Did a fine job Corey, explaining these things. Especially in the manner you did it. People HATE this doctrine, and they hate that the scriptures are so clear on this.
@cindyluewho4086
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This was super duper good! I love the way Corey teaches, super simple so that even If can understand it. Thank you for this!
@MG-xv7nl
Жыл бұрын
Brother Corey, thank you for the time you take to research and record these videos. God bless you. May He give you more wisdom, strength, insight and ability. I appreciate you and your ministry. Keep on keeping on.
@Rebecca-pv5ye
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Thank you so much for your teaching brother! May God bless you, your family and your ministry 🙏🏽
@TimothyC.84
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this lesson. To God be the glory 🙏🏾
@Fisherisawesome
Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this! As I have been reading more and more I keep seeing election and preditermed all over! coming from a charismatic and free will background this helped solidify it.
@danielsemere4971
Ай бұрын
Our will never choose God but his mercy made us we will choose him ❤
@TheBloodGospel
Жыл бұрын
The way you explained predestination and election was great brother Corey. Ever since I’ve learned this Doctrine it’s allowed me to have more faith and love God more and thankful for it all in all. Thanks for being a blessing Corey
@reynaldoperez7285
28 күн бұрын
(Ephesians 1:4). ("HE CHOSE US IN HIM) before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and without defect before him" HE CHOSE US IN CHRIST, NOT US IN ADAM, NOT US IN MOSES, NOT US IN PAUL, ONLY US THAT ARE IN CHRIST. IF he chose us in Christ before the foundation of the world to be holy and without defect, why are we sinners, that need to be saved ? King James Bible EPHESIANS 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, (ACCORDING TO THE GOOD PLEASURE OF HIS WILL,) ⬅️ Why would God need to adopt someone he predestined to be his child ? Now the question, WHAT IS GODS WILL?⬅️ Well let's see! Berean Literal Bible JOHN 6:40⬅️ (FOR THIS IS THE WILL OF MY FATHER,) that everyone beholding the Son and believing in Him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up in the last day." Wow, 🤗 the fathers will is that whoever believes will be saved, (According to the good pleasure of his will.) APART FROM GOD'S WILL, WHICH IS TO BELIEVE IN JESUS HIS SON THERE IS NO ELECTION TO SALVATION Yes, God knows who will accept his free gift of eternal life , yes he knows all things ahead of time . HERE'S ANOTHER VERSE: King James Bible JOHN 1:12 But as many as RECEIVED him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: IT CLEARLY SAYS AS MANY AS RECEIVED HIM, AND BELIEVED ON HIS NAME.HE GAVE POWER TO BECOME SONS. BEREAN LITERAL BIBLE ROMAN'S 11:32 For God has bound (IMPRISONED) up all in disobedience, that He may show mercy to all. Berean Literal Bible JOHN 3:19 And this is the (JUDGEMENT,) that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light; for their deeds were evil. The JUDGEMENT IS THAT THEY REJECTED CHRIST, NOT THAT THEY WEREN'T ELECTED BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN. YES, BOTH DOCTRINES WHOSOEVER WILL, AND ELECTION ARE TRUE, BUT IF ONE IS INTERPRETED WRONG, IT CONTAMINATES THE WHOLE MESSAGE . Election , makes the power of the gospel Vain, IF NOT PRESENTED RIGHT. God did not create anyone for hell, they fitted themselves for destruction by rejecting Jesus. If election was true, God would always have know the ones he chose, but clearly There is people he didn't know, that now he Knows. For instance. English Standard Version EPHESIANS 2:12 REMEMBER THAT YOU WERE AT THAT TIME SEPARATED FROM CHRIST, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. IF WE WERE CHOSEN IN HIM BEFORE THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE WORLD HOW DID WE GET OUT OF HIM, SEPARATED FROM HIM. Berean Literal Bible EPHESIANS 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus you, the ones once being far off, have become near by the blood of Christ. THESE WERE FAR OFF, HOW IF THEY WERE ELECTED? English Standard Version GALATIANS 4:9 But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how can you turn back again to the weak and worthless elementary principles of the world, whose slaves you want to be once more? GOD DIDN'T KNOW THESE BUT NOW HE DOES. SURELY GOD HAS ALWAYS KNOWN HIS OWN. Why would Paul give warnings, Telling people to make sure they were in the faith, if they were predestined. HE GAVE WARNINGS, SO THAT WE WOULD NOT TRUST IN ANYTHING BUT THE FINNISHED WORK OF CHRIST. WE ARE SAVE BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH, ELECTED TO SALVATION IS ANOTHER GOSPEL. YES GOD HAS ALWAYS CHOSEN (ELECTED) PEOPLE FOR SERVICE . God predestined people who believe him to go to heaven, and people who don't believe him to go to hell. Simple, Whoever believed Whoever believes Whoever will come to believe are God's elect, chosen. Berean Literal Bible ROMAN'S 9:8 That is, the children of the flesh, these are not children of God; but the children of the promise are regarded as offspring. King James Bible 2nd thesolonians 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks always to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, (BECAUSE GOD HATH FROM THE BEGINNING CHOSEN YOU TO SALVATION THROUGH SANCTIFICATION OF THE SPIRIT AND BELIEF OF THE TRUTH:) Wow, through BELEIF of the TRUTH, not election. There is only one way to be saved. The gospel is the power of God that leads To salvation. IF SOMEONE WAS SAVED,and SEALED BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN, THAT IS NOT CHRISTIANITY, NOT THE GOSPEL. God predestined his elect to be lost so that he can find them.well then now we know who started the hide and go seek game 🎮 😄. The Calvinist If you are not elect, the gospel has no power to save you, ACCORDING TO CALVINIST. Election makes the gospel powerless for Everyone except the elect. A gospel that makes the gospel powerless is no gospel at all. IF HE CHOSE US IN HIM, HE DIDN'T CHOOSE THOSE THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF HIM English Standard Version Acts 17:31 because he has fixed a day on which he will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed; and of this (HE HAS GIVEN ASSURANCE TO ALL)by raising him from the dead.” NOW WHY WOULD HE GIVE ASSURANCE TO NON ELECT. SO THAT THEY CAN BE SURE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HELL, 🤔, NO, TIME TO RETHINK ELECTION. Berean Literal Bible ROMAN'S 5:2 through whom also (WE HAVE ACCESS) by faith into this grace in which we stand; and we boast in the hope of the glory of God. ACCESS BY FAITH, NOT ELECTION. Berean Literal Bible JOHN 5:40 and you are not willing to come to Me, that you may have life. JESUS INVITES ALL, BUT MANY REFUSE TO COME. Berean Literal Bible EPHESIANS 1:13 in whom you also, having heard the word of truth, the gospel your of salvation, in whom also having believed you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, New International Version 1ST CORINTHIANS 1:21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. WOW, PLEASED THROUGH THE FOOLISHNESS OF WHAT WAS PREACHED, TO SAVE THOSE WHO BELIEVED, NOT THOSE ELECTED. At the end of the day, it's about those that believe in Jesus, the death burial and resurrection, according to the scriptures. But we must not be a stumbling block to those that want to come to Christ, and I believe that CALVINISM is a false Christianity. Titus 2:11, "FOR THE GRACE OF GOD APPEARED BRINGING SALVATION TO ALL PEOPLE." TO ALL MEN, NOT ONLY THE ELECT. King James Bible1st Peter 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded. Berean Standard Bible ROMANS 8:29 For those God foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brothers. ? Who didn't God FOREKNOW ????????? GOD DID NOT PRESET THE HUMAN WILL, HE DID NOT DETERMINE OUR SALVATION LONG AGO. IF MAN WAS ELECTED TO SALVATION BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, THEN HE WAS BORN WITH THE GIFT OF ETERNAL LIFE AND THEREFORE HAD NO NEED TO RECEIVE IT AGAIN. HE PREDESTINED US THAT BELIEVE TO BE ADOPTED SONS. Example, He chose us in him, Who is him? Christ is him. Ok he chose us in Christ! Who is in Christ? Christians ✝️ What did he choose us for,? To be holy, and blameless, and adopted. According to his will. So there was some already in him and some that needed to get in him Did Jesus predestined Peter to deny him 3 times? Or did he just know. 🤔 GOD. WHY SHOULD I LET YOU INTO MY KINGDOM? ME. BECAUSE I BELIEVED IN YOUR BELOVED SON, THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, THE ONE WHO DIED WAS BURRIAL, AND ROSE FROM THE DEAD ON THE 3RD DAY. GOD. YEAH BUT, YOU WERE NOT ELECTED. (Predestined). SORRY, TIME TO RETHINK. CAN A MAN BE FORCED TO PERSEVERE, AND THAT BE CALLED GRACE. God IS NOT A RESPECTOR OF PERSONS, SO WHAT METHOD DID HE USE TO DETERMINE WHO GETS ELECTED. IF GOD ONLY PREDESTINE A FEW, HE DID NOT LOVE THE WORLD. HERE IS YOUR FOREKNOWLEDGE. Berean Standard Bible psalm 139:16 Your eyes saw my unformed body; all my days were written in Your book and ordained for me before one of them came to be.
