Picked up the full sized model a couple of months ago and love it. First time at the range I had nothing but magazine issues causing double feed after double feed. OEM glock mags fixed that issue and it’s ran like a top ever since!
@360TacticalSolutions
3 жыл бұрын
This one has done really well with the mags it came with as well as OEM Glock mags. So far so good
@jordanfranklin189
Жыл бұрын
Best hand gun I've owned personally
@daverocco816
2 жыл бұрын
Great video I like the way you clearly explain the P80 and why you chose the different features.
@360TacticalSolutions
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@CaveWyatt
3 жыл бұрын
When I saw Bobby Simone carrying a Glock 19 in 1995 on NYPD Blue I thought, “this is the future of handguns!” Made the mistake of buying one. In 2008 I traded this safe queen I could never get used to in for a Sig P229. In 2020 I tried out the Agency take on the G19 (with P80 grip) and knew this was what I had originally wanted but WAY too expensive. Watched this review (several times) and reviews on other 3G Glock clones and decided to try the P80 out. Got a brown one last week and finally got to the range yesterday. Wow! What a shooter! I realize how subjective a review can be but, to me, the PFC9 is exactly what I hoped I was buying in 1995. Also, to me, it is perfect out of the box and needs no immediate modification. At some point in the future I might buy a set of Tru Glo fiber optic sights but I can certainly live with the factory sights, in a way I never could live with the factory Glock sights. Something you were “iffy” on is the trigger. I have no specific memory of the trigger on my first (and only) Glock trigger but, again to me, the P80 trigger seems much more solid and crisp than the Agency trigger, which felt like the trigger was flexing to me. You’re used to something else but I’d have to think the P80 trigger press will work beautifully for 90% of users. My only complaint would be the P80 included mags. The walls seem thin and brittle but I picked up some Magpul mags which seem much superior. To me. (Disclaimer much?) Great, comprehensive review which got me to look at a pistol that was nowhere on my radar! And buy it. And immediately fall in love with it.
@360TacticalSolutions
3 жыл бұрын
Glad the video helped you out. Nothing worse than just buying guns and later finding out you don’t like them. All in all I’m happy with this one. If you are looking for mags check palmetto state armory. They have OEM Glock mags pretty cheap most of the time
@thereisnoneRighteous-but-GOD
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your honest unbiased review. Appreciate you sharing your overall experience along with your opinions. Great video. Keep them coming. 🙏🏽🇺🇸
@360TacticalSolutions
Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I really appreciate the comment. I try and do things a little differently than other people. Its not easy building a firearms channel these days when there are thousands of people already doing it lol
@thereisnoneRighteous-but-GOD
Жыл бұрын
@@360TacticalSolutions you're welcome and I understand and agree.
@KevinB11550
3 жыл бұрын
Great video Love that magwell Picked up the P80 compact few weeks back. The grip is nice but the front a little too aggressive so I put gun wrap on the front section alone. Now much better
@360TacticalSolutions
3 жыл бұрын
Its definitely a bit aggressive for some people. Im actually going to be doing some modification with this one in an upcoming video. Im going to attempt to reshape it and make it a bit more rounded
@jdmb03
Жыл бұрын
I've owned a few Glocks over the decades, G19, 2-4, G23, G26, G30. Agree with you about the Glock texture, it really does suck. The PFC9 gives me a firm grip without rubbing me raw when I carry IWB. The PFC9 grip angle is perfect and the trigger/trigger guard are superior.
@360TacticalSolutions
Жыл бұрын
I will say I wish the grip for the P80 was a little bit more rounded. It feels a bit square. At the same time…way better than a stock glock
@obeace4495
3 жыл бұрын
I got a good deal at Buds 100 bucks for a serialized lower and built it like you would with a AR-15 lower and I gotta say I'm in love
@360TacticalSolutions
3 жыл бұрын
They are great. Not perfect, but closer to it than a Glock is for me. There are definitely a couple things I would change about it…which Ill be addressing in an upcoming video comparison between the P80 and the M&P. All in all though its a great gun
@sebathadah1559
2 жыл бұрын
I just bought one today. I have read that they have eventual sear issues. But "ventual" is subjective. I squeezed 150 rounds after cleaning it and it ran great.
