You have one of the best practical Prius video series I have seen.
@jwbraman
5 жыл бұрын
I drove an 2007 135,000 miles over 5 yrs and became a non-famous hyper-miler :) I learned that the HOTTER the better for mileage. Got over 1000 miles on one tank (71mpg avg) on a long trip during a heat wave. Stop and go interstate traffic is awesome for mileage as you average about 20-25 mph and just glide while others speed up and hit then hit the brakes !! LOL
@rooternook
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very informative video. I like your honesty, you provide true real world videos on the Prius.
@Hucklebuz
7 жыл бұрын
In order to protect the hybrid system, the hybrid system oil has to heat to specific temperatures before it works and you can then drive on electricity only. I believe there are three or four stages with specific increasing temperatures. With each set specific increasing temperature, you are able to drive on electric only at increasing speeds. When the highest temperature is reached, you can drive up to 45 MPH. In the Winter, it takes much longer for the hybrid system to warm up the necessary temperatures. The time it takes for the hybrid system to warm up depends how cold it is outside. If it's cold and your trip is short, the hybrid system likely will not be able to warm up enough. On longer trips, the hybrid system will eventually warm up and be able to drive on electric. One way I check if the hybrid system is warming up, when it is warm enough for the car to go into EV at a stop, I turn on the heat. If the car starts up, it has not reached its maximum temperature. If you turn on the heat and the car does not start, you know the hybrid system is warming up more sufficiently. Until the hybrid system is fully warmed up, I will turn off my heat at stops lights so the engine shuts off. Again, the engine will only turn off at a stop when the hybrid system has reached a minimal temperature. In summer, my MPG has been up to 58 MPG. In Winter in single digits, My MPG can be in the 30's. Still, that is better than most other cars at anytime of the year.
@jettlash1000
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative comment!
@layziebone2152
7 жыл бұрын
Yes, if you turn off climate control the car will be more willing to go into EV...but I'm sure -5 F no one in their right mind would want to do that lol
@jettlash1000
7 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@layziebone2152
7 жыл бұрын
Yep indeed, the car will maintain operating temp or the ICE will fire up, so likewise if you run climate you're pulling more heat from the engine which in turn reduces the coolant temp and should see that the ICE will run more often and immediately when you turn the car on. Now in the Prime, the car uses a heat pump compressor, so you do get instant heat but of course that reduces EV range and not sure if the ICE would fire up anyway since it is cold on the Prime.
@Syncopic1235
7 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@moose64
7 жыл бұрын
I bought my 2017 Prius at the end of Nov so I can't wait till the warmer months to see the km mileage improve. Right now I can get 600km to a tank driving in Sport mode all the time.
@danwat1234
7 жыл бұрын
In sport mode, it is hard to keep the engine off because the accelerator is so sensitive. If you keep it in eco mode then it's much easier to manage that threshold of EV mode versus hybrid mode. And when you floor it in EV mode, you still have the same amount of power.
@rabbitruck
7 жыл бұрын
I consistently enjoy your Prius videos. Thanks for taking the time to make and share them. Don't let the occasional rude, snarky, and passive aggressive poster in the comments get you down--some people were raised by wolves and have no couth. Keep up the nice work. I'm looking to pick up a Prius in the not too distant future, probably a Two.
@jettlash1000
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the awesome comment. I enjoy putting these together, and it's nice to see some kind people out there! Have a fantastic day!
@rabbitruck
7 жыл бұрын
One question if I may, and I apologize for asking this on your MPG video, a bit off topic. I test drove a Prius Two Eco today, and one thing that I noticed was that the seat cushions seemed pretty short on the front seats. Thigh support seemed compromised by the short bottom cushion. Almost like the seat was 7/8 scale or something. I'm not that huge, and I drive a Civic, so I'm used to small cars, but the Civic seat seems larger or longer on the bottom. Maybe it's something I'd get used to, but it concerned me, thinking that maybe the lack of thigh support might wear thin on a long trip. If you could opine on this, I'd be interested to hear what you think about the seats.
@jettlash1000
7 жыл бұрын
I have been a fan of the seats, but it seems to be a hate-it or love-it issue. My wife wasn't in love with them, but they always fit me just right. There was marketing material from Toyota that said that their CEO has back problems, and he personally designed the seats to be as comfortable as possible. It seems to be a subjective topic though, because of all the variables that go along with comfort.
@rabbitruck
7 жыл бұрын
jettlash1000 thank you, appreciate you taking time to reply
@realmarcosortega
7 жыл бұрын
Today I noticed the same thing while driving my 2016 Prius Three to work. Now down here in East Texas we are nowhere near as cold as where you are at, but my average MPG in the Summer was a nice 58-60 MPG. In today's 30* weather, I was struggling to get 40 MPG. It stayed at 38-39 MPG with little traffic on the highway I was on. Once I got closer to the city and traffic started to pick up and slow me down from 70 to 65 MPH, I started to get 42-44 MPG and it pretty much stayed that way till I got to work. And this was with having the defroster on to melt the frost off my windshield and side windows and then once that was done, I switched the heater to Auto to keep me warm for a little bit and then turned it off for the last 35 mins. of my drive to work. It's an hour and 10 min. drive to my job. We'll see how well or worse my MPG will be on the way home tonight when I leave.
@jettlash1000
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, not too surprising. All my vehicles do this, but it just seems worse when you're used to 60+ mpg.
