Anyone that becomes a believer has humbled themselves like a child, asking for forgiveness 🙌🏾💖
@alexandernorman5337
18 күн бұрын
Proverbs 26:12 It's pointless to debate people like him.
@terranceburgess9170
16 күн бұрын
It pointless to debate the word
@user-vy8jh3fp7n
18 күн бұрын
No he won't take his channel down.stop feeling threatened and stand on your grounds. People want to hear what Corey is saying. Corey your wife is a wise humble woman.🙌🏾💖
@jermaineowsley7749
17 күн бұрын
My Brutha In Christ Corey, you are doing a fantastic job defending the truth of the Gospel, especially on this topic. Keep on keeping on!
@Sheep0417_
18 күн бұрын
Maybe the other gentleman is an agent trying to get brother Corey to grow hair out of frustration. Lol
@TTN4life
18 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@PrayingMoth
19 күн бұрын
When the Holy Spirit lives within you, you are sealed till the day of redemption.
@Hakeem597
18 күн бұрын
AMEN!!!
@bzo195
18 күн бұрын
So the question is , does that mean you can live the way you want?
@I-AM-BELIEVER
18 күн бұрын
@@bzo195 The real question is what is the role of the Holy Spirit once it lives within us?
@danniequesenberry9951
18 күн бұрын
Unless you..... Backslide.......GOD DONT MAKE ANYBODY STAY SAVED
@danniequesenberry9951
18 күн бұрын
@@I-AM-BELIEVER THE HOLY SPIRIT IS A TEACHER......A GUIDE IN ALL THINGS.......
@TTN4life
18 күн бұрын
He's got an argumentative spirit! Before I was saved, I would do the same. Corey is clearly proving him wrong. Yet he still argues. 🤦🙏🏾
@matthewalston1226
18 күн бұрын
We can see the sarcastic pride in AK's eyes... the expression on his face is that of Solidified Pride💁
@andreadilorenzo_
16 күн бұрын
The eyes say it all, indeed.
@BriannaColeman-oe9sn
18 күн бұрын
The battle of the carnal man and the spirit filled man 😂. Corey u r very humble and patient!!
@nessakay02
18 күн бұрын
Those who've sat in churches that teach that one can lose their salvation have a hard time understanding that we can not. I was one of those who fought tooth and nail until I kept listening to the other side points. I had to trust the text and not what I was taught as a child in church. Thats the key, I believe, with a lot of saints who have a hard time believing OSAS. Trust the text!!! If you are sheep, you are SEALED by the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption.
@gizmetdoralopez6806
13 күн бұрын
I was there once too!
@revrenz316
16 күн бұрын
Corey I love the what you said in closing about the confidence and the love for Christ because that’s exactly how it made me feel once I changed my mind. I am a pastor and always believed that we can loose our salvation.
@adebolas5731
18 күн бұрын
I think this verse support Corey point (1 JOHN 2:19 - They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they were of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, so that it would be manifested that they all are not of us.)
@catholictruth102
18 күн бұрын
The verses immediately beforehand show that this is speaking of antichrists. Not sure why you’d think then that this generalizes to everyone.
@catholictruth102
17 күн бұрын
The context there shows it’s speaking of the antichrists.
@bobthrasher8226
7 күн бұрын
So you think this means that people can't leave the faith for other reasons? In other words, the only reason people "leave" is because they were never believers in the first place?
@catholictruth102
7 күн бұрын
@@bobthrasher8226 That’s what they believe despite all the scripture teaching otherwise. Like Luke 8:13, etc.
@joannacarlson9481
18 күн бұрын
The promise of everlasting life is inherent in the Gospel. Once we are secure in the Father’s, the Son’s, and sealed by His Spirit, we serve Him because we are saved, not to be saved or to stay saved.
@catholictruth102
18 күн бұрын
Unbiblical.
@SJ-0044
18 күн бұрын
If we can loose our salvation how would we know when it is lost and how do we know when we get it back. What role then does the Holy Spirit play if we can loose it.
@oluwasegunoriola9834
18 күн бұрын
We know when salvation is lost when the works are not evident. James 2:14-26.
@catholictruth102
18 күн бұрын
You’d know it’s lost because you committed a serious sin.
@kgar5String
18 күн бұрын
@@catholictruth102 Oh boy
@kgar5String
18 күн бұрын
@@oluwasegunoriola9834 So you are saved by works?
@BriannaColeman-oe9sn
18 күн бұрын
@@oluwasegunoriola9834u r kidding me right?
@christianuniversalist
18 күн бұрын
Works based salvation is actually not doing the works Christ asks us to do for others because it’s ME focused (my salvation, my rightness, my whatever)
@josiahpulemau6214
18 күн бұрын
BUT…..salvation is based on a work that HE did on our behalf and the fruits of that is evident in those who He has called from “before the foundations of the earth.” (Eph 1:4-6; Romans 8:28-30). John 10:27-28 NASB95 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; [28] and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand.
@kgar5String
18 күн бұрын
We get what we believe about God and salvation from the scripture, we should not just make up something. Ephesians 2:8-9 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. The description the bible gives of working for salvation is if you can boast (Say you did it)
@catholictruth102
18 күн бұрын
Jesus judged people based on their works (whether or not they cared for the least) in the parable of the sheep and goats (Matthew 25:31-46).
@christianuniversalist
17 күн бұрын
@catholictruth102 It is we who judge ourselves, Christ is pure mercy. (John 12:47)
@catholictruth102
17 күн бұрын
@@christianuniversalist No, Jesus judged based on works. Matthew 25:31-46.