@ntrelis
Жыл бұрын
Love is endless and God can do impossible things. God does everything to save us. We also do believe that Jesus is God who saved us, and this is great work that we do.
@thetygerpulpitwithpastorglenn
Жыл бұрын
This is one of the best treatments of the subject I have ever heard. Not only is your use of the text accurate, but your explanations are spot on! Great work, brother Corey! The way you demonstrated that God violates human "free will" was undeniable - very impressive!
@caryt59
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There was a time that I had a very skeptical, and dismissive attitude towards the doctrine of election and those who taught it! But I did leave a little open room along with sincere prayer for correction, if I was wrong! After, about 10 years, and careful study and instruction, I've come to believe that election, predestination, and the sovereignty of GOD go hand-in-hand as sound theological doctrine! The only thing that was holding e back was my pride in not being corrected and the fact that I wanted "salvation" to be what I wanted it to be, rather than what the scriptures revealed! BTW - John Calvin was the first to come up with this doctrine!
@DarkKnight-fx1ei
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Topic for discussion idea: Annihilation Theory. Some believers hold to the idea that God will not punish for eternity but will just remove a person from existence. Please make a video on this Bro. Corey I really like how you break down The Scriptures. Maybe this viewpoint is so obviously erroneously wrong maybe it just warrants a KZitem short. 😉
@jadegiant
Жыл бұрын
If you're wondering, Corey is talking about @Caldwell Apologetics and his video clearing up the John MacAthur comments on "slave". Caldwell did a very nice video on it earlier.
@walker_estes
Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing it was Leighton Flowers (?) you were referring to earlier in the video (18:10). It was recently determined that he affirms Open Theists as brothers and that they and their theology should be welcome in the Southern Baptist Convention, despite the decision by the ETS and the fact that the language of the Baptist Faith & Message precludes it. I would love for you to do a video on Open Theism and Flowers' strange relationship with it.
@anthonym.7653
Жыл бұрын
Word studies are great...as long as context is not sacrificed.
@christiantompkins6423
Жыл бұрын
Cory, it would help if you move through the points of Calvinism, expound on them and explain what you agree with and what you disagree with and why.
@Chesterchurch
Жыл бұрын
He did that
@christiantompkins6423
Жыл бұрын
@@Chesterchurch of course the one time I haven’t watched the whole thing.
@jesusgeek7680
Жыл бұрын
I love how the comments tell us we have to believe either or and that automatically makes us a man made title LOL they still don't get it. Good video bro. I agree with a lot of Calvinist views but not all. I personally don't get caught up in labels. I do my own research. I believe we have free will and that is biblical but he also has chosen you. My whole life i knew he was. calling me to church but i ran. Now look. So you did such an amazing job on this !
@reynaldoperez7285
28 күн бұрын
(Ephesians 1:4). ("HE CHOSE US IN HIM) before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and without defect before him" HE CHOSE US IN CHRIST, NOT US IN ADAM, NOT US IN MOSES, NOT US IN PAUL, ONLY US THAT ARE IN CHRIST. IF he chose us in Christ before the foundation of the world to be holy and without defect, why are we sinners, that need to be saved ? King James Bible EPHESIANS 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, (ACCORDING TO THE GOOD PLEASURE OF HIS WILL,) ⬅️ Why would God need to adopt someone he predestined to be his child ? Now the question, WHAT IS GODS WILL?⬅️ Well let's see! Berean Literal Bible JOHN 6:40⬅️ (FOR THIS IS THE WILL OF MY FATHER,) that everyone beholding the Son and believing in Him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up in the last day." Wow, 🤗 the fathers will is that whoever believes will be saved, (According to the good pleasure of his will.) APART FROM GOD'S WILL, WHICH IS TO BELIEVE IN JESUS HIS SON THERE IS NO ELECTION TO SALVATION Yes, God knows who will accept his free gift of eternal life , yes he knows all things ahead of time . HERE'S ANOTHER VERSE: King James Bible JOHN 1:12 But as many as RECEIVED him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: IT CLEARLY SAYS AS MANY AS RECEIVED HIM, AND BELIEVED ON HIS NAME.HE GAVE POWER TO BECOME SONS. BEREAN LITERAL BIBLE ROMAN'S 11:32 For God has bound (IMPRISONED) up all in disobedience, that He may show mercy to all. Berean Literal Bible JOHN 3:19 And this is the (JUDGEMENT,) that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light; for their deeds were evil. The JUDGEMENT IS THAT THEY REJECTED CHRIST, NOT THAT THEY WEREN'T ELECTED BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN. YES, BOTH DOCTRINES WHOSOEVER WILL, AND ELECTION ARE TRUE, BUT IF ONE IS INTERPRETED WRONG, IT CONTAMINATES THE WHOLE MESSAGE . Election , makes the power of the gospel Vain, IF NOT PRESENTED RIGHT. God did not create anyone for hell, they fitted themselves for destruction by rejecting Jesus. If election was true, God would always have know the ones he chose, but clearly There is people he didn't know, that now he Knows. For instance. English Standard Version EPHESIANS 2:12 REMEMBER THAT YOU WERE AT THAT TIME SEPARATED FROM CHRIST, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. IF WE WERE CHOSEN IN HIM BEFORE THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE WORLD HOW DID WE GET OUT OF HIM, SEPARATED FROM HIM. Berean Literal Bible EPHESIANS 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus you, the ones once being far off, have become near by the blood of Christ. THESE WERE FAR OFF, HOW IF THEY WERE ELECTED? English Standard Version GALATIANS 4:9 But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how can you turn back again to the weak and worthless elementary principles of the world, whose slaves you want to be once more? GOD DIDN'T KNOW THESE BUT NOW HE DOES. SURELY GOD HAS ALWAYS KNOWN HIS OWN. Why would Paul give warnings, Telling people to make sure they were in the faith, if they were predestined. HE GAVE WARNINGS, SO THAT WE WOULD NOT TRUST IN ANYTHING BUT THE FINNISHED WORK OF CHRIST. WE ARE SAVE BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH, ELECTED TO SALVATION IS ANOTHER GOSPEL. YES GOD HAS ALWAYS CHOSEN (ELECTED) PEOPLE FOR SERVICE . God predestined people who believe him to go to heaven, and people who don't believe him to go to hell. Simple, Whoever believed Whoever believes Whoever will come to believe are God's elect, chosen. Berean Literal Bible ROMAN'S 9:8 That is, the children of the flesh, these are not children of God; but the children of the promise are regarded as offspring. King James Bible 2nd thesolonians 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks always to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, (BECAUSE GOD HATH FROM THE BEGINNING CHOSEN YOU TO SALVATION THROUGH SANCTIFICATION OF THE SPIRIT AND BELIEF OF THE TRUTH:) Wow, through BELEIF of the TRUTH, not election. There is only one way to be saved. The gospel is the power of God that leads To salvation. IF SOMEONE WAS SAVED,and SEALED BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN, THAT IS NOT CHRISTIANITY, NOT THE GOSPEL. God predestined his elect to be lost so that he can find them.well then now we know who started the hide and go seek game 🎮 😄. The Calvinist If you are not elect, the gospel has no power to save you, ACCORDING TO CALVINIST. Election makes the gospel powerless for Everyone except the elect. A gospel that makes the gospel powerless is no gospel at all. IF HE CHOSE US IN HIM, HE DIDN'T CHOOSE THOSE THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF HIM English Standard Version Acts 17:31 because he has fixed a day on which he will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed; and of this (HE HAS GIVEN ASSURANCE TO ALL)by raising him from the dead.” NOW WHY WOULD HE GIVE ASSURANCE TO NON ELECT. SO THAT THEY CAN BE SURE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HELL, 🤔, NO, TIME TO RETHINK ELECTION. Berean Literal Bible ROMAN'S 5:2 through whom also (WE HAVE ACCESS) by faith into this grace in which we stand; and we boast in the hope of the glory of God. ACCESS BY FAITH, NOT ELECTION. Berean Literal Bible JOHN 5:40 and you are not willing to come to Me, that you may have life. JESUS INVITES ALL, BUT MANY REFUSE TO COME. Berean Literal Bible EPHESIANS 1:13 in whom you also, having heard the word of truth, the gospel your of salvation, in whom also having believed