@danwat1234
7 жыл бұрын
Keep the heat at 74F or less or maybe 75. The software will keep the engine off longer, letting the coolant cool off a bit more before forcing the engine on. It keeps the engine very hot if you have it set for 76 or warmer. Suspect the forward defrost button is very non-eco but defogs very quickly with heat and AC usage.
@jesser8502
4 жыл бұрын
Great videos Sir! Your channel helped me take the plunge and purchase my own Prius (four touring, 2017). I was curious if you've had any issue with a ticking/clicking sound emanating from the front brakes? Only issue i've had so far and absolutely love the car otherwise. Averaging around 55 mpg out here in Las Vegas. Take care and keep up the great work!
@schmo7777
7 жыл бұрын
ya, winter here gets down to -30 and have had 8 weeks of -15 or lower. mid March and gonna be -24 in a couple days. Canadian prairies. my optima hybrid rated for 35-40 mpg has been getting 28 combined. just covered grills and hoping for a 10-20% increase.
@jaredlupton6838
5 жыл бұрын
I used to have a 2010 model prius II. It would get about 40 mpg in 10-20 degree weather. Now I have a 2016 II eco model, and driving at the same temperatures, it still averages around 50. I've seen 48 to about the low 50s, and after 10-15 minutes of driving it will start to average over 50. I've had trips where even in the cold it gets in the mid to high 50s at those temperatures. Pretty amazing with the Nickel-Hydride battery system. Great technology.
@bangtansonyeodan8609
Жыл бұрын
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@jonservice
7 жыл бұрын
I just got to take my 08 Prius out in the snow/ice, my experience is much the same as your 2016. MPG is about 30-35 but at 60mph fully warmed up it was doing 40mpg. Traction control is very aggressive on my car and keeps you from driving like an idiot unless you slowly build up the speed and make a fast move which is foolish. Keep the videos of the Prius coming jettlash1000! I wish someone was doing this with the Prius Prime.
@jonservice
7 жыл бұрын
grim reaper Prius Prime. It has a number of better features including how the heater works so it doesn't steal fuel economy to heat the car in winter like the 2016 Prius does. I would get the advanced package too. for Uber I would look at a used car and not a new one too. I drove for Uber and the clients you'll be driving don't care about your vehicle. I stopped driving for Uber because they don't pay enough to deal with the clients or the amount of miles it required.
@Thresholdmoment
7 жыл бұрын
prius driving for maximum mileage depends primarily on driving habits. doing the speed limit (or less) and using cruise ctrl as well as proper tire inflation. and regular maintenance. a heated garage will keep the components warmer also.
@aspecreviews
4 жыл бұрын
Just picked up a first generation Prius! It's a black 2003 model. I've noticed that even when it's 75-80 degrees outside, the gas engine HAS to run for the first 3-5 minutes to get everything up to temp, and then the engine stops only when you come to a complete stop for 5-10 seconds. After that, you're in full hybrid mode, and can drive in EV up to 40 mph. It's addictive watching the energy flow on the little screen, and having the instant torque (more torque than a 2003 Acura TL!) right off the line from the electric motor!
@mikelewis6726
6 жыл бұрын
Hi this is my first time on your Channel and that was very informative thank you
@jettlash1000
6 жыл бұрын
You are welcome, thank you!
@bradleymckinnon680
7 жыл бұрын
I use to walk in very cold temperature and my cell phone would die because it froze, letting it warm up in my house it was back at half battery. the reason the battery is no working is because it's not warm enough to work or charge. if the battery dies it cannot return so Toyota has it run on just gas till the cabin temperature is adequate for proper battery operation.
@AbcDino843
7 жыл бұрын
Yup, I noticed that too, although I live in SoCal so our temperatures are ridiculous compared to yours, our winter is mid 40's to high 50's. I commute 60 miles per day. Going to work I have a ten mile 400ft climb, followed by a 15 mile 1,000ft drop, and obviously reverse coming back from work. Going down to work I am getting high 60's to about 80mpg, depending how I drive. Coming back up after work, I average 60-62mpg. Since our "winter" kicked in, I've noticed the battery engaging less and later, but considering mild temperature it has only affected my mileage by about 5%. Unrelated to colder weather, I noticed that I have to "pump" my gas pedal to force the battery to kick in sooner. If I feel it should be in the EV mode but it isn't, I quickly depress the pedal all the way, and press it back to about where it was, and often the EV mode would kick in right away.
@Augownage
7 жыл бұрын
Another thing to be aware of is battery temperature. If the battery is very cold, even if charged to a high level, the hybrid system will not pull much current from it or allow it to charge fast during braking. It can take 30 minutes to two hours of driving to warm the battery into the ideal temperature range at winter temperatures. Running the heat a lot will allow the battery to warm faster, as the cooling fan near the rear seats will suck in warm air, helping to warm the battery.
@Pianistp3
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting the video. I was curious as to how the gen 4 Prius's perform in sub 0 weather. I have a gen 3 and live in the Chicagoland area where it has been below 0. I currently get in the low 40s mpg
@dale5898
Жыл бұрын
Ten thousand thumbs up! Thanks for your hard work. I drive a 2019 awd XLE. My mileage is down.Not nearly as cold in Missouri. I wonder if Shell reformulates the gas for winter season? Could that be a factor?