@TimothyC.84
19 күн бұрын
It seems that he wants his preferred doctrine to be right rather than to get right with the proper doctrine.
@icemanred
18 күн бұрын
Agreed. And for him to say that to him it doesn't matter one way or the other, he sure was vested in arguing his point and not being willing to listen to the context of what Corey was saying. You know what they say.. Some people listen to hear others listen for their time to talk and never hear what was said.
@catholictruth102
18 күн бұрын
OSAS is not proper doctrine.
@BriannaColeman-oe9sn
18 күн бұрын
@@catholictruth102 even though it's proven right over and over? Hard head it's only doing u harm not us, knowing we are forever kept by our Father!! Is what makes us happy and less stressed
@catholictruth102
17 күн бұрын
@@BriannaColeman-oe9sn It’s not proven at all. In fact it’s a demonic scheme which no Christian should believe.
@Jamie-Russell-CME
17 күн бұрын
OSAS is not the gospel
@johnmorton6675
19 күн бұрын
Amen. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life. I believe that after a person makes the choice to accept Jesus, accept the Gospel, and accept that Jesus died and was raised from the dead 3 days later, has eternal life. If a person sins after that they are still saved but they should seek repentance to get themselves realigned in God's grace. The whole belief of losing salvation is not biblical. The righteous man will fall 7 times. We fail God every day, by thought, by breath, by action, and the only unforgivable sin is the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Jesus will leave the 99 sheep to go after the 1 that wondered because his sheep are always his sheep. No one is beyond saving unless they continually reject Jesus and God to the point of death. Then it will be too late. I pray everyone who sees this video accepts and follows Jesus while there is still time.
@Hakeem597
18 күн бұрын
Not "Accepting" the gospel, but believing the gospel and through confession; "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation." (Romans 10:9-10). Simon the Sorcerer heard and professed the gospel or "accepted it" but was not saved...his heart was not right and he actually had the gospel preached to him. Conversely, opposed to an emotional experience whereby some think they are "saved". This latter is the same tactic a lot of churches use with the "call to the front". They tell people to accept Jesus in their heart...then have them fill out a card in a back room somewhere or maybe talk to some counselor (in some cases) and then tell them "Congratulations, you're saved". But if you ask many of those folks what the Gospel is and what does salvation mean, they could not tell you. They are only their as a result of emotional agitation and not as a result of gospel proclamation....
@nymeria7239
18 күн бұрын
*AMEN!!!*
@arielflyer6113
18 күн бұрын
@@Hakeem597 AMEN!!!
@catholictruth102
18 күн бұрын
The entire NT teaches loss of salvation.
@johnmorton6675
18 күн бұрын
@catholictruth102 where does it teach loss of salvation? If salvation can be lost, does that make John 3:16 false?
@daughtersofdeborah9532
19 күн бұрын
Thought you did a great job Corey ❤
@betsylynnvedrine3784
16 күн бұрын
Always
@josiahpulemau6214
18 күн бұрын
If one could lose their salvation, then much of scripture makes no sense at all. You did a great job brotha Corey!
@catholictruth102
18 күн бұрын
It’s the opposite.
@huey7437
16 күн бұрын
You need to realize your conflation of 'losing' salvation with 'forfeiting' salvation... You need to realize this mistake to at least engage the point of disagreement in the debate, bcuz you're simply barking into wind otherwise
@Risingphoenix371
15 күн бұрын
So now we have Christians in the internet debating the word of God. How is this soul winning? Please tell me because I’m utterly confused by this foolishness.
@tronaristocrat7965
19 күн бұрын
I just don't understand why people refuse to believe Jesus our God.
@slimdude2011
19 күн бұрын
It's the times that we're living in. Even Jesus own people didn't believe that He was our Savior, and they've rejected Him.
@tronaristocrat7965
19 күн бұрын
@@slimdude2011 your right ! It's just so startling how fast it's happening!
@catholictruth102
18 күн бұрын
Jesus certainly did not preach OSAS.
@demetriushall1810
18 күн бұрын
@@catholictruth102 He clearly did . All who belongs to Him. (If Jesus saves you through his finished work then you will always be saved ) because if His grace and faith , trust a dependency on him (: He gives eternal life now. You are holy , blameless, set apart . He’s our judge and mediator .
@catholictruth102
18 күн бұрын
@@demetriushall1810 Jesus Himself taught that branches in Him (which signifies believers) can be cut off if they don’t produce fruit. *John 15:1-2* “I am the true vine, and my Father is the vinedresser. Every branch in me that does not bear fruit he takes away, and every branch that does bear fruit he prunes, that it may bear more fruit.”
@Director2024
18 күн бұрын
After a while, a dead horse is just a dead horse. No need to keep beating it.
@ibsircole8427
19 күн бұрын
Let God be true, and every human being a liar. As it is written: “So that you may be proved right when you speak, and prevail when you judge.” Romans 3:4.......Numbers 23:19" God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it?" 1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints."
@danniequesenberry9951
19 күн бұрын
Yes .......and cnfusion is from the devil........we are living in a world full of confusion.......and getting worse.......
@danniequesenberry9951
19 күн бұрын
That guy goes back to the old fall back on........to try to support their once saved always saved thinking.......well..... if they fall back.........backslide........well they just say they werent really saved to begin with.........my my my
@danniequesenberry9951
19 күн бұрын
ONCE YOU GET SAVED YOU ARE ALWAYS SAVED .........AS LONG AS YOU ARE SAVED........
