i am a scot from a working class miners village from the east end of glasgow,my village and many others lost jobs that were seemed to be bedded in the bedrock,yet i still believe,Margaret Thatcher was the saviour of our nation,the industries that we used to rely upon were all dead in the water,she knew this,yes it was extremely harsh,but we needed it,now look at Scotland,a vibrant economy and a sector of private industry that will last for centuries....thank you Mrs T,you laid the foundations for what we have today.
@highphysics3617
3 жыл бұрын
Ditto,ditto,The Dragonslayer from Michael Portillo. Why so many people screamed at Margaret Thatcher regarding the miner's strikes. I could not grasp that at all. Miners were battling miners. She wasn't in the middle of the strike actions. The night of her third conservative win was magnificent,and,showed just what a lady M Thatcher was. She had incredible poise,unbelievable articulation,and,immaculate humour. What her colleagues did to her was unforgivable.
@dadagan8815
2 жыл бұрын
@@highphysics3617 She also had a good dose of dumb luck, if the stupid Junta in Argentina had not erupted and given Thatcher a nice war on a silver plate she would never have gotten that third term. Dumb luck, Aggression and jingoism sure worked in her favor.
@ryanconnor9240
Жыл бұрын
She is sucking Hitlers cock in hell at the moment.
@andrewbryden3256
6 жыл бұрын
Portillo would have been a great PM, . Thatcher had a job to do she done a great job looking back at it now, Labour closed more coal pits than Thatcher.
@glitch4465
3 жыл бұрын
Trouble is I never think he wanted to be PM, he had many chances and didn't take it.
@RobertK1993
Жыл бұрын
Labour close coal pits sources
@chaydavis8442
3 жыл бұрын
I love the unintended pun by Ken Clarke at 51:30 "...it was a 'major' political catastrophe".
@Mavrilon
12 жыл бұрын
Excellent program.God Bless Lady Thatcher .
@tobylerone4285
2 жыл бұрын
Honk
@monorail1990b
11 жыл бұрын
I watch this far too often...such an excellent political documentary; fascinating topic, persuasive narrative, great interviews. Unlike Michael Cockerell's 'Living with Boris' show, or whatever it was called.
@jackwilliamsmith8734
9 ай бұрын
I like Portillo’s “Problem with the Tories” documentary more. It was done when all the Brexit deadlock stuff was going on in 2019. Many of the same events are discussed but with updated perspectives. It talks about how the EU issue has been a thorn in the Conservative and Unionist Party’s side for decades, like a curse.
@LongerLasting
3 ай бұрын
@@jackwilliamsmith8734The European issue also convulsed Labour to the point that the SDP split off. Quite how Labour subsequently became so unified as Europhiles is a story to tell
@jackwilliamsmith8734
3 ай бұрын
@@LongerLasting It has been theorised that it was Jaques Delores’ address to the TUC in the late 1980s that did it for them.
@tnakai1971jp
10 жыл бұрын
I am an uneducated Japanese of humble means but I am inclined to believe that no party will ever do the like of this again. Japan has not been entirely democratic over the last 150 years but even for an average Japanese, what has been done to Mrs Thatcher later the Lady Thatcher does not make sense.
@elsiejoycelarge1630
7 жыл бұрын
tnakai1971jp We couldn't wait to get rid of her.
@therespectedlex9794
5 жыл бұрын
tnakai1971jp You Japanese conservatives are less monetarist compared to Thatcher. Her policy was more dictated by market forces. Japan's government cares more about way of life, such as safe guarding manufacturing jobs, I believe.
@angelsaltamontes7336
5 жыл бұрын
tnakai197tjp..."Humble means" MAYBE---i've not seen your mansion---"uneducated"? -----"Education" is what one makes of it, & it's awfully-often confused with "wisdom"; worse, wisdom is often sneered at by "educated" fools, the greater the "education" the nastier the sneer. This brings us to "what has been done to Mrs. Thatcher". -----I imagine you've seen the famous engraving of Gulliver "restrained" by the Lilliputians. Thus are statesmen*harried by demagogues. -----From Japan to America to every place in the world, your perception should be visible and your humility your honor. Any who differ with what you said show deficiency of perception, if not of wisdom; folk so hobbled very often show deficiency of humility. Funny how they're widely honored--- -----But by each other, my friend, and only by each other. -----BRAVO for your defense of the Lady's honor. * YOU know i mean the term GENERICALLY, Snowflake. You've been listening to too many damn demagogues.