@jettlash1000
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes, they alter the gas formula in colder weather, which plays a big factor. Any battery suffers as temps drop.
@MyLifeThai371
Жыл бұрын
My buddies 2014 Prius that he bought brand new gets 39-45 mpg during the winter up here in ND. We get 2-4 weeks of -40 weather up here.
@awdx4g63
6 жыл бұрын
amazing video. My highlander hybrid can't keep up 32mpg of mixed driving from the summer. Now in winter i"m getting 22 to 24mpg mixed.
@nickhahn5412
6 жыл бұрын
I bought my 2017 a couple days ago, on the trip to grocery store im around 40mpg On the way back fully warmed up im 60+mpg
@mcqueenfanman
4 жыл бұрын
To get your MPGs back do this, run a hot air intake and block most of the radiator grille. Cold air is much denser and the maf sensor sees this, so it has to add fuel to maintain the proper air/fuel ratio. I use tape to block the grille so it's easy to remove, this helps get the car up to and keep temp ever when the heater is going. The heater is kind of a radiator in itself.Running it can cool the engine it very cold weather.
@Shorby99EK
2 жыл бұрын
My 2014 Subaru Forester this winter was getting 18-20mpg. Summer it does around 32+in the same loop. Winter time sucks when you don’t have a block heater and your vehicle is trying to hit 180 deg oil temp
@sleekitwan
Жыл бұрын
Okay, I think I get it now. Most ICE cars, the system simply ‘is’. Sure, they try to warm the engine etc, but the range of controls at the car’s disposal are minimal - a thermostat preventing coolant going the radiator route and obvs not having the electric or wax-pellet/viscous cooling fan coupling start up. Between the commenters and your video, I see that excessively cold weather, might make the Prius hybrid work very hard during an entire short-ish commute, to get the Prius systems up to temperature. It’s like a horribly convoluted warm-up period. I have only had my older gen 3 from February this year, so it’s missed the worst of winter, and it was said to be a mild one anyway (hmm, didn’t feel like it with energy prices). This probably explains why I’ve been able to utilise the battery for the first time, to do at least the mile or so promised by Toyota and even at 30mph, where previously it dropped me out saying the acceleration was too much. But, I am certain my car was stood awhile before I got it also. IE the battery has begun filling-up to the full range of bars, which it didn’t do for the first couple of months I had it. But, mine has returned 45mpg consistently, in almost any conditions, with varied driving including flat-out in places, in short bursts. That’s UK mpg, so it would only be 41mpg or so in the US. That’s actual measured fuel consumption. The dash says 48.3 mpg. Thanks for the info, Toyota feel they’ve been able to introduce hybrid versions of every vehicle now, so I guess the Prius has in some ways accomplished its mission as we now are 6 years past this video uploaded. Or perhaps, it’s only the first 20 years, ‘phase 1’. Take care all. [Edit: To put this in perspective, this 45mpg, my previous single time I got 45mpg, was once back in 1989, in a compact Honda-based car, with a 1.4 16-valve engine and a very sleek aerodynamic body shape. It was terrible for 4,000 miles from new, then suddenly began to produce enough power, and the economy hit 50mpg on a 1,000 mile trip around France. But that was the only car to do this. And my last car, a 2.4 litre 5-pot Volvo V70 automatic diesel turbo, managed 44mpg in perfect conditions - open highway/motorway driving to Scotland and back, engine etc well-maintained. BUT, it was high mileage and had what us Toyota Prius drivers would call an ‘old-fashioned friction-plate & slush-box’ auto transmission. If Toyota had told me, their Prius was a new kind of automatic transmission, quite distinct from CVT as we know it with pulley-cones etc, and that this new design of auto transmission had no wasteful elements like friction plates, torque convertor, etc, I’d have bought one ten years earlier. But instead it was billed as a hybrid and all the other transmission stuff that’s always been what ‘killed’ my high-mileage used cars, being rendered obsolete by the Prius, never seemed to get mentioned. Oh well, I have one now, it’s a great car, it’s just not what some people have grown to believe a car ‘should’ be.]
@layziebone2152
7 жыл бұрын
MPG decline is typical. Once the outside temps are above 55 F your mileage will increase... I have a '16 Prius 2 and live in the southeast, still been able to average over 50 MPG on a tank.
@DavidFox22
7 жыл бұрын
Having the heater on also impacts the engine running while stopped. Typically if battery has power, the engine won't run unless the heater is turned on.
@danwat1234
7 жыл бұрын
Yes. I typically see if it's set at 74 F or less, the engine on % isn't really affected. Otherwise any more, then the engine will come on to keep it's coolant in a tighter range of hotness. Won't wait for the battery to get low / accelerator inputs. Tested near freezing, climate control on 'eco' , which really just affects max fan speed i think. Fan speed adjustments, if you take it out of 'auto', doesn't affect engine on % besides taking more heat out of the engine coolant of course. At least if set at 74 or less.
@DavidFox22
7 жыл бұрын
I find even having it switched on in cold temps causes the engine to kick on while parked or not moving. For example, several times I've come home and parked - the engine continues to run unless I click the heater off or the battery is nearly full. I usually only click the heat on once I've hit the highway and the engine will be running anyway. I've found it to work well.
@danwat1234
7 жыл бұрын
One of the few good uses of the "EV mode" button i suppose. I think it may ignore that request if you have the heat cranked way up too.