@360TacticalSolutions
2 жыл бұрын
So far so good with mine. Luckily they use all Glock parts so if it does happen to break down it will be easy to get it running again
@mr_evil_overlord5
2 ай бұрын
I like CZ and the Shadow Systems MR920, this is a great alternative to a block. Shave the front of the frame down a little and it fits a block holster about the same as the MR920. Love the beavertail and magwell for hand jujitsu getting tight groups.
@ElsinoreRacer
2 жыл бұрын
Built the G17 version. Not hard. Totally stock except a flared well and a light. It IS all about the ergonomics. Anything feels familiar after while, but this felt like an old friend from the start. Like trying out golf clubs or a racquet or a bat, you grab one and it's the right one and bam, it ends right there. It's that deal. I think if I a guy is a devoted Glock fan and tries one of these he will have unwelcome thoughts.
@DirtyHarry-lo8fr
2 жыл бұрын
What an awesome looking M&P! Great video!
@360TacticalSolutions
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I’m actually doing a follow up on that M&P next month so keep an eye out
@Lolly-hf3pj
3 жыл бұрын
Very informative video thanks
@maxman-357
3 жыл бұрын
First time here, T Electrick recommend your channel. I never held a Glock., but this is a topic I am interested. Looking for what I like to carry for my CCL.
@360TacticalSolutions
3 жыл бұрын
T is a great guy. Glad to have you here. My advice for picking a concealment gun is to find a range that has a rental program. Spend a couple months going back and renting different pistols. Get a feel for how they shoot. Figure out what feels good in your hand and what gun seems to be consistently accurate. Thats the only way to pick a gun because what's comfortable for me, what im personally accurate with may not work the same for you
@spose678
Жыл бұрын
Had a Glock 19 Gen 5 then got the p80 compact. Got to say the p80 is way better for me and is bad ass looking too!
@360TacticalSolutions
Жыл бұрын
It’s funny because they come up with a new gen of glock and it’s like wait which one is the new glock cause it doesnt seem any different than the last one. There is zero innovation with the glock
@mikew6135
2 жыл бұрын
If you are happy shooting Glocks, the P80 grip angle is still better. Just ergonomics. This is a no brainer. If you like the Glock 19 skip the Glock and buy the P80. Slam dunk even though this reviewer is kind of depressing in his presentation. Maybe drink some sort of energy drink or get more sleep. Otherwise a good thorough review.
@ATeamReilly
3 жыл бұрын
Great info. Now i can order one
@360TacticalSolutions
3 жыл бұрын
I’m really considering ordering a black frame to do a build on from the ground up
@DynoSauR4Truth
6 ай бұрын
Classic Firearms has this gun for $400 currently. Was thinking about ordering one. I had a Glock 19 Gen 4 when they first came out but, it wore my bird finger raw after 100 rounds. That trigger undercut on the PFC9 would probably alleviate that. My M&P's have always felt good in the hand.
@360TacticalSolutions
6 ай бұрын
At that price I’d definitely check it out. There’s another really good one I’m working on a review for, Zro Delta makes the FKS9 for the same price. High quality and running really well so far. They also make one that’s a modular platform called the One. Little expensive but it looks really cool in terms of how it works. I’m going to order one but I can’t decide what size alnk.to/g3aGO9b
@noneya135
2 жыл бұрын
Nicely done review.
@360TacticalSolutions
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@scottbbfrostelfuego9538
3 жыл бұрын
If you live in NY State, you have a higher chance than most other states, to be in a position to have to do a real world, high stress mag change due to the stupid 10 round magazine restrictions. Maybe one day NY will become a part of America 🇺🇸 #ShallNotBeInfringed
@360TacticalSolutions
3 жыл бұрын
Thats actually a great point that I havent considered. I’m in WA and they are trying like hell to make us join the club with you guys, CA and all the other states restricting capacity.
@scottbbfrostelfuego9538
3 жыл бұрын
@@360TacticalSolutions Yessir. It's all an infringement on our 2A rights. #ShallNotBeInfringed
@bdr32965
Жыл бұрын
I don't really have an issue with the grip angle of the Glocks, but that is usually the biggest argument I hear from the majority of people that don't like Glocks. Although the majority of my semi auto handguns are Glock, I am by no means a Glock fanboy, I just prefer shooting what feels best in my hands and for me Glock feels good to shoot, of course I have bigger hands, so the chunkier grips of the Glock pistols fit my hands better.
