 жыл бұрын
@johnnytastetest His argument is very simple: (1) People suffering from extreme poverty is morally bad. (2) When we can prevent something morally bad from happening without sacrificing anything of moral significance we ought to do so. (3) You can prevent suffering from extreme poverty without sacrificing anything of moral significance. Therefore: You ought to do so. The argument valid, so the only way to avoid the conclusion is to reject one of premises 1-3. So which do you reject?
@owzjils312
9 жыл бұрын
Just starting my LL got 3 and abit hours left
@Tamizushi
11 жыл бұрын
(...part 2) recognize for you and any other given human being, the same dignity that I recognize for myself. That's why I even care about what happens to others, by empathy and because I recognize their equivalence with me. Non-human animals also share these things with me to a good degree, and so I also recognize their dignity. But plants, they don't suffer, they don't have a mind they don't even have a nervous system, it's impossible for them to have a dignity of the kind I claim for myself.
@lovingboarding
10 жыл бұрын
"Examined Life" by Astra Taylor.
@Tamizushi
11 жыл бұрын
It would be impossible for me to not prefer a state of being for myself over another, like pleasure, life and joy over suffering, death, and despair, and hence by my very nature I have no choice to accept my own dignity. I realize that that these characteristics are the products of my mind, itself a product of my nervous system and that for all points that matter in the context your own mind an nervous systems are equivalent to mine. Hence, by empathy and to stay consistant, I (...continue)
@Tamizushi
11 жыл бұрын
(part 2) each other, then we can say "We were wrong" and try other things. If on another hand we jump the utilitarian step and we simply say that following your nature is good, then you have no way inside your theory to learn from your mistakes. Ultimately, what we really need isn't a good epistemology.
@nawaryoussef
11 жыл бұрын
I agree with what he wrote :) but I am saying isn't easy for most of the people. Maybe if we can make people save money to help others ""Partly"" will be easier (for them) than thinking they need to do that all the time. Just saying what idea seems more acceptable for people. Thx
@courtneykemp2721
9 жыл бұрын
what would be the claim for all of this? I'm doing an English paper on this and I'm having a hard time figuring out the claim or the 'main idea',
@TheSpykeeper
3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps we should be imagining a more realistic example where not just one, but multiple children fall into the pond. You wade in to save one, then a couple more as a few more fall in. What now?
@noooreally
9 жыл бұрын
what are learning logs, do you guys get to learn this topic for your education. Lucky :)
@althea1204
8 жыл бұрын
noooreally learning logs are useless seriously..
@noooreally
8 жыл бұрын
I am in your afterglow right now
@29leej
8 жыл бұрын
yea it is good to help others..but I don't wanna be "obligated" to help others.
@mitjellk2186
6 жыл бұрын
He is arguing that you already are. But you choose to ignore that.
@LaBam85
11 жыл бұрын
disappointing comments below to a man with a true message
@fede2
12 жыл бұрын
@cyborg007ification "The truly great person is capable of overcoming himself without stepping on others. Stepping on others is a weakness. It shows you are incapable of greatness yourself" i completely agree, but that's not what i'm talking about. benevolence, which brews spontaneously within one, is one thing. what singer proposes is that our *main* concern taking care of others. following that ethic consistantly, it does become incompatible with personal flourishing. i explained this.
@EddieStyle
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting
@lookitsjunho
11 жыл бұрын
There are some problems with the application of the drowning child analogy to donating money to an organization that Singer doesn't address.
@robertwilsoniii2048
8 жыл бұрын
WTF are "learning logs?"
@volleyball9110
11 жыл бұрын
yes
@Tamizushi
11 жыл бұрын
That's not a problem with utilitarianism, that's a problem with any idea you may have. Any idea, and hence any ethical theory may end up with a desaster. What Utilitarianism (and consequencialism in general) does is allows us to learn for our mistakes. So we could say for example that what's good is what has a good impact on people life and that we think following their nature(for example) will have the best effect, but then if it turns out we were wrong and everyone start killing (continue)
@fosrrjvjvidf9495
11 жыл бұрын
That is Great news.
@fosrrjvjvidf9495
11 жыл бұрын
There is a difference between disgust and hate. Different species have different bacteria in their bodies. All it takes is one strain which is incompatible to transfer a disease. One infected person eventually can spread to become an epidemic, Utilitarianism provides the mental framework for these kinds of tragic things to happen.