@joebrown2661
5 жыл бұрын
Not as great as the Japanese Liberal Democrats... 40 years in power!
@RobertK1993
Жыл бұрын
Thatcher was a despicable human being who fooled gullible people to vote for her and I'm right wing.
@marc21091
5 жыл бұрын
Note that this very interesting documentary was made in 2007. David Cameron was leader of the opposition and Tony Blair was in the process of handing over to Gordon Brown. The date of posting on KZitem (September 2012) should be disregarded when looking at the political context in which this film was made. See last frame with date' MMVII'.
@MarioStahl1983
5 жыл бұрын
Michael Portillo had something the other post Thatcher Tory leaders never had: GLAMOUR. He would have been the only one to have a slight chance against Tony Blair. It shouldn't be the last time that Tories chose the wrong leader.
@josephthomasjr.6551
2 жыл бұрын
What a clever title! I love it! And, of course, Michael is hugely engaging. But then, he always is.
@charlie_charldon
Жыл бұрын
"losing a chancellor is generally a sign of a government falling apart" Look at how those words came to haunt the Tories again.
@amattchronism
3 жыл бұрын
I like to think of this as the Tory version of "The Wilderness Years" Also, lol at Michael Howard's struggle with answering these questions
@alainriviere7950
3 жыл бұрын
The voice of Reason: Mrs. Thatcher . Thank you for all you've done .
@sidneywoolf-hoyle3102
5 жыл бұрын
The exchange between Portillo and Howard starting at 57:00 is recreated almost word for word in Portillo's "Trouble with the Tories" from last night, filmed in 2019. Of course this documentary is from about a decade earlier, but it makes me think that there must be an element of scripting to these interviews.
@Eat-MyGoal
2 жыл бұрын
Or they've simply had that conversation so many times they almost know it off-by-heart. And these things are rehearsed and/or reshot, sometimes more than once. It's not scripted....
@johnnotrealname8168
Жыл бұрын
@@Eat-MyGoal Yeah I suspect it is this. There is a similar prompt from Portillo but Howard's response is different.
@richardlaversuch2901
7 жыл бұрын
Absolute certainty as to right and wrong is a valuable commodity in politics.
@PoloABD
6 жыл бұрын
So sad portillo didn’t quite make it. This is an honest, nuanced and graceful documentary.
@saa82vik
Жыл бұрын
i think it was for the best. he´s better as a colorful television personality than a conviction politician
@alexbolton27
10 жыл бұрын
There are some cracking music choices.
@peterroberts6933
9 жыл бұрын
Cracking music, but what are the pieces? I can only name one...
@jsward96
3 жыл бұрын
@@peterroberts6933 Roads by Portishead is at 40:45
@jeremyfreedman6482
3 жыл бұрын
Michael Portilo the greatest prime minister we never had. He would have been a great leader.
@johnking5174
2 жыл бұрын
Even if he had have won his seat in 1997, he said why should he bother standing to lead a party which will never win the next general election, as the mountain was too high to climb in 4 years, when Labour won a 179 seat majority.
@RobertK1993
Жыл бұрын
@@johnking5174 Tory party full of snowflakes
@anaplaza3742
11 ай бұрын
Aunque hayan transcurrido diez años,sigue siendo un bonito y sentido homenaje a esta Gran Mujer
@benjamineckford1718
4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know which version of “Feeling Good” is used around 1:02:10?
@nautilusshell4969
4 жыл бұрын
Nina Simone?
@finlaymiles9798
Жыл бұрын
why does this randomly have such a banger soundtrack lmao
@schlongersaurus
4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know the song at 18:42?
@mikeh4011
3 жыл бұрын
How right she was on Europe. I love that bloody women forever.