@360TacticalSolutions
Жыл бұрын
And id say thats the biggest point that can be made…whatever feels best in your hand. I dont think anyone should buy a gun before range testing it against other guns to see what their level of accuracy and comfort it. That should always be part of the buying process.
@mmsizzlak
2 жыл бұрын
What a morning! I totally forgot I subbed to your channel...I never considered a p80 up until now since I'm pretty much a CZ guy but the aftermarket for them is...
@360TacticalSolutions
2 жыл бұрын
Aftermarket is definitely loaded with goodies for the P80. I much prefer the M&P and the aftermarket for those is catching up but nothing beats the Glock platform for aftermarket support
@somedude2734
Жыл бұрын
P80 is excellent Glock almost clone. I prefer 1911 handgrip angle of p80. Both great guns.
@360TacticalSolutions
Жыл бұрын
So far this is one of my favorite glock clones
@SigmaYTV
3 жыл бұрын
Would parts from a pfc9 fit on a unsirealized bottom kit? I have a full build but looking into adding better components but if I can build a range pistol with the parts I have now that would be awesome
@360TacticalSolutions
3 жыл бұрын
Yes. It’s the same lower. The only difference is the unserialized version isn’t complete when it comes to you. So you could definitely upgrade parts on your current gun and more those parts to a new lower
@robertporter4163
Жыл бұрын
I can’t seem to find a holster for OWB
@360TacticalSolutions
Жыл бұрын
Hey im sorry that I didn't see this sooner. Drop Zone or the MTH1 from McKinaTec www.mckinatec.com Use 360TS for 10% off
@texasbeast239
3 жыл бұрын
I don't swear by the Glock brand. I swear by 10mm. I just can't get down with the 9mm round. My G20 is still my EDCC because it is the oldest, longest running 10mm gun in the world, and even though it is full size, it still remains my smallest 10mm pistol. But that PFC sure is nice to look at though.
@mghegotagun
3 жыл бұрын
You can make a g20sf out of the pf45 frame
@SANTANA1deep
2 жыл бұрын
@digduck2020 🤣🤣🤣
@Honda1k
2 жыл бұрын
I might have misunderstood you in the video but did you say that the steel city magwell extends the grid by a quarter of an inch?
@360TacticalSolutions
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, its actually a little less than a quarter in
@Honda1k
2 жыл бұрын
@@360TacticalSolutions do you think it add any additional room from the trigger guard undercut down to the magwell I need about a quarter inch for my pinky?
@360TacticalSolutions
2 жыл бұрын
@@Honda1k yes thats one of the bonus to using a magwel is that you get a little extra length for your pinky to be secured. This is exactly what you are looking for
@Honda1k
2 жыл бұрын
I just received my magwell today it completely changed my shooting alot tighter group's
@360TacticalSolutions
2 жыл бұрын
@@Honda1k Glad to hear it. And im sure the feel of the gun in your hand is way better as well
@Erik-rc7iy
3 жыл бұрын
Nice video, will the magpul pmags fit this puppy?
@360TacticalSolutions
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, any Glock mags will work in it weather they are OEM, magpul or whatever off brand mags you can find
@shannmee9892
Жыл бұрын
Thank you...
@360TacticalSolutions
Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@slickraccoon420
Жыл бұрын
Grip angle and texture will get you sold
@big_red_606
3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm gonna have to trade my 26 in on one now!
@360TacticalSolutions
3 жыл бұрын
I really like mine…maybe not as much as my M&P but i like it a hell of a lot more than a Glock
@PNW_Adventures1
3 жыл бұрын
Trade it for a sub compact p80
@jodymoore882
Жыл бұрын
Which magwell did you buy? Are the PFC9 and PF940C the same pistol? Want to make sure I get the right one. Mine is the pre-built PF9C that comes serialized. Thanks
@360TacticalSolutions
Жыл бұрын
The 9 and 940C are the same with the exception of the 940C being the 80% version. Mine is the PFC9 and I use this magwell steelcityarsenal.com/product/steel-city-arsenal-slim-magwell-for-polymer-80-pf940c-frames-cerakote-armor-black/
@jodymoore882
Жыл бұрын
@@360TacticalSolutions awesome. I ordered a polymer one from Agency called the Syndicate for $25, but the more I look at yours, Ive been sold on it. Love the way it looks and I really wanted aluminum anyways, I was just trying to get out cheap. I actually ordered that 5 days ago and I just picked the pistol up today, first impressions, I love the way it feels in the hand. I tried to fill one of the P80 mags it came with and I only got in 12, when I went to take them out, the spring got stuck or something and all the bullets jumbled up and got stuck. Im going to run OEM Glock mags in it just so I’ll feel better lol
@USArmyZ28
2 жыл бұрын
When you had the malfunctions what kind of mags were you using?