@S2Cents
12 жыл бұрын
Peter Singer, I admire. But the man lost me when he tells: "I suggest that a period of 28 days after birth might be allowed before an infant is accepted as having the same right to life as others.." "Rats are indisputably more aware of their surroundings, and more able to respond in purposeful and complex ways to things they like or dislike, than a fetus at 10- or even 32-weeks gestation. The calf, the pig, and the much-derided chicken come out well ahead of the fetus at any stage of pregnancy"
@THu-qv5zb
8 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me is there any connection to resource 1a plzzzzz?lol
@MrCURRYxpress
8 жыл бұрын
T. Hu Got anything??? I need help
@THu-qv5zb
8 жыл бұрын
+Tay Glossop Hell noooo!! 10 mins to deadline im still struggling with the last question
@LuisGarcia-bw2kp
3 жыл бұрын
@@THu-qv5zb well did you made it before the deadline?
@THu-qv5zb
3 жыл бұрын
Luis Garcia dude,I almost finish my master degree now😂time flies
@fosrrjvjvidf9495
11 жыл бұрын
the decision to drop the a bomb fit the utilitarian model.
@SteepDescent
11 жыл бұрын
I recommend Sam Harris' The End of Faith for your perusal.
@celestialteapot3310
7 жыл бұрын
Having little money l find l have remarkably few moral or ethical dillemas to grapple with.
@Tamizushi
11 жыл бұрын
Suppose I say "A: Healthy habits make you healthy and B: eating poisoned food is a healthy habit, therefore C: eating poisoned food makes you healthy" and you then eat poisoned food and get sick, do you then conclude that healthy habits make you sick or that eating poisoned food makes you sick? Similarly if Japan says "Making people happy is good and war will make people happy therefore war is good" and they then wage war and it ends up sucking for everyone, which of the two premises is false?
@woosh2055
2 жыл бұрын
Genius.
@zeebradoom4774
4 жыл бұрын
love this guy
@fosrrjvjvidf9495
11 жыл бұрын
I did not disagree with your statement, only your application of it.
@Ichglaube1
12 жыл бұрын
I am curious how you think that helping others as one's main concern is incompatible with personal flourishing. You have stated twice that it does, but not why. Singer does not suggest that we become each others slaves, rather that we eliminate excessive wealth when there is egregious poverty. If anything, facing inequality should enable us to cultivate more meaningful character and increase creativity. Suffering will always exist, but reducing it is not wrong or inhibiting of personal growth.
@Tamizushi
11 жыл бұрын
End when has signer said that you can exchange a harm for anything else? Because if he said that, he would be violating the thesis of utilitarianism.
@Tamizushi
11 жыл бұрын
Preferences and empathy are two pillars on which the foundations of utilitarianism lay and the machine can do neither. Reason is what utilitarianism is all about and that's something the machine can't do. But even not taking any of that into account, even if utilitarians were no different than machine, I wouldn't mind at all. I'd more than welcome a sensible machine, highly sophisticated which is dedicated to the maximization of our well being. I mean how is that even a criticism.
@fosrrjvjvidf9495
11 жыл бұрын
I would need an assistant to perform the dirty work, care to volunteer? You can choose the species and however many of them you feel is necessary to prove my point to you.
@fosrrjvjvidf9495
11 жыл бұрын
Once these concepts are digested for a generation, what will follow? What makes you think that utilitarianism will not be highjacked the same way religion was for the benefit of a few?
@Tamizushi
11 жыл бұрын
And any valid counter-arguments would be to show that they weren't necessary to save these lives(for example, Japan was already ready to abdicate. USA could also have shown the Atomic bomb used on a desert targets as a demonstration first.) and that they purposefully made it worst than needed (Months before the event, USA flew planes above Hiroshima repetitively without bombing to habituated inhabitant so they don't seek cover.). In other words, it wasn't utilitarianism, it was misinformation.
@Tamizushi
11 жыл бұрын
I don't know of any cases where a sexual transmission has resulted from a sexual relation between species , although I could see how it would happen since any contact between species can potentially do that. I can think of several examples related to meat though. Furthermore, if you get a disease from having sex with an animal, it's safe to say that this disease would probably be a STD, meaning that sex between humans would also be necessary to cause the epidemic. Therefore, the answer is A.
@joesportstardnaught8691
11 жыл бұрын
No please continue.....
@fosrrjvjvidf9495
11 жыл бұрын
He criticizes a person who would spend $1,000 on a suit and then spends probably 5 times that to travel for a week and further his interests. Who is he to decide what is "thoughtless excess" .... Maybe a businessman needs that level of suit to be taken seriously in the circles he runs in. Maybe the aspiring model needs that $300 purse. Again, now it is HE who deems what is correct, what is ethical. It is HE who overrules evolution, it is HE who decides when human life begins or should end.
@shanesimpson6843
7 жыл бұрын
From a rule utilitarian point of view rather then an act utilitarian like peter singer, I see that promoting a rule that no one can ever act in thier own self intrest and always has an obilgation to help other people at every opportunity would not raise the greatest good for the greatest number because the extreme majority of people would live in slavery to the less fortunate and so such a principle of morality does not do what it is intended.