you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, New International Version 1ST CORINTHIANS 1:21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. WOW, PLEASED THROUGH THE FOOLISHNESS OF WHAT WAS PREACHED, TO SAVE THOSE WHO BELIEVED, NOT THOSE ELECTED. At the end of the day, it's about those that believe in Jesus, the death burial and resurrection, according to the scriptures. But we must not be a stumbling block to those that want to come to Christ, and I believe that CALVINISM is a false Christianity. Titus 2:11, "FOR THE GRACE OF GOD APPEARED BRINGING SALVATION TO ALL PEOPLE." TO ALL MEN, NOT ONLY THE ELECT. King James Bible1st Peter 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded. Berean Standard Bible ROMANS 8:29 For those God foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brothers. ? Who didn't God FOREKNOW ????????? GOD DID NOT PRESET THE HUMAN WILL, HE DID NOT DETERMINE OUR SALVATION LONG AGO. IF MAN WAS ELECTED TO SALVATION BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, THEN HE WAS BORN WITH THE GIFT OF ETERNAL LIFE AND THEREFORE HAD NO NEED TO RECEIVE IT AGAIN. HE PREDESTINED US THAT BELIEVE TO BE ADOPTED SONS. Example, He chose us in him, Who is him? Christ is him. Ok he chose us in Christ! Who is in Christ? Christians ✝️ What did he choose us for,? To be holy, and blameless, and adopted. According to his will. So there was some already in him and some that needed to get in him Did Jesus predestined Peter to deny him 3 times? Or did he just know. 🤔 GOD. WHY SHOULD I LET YOU INTO MY KINGDOM? ME. BECAUSE I BELIEVED IN YOUR BELOVED SON, THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, THE ONE WHO DIED WAS BURRIAL, AND ROSE FROM THE DEAD ON THE 3RD DAY. GOD. YEAH BUT, YOU WERE NOT ELECTED. (Predestined). SORRY, TIME TO RETHINK. CAN A MAN BE FORCED TO PERSEVERE, AND THAT BE CALLED GRACE. God IS NOT A RESPECTOR OF PERSONS, SO WHAT METHOD DID HE USE TO DETERMINE WHO GETS ELECTED. IF GOD ONLY PREDESTINE A FEW, HE DID NOT LOVE THE WORLD. HERE IS YOUR FOREKNOWLEDGE. Berean Standard Bible psalm 139:16 Your eyes saw my unformed body; all my days were written in Your book and ordained for me before one of them came to be.
@darenbilliot1003
Жыл бұрын
Hebrew4Christians Likewise the idea of reward is meaningless if God simply decreed who was to be saintly and who was not.
@Miketee68
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again love your videos and teaching, i had to go back and watch since i missed part of this; I wondered if you agree with the statement I found below. I see you don't. I think some of the differences are related to grammar and which scriptures we emphasize. Another question , I love your patience in your videos when you have to answer the same question multiple times;, how does predestination play into the 70 weeks and God pausing the prophetic clock at 69 weeks? I believe sin and repentance have to be considered in discussion of free will. When you look at the verse in Romans 8, it says God foreknew. This means God knew in advance those who would choose to follow him and those who would choose not to follow him. The ones he knew in advance are the ones he predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son. In other words, God’s predestining is based on his foreknowledge, not his random selection. This understanding allows God to remain just and still hold people accountable for their choices.
@walker_estes
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Bro, please do a video with Kevin Thompson of “Beyond the Fundamentals” regarding this topic and help him with his Greek. You may not know why I’m saying that, but the Greek will come up in such a discussion and he will try to flex on you, and I’d just personally like for him to get checked for once.
@clauderandolph2509
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Bro Corey I think if you give a talk on the sovereignty of God, it would be helpful to understand predestination!!!
@luv-ow9jv
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That is not true because him being sovereign does not mean He had to create some of the human race to salvation. It definitely would confuse a lot of people especially new converts.
@kenneth2455
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Amen
@lbamusic
Жыл бұрын
The clearest instance of God violating our free will, is when He created us without our free will, approval or assent. Also, He has already appointed the day and time for each of us to die. So, why does He need to obtain the free will of those He planned to save, before the world began??? The same Godly omnipotence that created us to life and appointed our deaths, is what saves us according to His will, not ours.
@eileenkhan2688
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Brother Corey, please tell me the app you are using for your interlinear Bible. I use the Blue Letter Bible. I would like to get accustomed to the app you are using. You are one of my many teachers who guides me toward biblically sound doctrine. Praising God.
@smartchristians
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Accordance Bible Software
@parlifloralyngdoh6521
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May God bless you brother.....please..Help me understand john 6:64.thank you
@patrycjafrompoland
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The doctrine of predestination is to me one of the most shocking, horrifying, depressing that i could think of. It literally breaks my heart to think of the utter horror, despair and depression that would be felt by a person rejected forever by God. It literally changes the good news in the bad news.. for those not chosen. It couldnt anymore be a good news.. it would be a news of hopelessness like there was never before for those that would not be chosen. And how could the gospel be shared.. like.. if you are not one of the chosen then there is no hope for you in this life or the next.. nothing you can do to change it, no one and nothing can help you. Now what comes to my mind is the world war II. And Hitler. His chosen race and the doomed race that was meant for destruction. Their pain, suffering. And the society that mostly accepted it.. happy that they are safe, chosen.. who cares about all the others? Thats just their fate. How is this hier different? And during these times, they were some that knew that was wrong, those that protected the hopeless and helpless, and even lost their lives for them. They were not just happy to be safe themselves but wanted others to also be. But in this case, there isnt a way for that. The pain of the person rejected by God should be much bigger than of any human ever inflicted on anyone. The despair even greater than was ever felt in the worst of situations. All i want to say is that the idea literally breaks my heart. Its just painful to imagine it could be true.
@OragansDAristilde_TheChristian
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😨Yes it's scary yet, it's true. Holy Spirit gives us Joy even knowing this yet, we just need to realize we are worthless and undeserving of Jesus and paradise and deserving of fire! 😰 I'm really scared for the lost and I'm concerned for all the bad things people go through although there's nothing I can do for it God knows who will repent the lost chose not to repent unfortunately 🙁
@danmarley2886
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Every Christian should believe we have been predestined, but the question as to its nature and purpose has been misunderstood. Most of us understand English, and have no problem with what predestination means. Salvation as a matter of predestination, where forgiveness of sins is concerned, is not found in scripture. Romans 8:29 concerns being predestined to be conformed into the image of God's son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Christ is the firstborn or first begotten from the dead. To be clear, this speaks of the resurrection of Christ and by implication we may infer the resurrection of the sons of God, meaning the church. Moreover, predestination is referenced in Eph 1:5 in the context of adoption. Here again there is no mention of salvation, as when we first believe on Christ. This context specifically addresses adoption, which in itself is largely misunderstood. However, we are told that adoption is the redemption of our bodies Rom 8:23, which also is the resurrection. So, this argument concerning predestination is based upon error being reinforced by error, which only serves to satisfy the beliefs of those holding a false doctrine. You can't tell someone something if they think they already know concerning a matter. Only Christians are predestined. This predestination is to be conformed to the image of Jesus Christ, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren Rom 8:29.