@360TacticalSolutions
2 жыл бұрын
The couple malfunctions I ran into were with OEM Glock mags. 100% was the low budget remanufactured ammo. Ive actually had a handful of malfunctions in that batch of ammo through various guns. The Polymer80 though, runs great
@Codevil.
2 жыл бұрын
Tactical Overwatch man!
@Go2Sleep87
2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried the gen 5 Glock 19 magazines with that steel city magwell yet? I’m just curious if the base pad on the gen 5 magazines will fit that specific magwell because those are the only magazines I can find on sale right now.
@360TacticalSolutions
2 жыл бұрын
I haven't. I'm actually not sure there's enough difference is the mags at all as far as fitment goes
@klkk3382
3 жыл бұрын
wait so we can't order a p80 jig kit to wa state???
@360TacticalSolutions
3 жыл бұрын
I have found sites that will and sites that won’t ship an 80% here. I’ve also had some gun stores say 80% lowers are fine and other stores that say they aren’t. Personally I haven’t done too deep of research to try and confirm
@SANTANA1deep
2 жыл бұрын
Not snitching, but I ordered two, and I was able to receive it. 😉
@hummerfan8889
Жыл бұрын
Dont buy 80% lower. Buy the whole pistol. I bought 2 kits and both out of spec. Gave em to a gunsmith see if he can salvage em. The customer service may be the worst ive ever experienced. Worse that taurus. I bought the complete pistol 1st and i love it. I definitley recomend complete pistol.
@melvinroomes371
3 жыл бұрын
What fiber optic front sight did you install?
@360TacticalSolutions
3 жыл бұрын
Just a cheap $23 one from Amazon. Company is Hiviz. I’d leave a link but KZitem aren’t being real friendly these days. This sight is temporary. Once the slide is cut for an optic I’ll put a suppressor height fiber on it
@adrianboomin
2 жыл бұрын
good video!
@wood-wheel-wizard
2 жыл бұрын
Build don’t buy!
@360TacticalSolutions
2 жыл бұрын
Its too bad that there are states where you cant build, and you have to buy
@EagleRun23
2 жыл бұрын
I like the steel city mag well, but sheesh its $75
@360TacticalSolutions
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly the majority of magwells are in that range. There are some plastic ones for $40 or so but Im definitely not interested in plastic for a magwell. I hate spending $75 but its worth it considering the quality
@EagleRun23
2 жыл бұрын
@@360TacticalSolutions I have not tried one. May need to look into them. I find the p80’s pretty good out of the box.
@162010ash
2 жыл бұрын
Mine failed to feed and stove piped every round when I got it , but after about 100 rounds it was good and havnt had an issue since . Anyone else's shoot low ? If so is it a sight issue ?
@360TacticalSolutions
2 жыл бұрын
Im actually at my desk right now working on one that belongs to a friend. He's having the same issue. I can visually see there's an issue with the feed ramp but its not a Polymer80 barrel its a Patmos. Setting up the dremel so I can get it fixed for him
@TElectrik
3 жыл бұрын
I love me glocks lol but that other one is nice! Salute
@360TacticalSolutions
3 жыл бұрын
That Polymer80 is pretty nice. Still waiting for the holster to ship for it so I can carry it.
@TElectrik
3 жыл бұрын
@@360TacticalSolutions righteous!
@sallutz
3 жыл бұрын
@@360TacticalSolutions what holster did you go with?
@douglasphillips24
3 жыл бұрын
Just finished my first P80 build PF40V2 & my only gripe is the rail system fells like a dry chalk board when I rack it even with alot of oil.
@360TacticalSolutions
3 жыл бұрын
Couple hundred rounds of break in should smooth that out
@douglasphillips24
3 жыл бұрын
@Matthew Hardin Thanks. This was my first build & big learning curve so my next one should be alot smoother with everything I've learned hands on the first P80.