@danniequesenberry9951
19 күн бұрын
My opinion is this .......DONT BE CONCERNED ABOUT ALL THIS SCHOLARISTIC INTELLECTUAL MESS ........IN MY OPINION CAUSING CONFUSION.......STICK WITH THE HOLY BIBLE THAT WE ALREADY .......IT HAS ALREADY BEEN TRANSLATED FOR OUR SALVATION.......PLAIN AND SIMPLE
@danniequesenberry9951
19 күн бұрын
Absolutely ........you will never perish .......as Gods word says........but GOD GIVES US ENOUGH COMMOM SENSE TO KNOW THAT WE CAN BACKSLIDE..........THE WORD BACKSLIDING IN MY OPINION........WOULD HAVE NO REASON FOR BEI G IN GODS WORD........IF YOU COULDNT BACKSLIDE AFTER BEING SAVED.........YOU HAVE TO SAVED........OR YOU CANNOT BACKSLIDE........COMMON SENSE.......
@I-AM-BELIEVER
19 күн бұрын
I don’t care what anyone says! You will never disprove OSAS. Those who believe opposite are those who place their salvation in their own hands.
@heyhow9572
19 күн бұрын
Amen John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
@nowyouunderstand117
19 күн бұрын
Amen
@williamverdell8856
19 күн бұрын
Betcha u will care when the church begins to go thru the seven year period, and u were told u would be pre trib raptured.
@williamverdell8856
19 күн бұрын
Corey it's the same way I feel about telling u the church will go thru the seven year period. But my time will come, and u will be the guy that's getting talked about for teaching revelation wrong.
@Torah411
19 күн бұрын
Endure to the end - will be saved. So obviously You are not currently saved according to the word.
@randydickinson4864
19 күн бұрын
If you know his response is already stayed with email and talking before, then it's a waste of time to argue. His mind is closed, so let him go.
@caryt59
19 күн бұрын
People like this, argue as if they are HOPING that salvation can be lost, just for the sake of being seen as "right"!!
@BrandonAsbury
18 күн бұрын
Because it can be does he know you ??? You keep feast Torah like Paul Messiah said if not you might be in trouble
@matthewalston1226
18 күн бұрын
@@BrandonAsburywhat is wrong with you? 🤦
@danniequesenberry9951
18 күн бұрын
Thats stupid.......people just need to know the truth........so they wont stipidly sin their soul into hell.....believing the lies of satan......
@KCRookie
18 күн бұрын
No one is hoping salvation can be lost BUT it is a fact that we can forfeit salvation by not continuing in the path by the grace of Jesus our Lord
@I-AM-BELIEVER
18 күн бұрын
@@KCRookie show me in Scripture where we can forfeit our salvation? The premise of that statement is implying we save ourselves. Salvation is a gift that is acquired. If the gift is acquired how can you then lose it from the one who is supposed to be saving you? Wouldn’t that make Yah untruthful?
@bobthrasher8226
7 күн бұрын
Could you link to the discussion referenced?
@dwaynesmith5406
15 күн бұрын
St. Matthew 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. St. Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
@Hakeem597
19 күн бұрын
Isn’t perishing synonymous with leaving God? To be away from God is to be alienated from God…alienation from God is death? So if the sheep leave, that is the same as perishing which would mean that they can’t?
@darthnocturnis3941
16 күн бұрын
No.
@Hakeem597
13 күн бұрын
@@darthnocturnis3941 explain. How is alienation from God not death? And please use scripture.
@darthnocturnis3941
13 күн бұрын
@@Hakeem597 You are making a categorical fallacy: Yes, separation from God is referred to as death; but that is not always equivalent to the eternal death of a person who is not in Christ when their temporal life comes to an end. If you try to say that they are one and the same, then you must also concede that the elect are never born in sin.
@bobthrasher8226
7 күн бұрын
When you depart from the faith you are no longer his "sheep" and so leave behind the promises.
@user-vy8jh3fp7n
18 күн бұрын
Jesus said in Luke 23:43 (NIV), "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise. When did he become a sheep? The works on the cross speaks volumes and give great understanding 🙌🏾💖
@kgar5String
18 күн бұрын
That day, because that is when he believed.
@GiftofGod289
16 күн бұрын
@@kgar5Stringcorrect. The thief did no works. He simply believed and he was instantly and eternally saved forever.
@derrickpurdy7011
19 күн бұрын
I don't know what AK's issue is. Anyway, we can hope he comes around. Thanks for giving a mention to the Novum Testamentum Graece. I use it to look up the Greek in my BDAG. I recommend both works, in case there is someone who does not have them.
@catholictruth102
18 күн бұрын
The entire NT teaches loss of salvation.
@arnoldgarcia915
18 күн бұрын
Those who believe you can lose your salvation are prideful and believe they can save their selves or must do good in order to be save. I put my faith in Christ and him alone for my salvation I am a sinner with or without him but with him I am saved by grace and faith alone 💪🏾
@GiftofGod289
16 күн бұрын
Amen, my brother.