@reynaldoperez7285
28 күн бұрын
(Ephesians 1:4). ("HE CHOSE US IN HIM) before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and without defect before him" HE CHOSE US IN CHRIST, NOT US IN ADAM, NOT US IN MOSES, NOT US IN PAUL, ONLY US THAT ARE IN CHRIST. IF he chose us in Christ before the foundation of the world to be holy and without defect, why are we sinners, that need to be saved ? King James Bible EPHESIANS 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, (ACCORDING TO THE GOOD PLEASURE OF HIS WILL,) ⬅️ Why would God need to adopt someone he predestined to be his child ? Now the question, WHAT IS GODS WILL?⬅️ Well let's see! Berean Literal Bible JOHN 6:40⬅️ (FOR THIS IS THE WILL OF MY FATHER,) that everyone beholding the Son and believing in Him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up in the last day." Wow, 🤗 the fathers will is that whoever believes will be saved, (According to the good pleasure of his will.) APART FROM GOD'S WILL, WHICH IS TO BELIEVE IN JESUS HIS SON THERE IS NO ELECTION TO SALVATION Yes, God knows who will accept his free gift of eternal life , yes he knows all things ahead of time . HERE'S ANOTHER VERSE: King James Bible JOHN 1:12 But as many as RECEIVED him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: IT CLEARLY SAYS AS MANY AS RECEIVED HIM, AND BELIEVED ON HIS NAME.HE GAVE POWER TO BECOME SONS. BEREAN LITERAL BIBLE ROMAN'S 11:32 For God has bound (IMPRISONED) up all in disobedience, that He may show mercy to all. Berean Literal Bible JOHN 3:19 And this is the (JUDGEMENT,) that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light; for their deeds were evil. The JUDGEMENT IS THAT THEY REJECTED CHRIST, NOT THAT THEY WEREN'T ELECTED BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN. YES, BOTH DOCTRINES WHOSOEVER WILL, AND ELECTION ARE TRUE, BUT IF ONE IS INTERPRETED WRONG, IT CONTAMINATES THE WHOLE MESSAGE . Election , makes the power of the gospel Vain, IF NOT PRESENTED RIGHT. God did not create anyone for hell, they fitted themselves for destruction by rejecting Jesus. If election was true, God would always have know the ones he chose, but clearly There is people he didn't know, that now he Knows. For instance. English Standard Version EPHESIANS 2:12 REMEMBER THAT YOU WERE AT THAT TIME SEPARATED FROM CHRIST, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. IF WE WERE CHOSEN IN HIM BEFORE THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE WORLD HOW DID WE GET OUT OF HIM, SEPARATED FROM HIM. Berean Literal Bible EPHESIANS 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus you, the ones once being far off, have become near by the blood of Christ. THESE WERE FAR OFF, HOW IF THEY WERE ELECTED? English Standard Version GALATIANS 4:9 But now that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how can you turn back again to the weak and worthless elementary principles of the world, whose slaves you want to be once more? GOD DIDN'T KNOW THESE BUT NOW HE DOES. SURELY GOD HAS ALWAYS KNOWN HIS OWN. Why would Paul give warnings, Telling people to make sure they were in the faith, if they were predestined. HE GAVE WARNINGS, SO THAT WE WOULD NOT TRUST IN ANYTHING BUT THE FINNISHED WORK OF CHRIST. WE ARE SAVE BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH, ELECTED TO SALVATION IS ANOTHER GOSPEL. YES GOD HAS ALWAYS CHOSEN (ELECTED) PEOPLE FOR SERVICE . God predestined people who believe him to go to heaven, and people who don't believe him to go to hell. Simple, Whoever believed Whoever believes Whoever will come to believe are God's elect, chosen. Berean Literal Bible ROMAN'S 9:8 That is, the children of the flesh, these are not children of God; but the children of the promise are regarded as offspring. King James Bible 2nd thesolonians 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks always to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, (BECAUSE GOD HATH FROM THE BEGINNING CHOSEN YOU TO SALVATION THROUGH SANCTIFICATION OF THE SPIRIT AND BELIEF OF THE TRUTH:) Wow, through BELEIF of the TRUTH, not election. There is only one way to be saved. The gospel is the power of God that leads To salvation. IF SOMEONE WAS SAVED,and SEALED BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN, THAT IS NOT CHRISTIANITY, NOT THE GOSPEL. God predestined his elect to be lost so that he can find them.well then now we know who started the hide and go seek game 🎮 😄. The Calvinist If you are not elect, the gospel has no power to save you, ACCORDING TO CALVINIST. Election makes the gospel powerless for Everyone except the elect. A gospel that makes the gospel powerless is no gospel at all. IF HE CHOSE US IN HIM, HE DIDN'T CHOOSE THOSE THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF HIM English Standard Version Acts 17:31 because he has fixed a day on which he will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed; and of this (HE HAS GIVEN ASSURANCE TO ALL)by raising him from the dead.” NOW WHY WOULD HE GIVE ASSURANCE TO NON ELECT. SO THAT THEY CAN BE SURE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HELL, 🤔, NO, TIME TO RETHINK ELECTION. Berean Literal Bible ROMAN'S 5:2 through whom also (WE HAVE ACCESS) by faith into this grace in which we stand; and we boast in the hope of the glory of God. ACCESS BY FAITH, NOT ELECTION. Berean Literal Bible JOHN 5:40 and you are not willing to come to Me, that you may have life. JESUS INVITES ALL, BUT MANY REFUSE TO COME. Berean Literal Bible EPHESIANS 1:13 in whom you also, having heard the word of truth, the gospel your of salvation, in whom also having believed you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, New International Version 1ST CORINTHIANS 1:21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. WOW, PLEASED THROUGH THE FOOLISHNESS OF WHAT WAS PREACHED, TO SAVE THOSE WHO BELIEVED, NOT THOSE ELECTED. At the end of the day, it's about those that believe in Jesus, the death burial and resurrection, according to the scriptures. But we must not be a stumbling block to those that want to come to Christ, and I believe that CALVINISM is a false Christianity. Titus 2:11, "FOR THE GRACE OF GOD APPEARED BRINGING SALVATION TO ALL PEOPLE." TO ALL MEN, NOT ONLY THE ELECT. King James Bible1st Peter 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded. Berean Standard Bible ROMANS 8:29 For those God foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brothers. ? Who didn't God FOREKNOW ????????? GOD DID NOT PRESET THE HUMAN WILL, HE DID NOT DETERMINE OUR SALVATION LONG AGO. IF MAN WAS ELECTED TO SALVATION BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, THEN HE WAS BORN WITH THE GIFT OF ETERNAL LIFE AND THEREFORE HAD NO NEED TO RECEIVE IT AGAIN. HE PREDESTINED US THAT BELIEVE TO BE ADOPTED SONS. Example, He chose us in him, Who is him? Christ is him. Ok he chose us in Christ! Who is in Christ? Christians ✝️ What did he choose us for,? To be holy, and blameless, and adopted. According to his will. So there was some already in him and some that needed to get in him Did Jesus predestined Peter to deny him 3 times? Or did he just know. 🤔 GOD. WHY SHOULD I LET YOU INTO MY KINGDOM? ME. BECAUSE I BELIEVED IN YOUR BELOVED SON, THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, THE ONE WHO DIED WAS BURRIAL, AND ROSE FROM THE DEAD ON THE 3RD DAY. GOD. YEAH BUT, YOU WERE NOT ELECTED. (Predestined). SORRY, TIME TO RETHINK. CAN A MAN BE FORCED TO PERSEVERE, AND THAT BE CALLED GRACE. God IS NOT A RESPECTOR OF PERSONS, SO WHAT METHOD DID HE USE TO DETERMINE WHO GETS ELECTED. IF GOD ONLY PREDESTINE A FEW, HE DID NOT LOVE THE WORLD. HERE IS YOUR FOREKNOWLEDGE. Berean Standard Bible psalm 139:16 Your eyes saw my unformed body; all my days were written in Your book and ordained for me before one of them came to be.
@TheBloodGospel
Жыл бұрын
1:16:45 so true brother
@j.lebanon586
Жыл бұрын
Is the Gospel powerful enough to change a heart and give someone that ability to choose God or not?
@darenbilliot1003
Жыл бұрын
Tom Harkins Says: August 17, 2016 at 4:49 pm I like this. People have to have the capacity to say “no” if there is to be free choice, so there must be some “leeway” between “what you will find if you look,” and “being forced to look whether you want to or not.” “You will seek me and find me when you look for me with all your heart.” Bible gateway blogger
@darenbilliot1003
Жыл бұрын
But be encouraged, chaverim. We are promised great help as we obey the message of Yeshua and walk by faith in God's unfailing love.... Those who are in relationship with the LORD through Yeshua are given the Holy Spirit
@ricksonora6656
Жыл бұрын
Sorry, my Hebrew is weak. Maybe in an English language forum, you could communicate better in English. That way, you won’t come across as ostentatious, too.