@mitjellk2186
6 жыл бұрын
How so? Once sufficient people choose to invest money in eliminating the structural issues from which the life threatening situations arise (such as famine and decease), those issues will eventually be solved. Sooner rather than later if more people help. That means that we'd eventually be rid of the situations which would need help or have atleast decreased their occurence to a point that we no longer need to pitch in and they become self sufficient. Besides, you are not obligated to do so, it's out of your own free will. So slavery? no.
@fosrrjvjvidf9495
11 жыл бұрын
It's not what is closest that matters, it's what can be justified utilizing the utilitarian paradigm. Here's a quiz for you: What combination of sexual partners would be most likely to produce an epidemic that causes widespread suffering? a) two humans b) a human and an animal
@fosrrjvjvidf9495
11 жыл бұрын
His point was that the justifications for war fit neatly the utilitarian model. And also the bestiality and infanticide aspects. Yes I think he did agree with you about what all of their motives were. It certainly was not a false dichotomy though. Either was, It was a fascinating exchange, you did really well, but he got the better of you. All my best
@simon9999912
11 жыл бұрын
Since when did being erudite become a negative thing?
@Tamizushi
11 жыл бұрын
First, we could potencially program machines to act exactly like humans in every situations. Second, I don't say I preferred machines over humans. You are the one who brought this red herring up. I simply don't care how machine-like you think we are or how human-like you think machines are.
@Tamizushi
11 жыл бұрын
Glad you don't disagree with utilitarianism anymore.
@JacobFehr1
12 жыл бұрын
I believe we have an obligation to make lots of money, therefore we can contribute alot to charity. Progress through economic means. What do you think, don't be afraid to let me know your opinion if you disagree!
@Rangertype09
4 жыл бұрын
ahh the comment section, YO THROW YO HANDS UP AUT WAT WAT
@fosrrjvjvidf9495
11 жыл бұрын
Peter Singer: Architect of the Culture of Death DONALD DEMARCO: "Rethinking Life and Death can fairly be called the Mein Kampf of the euthanasia movement" TRUE.
@S2Cents
12 жыл бұрын
@CasparLeones No shit. I'm deleting that
@ceciliachen3615
9 жыл бұрын
I hate 2 do Learning Log every week!!!!!!
@muserussell2377
7 жыл бұрын
Cecilia Chen what is learning log? everyone here Is saying this
@fosrrjvjvidf9495
11 жыл бұрын
Funny that he jet sets all over the world to spread that message...
@fede2
12 жыл бұрын
this is, pardon the crude bluntness, simply a secular approach to herd morality. an obligation to the universal prevention of suffering is, firstly, unrealistic. suffering is part of the human condition, no matter how well off you are. secondly, i don't see this as necesarily good. where does this leave personal greatness, creativity and so on? when everybody is preoccupied with raising eachother's quality of life, what happens to one's own? everyone becomes eachother's slave.
@thatsterroristsbro7855
4 жыл бұрын
This comment section is like a bag of ferrets.
@Jointknight
11 жыл бұрын
Completely depends on what you define slavery as. But for sake of argument let's take "the middle passage" as the subject of slavery. No this slavery as defined by it's characteristics of simply put placing "law before compassion" is in fact immoral.
@cyborg007ification
12 жыл бұрын
@fede2 How is personal greatness incompatible with reducing the amount of suffering you cause others? You cannot look at ethics with a zero-sum mentality. The truly great person is capable of overcoming himself without stepping on others. Stepping on others is a weakness. It shows you are incapable of greatness yourself.
@kinz999
11 жыл бұрын
I cannot see his comment but it could not have been very positive :p ha. So, steakhouses should be illegal, unless that becomes slang for some kind of brothel? I have nothing against Mr Singer's beliefs, and actually enjoy listening to these type of programmes, but I dislike it when people become somewhat of a Preacher, especially when even the most stingent are usually pretty hypocritical.
@Tamizushi
11 жыл бұрын
I agree with his views on abortion. Early fetuses can not be considered sensible beings and hence they don't have a dignity. Also concerning sick newborns, remember Singer is an act utilitarian not a rule utilitarian. What he is saying is that in some situations when the baby is sick and both the parents and the doctor agree it would be better to end his/her life, it could be justified to do so. I'm personally a lot more on the rule side of utilitarianism which is why I tend to disagree.
@Tamizushi
11 жыл бұрын
With all due respect, I'm not sure how you could read a comment where I say that the Japanese empire has killed about 25 millions people during WW2 and somehow interpret it as an insinuation that the Americans were more hateful than the Japanese. As I said. It was horrible times indeed. On another hand I do not believe that atrocities committed by a government would justifies unnecessarily reciprocation on it citizens and I'm not convinced that everything America did was necessary.