@bobthrasher8226
7 күн бұрын
Rom 2:6,7 say God will judge everyone according to their works. Jesus said the same in John 5:28,29
@user-vy8jh3fp7n
18 күн бұрын
Spot on Corey!🙌🏾💖
@Corinthians6
18 күн бұрын
“Depart from me I never knew you” would not hit the same / hold the same weight to a ‘former believer’ if one could just reply to Jesus “When I was a sheep you knew me and i knew you, your words not mine”
@smartchristians
18 күн бұрын
Jesus said "I NEVER knew you". He could have said I don't know you anymore, I used to know you, or even I don't know you. Instead He said I NEVER knew you.
@Corinthians6
18 күн бұрын
@@smartchristiansamen
@GiftofGod289
16 күн бұрын
@@smartchristiansamen. We are saved once and for all by belief in the Gospel at 1 Cor. 15:1-4. Nothing can take that salvation away. 1 John 5:13.
@felixquintana5784
17 күн бұрын
His comment about this guy being a Calvinist and this informing his interpretation of the Greek is definitely NOT stupid! It's the crux of the argument, because he brings calvinistic presuppositions to Jesus' statetment.
@JonClash
18 күн бұрын
Ugh. I’ve been working so much that I miss all the spicey debates
@henricorossouw2400
17 күн бұрын
I would really like to see a debate on this issue between you and Steve Gregg.
@suechapel1443
18 күн бұрын
😂 I'm your huckleberry! Doc Holliday on "Tombstone" ❤
@rontwyman9286
17 күн бұрын
Sheep or goat every soul will be judged by our father the creator.
@dragonfly10
18 күн бұрын
lovely !!!!
@knightrider1545
18 күн бұрын
Please make a video on your opinion of the church of christ please?
@jesselocklear2000
17 күн бұрын
As the Church is having debates, people are going to hell. We have bigger fish to fry. He called us to be fishermen of men. We would rather see the saved sanctified than the list saved. Trust the Spirit to teach the brethren, and if a brethren disagrees with you, there is a good chance you will not change their mind. May the grace of God give us eyes to see a bigger picture!!!
@kgar5String
17 күн бұрын
This is why you need to know what the word actually is saying, do you think God is missing out on sheep he could have because of us? Everyone who goes to hell deserves to be there because of the sin they committed and the rejection of Jesus.
@jesselocklear2000
16 күн бұрын
@kgar5String understand the churches purpose. The purpose of humanity physically is also what we do spiritually. Be fruitful multiply subdue replenish and exercise dominion. Whoever wants to set in a room and play theologian to me is watching the world go by. Get in this world and be a light. Let folks eat some fruit off your tree. The church in Acts was active, moving, demonstrating the power of God and the church multiplied.
@naeembourne2474
17 күн бұрын
Janet jackson said if you say that i'm wrong, then you better prove that you're right
@truevictory6618
18 күн бұрын
Do you believe in being Saved, Sanctified, and filled with the Holy Ghost? Or do you believe in a sinner’s prayer?
@AKRichardson
19 күн бұрын
Corey, you wanted me to find the video. Here it is: In your video with JP, you said, "the rule states you cannot later on walk away." The "rule" you are referring to is the emphatic negation. You know that you think the EN is sufficient to say the sheep will always be sheep (which it isn't). That is your logical inference from it. That is what you NEED for OSAS to be proven from it. That is what I and the scholars I provided refute. When you understand that, you will understand my point.
@andrewmiles2370
18 күн бұрын
Does the rule, in John 10:28, allow for any possibility of perishing for someone who has been given eternal life? In other words, is there any means or manner whatsoever that someone can go from being alive eternally, to not alive?
@andrewmiles2370
18 күн бұрын
Btw, Corey's argument is not that the EN alone proves his point.
@billramsey8845
18 күн бұрын
The sheep will not follow the voice of a stranger which means they will not walk away.
@alexandernorman5337
18 күн бұрын
@AKRichardson - If you believe that a saved person can lose their salvation then describe *the process* by which they can do so, using scripture that you think affirms that. After all, that would be the most important thing to know to avoid for all believers. Hebrews 7:23-28 depicts the perfection of Christ's priesthood, and how it covers all past, present, and future sins. If a believer's last act on earth is sinful - it's atoned for! And so sin cannot separate a believing one from God and Christ. And since he is still in Christ and still washed then he has the Holy Spirit. And as John 14:26 shows, He always teaches us and reminds us of Christ so that ignorance or bad teaching cannot lead us away from Christ. And so like John 14:16 affirms, He is with us forever. So future sin can't do it, and ignorance can't do it, and bad teaching can't do it. What can? There is a process affirmed in the word which affirms the OSAS view of John 10:27-30. Not to mention the text literally says it is impossible for the sheep to ever perish.
@AKRichardson
18 күн бұрын
@@andrewmiles2370 Yes by no longer believing. Adam and Eve had everlasting life before they sinned (because death was the result of sinning), but they lost it.
@thetygerpulpitwithpastorglenn
18 күн бұрын
Ya, I don't think you're in danger of losing your channel. You listen to enough of Richardson you might be in danger of losing your mind, but not your channel.
@interrupts165
18 күн бұрын
Best part of the video 1:45:31 to 1:48:00 Amen. All the good I do is Christ in me and all the bad I do is because I'm not worth more than $5 of dirt lol and that's on me. But thank God that I don't have to lean on myself to finish this race, I get to lean on Jesus the entire way.
@rontwyman9286
18 күн бұрын
Question. What does it mean to blasphemy the Holy Spirit, And is it possible? For a sheep to blasphemy The Holy Spirit?
@kgar5String
18 күн бұрын
No, Jesus said his sheep follow him and will not follow a stranger, Jesus all said his sheep was given to him from God and he will lose none that the father gave him. Jesus said it.