@Trades46
7 жыл бұрын
The pains of the liftback not possessing any form of electric heating. The Volt and Energi get around this with resistance heaters while the Prime follows Tesla's method of employing a heat pump; kudos to Toyota for spending the money where it counts. Even so in a EV winter driving would slice a 1/4 of your range from climate control alone, so a small MPG loss but no range anxiety and utilizing the heat from the burnt gas is a good use of energy I reckon.
@vegasromaniac
3 жыл бұрын
you are my kind of a guy with your test . also I would like to know how much the onboard computer lies compared with the pump ...
@sonicclang
7 жыл бұрын
My mileage has also dropped since the temps have started hovering around the zero mark. I have a 2013 Prius V. I got mine when it was already cold out, so I don't have warm temps to compare against. But even going to fairly cold to bitterly cold, my mileage dropped about 4 MPG.
@autecheee
2 жыл бұрын
Same for me in my 2012 Prius V, 41mpg in Winter and 45mpg summer. Winter/Summer gasoline formulation has a slight effect as well and likely decreases mileage by 1-2 mpg in Winter.
@lasers33
4 жыл бұрын
My 2015 Prius with 84k miles. Is getting 29-36 mpg on a consistent basis in eco mode. I don't know what's going on but I'm thinking the battery might be failing. It used to get 47-55 mpg everyday. This started happening around 50k miles. I got brand new tires brakes rotors oil change full synthetic oil Mobil 1 0w30 and new spark plugs ngk oem I'm about to sell it and drive my 89 Corolla which gets the same mileage
@sassylady2001
4 жыл бұрын
Take it to a mechanic that is familiar with a Prius.
@michealportwood5987
5 жыл бұрын
I have a 2012 Toyota Prius I get around 41 to 42 miles per gallon consistently I was also a dealer car driver for Toyota in Portland Oregon drove the newer style Priuses all the time got about 47 all the time
@mickeydrago9401
5 жыл бұрын
So they are over 50 miles per gallon now....
@Joshleesmallin
6 жыл бұрын
One big thing i noticed from the first video was the style and speed at which you were driving. I'm sure the temp affects it but you were also not driving the same way.
@jod2u89
3 жыл бұрын
Have 2002 2nd gen with 460000 miles and still gets 40 miles to gal still original batteries. No major issue engine,or power train only cosmetic issues Rusty and lots of it. Have tried to get it stuck in snow mud and it is hard to get stuck
@robertmontgomery7158
7 жыл бұрын
Yes, all electric. Cars ( BEV, hybrids , PHEV all lose power) this is well known and normal in cold weather. Now you know this well known fact. If you want to improve mileage, turn off the cabin heat.
@romansten9
7 жыл бұрын
Robert Montgomery is the heater warm, how about in 30 below
@YanLuo
7 жыл бұрын
After watching this, I won't feel bad getting only 40 in my 07 Prius in the winter
@jettlash1000
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's not bad.
@Aleksandr_N
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this review. I'm now considering buy of Toyota Corolla 2.0 hybrid (EU market). And my daily commute to work and back in winter was a BIG question to me: will the hybrid system have enough time to heat up and charge in a winter during 15min/10km daily commute.
@lesroberts2244
4 жыл бұрын
Get the 1.8 another 5 mpg.
@nickhahn5412
6 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of this is also tire pressure. And extreme cold temperatures its dripping and causing way more drag
@sassylady2001
4 жыл бұрын
Put more air in tires in cooler weather. I run my tires at 40 psi.
@freshandsaltyjohnny
Жыл бұрын
@@sassylady2001 more air compromises drive safety. Especially around icy roads.
@lesroberts2244
4 жыл бұрын
Very good info thanks. Just subscribed.
@jettlash1000
4 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard, and thanks!
@wmiller843
4 жыл бұрын
Are you still happy with your Prius in 2020? I've enjoyed your Prius videos.
@jettlash1000
4 жыл бұрын
The Prius is gone (video coming soon on that). I'll be on to the next latest and greatest. I do miss that Prius a lot though.
@aspecreviews
4 жыл бұрын
@@jettlash1000 Can we have an update?
@InstituteOfLos
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update. Where did you get the steering wheel applique (lower portion) in black?
@jettlash1000
7 жыл бұрын
Came stock that way on the Prius Two.
@snoobler
7 жыл бұрын
Hybrid cars get 100% of the energy they use from gas. It helps to keep that in mind. ANY increase in energy demand increases gas used, e.g., EV Mode will eventually necessitate the GAS engine to run to replace the electrons used in EV mode. It's really just a consumer-driven novelty that likely reduces overall fuel efficiency and increases cycle depth on the battery, thus reducing its life. Cold Weather Factors: Cold air density is greater. For each piston stroke, more air and more fuel are run through the engine thus using more fuel per mile traveled. This mpg loss occurs for ALL vehicles, but the other factors below makes it MUCH more noticeable for a hybrid. The ICE is typically the only source of heat. Heater use demands the gas engine to run. Front defroster runs both the heat and the compressor - both use more fuel. Rear defroster increases the electric load - more fuel. Hybrid batteries in general and NiMH batteries specifically do not do well in cold weather. They are unable to deliver and receive high current until the battery temp has risen to a predetermined level. Temps are increased by the battery self-warming by limited discharge and charge as well as normal interior heating. Once the battery is fully warmed up (typically over 10-15°C for NiMH), it begins to function normally.