@BigMikeMcBastard
11 жыл бұрын
People in the Western world who live somewhere in the middle-class-or-better income brackets. So, people who have income in excess such that they could consider buying an expensive pair of shoes.
@Tamizushi
11 жыл бұрын
No, he was arguing that an utilitarian argument had been used by Americans during WW2 to justify the use of the nuclear bomb, to which I demonstrated that the problem was a logical mistake, not utilitarism. Although it's true that a conventional invasion would have been even worst for everyone than bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but those weren't the only options available, which they demonstrably knew. Basically it's a false dichotomy used to hide their real motives.
@BigMikeMcBastard
11 жыл бұрын
He also donates a substantial portion of the money he and his wife earn to charity. So no, it isn't funny that a guy born in Australia, educated in the UK and employed in the US might do a bit of travelling.
@BigMikeMcBastard
11 жыл бұрын
You're being pretty ridiculous and I think you know it. Singer donates 25% of his income to Oxfam and UNICEF. If you'd like to make a moral argument that Singer needs to live in squalor while donating 99% of his income to charity, or 100%, I'm sure we'd all be interested in hearing about it. But he has a job, he is expected to meet the obligations of his job, and to be frank, his travelling and talking about ethics is a valuable service in itself. The world is better with Singer flying around.
@Shadowbeast368
11 жыл бұрын
If you really couldn't understand what Singer was saying in the video you linked you really need to reassess your ability to reason. It was filled with caveats to suggest that he wasn't totally supporting bestiality, but merely question peoples reservations towards it. And comparing his vegetarianism (which stems from anti cruelty/suffering) to his quasi support of consensual (as much as an animal can express) bestiality either stems from an agenda or a severe misunderstanding of his position.
@kinz999
11 жыл бұрын
Ha, yeah I didn't phrase that very well, I mean I have nothing against his right to have his beliefs and say them. His actual beliefs I disagree with.
@fosrrjvjvidf9495
11 жыл бұрын
I walk on two legs.
@timmccowan6538
3 жыл бұрын
mmmm yes, very wise.
@kinz999
11 жыл бұрын
ah right, thanks. Yeh I was only joking, a no brainer really would have to save the kid.
@nawaryoussef
11 жыл бұрын
I don't think what he is talking about is a -good or bad- choices. It's good to not buy an expensive shoes or cloth, but not everybody can do it and that not a bad thing ethically. I can do that for one, tow, three, four times or more, but then what? I am not going to buy the cheapest stuff whole my life, but still is a good to try to do that once per while.
@RN-lo6ti
4 жыл бұрын
Why do experts always look a little nutty
@fosrrjvjvidf9495
11 жыл бұрын
I saw an article about a book written about this monster, came here and read what people are saying about him. How could it be that the human brain malfunctions in so many cases? You are as closed minded as you think he is.
@Iamjamessmith1
11 ай бұрын
If somebody has a real problem with ruining their shoes they can quickly take them off.
@fosrrjvjvidf9495
11 жыл бұрын
I find his view offensive, you find mine offensive. Nice to know I made you feel the way this degenerate did me.
@fosrrjvjvidf9495
11 жыл бұрын
He dismisses the notion of God and religion as a source of values while draws his own lines in the sand which divide right and wrong. So, in essence, he is replacing God and religion with himself and his views..... Don't believe in fairy tales, believe in me..
@robertwilsoniii2048
8 жыл бұрын
Ya know, this whole deal is a little hypocritical when Princeton University has $19,000,000,000 for only 7,910 students... right? In fact, according to this man, it would seem that the notion of private education itself is unethical because of the low number of students, high tuition and the practice of accepting large donations from alumni of said institutions -- at yet, Peter Singer is a professor at Princeton... am I missing something here?
@M3Lucky
8 жыл бұрын
+Robert Wilson III Peter Singer has raised criticisms against Princeton in regards to their use of money. Nonetheless, whether his behaviour aligns 100% with his ethical views or not does not make the views invalid.
@robertwilsoniii2048
8 жыл бұрын
M3Lucky Well, it's just a tincy bit hypocritical.
@M3Lucky
8 жыл бұрын
Robert Wilson III Yep.
@robertwilsoniii2048
8 жыл бұрын
M3Lucky And for the record, I'm at the University of California, Irvine, after having gone to private elementary and high school, and comparing my experience to those I know at private colleges that are similarly, if not higher, ranked I can honestly say that I am very much less than impressed with public education. With that said, I'd really like to support these types of messages, but I just can't. Public systems just have way to many problems; I'd venture to say that public systems have more issues than Capitalism has "evil" -- and I'm being 100% honest here.
8 жыл бұрын
+Robert Wilson III As far as I know, prof. Singer donates at least 33% of his income to effective charities (not to mention spending used to essentially convince people to live better, more ethical lives).
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