@DavidVictoriaReyes-xd9fj
16 күн бұрын
John 14:15, ““If you love Me, keep My commandments.”
@GiftofGod289
16 күн бұрын
Critically, that passage does not say, “if you want to be saved, keep my commandments.” Discipleship and salvation are different. How to be saved: Acts 16:30-31: “Sirs, what must I do to be saved? Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.”
@maleanewborn9073
18 күн бұрын
I am not too proud to admit that the majority of this conversation is above my head lol. Having said that, the man you were debating said something that i understood to be quite contradictory.
@kgar5String
18 күн бұрын
It is always that way until you get more understanding.
@destroyingtheworksofthedev9349
16 күн бұрын
Corey ---- "The scholar just said I was absolutely correct about John 10:27-28" AK ---- "Well he's a Calvinist" Corey ---- "How can they listen to another voice if they always flee a stranger?" AK ---- "Well now you're just appealing to context" 😂
@bibleprophecy4400
19 күн бұрын
So really the question is, who are the real sheep. Maybe that’s the problem?
@smartchristians
19 күн бұрын
That is the real question
@williamverdell8856
19 күн бұрын
When u ask who are the real sheep to me u are saying u don't know what makes a person a child of God. U first need to understand how to test the Spirit of a person and 1 John 4:1-3 tells u how to do exactly that try the spirit of an individual to see if the Spirit of God is in them, if the Spirit of God is in them they are born again, this is how u try the spirit of a man.
@JesusIsLord777-lz7mg
19 күн бұрын
@@smartchristiansBorn again believers. All fall aways from the parable of the sower are unregenerated, not sealed.
@JesusIsLord777-lz7mg
19 күн бұрын
@smartchristians Will be saved. Future, passive, indicative. If someone enters by Him, He is a sheep, He Will BE SAVED. It's not of our own doing(active). John 10:9 NKJV [9] I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.
@bibleprophecy4400
19 күн бұрын
@@JesusIsLord777-lz7mg oh I agree, I was just saying that’s probably why the other guy didn’t agree. I’m reading commentary on Romans 4 from Logos, I highly recommend reading it. Being raised Catholic I have to really push myself to Not rely on myself and learn to just Trust Him, I want to be perfect Now and honestly should be a lot more than I am now. Oh how I wish we had these tools back in the 80’s. Take advantage of them while you can, I don’t know how much longer they’ll be available. But thank God Jesus said my words will never pass away. 😉🙏
@user-mv5cr6qf3s
18 күн бұрын
I'm watching the replay. And the thing that i get from those people is they are trying to find why evil, mistakes , wrongdoings and just bad people be good one day and bad the next. Because if God give choices & forgiveness why would the " world" be temping... as if sin doesn't confuse with conflict. The difference would be the heart, trust and belief. The Faith
@user-zw9cz6bi8m
12 күн бұрын
Cory, you believe one save. I always say it's okay. Somebody believe Different? You can agree to disagree, it's okay. Titus, chapter 3 verse 9. And second Timothy, 2 verse 23. Stop getting your Self all worked up. God bless you. Love you, brother, Corey.🙂
@MoweezyTheStreetPreacher
17 күн бұрын
People like this are mostly those who study and never come to fully understand God on a deeper level
@TheKwill32
17 күн бұрын
Here is the deal if you can walk away like AK is implying. As soon as u walk away u perish making Jesus’ words false
@easttexan2933
18 күн бұрын
Corey, I understand your point, but what I don't understand is the necessity of all the warnings about abiding in Him, falling away, if ye continue, don't draw back, be cut off for unbelief, whose house we are if we continue, etc. What would be the point of these warnings? This is what I struggle with. And sometimes you do not see the forest (truth) because of the trees (worldly knowledge) especially when it comes to the rapture/resurrection. The sheep will be raised when? the last day (John 6:40). Not prior to tribulation. That is not the last day.