@jettlash1000
7 жыл бұрын
Very nicely put!
@RonBand01
7 жыл бұрын
My only problem with what S Keith said was that "Hybrid cars get 100% of the energy they use from gas." That's not correct in the case of the Prius models. A % (and it varies with conditions) comes from the braking process. As you apply the brakes it charges the hybrid battery. If you live where I live in the foothills of North Carolina, there are lots of times when you start to brake early as you come to a stop light or sign. Now it is impossible to pit the extra use of the brakes to added cost of maintenance, but when I traded my car at 121K, the brakes still had plenty of life to them. My friend has 170k commuter miles on his 2009 and he has normal brake function. By the way my Prius mechanic says that maintaining 38lbs of pressure, not 36, will add about 28-33 miles to each tank. The sacrifice there is ride comfort and probably wear. Although I do not rotate my tires, I replace the fronts about every 45K. The rears will go double that without rotation. I replaced the rears at 96K but they were showing wear. I can't say for my 2017. It only has 2k miles in 30 days. Thank you so much for the videos you do. Not sure I would want to live in -15 temps, but at least you get a White Christmas.
@snoobler
7 жыл бұрын
Ron, you need to take it back a step.The kinetic energy being captured from regenerative braking came from where? Yes. It came from the gas used to accelerate and maintain the kinetic energy. Go look at a Prius. Look at how you can add energy to it. There isn't a power plug. There is only a gas filler pipe. You are confusing the Prius' ability to use energy more efficiently with its energy source. Rather than convert kinetic energy to heat via friction pads, it stores it as chemical potential energy in the battery. The energy in the battery is still ultimately comes from gas.
@nickhahn5412
5 жыл бұрын
I think a plug in block heater would be perfect for this application. Well worth the money.
@mitchrodee
5 жыл бұрын
Nick Hahn , that wouldn’t affect the temperature of the battery much at all.
@nickhahn5412
5 жыл бұрын
mitchrodee the battery doesn’t need warming really. Its actually ideal that it stay cool. The gas engine has to get up to temperature and provide hear to the cabin. Thats why cold starts like this arent as economical as a warmer weather ones. The block heater would absolutely help mitigate this.
@larryrichards9418
7 жыл бұрын
How does your mpg measured at the pump compare to the mpg the car shows? On my Prius C, mpg measured at the pump was 2 mpg less than what the car showed. For my Prime, on my last fill-up my measured mpg was 60, while the car showed 63.5. (My mpg has collapsed during this latest cold snap.) You can get a black applique for your shifter panel for $45. It just sticks right on over top the existing white part.
@1fedwinri
7 жыл бұрын
Larry Richards I have observed that problem to grow with frequent shutoffs. I speculate that anytime the engine turns on immediately after a start, the delay until the system would have kicked the engine on represents time the computer is loading and obtaining initial instrument readings. Remaining parked for about 15 seconds at start seemed to cut that mpg discrepancy; naturally, so does using park at stop versus a full shutoff. My problem arises where strong acceleration (as I live among many steep hills) or the temperature or both together will immediately kick on the engine most of the year. The Northwest sees 9 months of rain (= need for defrost) as well. I found that pushing my climate control down to 65° F or even Low prior to parking alleviated this problem as it is not want for 15 V battery stores but the need to add heat that invokes ICE use. -- This is a function of cabin temp as much as set temp with CC systems. -- A corollary: that means that if I reach a stop sign while climbing, I simply turn the fan speed up above 2 bars and set a high temp to insure I don't get the ICE shutoff. Otherwise this produces a problem similar to that with an automatic transmission that takes slowing as cue to hold gear for RPM reduction vs. downshifting for the unforseen yet imminent horsepower demand. Coming out of EV is less of an energy draw than starting a traditional ICE, but efficiency still benefits from cutting back. Gen 3 here.
@kathyfann
3 жыл бұрын
Is it better to warm it up for 5 minutes or so. Would that warm up things with with the Heat on?
@jonessenoj6753
4 жыл бұрын
Wow ! Thanks for this ! Seems that Toyota haven't been upfront about their mpg....bloody cold where I live...90% of the year !!!
@wuhanlabtech3580
3 жыл бұрын
No car gets close to rated mpg in cold .. so you can say that statement for every car . But if you average the entire year a Prius is gonna do hugely better mpg then non hybrid just facts
@romansten9
7 жыл бұрын
Is the heater warm at 15-30 below zero? Does it take longer to warm up than other non hybrid cars, or blow less powerful heating?
@1fedwinri
7 жыл бұрын
jettlash1000 you made the"apples to apples" appeal more than once, but I have a hypothesis I was looking forward to testing better. I'd it's not too late in your season for a cold snap, do please consider this: If you leave the car in park when starting but begin your mpg record at start, wouldn't it be fair to use the aggregate of idling plus driving to measure mileage over all? I see better numbers when I have done this (about 5° below freezing and above here) with a fully-chilled engine and cabin. My reasoning was that the traction charging is better utilized at low idle vs. gas plus a downhill brake--especially where ICE has an elevated idle and neither hybrid hydraulics nor battery were warn. Wear on these systems also factored in. I typically give time for oil to achieve fair to good effectiveness before engaging climate control, but that is sometimes part of my warm-up routine a couple minutes in. Another interesting point made here by Augownage is that the battery sees some temperature gains and therefore comes into more of its utility early with a cozy cabin at the rear vent to the battery specifically. Assuming the venting is not an active system--that is, off in cold like a radiator fan--that might open up the possibility for some gains at least for routes with reasonably frequent changes in grade. What do you think? Is starting the ICE too warm up practical in your garaged setting sufficient to make way for a test?