@vibhavagarwalla8718
6 ай бұрын
That young Portillo had more sugar in his tank than 4 Dunkin Holiday Frappuccinos.
@simonhellier7281
5 жыл бұрын
Thatcher was monumental, and the Tories only fully reunited with David Cameron as a one nation Conservative. The country’s relationship with Europe is even more problematic and has been the Tories Achilles heel for 50yrs. It’s destroyed May.
@mattburdett9223
9 жыл бұрын
Sounds cuts out a couple of times around 1 hour through
@MatthewMcVeagh
9 жыл бұрын
Matt Burdett I wonder if the uploader was warned about copyright of a song and cut it out.
@BibinBCherian
6 ай бұрын
The woman who made Britain great again. Nice opening sequence btw.
@jayrodny8419
4 жыл бұрын
When I saw the finality of what they did to thatcher I cried tears 😭
@tobylerone4285
2 жыл бұрын
Of joy
@nudisco300
2 жыл бұрын
The problem with the Tories leadership election in 97 was all the candidates were old models from a previous time. If you just look at them all standing in that group they are all 1960s 70s and 80s politicians. Labour looked like a party for the millennium, the Tories seemed like they were still somewhere in the mid 80s.
@jonmarchant5334
11 жыл бұрын
Best man in England!
@bazboy24
3 жыл бұрын
There are two types of people in this world, those who do and achieve lots and make many mistakes and there are those who make no mistakes but do nothing
@mks8172
4 жыл бұрын
Why did David C. not fully embrace Thatcherism as Prime Minister only softly trend in those steps.
@peterroberts6933
9 жыл бұрын
There are some brilliant pieces of music used, does anyone have a listing for the different tracks?
@MatthewMcVeagh
9 жыл бұрын
Peter Roberts I dunno but I just recognised CURVE! at 6 minutes! Wow!
@ChristopherDLewis
9 жыл бұрын
Peter Roberts Mainly Philip Glass & Michael Nyman music. If you pinpoint a specific track I can tell you what it is.
@anthonyhowarth2177
8 жыл бұрын
Best PM EVER. Could do with her now
@mickey841q
4 жыл бұрын
The Tories removed her to their cost, they turned on her and replaced her with Major, a decent enough and well meaning guy, but it was the beginning of the end for the party. He won in 92 to be fair, but that was more better the devil and no one wanted Kinnock and a reversion to high taxes and nationalised industries, and although he won the election the party was on the slide and once Kinnock was out, Smith & Blair had the labour party going in the right way. The Tories will look back with regret on kicking the old girl out and should have let the public do it at an election. Thatcher did what was needed to get us back on our feet and yes it was harsh in places but it was needed. The party never really recovered and the it's still divided over Europe, it's always been their achilles
@johnschlesinger2009
4 жыл бұрын
Hugely interesting, but why does the sound disappear so often?
@nautilusshell4969
4 жыл бұрын
It may be something to do with copyright.
@user-ml1in9pk2h
2 жыл бұрын
The name of the song 15:20
@40bytes
11 жыл бұрын
"thatcheritescot" ??? My God, send in David Attenborough, it looks like it may be a new species!
@davidedwards6230
2 жыл бұрын
Whatever the narrative weaknesses, my goodness, Cameron was a lightweight.
@masonkerr8359
3 жыл бұрын
Twin Peaks song at the 43 minute mark. Weird choice Portillo
@johnking5174
5 жыл бұрын
11:55 - Do Not Be Fooled! Ed Vaizey saying he was a Thatcherite is no surprise. Born the son of a Labour peer. Educated at St Paul's School London and Oxford. Qualified as a barrister. Not exactly your typical teenager interested in politics. Yes, he is probably now a moderate Tory.
@jackwilliamsmith8734
9 ай бұрын
He’s wet! A Pink Tory who got suspended after he went against the three-line-whip to vote to allow Opposition MPs to seize control of Parliamentary business so that they may thwart Brexit.