@uwont4gitme
2 жыл бұрын
PFC9 vs PSA Dagger..which shoots best?
@360TacticalSolutions
2 жыл бұрын
Thats a video I've been wanting to do. Sadly my bank account and the stock at PSA haven't been able to line up in order for me to get my hands on the Dagger. Honestly at that price I don't see how the Dagger could lose
@pointyshineygreentip8718
2 жыл бұрын
Are competition/IDPA holsters compatible?
@360TacticalSolutions
2 жыл бұрын
The trigger guard for the Polymer80 is different from the Glock. I dont believe they are interchangeable
@erickchavez8465
3 жыл бұрын
Where you get that mag well
@360TacticalSolutions
3 жыл бұрын
That is a steel city arsenal direct from their site. I can't leave a link or KZitem will break my balls for "directing people to a site that sells gun parts". Do a search for Steel City Arsenal, that Magwell is legit
@jodymoore882
Жыл бұрын
@@360TacticalSolutions to my understanding. The PFC9 and the PF940C have different frames? Yours looks to be like the PFC9, the serialized one that comes pre built? That is what I have, so which model magwell did you choose? Thanks
@markvaldovinos5576
3 жыл бұрын
Halfway through the video I saw the motherfuking Brotha Lynch Hung poster
@360TacticalSolutions
3 жыл бұрын
I’m actually really surprised how often someone comments on it. Every time I’m thinking I should move that poster into another room someone leaves a comment and I have to just keep it right there in the office
@SANTANA1deep
2 жыл бұрын
@@360TacticalSolutions I came here just to mention this. Thank you for bringing me back to high school. 💜
@CarrieWard-ny1zl
3 ай бұрын
@@360TacticalSolutions love the brother Lynn home poster too! I chilled with him and Chico, he’s super cool, so will a Glock 3gen 19 Magwell fit the polymer 80 PF940c? I literally saw an aluminum one on temu for six bucks. and since my wife orders that crap all the time I was gonna have her grab it for me, but I wasn’t sure if they were compatible?…
@360TacticalSolutions
3 ай бұрын
@@CarrieWard-ny1zl definitely won’t fit. All the internal parts are the same but the grip shape is different unfortunately. $6 would be a steal lol
@noobonpc275
2 жыл бұрын
Damn I just learned a lot
@360TacticalSolutions
2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it
@noobonpc275
2 жыл бұрын
@@360TacticalSolutions to bad there’s no legal way to have one in California. I could make one and request a serial number that’s about it
@360TacticalSolutions
2 жыл бұрын
@@noobonpc275 Im in Washington and we arent far behind you as far as restrictive laws go. People keep saying just move...but its not as easy as all that unfortunately. Keep fighting the good fight because we lose when we don't stand together
@robertporter4163
Жыл бұрын
Where can I find a holster for this pistol?
@360TacticalSolutions
Жыл бұрын
www.mckinatec.com You can use code 360TS for I believe 10% off. They have the Drop Zone or MTH1. Both OWB, just depends on what style you are looking for
@ham5483
Жыл бұрын
This is what glock should be by now, i handled a p80 at my lgs and was amazed at how great it felt, i trust my life with glock but the ergonomics are just shit, the grip angle is a joke, and texture sucks. The remedy is getting a grip reduction+stipple, another $300 for a $600 dollar gun...
@360TacticalSolutions
Жыл бұрын
It’s funny because Glock has all the money and engineers and experience and customers…yet every generation they make is essentially the same as the last and they NEVER really advance the platform. Innovation isnt their thing. I love my Polymer80 for what it is. I prefer others like the M&P but I like having a glock based gun in the safe just in case, might as well be a polymer80
@therealandrewcano
3 жыл бұрын
I shaved the rough grip off my polymer 80
@360TacticalSolutions
3 жыл бұрын
It’s definitely not for everyone. I have a friend who used some 320grit sand paper to just lightly go over it to smooth his out. I personally prefer a more aggressive grip
@therealandrewcano
3 жыл бұрын
@@360TacticalSolutions 👍🏻
@20alroco
2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me, but when someone buys a P80 instead of building it out they lose man points...... Anyone share this opinion?