@kgar5String
18 күн бұрын
The New Testament contains several warning passages. Some are clearly warnings about the dangers of false teachings and false teachers. Others alert believers to the reality of trials or warn of end-times events. Yet there are several passages that warn Christians about their own behavior, and some seem to imply a loss of salvation for the disobedient. In light of the doctrine of eternal security, how are these warning passages to be understood? Some New Testament warning passages are aimed at those who are part of the visible church but who do not truly know Christ. Such are the warnings in the epistle to the Hebrews. The author of Hebrews directs some of his statements to mere professors who are not actually saved (see Hebrews 6:4-6 and Hebrews 10:26). The target audience of these passages is unbelievers who are associated with the church and have been exposed to God’s redemptive truth-perhaps they’ve even made a profession of faith-but they have not exercised genuine saving faith. If they continue to reject Christ, they will be lost forever. Other warning passages teach (by implication) the doctrine of the perseverance of the saints; that is, those who are truly born again will not deny the gospel or forsake Christ. First Corinthians 15:1-2 is one such passage: “I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.” Paul’s proviso “If you hold firmly to the word” is simply his way of saying that everyone who has truly believed in Christ will hold on to the end. Those who are false professors of the faith, who are Christians in name only, will eventually be swayed from the gospel through the attacks of the unbelieving world (see 1 Timothy 1:19-20). Paul’s statement “Otherwise, you have believed in vain” in 1 Corinthians 15:2 can be understood in one of two ways. First, it could be that Paul is speaking rhetorically, putting forward a hypothetical statement concerning the truth of the gospel. The message he preached would save them-unless the message was false. The New Living Translation brings out this meaning: “Unless, of course, you believed something that was never true in the first place.” In the rest of the chapter, Paul emphasizes the fact of the resurrection and the reliability of his message. Second, Paul could be contrasting true belief, which results in salvation, with mere intellectual assent or an emotional reaction, which is worthless to save a soul. In this case, Paul is warning professing Christians not to be like the stony ground or the thorny ground in Jesus’ parable (see Matthew 13:1-23). Jesus gave a warning to false professors in Matthew 7:21-23: “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’” Even many religious people who claim to serve God do not truly know the Lord. The matter of salvation is of utmost importance, and many New Testament warning passages are meant to cause professed believers to examine themselves to ensure they truly have put their faith in Christ (see 2 Corinthians 13:5). Other New Testament passages warn believers against various sins. These warnings do not relate to salvation but to God’s work of sanctification in the lives of believers. Believers have been set free from slavery to sin and are cautioned to stand firm in that freedom (Galatians 5:1; Philippians 2:12-13). The book of Revelation contains several warnings regarding sinful behavior in the seven churches. In those churches, the sins of theological compromise, immorality, apathy, and pride had to be dealt with. Scripture teaches that we can know we are saved: “I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life” (1 John 5:13). Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith (Hebrews 12:2), and God will finish the work He began in us (Philippians 1:6). Believers are called to live in holiness, and false professors of faith are called to repent and trust in Christ for salvation. The need for believers to avoid sin and the need for false converts to stop pretending necessitate the warning passages of Scripture.
@JC-gu2rn
15 күн бұрын
“If you could lose your salvation, you would. How arrogant do you have to be to say “yeah I could lose my salvation, but I haven’t yet” ? You probably just did.”
@johnwilson156
18 күн бұрын
Jesus said in John 8:31 to those which believed on Him, if ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed. I believe that His sheep will continue and sadly those who are not won't.
@catholictruth102
18 күн бұрын
He also said branches in Him that don’t produce fruit will be cut off (John 15:1-2). One cannot be in Christ if they’re an unbeliever, so this is clearly speaking of believers.
@GiftofGod289
16 күн бұрын
Discipleship and salvation are separate concepts. One is hard and costly, one is easy and free.
@catholictruth102
16 күн бұрын
@@GiftofGod289 No, they're the same. To be saved you must be His disciple.
@GiftofGod289
16 күн бұрын
@@catholictruth102 heresy. The only requirement for salvation is belief alone. Acts 16:30-31, John 3:16, John 3:36, Eph. 2:8-9, Titus 3:5.
@catholictruth102
16 күн бұрын
@GiftofGod289 That’s false and unscriptural. And nowhere do any of those verses say “belief alone.” *1 John 2:4* “Whoever says “I know him” but does not keep his commandments *is a liar,* and the truth is not in him,” *Revelation 21:8* “But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, *and all liars,* their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”
@nowfaithis9799
14 күн бұрын
Saying a sheep can perish IF they stop being sheep IMPLIES they were once sheep. You can't stop being something if you weren't first said thing. Hence, people who say you can stop being sheep are indeed stating a sheep can perish...that's contradictory to what Jesus specifically says. I don't get why that's missed by them.
@bobthrasher8226
7 күн бұрын
Problem is you don't know if you are a sheep - until the Judgement. Some who were convinced they were sheep are no longer following the Shepherd. So OSAS is an academic argument. You might as well assume you can lose your salvation since you have to Persevere anyways.
@thomascollison9879
16 күн бұрын
Hi Corey, I agree with you completely: Once saved, always saved. In John 10:28-29 NKJV The double negative in Greek is emphatic, 'Ou Mei,' No no, never ever. Hebrews 6:4 NKJV is a misinterpretation of scripture. This book was written to people with a Jewish tradition, if they come to enlightenment and then return their darkness, it is impossible to bring them back to repentance. 1 Corinthians 1:22 NKJV The darkness these people are returning to is Judaism. On the day of crucifixion, the Holy Spirit left the Holy of Holies and returned to the Father. No miracles in Judaism now, so unsaved Jews were coming to Christian services to gain enlightenment and then go back to their darkness. Salvation is a process but more of a process for Jews because they had about 3,500 years of the law. Since they didn't come to repentance, only enlightenment, they were unsaved at the time of the verse. You can't lose what you never had. What we need to do is look at the doctrine as a whole because that will also assist in Greek interptetation. Its not ignorance in the Greek or dishonesty. Limited Atonement is a teaching of Calvinism (T.U.L.I.P.), he is reading the Greek with Calvin's theological worldview of Christ's limited finished work. This is a false teaching. Christ said 'It is finished.' 'Tetelestai' Paid in Full.' All our salvation is paid for full. My bodily redemption will be fully realized at the Pretribulation Resurrection Rapture but fully paid for at the cross. I don't hold to Calvinism or Arminianism for that matter. My doctrine of Soteriology: "Christus Victor." The victory of Christ. Is this A.K a Jehovah's Witness? He interjects like a trained Jehovah's Witness. And if he is, he is using a Greek English lexicon (purple people eater), that was published by two high school graduates. Because they believe salvation is possible through Christ's ransom but they must repent and call on Jehovah. Salvation is a free gift but is unattainable without good works that are prompted by faith. This is conditional or limited atonement. In Hebrews it says 'Christ's once for all sacrifice.' This is referring to atonement for all mankind, requiring repentance. It also means past, present and future tense, His sacrifice means our sin, past, present and future sin His sacrifice for ALL our sin. We achieve this by His gift of righteousness and justification by grace through faith. I hold to once saved, always saved is a biblically, sound teaching.