@bruh949
2 жыл бұрын
I wish Maggie resigned in 1989 so we still had 10 years of Maggie, around when that first minor leadership election happened in 89. If she resigned then and Major took over, I think the Conservative Party would have been United in the 90s that meant no new labour and Major would have won in 1997 and we have 20+ years of 2 great PMs. All by a simple change of 1 year.
@jackstuhley1745
Жыл бұрын
It’s a little more complicated than that.
@Whatzzzz999
10 ай бұрын
Michael Portillo. Not Thatcher's protege. Thatcher's lacky. One of many. A dark episode in British political history. Nearly as dark as the current one.
@BossySwan
Жыл бұрын
The Lord Portillo of Redtrouser and Trainjourney
@cBearTV-
2 жыл бұрын
"I don't want to sound complacent "....he said in a slurring voice!!..imagine your private secretary being utterly squiffy before the most momentus vote of your career!!
@christinelivesey9077
5 жыл бұрын
I really disliked Margaret Thatcher but I wish we had her in charge of the Brexit negotiations.
@johnking5174
5 жыл бұрын
Same here
@highphysics3617
3 жыл бұрын
She was vehement in her dislike of what they were doing regarding Brexit. Look at it now. She had her head together even then !" No,no,no."...remember?
@aarondavis8943
Жыл бұрын
These BBC political docos always have great music.
@GodBlessTheBaroness
Жыл бұрын
What a remarkable lady
@-DC-
2 жыл бұрын
And here we are in 2022 with a Conservative in name only Party.
@bruh949
2 жыл бұрын
Funny how the Maastricht rebels planned to try stop European integration, yet they helped bring down Majors government and put in a PM who supported a European superstate and even wanted to destroy the pound, something major certainly opposed.
@johnnotrealname8168
2 жыл бұрын
What was wrong with the poll tax? More people paying a tax is not in itself bad.
@johnking5174
Жыл бұрын
It was a flat rate for everyone. So whether you were a multi millionaire or on the dole, you all paid the same rate. How fair is that?
@johnnotrealname8168
Жыл бұрын
@@johnking5174 Depends on the measure. For example if it is land then more land equals more paid. Was it really only because it was a flat tax? You telling me half the country was up in arms because of that? WoW!
@johnking5174
Жыл бұрын
@@johnnotrealname8168 Yes, as Kenneth Baker, one of Thatcher's cabinet ministers said, it led to an old aged couple on their pension paying £600 a year poll tax, when just the previous year they were paying £200 council tax. How fair is that? £600 a year for someone earning say £25,000 a year in 1990 was peanuts of course, but for pensioners with a trickle of income and not much savings, it ruined them.
@johnnotrealname8168
Жыл бұрын
@@johnking5174 I thought he proposed the idea.
@johnking5174
Жыл бұрын
@@johnnotrealname8168 No, he had to implement it.
@umbertotoni3021
3 жыл бұрын
Time is the Lord of the True.
@Liselle1100
9 ай бұрын
Despite what anyone thinks, I will always say that Margaret Thatcher was the best PM we ever had. She was the first I remember and easily the best of all those we’ve had since. Not one of them could ever match her. Oh, how we could have done with her throughout all these years. She would never have allowed the UK to fall apart as it has done.
@zaqvoir4856
3 жыл бұрын
it wasn't the fact that they got rid of a leader who won three elections ... it was the fact that she went mad with her own perceived power ... "i do everything in this government" ... she lost her ability to lead ... she "ordered" ... she became disoriented with the reality of the UK ... in other words: she went f*****g nuts.
@dweller6065
3 жыл бұрын
In later years did Lawson ever recant his advocacy for the pound to join the euro? Because Thatcher was 100% correct in her policy instincts on this one.
@AmitPatel-wu9dg
3 жыл бұрын
Yes he is actually now a ardent brexiteer and campaigned for the UK to leave the EU
@mcawilson60
5 жыл бұрын
The conclusion of this, that a successful leader must stylize after the fads of Neoliberalism & Globalism...has been totally rebutted by BREXIT, Trump, Orban & Salvini. Howard was on target running on tighter immigration in 2005...he should have done so more forcefully. The Tories should also have opposed the Iraq war.