@jettlash1000
7 жыл бұрын
Is the argument that gas mileage may be increased by allowing the car to idle before driving?
@1fedwinri
7 жыл бұрын
yep
@jettlash1000
7 жыл бұрын
You'll definitely get better mileage after it's warmed up, but how much gas is burned in the idle process? Might make for an interesting test.
@susan4yahshua
3 жыл бұрын
Does it have a Lith or Nic battery ? They have Nic in the AWD ones for cold climates ....? Right ?
@-Gunnarsson-
4 жыл бұрын
Fun to see modern hybrids like yours strugling at 40mpg. When my 2001 diesel does about 71mpg in both summer and winter. And I just paid 2000$ to get it. Prefer mpg over mumbo jumbos.
@rnwnsfla
4 жыл бұрын
Check out hybrid coolant level regulary. My Prius had electric water pump issue. So expensive to fix.
@jettlash1000
4 жыл бұрын
That's not good! We've had very little (if any) issues with the Toyotas in our family.
@susan4yahshua
3 жыл бұрын
U say check the HB coolant regularly...whens that ? Weekly , monthly , when u change ur oil ? When ?
@capitainevideo
7 жыл бұрын
We recently purchased two 2016 Prius C's and after the deal was all said and done at the the dealership, we were told that for winter driving the car needs to be warmed up for a minimum of 3-5 minutes before starting out. Toyota doesn't offer a factory installed remote starter. How many of you use a remote starter to pre-warm the electric motors?
@jettlash1000
7 жыл бұрын
I don't have a remote starter, but it's an interesting thought. No doubt your mileage would be better when it's warmed up, but you'd have 3-5 minutes of 0.00 MPG.
@94SexyStang
7 жыл бұрын
My Camry Hybrid gets around 40--60mpg in anything above 50deg easily. Anything below 30deg, and It's high 20's mpg. If I take a longer drive and get everything warmed up, I can usually get her back up around 35mpg, BUT you gotta dig a little deeper to get back the Mpg's in the cold....plan your Accel, Brake, Coasting, Turning, taking the Apex turns properly, etc.
@oneundecided
4 жыл бұрын
Would this main Prius display not bother you while driving especially at night time displaying that Prius hybrid system functioning inside the car like a cartoon type? Can you turn off that display at night? Thank you.
@jettlash1000
4 жыл бұрын
It’s not a distraction at all. You can dim it down at night.
@b9307893
6 жыл бұрын
When you run the heater the gas engine runs almost all of the time...
@True2U08
3 жыл бұрын
Does it go back to the original after winter is over? Or is the mileage lost forever?
@infodesignwala
Ай бұрын
i Have an issue with it i am facing it nowadays most of the time car stays on the engine and less battery. on battery, it shows only 3 cells charged and then use it and after a few 1 to 2 km it converts to engine I have lost at least 80km fuel mileage was 15km/l usually it does at least 24 to 26 easily
@brianmef71
4 жыл бұрын
That was still great gas mileage compared to other cars
@noneya135
7 жыл бұрын
Great videos.
@BusStopBourbon
7 жыл бұрын
Trade it in for the 2017 Prius Prime. 30 miles full ev = problem solved.
@jettlash1000
7 жыл бұрын
Only two seats in the back is a deal breaker for me. Child #3 coming soon...
@schmo7777
7 жыл бұрын
jettlash1000 Hyundai ioniq plug in. more efficient than Prius prime , lifetime battery warranty , and 5 seats.
@schmo7777
7 жыл бұрын
f0t0b0y electric cars have their mileage range cut in half approximately when temperatures are well below freezing.
@rdvqc
7 жыл бұрын
I will see how the Prime does this winter. The Gen3 went from 4.5 L/100KM to 5,5 in the winter due to need for heat. Great snow car though.
@flakeu
5 жыл бұрын
The Prime still has to kick the engine on if you want heat blowing inside since it does not have electric heating.
@SwarmAM
3 жыл бұрын
Interesting my ICE gets 22mpg year round but I didn't know that hybrids get theirs cut during winter.
@7777wertyu
3 жыл бұрын
What is ICE ?
@cliffordbradford8910
7 жыл бұрын
In such a cold location isn't there a block heater option or something similar?
@jettlash1000
7 жыл бұрын
I don't have one on mine, but it might be an option.
@daviebiggions6023
7 жыл бұрын
was very informative TY , just gave another reason to buy the chevy VOLT instead
@onionpie52
7 жыл бұрын
Just what I wanted to know! thanks.
@JohnSmith-ug5ci
6 жыл бұрын
Have you kept a running record for a year to show what the average MPG would be for a year?
@jettlash1000
6 жыл бұрын
No I haven’t. I was going to set up an Automatic Pro to track it for me, but it ended up on the wife’s car.
@petedavis8701
7 жыл бұрын
Very informative Thanks
@christiansonnenberg6306
5 жыл бұрын
I don't know how you made 77mpg. I bought a Prius V in May last year and the best result i came up with was 60mpg with a driving style as ecologically as possible.