@EricWheeler-rz5cy
19 күн бұрын
Speaking of linguistics, translations, or transliterations in today's day and age there's software available to help anyone with that and a lot of its free. Now as far as getting a scholar goes the truth of a matter would simply be the truth regardless of accolades. Here's what a PHD having Scholar told me once," the first person to ever receive a degree, got it from someone who didn't have one," Now I'm not anti edification and accolades but ,"knowledge puffs up but love builds up". Shalom!!!
@926paaja
18 күн бұрын
Exactly … and it is the Holy Spirit that opens our eyes to the scriptures and teaches us … How did all the people in the ages before come to salvation without the apps and books and translations ?! So silly
@andrefranklin2311
18 күн бұрын
I mentioned this on the channel that this video was originally on so I’ll say it here as well Cory, I believe you misunderstood what AK’s argument was, either that or you didn’t want to see it because he agreed with you that the sheep will never perish, but his argument was that your inference of (the sheep will never perish means that the sheep will never fall away is faulty) and at first I didn’t get it but after really listening and trying to understand his point this is what it was and what I agree with. I don’t think you handled the debate well, especially when you weren’t simply answering his yes and no questions, which I thought looked bad. I don’t think either side WON the debate per se, but I think AK handled himself better simply because when he asked you clear questions you answered it in a round about way, but when you asked him questions he answered them responsively and without hesitation.
@smartchristians
18 күн бұрын
If the possibility of sheep ever perishing is eliminated (according to the Grammar) Then if someone were to bring up the possibility of sheep walking away, or stop believing, then those possibilities are also negated. When Jesus says it's "Impossible" then it is Impossible, no matter what or how many scenarios you come up with. I understood his arguments well. He simply doesn't understand what the greek is saying. Jesus already described what His sheep will do and how they will behave. There is no room to state Jesus was wrong and sheep will stop following.
@andrefranklin2311
18 күн бұрын
@@smartchristians Thanks for responding Cory, appreciate it sir. I just want to say that I agree with you 100%, it was actually your exposition of the Old Testament atonement system and how Jesus fulfills the system fully that shot my tradition through the foot and blew up what I had been taught for the entirety of my life. I agree that the verse and contextually all of John 10 shows and states how the sheep will respond and act and the state of the sheep. There is no argument to be had against it. So to clarify are you saying that the Greek double negative that strongly shows that the sheep will not perish ALSO states and/or implies that the sheep will also not fall away? I don’t know Greek, not yet anyway, on my seminary journey, but anyway, is that what the Greek means in this instance: not only that the sheep will not perish, but also that they will not fall away or turn away or walk away?
@bobthrasher8226
7 күн бұрын
I agree with you about AK's straightforward answers verses Cory's round-about answers, but I think AK could have handled Cory's answers as "I take that as a YES" or "...NO" and Cory could have agreed or disagreed.
@bobthrasher8226
7 күн бұрын
Also, you are one of the few who seems to have tried to understand AK's position. AK was focused on saying that the "emphatic negation" in Jn 10:28 wasn't sufficient to prove OSAS. AK's analogy about Hobby Lobby was spot on, logically.
@naeembourne2474
17 күн бұрын
If you can stop being a sheep, then you was never a sheep in the first place
@jamesharris8652
18 күн бұрын
There is evidence in the Old Testiment supporting OSAS. The real question is those who want to disbelieve that's wrong, do thy really have salvation to lose.
@dwaynesmith5406
15 күн бұрын
St. John 6:65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father. St. John 6:66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.
@QuietGirl2006
18 күн бұрын
I sent you an email Corey. Have you took a look at it?
@casta9172
17 күн бұрын
You can never lose your salvation, because when you get saved, you literally and physically get baptized by the Holy Spirit,, Corey you forgot to mention that part. What's it mean to be baptized in the Holy Spirit, it means that God's spirit dwells in you and guides you. That poor guy's soul is in trouble, he's not in peace,, that the Lord provides us with that wonderful peace and assurance.. I am His and He is mine. He's not listening nor trusting in God's word! 😢
@betsylynnvedrine3784
16 күн бұрын
Didn’t know you attend DTS. My father’s alumni. I am also taking free Online Bible courses.
@richardpoonarian8674
8 күн бұрын
Eternal Security for the believer, yes. Absolute eternal security is not a biblical concept. Refuted by King Saul, Judas Iscariot, ( you can go to my response on your Judas video),Hebrews 3:12, 6:1-8, and 10:26-31, all speaking to Hebrew Christians, which I believe you correctly point out. Also look at Galatians 5:1-4 emphasis verse 4, 1 Timothy 4:1. We don’t like the phrase “lose your salvation”, we prefer to say leave, willfully turn, or walk away from. The technical term is apostatize. With respect to Ephesians 1:13-14, the only thing that can break a divine seal is your own free will, because God is the ultimate perfect gentleman. I do appreciate you approach to the Scriptures by going to the original Greek and checking out those verb tenses as well. I would say I’m in 99.9/10’s agreement with you on this issue.