@johnstirling9120
3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Michael took the train.
@louiseowusu246
6 жыл бұрын
I have to say that I never agreed with Maggie's politics or how she was towards the end especially towards people like Geoffrey Howe. However, I will give her these things. You knew what she stood for. There's none of the flip floppery we have now. Also, in that last question time we saw, despite all what was going on, she hit back with humour. I'm not sure I could have done that. And thirdly, while I do think she was in an untenable position and had to go, the way it was done was quite bad (It's happening again now). If possible, an election should have been called. The guy who was campaigning for her probably knew she wasn't going to win. However, what he did was underhanded - he should have said straight up what he thought. That said, she shouldn't have assumed that she could rely on him or at least kept a regular check on his actions. Given how things were, she should have been aware that winning wasn't certain. Very interesting documentary though.
@newcjon
11 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Thatcherite policies would be very popular now. People are starting to realise that she was right; not only, as you mention, on Europe but that, to paraphrase her, 'the problem with socialism is that you end up running out of other people's money'.
@HopeForestLose
4 жыл бұрын
Was there a technical fault on the sound of Tony's landslide or could you just not bear to hear it? Hilarious coincidence, if that's what it was.
@2010tatanka
6 жыл бұрын
Portillo still hot
@schlongersaurus
4 жыл бұрын
Noooooooo
@minekara6407
2 жыл бұрын
Mrs Thatcher was and remains the greatest PM. No other leader has come close todate. The way she was treated and ousted by those men in her cabinet is shameful. Love Alan Clarks diaries documentary the whole episode. As for the poll tax I was 18 when it was being introduced. I thought it was fair then and remain of the same opinion 30 years on. Good documentary. Sadly history seems to repeat itself with the Tories.
@westbrit4714
9 жыл бұрын
She was, at least, economically a 19th century Liberal And God did Britian need one -Ireland now does
@fergusmurphy8310
3 жыл бұрын
You know that 19th century economic liberalism led to the hands-off approach to the Irish Famine, right?
@philipjones9793
3 жыл бұрын
lol to Iain Duncan smith!
@mssays8525
Жыл бұрын
Oh to have a PM with guts like Maggie again
@mrjohncharlesbrown
Жыл бұрын
Coal gas oil is in decline like socialism and unions you're fucked
@jayrodny8419
4 жыл бұрын
To dump thatcher for major were they crazy!
@pher38
7 жыл бұрын
Conveniently forgets all the Tory sleaze which was a huge factor in the downfall of the Tories. Makes it sound like it was a noble disagreement over policy that brought them down.
@pgl0897
11 жыл бұрын
Thatcherite Scot? Oh... you're the one!
@str.77
Жыл бұрын
What a one-sided affair this film is. But interesting that it reveals, among other things, Cameron's antidemocratoc mindset. Supporting your leader no matter what, even when the point of a leadership election is to determine who should lead the party. Cameron is a true Leninist.
@user-kr6gi8ey4q
4 ай бұрын
What is the point of the constant bloody annoying background music had to cut short watching
@sonnyvarioni1654
Жыл бұрын
Apparently every Tory grandee of the last 50 years is here but John Major didn't consent to be interviewed. The worst of the lot.
@robertwallace7063
Жыл бұрын
She will never be remembered for any good, milk in schools gone, poll tax, miners, wars and her son in Africa to rise up to destabilise a country her daughter is only one who hasn't caused madness
@smithmeister
8 жыл бұрын
If the problem with socialism is running out of other peoples' money, when will your channel run out of other peoples' content?
@cedrichunter9759
9 жыл бұрын
Thatcher blew it, plain and simple.
@cedrichunter9759
8 жыл бұрын
rcx8666c ??