@360TacticalSolutions
2 жыл бұрын
Its too bad there are states that have banned the 80% guns. Ill take that loss of “man points” over a weapon violation any day
@hustlewithmusclemusic6470
2 жыл бұрын
So it’s better than a p80 PFC40C ?
@360TacticalSolutions
2 жыл бұрын
The PF940C is the same thing except the 80% version. PFC9 is the one that’s fully built and serialized
@LilKorea18
11 ай бұрын
Glock > Clone
@360TacticalSolutions
11 ай бұрын
😂
@EverythingisFire
3 жыл бұрын
Jesus..I'm here to learn about the P80 but your M&P is stealing the show, for me 😁
@360TacticalSolutions
3 жыл бұрын
Haha yea that M&P tends to be a show stopper whenever I bring it out
@kylonpolk9871
2 жыл бұрын
can u carry one at 18?
@360TacticalSolutions
2 жыл бұрын
That depends on your state’s laws
@devontaeray1612
3 жыл бұрын
Does it take Glock mags
@360TacticalSolutions
3 жыл бұрын
Yes it is basically a Glock. All gen3 Glock parts will work on this gun
@USCtrojanFootball1
2 ай бұрын
Pinky chair?! 😅
@360TacticalSolutions
2 ай бұрын
Haha ya the pinkie has to be comfortable
@plumberguy3553
3 жыл бұрын
I bought this gun as it was touted as being way better than a stock glock , I hate hate hate this gun it is a pos it is one of the most inaccurate hand guns I own and have fired does not mater what bullet either it just shoots awful, I am talking 6 inch groups at 15, 20 feet it truly is a pos and it sucks because the fit feel ergonomics are fantastic on this handgun
@360TacticalSolutions
3 жыл бұрын
I would never say way better than a Glock. It has advantages over the Glock for certain people. I do feel like 6” groups at that distance are incredibly unacceptable and its something I would email Polymer80 about if its one that was pre built, not an 80% build. Its possible that yours has a bad barrel. If I were doing it all over again I would buy just the frame and build it from the ground up. I actually may end up doing that over the next few months. Anyways, check in with Polymer80, maybe they can help get that accuracy dialed in with a new barrel
@jdmb03
Жыл бұрын
@@360TacticalSolutions Or he is just a terrible shooter.
@360TacticalSolutions
Жыл бұрын
@@jdmb03 there are a lot of people out there who arent good shooters but arent willing to admit it, let alone take the time to learn a new gun before branding it as total garbage
@denverforbis2767
Жыл бұрын
Pimp I'm in my 20s my eyesight is trash
@360TacticalSolutions
Жыл бұрын
That sucks. It only gets worse with age
@OldMastyr3
Жыл бұрын
None of this lovely 2A freedom means anything to those of us who live in Commiefornia, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island and Washington....as cowards refuse to ship to us there.
@360TacticalSolutions
Жыл бұрын
While I understand and agree with a certain amount of how you feel, I have to say that your comment is a serious misrepresentation of what's going on and to be honest its a bit disrespectful to the companies working hard to preserve our rights. I live in Washington so Im going through it right now as far as the gun laws go. Thats an issue of voters in my state and the slow process of the supreme court finalizing rulings having to do with our freedom. A company not shipping to California because their product isnt legally able to be imported into the state doesn't make them cowards. What happens when they start breaking those laws? Next thing you know they find themself in court going up against state governments with legal budgets that will destroy companies in court. Instead they follow the rules while also donating to organizations like FPC who brings law suits against states that are trampling our rights. These companies put together fund raisers and spread awareness and bend over backward to do everything possible to get their product to you in your state but in a legal way while we wait for court rulings to fix these laws. Out of curiosity how much have you donated to Firearms Policy Coalition or any of the other organizations heading up the fight against those laws we all hate so much? It's easy to point and call them cowards, I get that. It's hard to get out in your community and spread thoughtful and intelligent awareness, bring in new voters, help people with opposing views understand where they have gone wrong. I get that. It's hard to donate money to the fight when we are in a shit economy ran by a geriatric Alzheimer's patient who shits his pants and falls asleep while attending events. I get that. Throw down $10 here and there for the cause, get out and be a positive force for the cause...but don't put that on frustration you have on companies that are literally the biggest reason you even have what 2A rights you have at this point. We need to unite, not fight
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