@ronkelley1490
Жыл бұрын
A word of advise my brother and please know I mean no disrespect toward you personally. I'm almost certain Hebrew is not your first language based off your European surname and you likely know that Hebrew is not the first language of most of the people watching this. It's wiser to use English terms on an English forum, as previously mentioned so it's understood. You're coming off as trying to be super-spiritual and Paul mentioned this very thing when discussing tongues and languages understood for the edification of the body. Using words that most won't understand only genders confusion and disrupts whatever encouragement you're trying to give.
@rightlydividingtheword
Жыл бұрын
I just want clarity: based on what you said only, if gentiles are only under Abrahamic covenant; do gentiles need Jesus to be SAVED????
@darenbilliot1003
Жыл бұрын
John Parson The Just Shall Live by Faith Hebrew4Christians
@aidanmcmanus2752
Жыл бұрын
1 Cor 11:25 "In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, *“This cup is the new covenant in My blood.* This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.” The last time I checked, the church at Corinth wasn't a Jewish church but had Gentiles in it. Note that Christ died for THEM (v.24). And that this cup is the NEW covenant in His blood (v.25). The Corinthians were sharing with all other children of God in the benefits of Christ's death.
@micheleriley4514
7 ай бұрын
Proverbs 16:4 the LORD hath made all things for HIMSELF,yea, even the wicked for the day of evil. Proverbs 15:3 the eyes of the LORD are in every place beholding the evil and the good. Ephesians 1:4 according as HE hath chosen us in HIM (we did not choose HIM) before the foundation of the world, that we should be HOLY and without blame before HIM in love. 1 Peter 1:20 who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last days for you. Matthew 22:14 many are called few are chosen. JESUS mentions the elect in Matthew 24:22 and 31. James 1:22 be ye doers of the word not only hearers. If anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in the mirror. Do you respond to comments?
@romeotrinh6415
Жыл бұрын
Jesus don’t just accidentally chosen Judas the same with us all but some of us will not keep believing until the end to get save
@darenbilliot1003
Жыл бұрын
Work out (κατεργάζεσθε) your own salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you (θεὸς γάρ ἐστιν ὁ ἐνεργῶν ἐν ὑμῖν), both to will and to work for his good pleasure" (Phil. 2:12-13).
@ricksonora6656
Жыл бұрын
Is there a difference between work out and work for?
@kgar5String
Жыл бұрын
In Philippians 2:12-13, Paul writes, “Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed - not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence - continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his purpose.” This text is often misused to instill fear into people, warning them that it means that they can lose salvation. What does it mean to work out our salvation with fear and trembling? Paul can hardly be encouraging believers to live in a continuous condition of nervousness and anxiety. That would contradict his many other exhortations to peace of mind, courage, and confidence in the God who authors our salvation. The Greek word translated "fear" in this context can equally mean "reverence" or "respect." Paul uses the same phrase in (2 Corinthians 7:15) where he refers to Titus as being encouraged by the Corinthians’ reception of him “with fear and trembling,” that is, with great humility and respect for his position as a minister of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Paul himself came to the Corinthian church in “weakness and fear, and with much trembling” (1 Corinthians 2:3), mindful of the great and awesome nature of the work in which he was engaged. The sense in which we are to work out our salvation in fear and trembling is twofold. First, the Greek verb rendered “work out” means "to continually work to bring something to completion or fruition." We do this by actively pursuing obedience in the process of sanctification, which Paul explains further in the next chapter of Philippians. He describes himself as “straining” and “pressing on” toward the goal of Christlikeness (Philippians 3:13-14). The “trembling” he experiences is the attitude Christians are to have in pursuing this goal-a healthy fear of offending God through disobedience and an awe and respect for His majesty and holiness. "Trembling" can also refer to a shaking due to weakness, but this is a weakness of higher purpose, one which brings us to a state of dependency on God. Obedience and submission to the God we revere and respect is our “reasonable service” (Romans 12:1-2) and brings great joy. Psalm 2:11 sums it up perfectly: “Serve the LORD with fear and rejoice with trembling.” We work out our salvation by going to the very source of our salvation-the Word of God-wherein we renew our hearts and minds (Romans 12:1-2), coming into His presence with a spirit of reverence and awe.
@darenbilliot1003
Жыл бұрын
Gotquestions Do human beings truly have a free will? If “free will” means that God gives humans the opportunity to make choices that genuinely affect their destiny, then yes, human beings do have a free will.
@kgar5String
Жыл бұрын
But the will not choose God with their will according to the scriptures.
@sognani
11 ай бұрын
They don’t need “free will” they need to go study up on John 8:34
@twhite3850
Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to not seek after, but still ultimately choose someone? Let's say Jane is a wonderful virtuous woman, and Sally is beautiful but has a lot of flaws. I seek after Sally, trying to get to know her. However, Jane, the one I didn't seek after, introduces herself to me and I ultimately choose to marry her. I did not seek after Jane, but I did ultimately choose her.
@OragansDAristilde_TheChristian
Жыл бұрын
Amen! Does God know the future? Because He predicted Judas would betray Jesus as shown in the Old Testament and God doesn't force anyone to sin.
@69Applekrate
Жыл бұрын
Do not watch and drive but, LISTEN and drive, etc my .02
@craig-sc1hq
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@smartchristians
Жыл бұрын
And thank you brother. That means a lot
@rcboyd9
Жыл бұрын
in 1 John 4, John tells us that God is love. I’m not convinced of predestination because I’m not convinced that it matches his character. Does God love those who are created in a position where they can never come to him? Just doesn’t seem like the God I read about in the Bible.
@BEABEREAN10
Жыл бұрын
People always quote pslam 53 as to say it is a definitive and literal statement that no one seeks God. Yet the very person writing the Psalm was seeking after God. With that, you presupposed this means it is God who enables man to seek him, yet this is not found anywhere in scripture. Not to mention, this opposing verse of 2 chron 16:9 says that God is searching for those who's hearts are right to show himself strong in their behalf. Now while he may not find any at that time, that doesn't mean he never finds anyone. In fact James states that as we draw close to God, God draws close to us. Is James lying or is scripture wrong here? Then we see verses like Rom 1:16, Rom 10:17, HEB 1-4 that show it is the Word of God that brings faith to people. It is not some sovereign and unknown choice of God to whom He gives faith. We all have to choose what to believe... Either that the Word of God is powerful and enough to bring faith like the Bible says it is, or that it's not enough and God has to change us before we hear the Word of God in order to have the power effect us. So which is it to you?
@twhite3850
Жыл бұрын
If only predetermined people can go to Heaven, then what is the purpose of winning souls and warning people not to sin? It seems as though a person who is not predestined would be incapable to stop sinning so why even warn them?
@donhaddix3770
8 ай бұрын
predestination is God planning based on freewill. neither contradictory or denying God's sovereignty.