@notdrivingaminimetro
2 жыл бұрын
36:54 Skinner 🤣😂🤣
@matteomontagnese5116
Жыл бұрын
not really a tatcherite; for goodness sake i'm not even a brit (although a bit of an anglophile at times, like only a old fashioned colonial could be...) BUT SHE WAS SOMETHING. These interviews show that, as every leader from Ceasar onwards, she was surrounded by enemies and weaklings. She was right on the dangers of disposing of the nation state and being squeezed between the French administrative state and a Germanic Protectionistic Econo-cracy. And a looming US buggering us in the process. On the community charge, she was right, but only partially so, which usually is the genesis of the worst errors.
@jayrodny8419
4 жыл бұрын
Boris Johnson is full Nigel farage
@laxeystu8096
3 жыл бұрын
I think we can say the Tory party are moving away from Thatchers legacy
@str.77
Жыл бұрын
Bingham seems obsessed with betrayals, whining endlessly about how Thatcher was betrayed (she wasn't) while blasting Major for constantly being betrayed (which he was).
@jayrodny8419
4 жыл бұрын
Major failed because Blair was a liar ego promised all to to all with a smile 😊
@scattygirl1
7 жыл бұрын
Michael Howard's a bit of a hostile witness throughout most of this programme.
@tombergins8215
2 жыл бұрын
These people turned the Tories from Conservatives to the Labor party just a bit less crazy (sometimes). The rest of the time the difference is far from noticeable.
@ThrowbackSoul
6 жыл бұрын
Without conviction. Boring and managerial is precisely who David Cameron is.
@jayrodny8419
4 жыл бұрын
Portillos wrong if basic things are run great 👍 party raises money has organization that party wins
@robinsanders5541
10 ай бұрын
David Mellor describing Ian Duncan-Smith as “The most lamentable choice for leader for the Conservative Party” has aged a bit poorly.
@andy385mc
11 жыл бұрын
he became a tory in uni, humm bet it was free too
@wblakesx
11 жыл бұрын
england needs an absolute monarch and P/s/p
@deanedge5988
3 жыл бұрын
A few honorable expections but mostly a snake slithers around snakes. How arrogant and vile is Mellor (never at the chancery bar).
@aalbulescu212
7 жыл бұрын
Pledge something then@
@Atlasss97
5 жыл бұрын
anyone purusing the comment section do not be fooled. She was an extreme conservative, in her first term her economic policies were such a disaster, she had to u turn and it caused a mini recession.Only reason she got re-elected was bcs of the falkland war and how it boosted her popularity. And let's not forget the poll tax
@KKTR3
Жыл бұрын
This program is actually quite exhausting and stressful to watch the speed that it rushes through events would make Gonzales jealous. Way way to condensed
@kier4931
Жыл бұрын
If only Portillo knew what lay ahead. An even larger disaster to befall his country because of his party.
@PopTop-df9mt
Жыл бұрын
You know in the modern age She'd be considered anti-Semitic
@mattarnold198
7 жыл бұрын
I'd never vote for these populist conservatives! Thatcher's policy of conviction over consensus is completely lost on them - principles aren't supposed to be changed with fashion, her ideas didn't need "modernizing" because they work in any time!
@joshkusiak7613
6 жыл бұрын
Matt Arnold nothing populist about them
@jayrodny8419
4 жыл бұрын
Major Was a minor
@joshtate5328
9 жыл бұрын
Strange how Portillo has re-invented himself as a liberal minded and wise broadcaster. His voice is grating: listening to him is what I think a bucket of warm shit would sound like could it speak.
@cuckingfunt9353
9 жыл бұрын
Josh Tate Very true but Thatcher FFsakes, was a talking pile of excrement.
@jayrodny8419
4 жыл бұрын
And Cameron ran away Teresa ran away weak dull boring
@rcx8666c
8 жыл бұрын
PORTILLO SOUNDS VERY SPANISH... PORTEEYOO NOT PORTILLO
@rcx8666c
8 жыл бұрын
Generalissimo Genesis I HOPE HE ALSO HAD A MOTHER...
@connorkearney6996
10 жыл бұрын
Michael Howards even worse in interviews where he isnt being critisised
@annenunney9907
9 ай бұрын
I never thought she was brilliant
@wblakesx
11 жыл бұрын
yeufg! not foer turning!! how porno-disgusting~ yeuh!!!
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