@nickhahn5412
5 жыл бұрын
Try to work on techniques. Using the battery as often as possible, driving strategically.
@baymagic
3 жыл бұрын
Bought 2005 prius about 6 months ago, I thought I could save some money on gas, but it did not turn out that way. I barely could go 350km per tank in winter. Our other car which is Pontiac make it better than Prius in winter. We now do not see minus days in Canada, but still disappointing cuz it cannot go more than 550km per tank now. Another downsize is that stuck all the time in winter no more Prius not even new one.
@RealStraightTruthBroadcast
6 жыл бұрын
Hello how many miles will you get in the city if you are delivering pizza? Will this vehicle save you money if you are only driving city miles?
@jettlash1000
6 жыл бұрын
I have seen up to 100 mpg in the city in perfect conditions.
@BruceD-vn5rg
7 жыл бұрын
other words once the hybrid battery temperature is over 45 degrees you will get normal mpg
@jettlash1000
7 жыл бұрын
That seems to be my experience so far.
@BruceD-vn5rg
7 жыл бұрын
same here in my pruis
@psychiatry-is-eugenics
3 жыл бұрын
wonder how many miles are driven for no reason other than to check gas mileage , or schittes and giggles , or whatever ?
@jonny-mj5jl
10 ай бұрын
33mpg in 37 degrees normal? heater full blast
@ogdumplings8196
3 жыл бұрын
warm it up in garage and then it won't shut off when its cold outside
@StellsBellz
7 жыл бұрын
what model prius is this?
@MyIronman8
5 жыл бұрын
It's stupid that the gas motors tied to the transmission. Why don't they just have the motor connect to the charger so the only time at the motor runs is when it's charging the battery and have the Prius only use electric motor
@aspecreviews
4 жыл бұрын
The "power-split" eCVT is actually more efficient than a series hybrid layout (engine only spinning generator).
@MrGtopper
Жыл бұрын
What did you get to replace it ?
@jettlash1000
Жыл бұрын
We're in a Kia Sedona now. We had 3 car seats and couldn't make the Prius work. That new Sienna is quite intriguing.
@nathanreid2974
4 жыл бұрын
have you still got the prius?
@jettlash1000
4 жыл бұрын
No, I had to sell it due to our family growing.
@nathanreid2974
Жыл бұрын
@@jettlash1000 you should try the 2023 prius
@leadnsteel
6 жыл бұрын
You have the climate controls on. It wont do ev mode unless its turned off. This is what is stupid about this car is not being able to use heat or ac during ev mode. I'm hesitating on getting one because Im in Canada and our winters are cold, so it would kill the mgs using the heater all the time.
@MikeHunt-il3if
5 жыл бұрын
leadnsteel - Especially when you have 2.5 months of summer and the rest is cold weather even when it’s Fall Season it’s super chilly and temperatures from 0 to -3 but in winter we obviously have -15 to -30 that’s without windchill. 8 months of cold weather would definitely ruin mileage and potentially you could buy a nicer car that looks better for cheaper
@spiralw6881
7 жыл бұрын
Where do you live? It's so cold there!
@jettlash1000
7 жыл бұрын
Wisconsin. Brrrr
@pangrac1
2 жыл бұрын
👍
@psychiatry-is-eugenics
3 жыл бұрын
every vehicle should have a 120 volt plug to keep the fluids , and battery above 32 degrees
@gomusicproduction1
7 жыл бұрын
What gasoline you use? 87 Regular?
@jettlash1000
7 жыл бұрын
Yes, 87.
@aujla7564
7 жыл бұрын
jettlash1000 actually mpg drop is about 25% if stored indoors at about 32/0 ° f/c
@jettlash1000
7 жыл бұрын
I would agree with that. This test was closer to 50% because of the drastic temperature difference.
@aujla7564
7 жыл бұрын
jettlash1000 yup even gas powered cars have the ~15% drop, 2% is due to winter fuel, rest is warming up and efficent temperature operation
@joshhhab
3 жыл бұрын
you have to install electric engine preheater to avoid it
@MrGtopper
Жыл бұрын
Hi , I am in wi. Are you thinking of selling your Prius.
@jettlash1000
Жыл бұрын
It's been sold for awhile now.
@voltecrules624
7 жыл бұрын
My 2014 Volt has a Lifetime mpg of 140 mpg after driving 67,000 miles. My friends Volt has a Lifetime mpg of 246 mpg after driving 13,000 miles.
@layziebone2152
7 жыл бұрын
Is that just on gas? What is the MPGe for the cost/use of electric?
@voltecrules624
7 жыл бұрын
layziebone2152 The Volt is primarily an EV, not a typical hybrid. In a typical month I drive about 1,700 miles, 300 of which are on gas. I charge for free at work, and at home my electric bill did not go up because I went on the Southern California Edison EV car plan. So basically, I don't pay anything for electricity, or put another way, 80% of my driving costs me nothing. My friend charges free at home using solar and free at work. It took her 7 months before she had to put gas in her Volt after she bought it. MPGe mikes is deceptive since most Volt owners drive on all electricity, no gas.
@layziebone2152
7 жыл бұрын
I was mostly curious what the electric consumption is. Out here, sure you can have an EV but you'll be paying $0.12/kWh. That;s actually not all that bad, I have heard of areas where it is $0.65/kWh which is insane!