@SEVEN-7-
Жыл бұрын
One key question left out is……when was Jesus Christ chosen to be crucified? My view Jesus always has been chosen to be crucified even before the creation of heaven and earth. That means even before Lucifer/ Satan fell from Heaven, creation of mankind, all creation and even before sin entered the world. Point is that God does not chose us or we chose God……just simply put Jesus Christ is chosen and it is the Faithful chosen in Jesus Christ, it is about being Positioned IN Jesus Christ as well as being Predestined to Jesus Christ by our Faith in Him, Jesus Christ is the True Faithful servant. The whole purpose of Jesus being the Son of God is to be Crucified in eternity before the creation of time, space and matter. Jesus the son of God was "decreed" to be crucified within the Godhead before anything was ever created. “just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,” Ephesians 1:4-5 NKJV A person can see God has an adoption plan before creation to be predestined to Jesus Christ, Jesus shares his status of sonship to the Faithful in the form of Adoption. This explains the sons of God in both Old Testament and New Testament, sons is a status and an identity in the Son of God The reason why sons of God in Old Testament is because of the Patriarchs and the animal sacrifices. The Jews had animal sacrifices and a Levitcal priesthood. God is in a covenantal relationship with man with shed blood and a sacrifice, this is the Old Covenant that is looking forward to the New Covenant in Christ’s blood, so Jesus can bring all the Faithful to Him both before the Cross and after the Cross to be Holy and blameless. One thing these guys always leave out about predestination whether a person is going to heaven or to hell is the "JUDGEMENT." The Judgement is reserved to God on a person's eternal destination. The Judgment is to come in the future, whether a person is placed at the Judgement seat of Christ or the Great white Throne Judgement, this is when the eternal destination is determined, God HAS NOT determined or announced the eternal destination of who is entering into the Kingdom yet. Another point there will be a New Heaven and a New Earth as well as New Holy City of Jerusalem. There is so mucht that only God can answer and holds the answer. Hell now is in the grave in an intermediat state. Hell is not opened up yet, that happens after the "JUDGEMENT". Think of it this way hell is a county Jail, then Judgement for the Guilty then cast into the State prison the true Hell. Those that are saved by Grace through Faith, Sanctified (Made Holy/Atoned) and are Justified by the blood of the Lamb are with Christ the Non-Guilty. The mortal body (Flesh) is dead given back to the earth and the "soul" will receive a Resurrected and Glorified Body, in the "Image" of God as an Adopted son/child, being Holy and Blamless with no sin existing before a Holy God, a Future Glorification is to come for the eternal state of a Beleiver. Only God knows who is Saved. The Future Judgement when God separates the sheep and the goats. God has NOT made the decision until the great Judgement, that is yet to be revealed. The Faithfuls identity is IN Christ because Jesus is the one of True Faith and as Faithful believers IN Christ we are to follow Him. Christians have turned this Into Calvinist vs Arminian, both sides make good points, but is Jesus should be the center point, Jesus hold everything together.
@lbamusic
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2Cor 5: 6,8 tells us, to be absent from this body is to be present with the Lord. If we are Saved when we die, we immediately go to be with our Lord. I believe we get our glorified bodies immediately upon dying, and we immediately go to be present with our Lord.
@sethswint1396
7 ай бұрын
I just want to say can u please address the comments at the end. Like u stopping in the middle of what u are trying to say just to address the comments is distracting. I can’t get through the video if it’s something u are going to do consistently throughout the whole thing.
@rightlydividingtheword
Жыл бұрын
I just have to say this: if you take the stance that gentiles are not part of the new covenant is based purely on your hermeneutics, them you are inconsistent, because there are other stances you take abandoning your hermeneutics!!!
@clauderandolph2509
Жыл бұрын
Bro Corey isn’t voting 🗳️ a form of election. Don’t we pick and choose some and not pick and choose others?
@darenbilliot1003
Жыл бұрын
John Parson Hebrew4Christian The choice is ours - and ours alone - to make. "See, I am setting before you today a blessing and a curse..." Note that the expression "before you" (לִפְנֵיכֶם) implies that people have choice and free will (bechirah chofshit). Belief in free will coheres with the revelation of God's righteousness, since punishment is fitting only when a person has a genuine choice between doing right and wrong.
@Terror1Void
Жыл бұрын
You need to read bondage of the will by Martin Luther. Nowhere is free will taught in the Word. Just because a choice is laid before, does not prove free will exists.
@ricksonora6656
Жыл бұрын
How we sin is our choice. That we will sin is not. One is limited by one’s nature. The Law says, if you keep it perfectly, you will be justified before God. If you truly had free will, you could save yourself. You cannot. Only Jesus accomplished that perfection. Our will is free, but only within the boundaries set by our fallen nature. It’s called “bondage to sin.”
@darenbilliot1003
Жыл бұрын
@@Terror1Void It seems that any similarities we find in their hermeneutics, Luther’s monergistic and Erasmus’ synergistic soteriology would never align. Erasmus gives us his definition: “By free choice in this place we mean a power of the human will by which a man can apply himself to the things which lead to eternal salvation, or turn away from them.”
@ChristianJames559
Жыл бұрын
Brother, 5 minutes in and we start off with an "either or" fallacy. Either predestination equals Arminian (God looks down the corridors of time) or Calvinist (God predestines based off nothing in us but solely elects whomever He wills). How about God "predestines" that those who are in Christ will be saved. Meaning God had a plan for those that would choose him, not selecting individuals, but predestining a plan for those who choose him.
@The_Biblical_Layman
Жыл бұрын
First of all that is close to Arminianism and second that is not a common theme throughout the Bible. It has to be consistent and coherent and the alternative is not.
@Terror1Void
Жыл бұрын
So God is reacting to foreseen faith in man? That's arminianism and a works based salvation. God does not dole out grace on the merits or actions of fallen creatures.
@ChristianJames559
Жыл бұрын
No, it's not the same as Arminianism. God has a plan for those who choose Him. In simple terms, you host a birthday party and you have a plan for those who show up. You send invitations and provide, but it's up to them to respond. 😊
@Terror1Void
Жыл бұрын
@@ChristianJames559 You have not learned Christ aright. The Omnipotent isn't some jilted host, who has to seek permission to save anyone. Nowhere in scripture is this ever alluded to, let alone expressly stated. You are indeed preaching a works based salvation, whether you admit or not. Grace is not merited by accepting a party invitation. That's a conditional offer, works.
@The_Biblical_Layman
Жыл бұрын
@@ChristianJames559 I’m sorry this is to funny James. I’m going to say this. Read your Bible cover to cover with no pressups to another worldview and see what you come out of. God is not waiting for people to come in (hoping for them to come in) I always tell people it’s ok to not understand God sovereignty and free will and to not understand Calvinist. It’s hard that why Paul has to address the issue… is God unfair. In your scenario Paul wouldn’t need to address is God unfair. God bless
@michaelshults7675
Жыл бұрын
John Macarthur also said that even if a believer takes the mark of the beast that will not cancel Heaven for them. Na thats completely false.
@Onlybhstrpes
Жыл бұрын
When God says that He, "looked down to see IF," it's actually a RHETORICAL "IF," as He is "from everlasting, to everlasting" and knows ALL things, past present and future... simply because He ORDAINS it to be so. Cats out here acting like GOD needs "wonder IF" stuff about His own CREATION... no... that would be what MAN needs to do.
@1derfulpete
7 ай бұрын
What happened to Christ was prophesied by David and predestined by God (Acts 4:23-28). When the Gentiles heard the, they were glad and honored the word of the Lord; and all who believed were appointed for eternal life (Acts 13:48). This does not mean that all that were appointed to eternal life believed, but rather that all who believed were appointed to eternal life. For those God foreknew to have eternal life since they believed and became children of God, he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, which takes place at the Resurrection, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters. And those he predestined, he also called by the preaching of the Gospel; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified (Rom 8:29-30). This does not mean that God predestines who believes, but rather, who will be conformed to the image of his Son. That is all those who already believe. Rom 9:15-16 treats the issue between Jews and Gentiles. God decided that the election should not rely on dees but on faith in Christ, which is obvious from the context of Romans, and has nothing to do with God electing who believes and not. For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love, he predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, by his pleasure and will (Eph 1:4-5). That does not mean that every individual in Christ was predestined to be in Christ before the foundation of the world. It was rather the concept of Christ and the body of Christ, which was God’s secret, that was predestined. When we believe, and come in Christ, that is, into the body of Christ, under his headship, we become part of that predestination. Well in him, we were chosen and became predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will (Eph 1:11), which is also the meaning of 2 Tim 1:9 and 1 Cor 2:7.
@tiwanstrong1413
Ай бұрын
I'm going to say that you absolutely need more scripture than what you have chosen.... You did not mention Romans 9 or 11:00 you did not mention Proverbs you did not mention how God's understanding is infinite... God does not make the choice for us but he knows who will make the choice... He doesn't choose who will be saved but those who believe are called The chosen... He does not choose who we'll go to the lake of fire but he knows who will choose to go
@soledisciple
Жыл бұрын
Corey mentioned that none seek after God. So God does not look down the corridor of the time to see who will choose him because they won’t. But are we leaving something very important out? The fact that God sends out an invitation to everyone first? Then some respond some harden their hearts? So none seek after God of their own desire but that could all change once a person hears God’s good news. So what if God does foreknow those who will respond to the gospel versus those who will not? Couldn’t that still be possible and not contradict the scripture? I think this is what Is meant by free will. Is being presented with more than one option and being given the privilege to choose.