@voltecrules624
7 жыл бұрын
layziebone2152 In California on the SCE EV plan I believe from 10 pm to 6 am it's 10 cents a KWh. I sent my washer, coffee pot, and dishwasher to turn on during that time, this my electric bill is the same as it was before. I bought my electric car. The cost per kWh during the day is higher, but I don't use electricity then. Weekends are usually off peak prices. So it usually would cost $1.20 to get 44 mile range for me. It is a 16 kw battery, but it's never fully depleted when I arrive home. That said, my electric bill was $100 before I bought the Volt, and it's $100 after I bought the Volt....so does it really cost $1.20, nope. Look up Plugshare to find charging stations. Many are free. You can see around you or your work if EV makes sense. For me, no maintenance, very few trips to the gas station, full power at zero rpm all make an EV right for me. Good luck.
@voltecrules624
7 жыл бұрын
layziebone2152 sorry it's early and I should have proof read before sending. Spelling grammar, etc..
@thesurvivalist.
6 жыл бұрын
The battery has to heat up in order to function right
@jettlash1000
6 жыл бұрын
I want to say the ideal temp is about 72 degrees.
@John-km2uw
6 жыл бұрын
Intriguing. I think i'll buy one...j
@ademgun2329
4 жыл бұрын
Depend on how to drive what you drive and weather 😎
@Divineloll11
5 жыл бұрын
What kind of sunglasses do you have ? Haha
@jettlash1000
5 жыл бұрын
New ones every few months. I get the cheapest I can find. They are always off brand.
@rickhoward5889
7 жыл бұрын
search Prius c grill block on youtube; you will get back bunch of your losses
@scorpinock2
7 жыл бұрын
They should produce heater for the EV system like a block heater.
@aujla7564
7 жыл бұрын
scorpinock2 better to use a large tank of heated liquid around batteries as insulators
@danwat1234
7 жыл бұрын
Yup should have liquid heating and cooling, especially for their plugin hybrid model (Prime). So the battery would be at the right temperature just by leaving it plugged in.
@NoShadowOfDoubt1
7 жыл бұрын
the gas engine stayed on because you had the heater on, ....not because it mainly was cold
@aujla7564
7 жыл бұрын
you likely get 50 mpg if it was parked indoors
@jettlash1000
7 жыл бұрын
I park indoors, and I'm sure it helps a little, but the engine starts immediately regardless.
@peterbattle5702
7 жыл бұрын
Dude sounds like a heavy metal concert in there... Why would anyone pay for that type of noise????
@jettlash1000
7 жыл бұрын
It is a little louder in the winter when the engine is warming up.
@peterbattle5702
7 жыл бұрын
i meant while driving, all the road noise... lol sorry i was drinking last night...and tonight lol. in the summer you getting about 70mpg? In a previouse life i was a mechanic and some customers Prius would be getting like 67mpg.
@eddieanderson9399
7 жыл бұрын
why are you wearing gloves... you're inside your car lol... doesn't the heat work?
@jettlash1000
7 жыл бұрын
Shooting video usually means getting in and out of the car a lot. In freezing temps, the fingers get cold.
@eddieanderson9399
3 жыл бұрын
@@arachosia I guess not. If u have them on its probably for good reason. I'd eventually take them off though when driving.
@mickeydrago9401
5 жыл бұрын
Now I REALLY see how overpriced the Prius has been! Wow... Of course living in Florida I should not have this problem...
@Marmocet
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. In the winter, his Prius only gets three times the fuel economy of his other vehicle. What a rip off.
@mickeydrago9401
5 жыл бұрын
@@Marmocet Look what you have to pay upfront to even get a used one... Do the math... So I'm not only convinced that you should only get a Prius if you do a lot of driving but also only get a used one and south of Interstate 10 ;)
@mickeydrago9401
5 жыл бұрын
@@Marmocet It is a rip-off and still hype...
@mickeydrago9401
5 жыл бұрын
@@Marmocet Even electric cars have a bad reputation if they run off of coal firing plant electricity because the most efficient cost benefit analysis for energy production is same site production and usage like having a space heater instead of a central air unit... A window unit can cut your electricity bill in half... So even hybrids have problems but I can appreciate gas generating electricity for the battery... As to the comparison of his other vehicle I suggest you look at the weight and what a hybrid vehicle would do at that size and weight...
@mickeydrago9401
5 жыл бұрын
@@Marmocet Just looked up brand new Nissan versas and Priuses, the Prius is $10,000+ more... Imagine how far $10,000 in gas could go... The Prius will get about 20 miles more per gallon, even better in the city... At $2.50 a gallon $10,000 worth of gas is 4000 gallons and with all City driving that is well over a hundred and twenty thousand miles... So imagine an X & Y axis and the crossover lines of when it would be worth it for a Prius compared to a Nissan Versa, of course it depends on how much you drive but it might well be 10-15 years into your purchase to be worth it with a Prius... And then you have another car anyway...
@sirjim777777
7 жыл бұрын
Nice Video.... Hey.... Your late for work. ahhah....
@furiousfragment7082
5 жыл бұрын
We won't come to your work place or Home :P
@mwood65
6 жыл бұрын
Duhhh
@MrCullencancer
7 жыл бұрын
Fuel in winter time is also a factor. Along with heat setting and outside temperature.
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