@rolysantos
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Corey, there is only ONE Covenant by which we are saved; the NEW Covenant! And No, the church does not "replace" Israel; the Church IS Israel. Scripture uses two analogies for Israel (among others) A Tree and a House: The "Tree" was cut down by God and "only a stump" was left (Isaiah 6) It was into this Israel "Tree" (what was left of it), into this "Remnant" that GOD chose (Isaiah 1:9, Romans 9:29) that He "grafted" Gentile branches into! It's STILL the Israel Tree. In Ephesians 2 Paul tells us 11 Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth and called “uncircumcised” by those who call themselves “the circumcision” (which is done in the body by human hands)- 12 remember that at that time you *WERE* separate from Christ, *excluded from citizenship in Israel* and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13 *But now* in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ. (Gentiles WERE excluded from Citizenship IN Israel, But NOW, we are not!) 14 For he himself is our peace, who *has made the two groups ONE* (Jew and Gentile) (This is the "mystery" spoken of by Paul in chapter 3 that gentiles are "heirs together WITH Israel, members together of ONE body") ONE body! ONE tree! ONE House! But now continue in Ephesians 2 with the "House" analogy: 19 Consequently, you are *no longer foreigners and strangers*, but *FELLOW CITIZENS* with God’s people (Israel) and also *members of his household* 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. Again, there is just one house, and the house is called "Israel," and the foundation is "the apostles, prophets with Jesus Christ as the Chief cornerstone" and Gentiles ARE members of this household, and are "like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house" (1 Peter 2:5) It's not "Replacement" theology! It's Expansion Theology! Romans says Israel was hardened "IN PART." Which means a part was not hardened! There have been Jews coming to the faith since Jesus, albeit a small part! And whatever remnant of earthly/national Israel God brings in to be a part of His "Israel of God," in the last days, must come into the ONE body, one tree (to which they are grafted back in), one "Household" which is the CHURCH! As Paul says in 1 Timothey 3:15 "if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in *God’s household* *which is the church* of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth." BTW, I use CAPS for emphasis only!
@rolysantos
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@@perazdera2827 No my friend, the "Israel of God" are those OF FAITH! Yes, God's plan from the beginning was to include Gentiles in His Kingdom, but this was a "Mystery which was not made known to people in other generations as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to God’s holy apostles and prophets. 6 This mystery is that through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus." (Ephesians 3:5-6) I'm not sure what point your making about Israel not existing when God told Abraham that he would be the father of many nations. It actually has nothing to do with "The Israel of God." Remember God chose JACOB over Esau. And JACOB represented the EARTHLY nation of Israel (a name which GOD would later give him) Jacob means "trickster or supplanter," Israel means "Wrestles with God." But even in God's chosen earthly nation of Israel NOBODY should have been saved. They were ALL corrupt. But GOD chose a remnant, by grace (Ezekiel 6:8-10, Isaiah 1:9, Romans 9:29) It was into THIS REMNANT that GOD preserved, the "Israel of God" as opposed to the "Israel after the flesh" (unbelievers) that God "grafted in" Gentiles! Remember, Paul said in Romans 11:7 "What then? What the people of Israel (After the Flesh) sought so earnestly they *did not obtain* but *The ELECT (Israel of God) among them DID* but the others were hardened," ------------------------------------- Brother God *IS GATHERING ISRAEL* NOW!!!! He has been since the Church began! Read Romans 11 again. The ELECT Israel DID obtain what "Israel" (after the flesh) did NOT! Go back and read Ephesians 2 until you understand this! The church IS founded UPON "The Israel of God" (who are of the faith of Abraham) The Gentiles are built INTO (or grafted INTO) the Israel House or the Israel Tree! What did Paul mean when he said Israel was hardened "In part" (Romans 11:25) It means a part WAS NOT hardened! ----------------------------------- Also, I challenge you to research what I'm about to tell you: When the NT says things like "I will draw ALL MEN to myself" it does not mean, as some believe "Every single person." It means GENTILES TOO, Not just Jews! Check every single verse that speaks of "All Men" and this is the context! Why? Because, as Paul tells us in Ephesians 3, the fact that gentiles would be included, and earthly/natural Israel was not special among the nations anymore, even Jesus' Disciples and Apostles did not know about this! THIS is why Jesus had to tell them in John 12, because some GENTILES asked to speak with Him and the disciples went and told him. It would very strange in those days for a gentile to seek after a Jewish Rabbi. THIS is why even Peter had to be given a vision in Acts 10 of "unclean" animals coming down out of heaven. God had sent an angel to Cornelius (a gentile) house and told him "Go get Peter." God knew that Pete would NOT have gone to a gentiles house so God has to SHOW Peter "Do Not call unclean what I have called clean." The message was Gentiles are no longer unclean, so go to Cornelius' house Peter! Then, in Acts 11, Peter's fellow Jews get angry with him for going into a gentile's house. UNTIL he tells them the vision he had. Then they say: "OH, then God has granted repentance unto the gentiles, who are we to speak against it." Again, "All Men" in EVERY verse in the NT means "NOT JUST JEWS." It never means "Every single person." THIS is why we read in Revelation 7:9 "After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, *from every nation, tribe, people and language* standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands." There are TWO ISRAELS: Earthly/Natural Israel (After the flesh) Heavenly/Spiritual Israel (Jew AND Gentile) "Israel of God." There are TWO Jerusalems: Jerusalem BELOW (earthly/natural) "which is in bondage" Jerusalem ABOVE (Heavenly/Spiritual) "Which is the mother of us all (who believe)" (Galatians 4/Hebrews 12:22) Things in the OT were earthly/natural and temporary. Things in the NT are "Better Things" (see Hebrews) and are Heavenly/Spiritual and ETERNAL!
@rolysantos
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@@perazdera2827 And by the way the ONLY True Israel who EVER was is Jesus Christ! Read Isaiah 49. Jesus IS the "servant ISRAEL" who will bring back Jacob (earthly Israel) AND Gentiles! And ONLY those IN Christ (Jew and Gentile) are "Israel of God" by faith!
@rolysantos
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@@perazdera2827 Brother I don't know where you find in scripture that God will "save all." If you mean by "all" every single person, you are grossly mistaken! God destroyed entire nations in the OT and he never gave them any warning! If He did give them warning, please cite scripture verses! Also, scripture and Jesus Himself teach that "FEW will find the narrow road that leads to life" (Matthew 7:14) I mean no disrespect, but everything you're saying is completely unbiblical. Whoever you're listening to, stop listening to them! Nothing you've written about scriptures is in context!
@donhaddix3770
7 ай бұрын
not Calvinist predestination
@michaelshults7675
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Is God a respecter of persons? Is he prejudice? I am no Bible expert by no means, but this doesn't make sense. Why didnt he just choose everyone? Wait didn't he say God so loved the World? Why was the Lamb of God, slain from the foundation of the world? Why did he blind Israel 'in part'? I can answer that one because for the non-Jews, his ( Omniscience ) to know what is going to happen for his sovereign will. He didn't blind them in full, the Cannain woman came to Jesus asking for deliverance for her daughter, he said he has come for the lost house of Israel. She still preserves and asked. He said its not right for me to take the childrens meat and feed it to the Dogs. She replied doesn't the master allow the dogs to eat the crumbs that fall from the table. He had to Honor her faith!! Those Jews that are blinded in part will be judged according: Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things. And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God? Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; Who will render to every man according to his deeds: to them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: but unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; but glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: for there is no respect of persons with God. For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; (for not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) in the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel. Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of God, and knowest his will, and approvest the things that are more excellent, being instructed out of the law; and art confident that thou thyself art a guide of the blind, a light of them which are in darkness, an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, which hast the form of knowledge and of the truth in the law. Thou therefore which teachest another, teachest thou not thyself? thou that preachest a man should not steal, dost thou steal? Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege? Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God? For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written. For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision. Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision? And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law? For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: but he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. Man i know people that claim to be 'saved' but live in types of sin that will end them up in Hell if they do not depart and repent. So does the marriage and divorce rules not apply to a 'saved' person?? Does fornication not apply to them as well, backbiting, liars, thieves etc etc? I always know what the answer they will give. "well then they are not truly saved" I Guess the man Judas that betrayed Jesus was saved, but what did he do? He repented unto man not God, when he returns the silver. Peter denied Christ, (oh wait God already for knew this) but he Repented to God.. Didn't he?? Just because you get regenerated does not mean, you cannot and will not make very very bad decisions thats a fact. Why repent? Thats a command, for who?? Can you choose not to repent? Of course 'anyone' can! Just because you have the earnest part of the spirit, God doesn't already keep looking at you as automatically covered. There's some sins that are very very bad, and if we keep doing those sins and die in that state well you aint gonna be heaven bound. Some will be beaten with many strips some with few, some will get the full lashing, You will get judged by the verse in Romans 1-29☝️i posted above, according to the light you have received . In the end it just ain't right, if God only chooses certain ones to go to heaven just because they are better than someone else and the rest well they're already hell bound, not because he already foreseen the end from the beginning, but because one person is better than another. If that's God i do think that's a monster, and the God i am referring to is no monster. He has to honor faith, it takes faith to get saved. Just like the woman of Cannain he had to honor her faith, even though he came for another and looked over her and her daughter, she had the kind of faith that defied logic and passes understanding, she had Bull dog grit, and was tenacious.
@Pontomas6089
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We are not predestined. The scriptures says we are not Exodus 32: 33. Your name will be erased if you dwell in sin. All are called but few are chosen. Matthew 22:14. Please do not read ESV and please read the entire Ephesians very well and does not speak of people being predestined to be saved. Read your scriptures very well.
@darenbilliot1003
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It’s not that God doesn’t want everyone to come to saving knowledge of him through his Son Jesus (1 Timothy 2:4); it’s that he wants us to freely choose him. As Jones writes, God “gives enough evidence of His existence so that those who want to believe will have their beliefs justified, but not so much evidence that those who don’t want to believe will be forced to feign loyalty.”
@kgar5String
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Jesus said, “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them” (John 6:44). In other words, the only way we can seek God is if the Holy Spirit has first stirred our hearts with a desire for God. It is God who draws us to Himself. Ephesians 2:8 underscores this truth: “By grace are you saved, through faith, and that not of yourselves. It is the gift of God.” Even the faith to believe for salvation does not originate within our fleshly nature. God enables the fallen human heart to seek Him, when in our own self-centered rebellion we would never do so. Every good thing originates with God (James 1:17). Faith in God is a good thing, and so it also originates with God.
@davidjunior9603
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@@kgar5String brother I believe the Bible says it but my question is if someone goes to hell is it because that person was rejected before birth or is it because that person rejected the gospel I believe would be held accountable for not believing and it does not make GOD less sovereign
@kgar5String
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@@davidjunior9603 The most common objection to the doctrine of predestination is that it is unfair. Why would God choose certain individuals and not others? The important thing to remember is that no one deserves to be saved. We have all sinned (Romans 3:23) and are all worthy of eternal punishment (Romans 6:23). As a result, God would be perfectly just in allowing all of us to spend eternity in hell. However, God chooses to save some of us. He is not being unfair to those who are not chosen, because they are receiving what they deserve. God’s choosing to be gracious to some is not unfair to the others. No one deserves anything from God; therefore, no one can object if he does not receive anything from God. An illustration would be a man randomly handing out money to five people in a crowd of twenty. Would the fifteen people who did not receive money be upset? Probably so. Do they have a right to be upset? No, they do not. Why? Because the man did not owe anyone money. He simply decided to be gracious to some. If God is choosing who is saved, doesn’t that undermine our free will to choose and believe in Christ? The Bible says that we have the choice-all who believe in Jesus Christ will be saved (John 3:16; Romans 10:9-10). The Bible never describes God rejecting anyone who believes in Him or turning away anyone who is seeking Him (Deuteronomy 4:29). Somehow, in the mystery of God, predestination works hand-in-hand with a person being drawn by God (John 6:44) and believing unto salvation (Romans 1:16). God predestines who will be saved, and we must choose Christ in order to be saved. Both facts are equally true. Romans 11:33 proclaims, “Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out!”
@eloiseramsey9276
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Those of us who choose to be Christians are Predestined. Example Moses told the israelites those who choose God stand to the right, those who don't choose God to the left. Those on the right were Predestined to continue on, those on the left Predestined to die. God has told us what choosing him will get us and what choosing the devil will get us. The gifts and punishments have already been created. I didn't choose to be a sinner, I didn't choose to be born, I didn't choose to be the daughter of Sam and joyce Howard. We are powerless. You will be ruled by God or the devil, but never ourselves, because we are powerless. We didn't create life or death.
@bobs4497
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The example you used in Ezekiel, if God causes you to walk in HIS statutes, he gives you a new heart, new spirit, and you say this is over riding someone's free will, explain why you still sin, that's not Gods will, God doesn't put HIS spirit or gives you a new heart to keep sinning, you were already doing that. Your teaching is questionable.
@martingreenberg9673
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Maybe his teaching isn’t questionable but your understanding. What then does it mean to put His spirit in us and what does it mean to cause us to walk in his statutes? Clearly he does so while not overriding our total will.
@bobs4497
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@@martingreenberg9673 thats the problem with this teaching, you cannot do Gods will and your own, that's being double minded, you deny yourself to do Gods will. Not my will, but Gods! You can't have it both ways.
@darenbilliot1003
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Christian apologists spend a lot of time justifying belief in God’s existence. I do that, too. But God doesn’t want us merely to believe he exists, that he possesses certain attributes, or even that he came into the world through Jesus. As James says, “You believe in one God. Good! Even the demons belief and shudder.” No, God wants us to love and trust him. God knows that faith is the best vehicle for this love and trust. As Jones writes, “Because the Lord doesn’t want to interfere with our free will, He gives enough evidence of His existence so that those who want to believe will have their beliefs justified, but not so much evidence that those who don’t want to believe will be forced to feign loyalty.”
@kgar5String
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Then why did he say what he said to the children of Isreael? Ezekiel 36 26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. God is the one talking, he is the one putting, he is the one taking away, he is the one giving, he said is the one causing them to walk in his statues and causing them to keep his judgments and do them. How free is the will of the people that Jesus was talking to? Man just wants to be in control.
@reynaldoperez7285
11 ай бұрын
wrong, I'm calling you out. God did not annoint Portis pirate or herod. Still love you, but NO GOOD.
@romeotrinh6415
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Jesus already planned before the foundation who he chosen his disciples including Judas the one betrayed him later. Just because Jesus chosen you doesn’t mean you 100% save if you not keep the faith until the end!
@darenbilliot1003
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SOTERIOLOGY 101 If we go back to examine the context of Paul’s original quote in Psalm 14, we read that he is specifically speaking of “the fool” who says, “there is no God,” and then he contrasts between the “evil doers” and “His people…the generation of the righteous.” The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds, there is none who does good…Have they no knowledge, all the evildoers who eat up my people as they eat bread and do not call upon the Lord? There they are in great terror, for God is with the generation of the righteous. - Psalm 14:1; 4-5
@joycechafin4587
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I'd like to know what John Calvin has to do with Jesus? Because I only worship the Lord Jesus Christ
@SalvationSoulBeautiful
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I'm not sure for sure what scripture but it's for whosoever will come and take of the water of Life freely and then also it says all that are heavy laden and weary I will give you rest and predestined is predestined plan of God's redemption but it's for all men it's not for chosen set of people that wouldn't be that wouldn't be righteous of the Lord to send some people to hell and others to heaven no we have free will that's my take on it
@kingdomofheavenembassy6489
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Calvinism is not the true Gospel.
@bigmic1972
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For some reason you are so soft on racism in this country I don't know why. But John mccarthur went so far as to say that God Legitimized slavery. And he said that slavery was a good thing for those who are poor and uneducated with and educated which blacks were in his day. This man is old enough to remember segregation White's only signs. And hes very intelligent there's no way he couldn't have known How it would affect a black listener.
@lbamusic
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Mike...JMac knew and didn't care. Racists don't care about Black folks feelings.
@bigmic1972
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@@lbamusic Right and for some reason Corey is soft on it. I have respect for Corey. But when I hear him talk about how prison gave him a heart on the bonus and nobody scares him. Makes you wonder why he seems to be scared to call out This particular white man. And even that wishy wishy-washy I'm not sure why they switch the word to slave in the English Bible come on man you know exactly why.
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