@AppalachianHistoryDetectives
18 күн бұрын
Jesus couldn't change the minds of the Temple Priests and Jesus authored the book. He never argued or try to convince them because they were convinced they were right. It was life and death to them. For this guy, Corey you cannot change this man's heart. Unless he repents, he will go to the grave with his biases.
@revrenz316
16 күн бұрын
Al Richardson sounds like he knows what he’s talking about! lol until further examination of his stupidity negates his intelligence! AK it’s simpleyour either a sheep or not! That’s why Christ used a being of sorts, cause you cannot decide to stop being a sheep and then become a goat! I don’t understand why it’s so difficult understand this! When Corey explained it, I changed my notion of USAS. Thank you Corey for making it so plain, I’m actually much happier knowing my salvation is secure!
@billramsey8845
18 күн бұрын
About losing your channel i didn't see the live but watched the whole discussion you told him that your channel is off the table but wouldn't hear it
@bullybroadcast3474
18 күн бұрын
Just to clarify I believe in eternal salvation My question is when Cory says all the father gives me shall not perish. So the question is what do you do with John 17:11 “While I was with them in the world, I kept them in Your name. Those whom You gave Me I have kept; and none of them is lost except the son of perdition, that the Scripture might be fulfilled.” John 17:12 NKJV Jesus says Judas was given to him by the father but did perish.
@smartchristians
18 күн бұрын
What was the reason Judas was chosen. This video will explain it. You'll notice that Jesus states that Judas has never been cleansed. kzitem.info/news/bejne/mYqbzJOtqJNmlnosi=ltJk0dDYDennnqNv
@bullybroadcast3474
18 күн бұрын
@@smartchristians my question wasn’t wether Judas was cleansed or not. None of the disciples had eternal security when Jesus was praying to the father because the Holy Spirit is the guarentee and the Spirit comes later. So my question was, Jesus clearly is talking to the Father in John 17:12 and he tells the Father “none that you GAVE ME I lost except the son of destruction”. So if you quote John 6:37 saying whoever the Father gives to Jesus won’t be lost then my question was what do you do with John 17:12? This would contradict your interpretation I believe. And I’m honestly asking to see how you would deal with those two verses.
@sensiblechristian9791
15 күн бұрын
The view that a person can never loose their salvation is a false assumption and a misunderstanding of scripture. Hebrews 6:4-6, Hebrews 10:26-29, Matthew 12:31. Apostacy is a forever sin subject to the second death.
@wigalo2081
18 күн бұрын
Corey, I can't stop watching you...its like a train wreck. You are so passionate about your position, that you bulldog your thoughts on to whoever you are debating. You do this every time. The other side gets to start their thoughts, but you very seldom let them finish without breaking in. You say that they can not see past their opinions to even hear the other side, but you don't have the self awareness to see that you are most guilty of this yourself.
@codyr3914
17 күн бұрын
I hate how when these discussions happen, somewhere along the line is "well he is a Calvinist" or "that's a Calvinist point" Like, honestly, that's a complete shutoff of critical thinking. To quickly and dismissively shut down an argument or point because it conflicts with something you believe is childish. The AK gentlemen did that a lot, as well as his sources he reached out to. What is the point of that? All I hear when things like that are said is simply this: "I have a presupposition I'm holding firmly to and will not budge or be corrected on, and I will prove you are wrong while I am right" it gets exhausting. I understand why Corey harps that phrase "deal with the text" or "deal with the Greek" etc, because it's an attempt to get past a stubborn presupposition or belief that isn't open to correction.
@codyr3914
17 күн бұрын
I'll also add quickly that I once held to the belief of "I'll do what I want when I want how I want" and Jesus came along with His Word and showed me how wrong I was, resulting in me crying out for Him to save me. It's okay to be wrong if I can be made truly right.
@destroyingtheworksofthedev9349
17 күн бұрын
the most ridiculous thought is that people are oscillating between the state of sheep or a goat, wheat or tare, child of the devil or a child of God. This is a blind man who has not been given eyes to see or ears to hear what the spirit says. They were his sheep before they even believed, how can do anything to change that.
@shahiemtyson6315
16 күн бұрын
I have a comment why are we talking about Greek the Bible is not in Greek he gave us his word I don’t speak Greek I don’t read Greek all I want the lord to give me understanding of his word that’s it I read the King James Version so can you explain 2 chronicles 15:2
@living_the_mac_and_cheese_life
18 күн бұрын
we should ask the CEO of Hobby Lobby if they believe we can lose our salvation.
@bobthrasher8226
7 күн бұрын
That's cute. A better question would be if their employees can stop being their employees - that's closer to AK's point.
@living_the_mac_and_cheese_life
7 күн бұрын
@@bobthrasher8226 dude had no point.
@bobthrasher8226
7 күн бұрын
@@living_the_mac_and_cheese_life You just are unwilling to see it. He was spot on in his analogy.
@living_the_mac_and_cheese_life
7 күн бұрын
@@bobthrasher8226 sure bud.
@chrisbailey9377
14 күн бұрын
John 15.1,2,6,8. 1I am the true vine and my Father is the gardener. 2He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he trims clean so that it will be even more fruitful . . . 6If anyone does not remain in me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches 8 are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.... This is to my Father's glory, that you bear much fruit, showing yourselves to be my disciples.
@HChartierKJV
16 күн бұрын
You can't "Lose" Eternal Life. If you could "Lose" your Salvation/Eternal Life, then that wasnt a Free Gift or Everlasting.
@franktagle8571
18 күн бұрын
I believe in what Christ says, therefore I am in agreement with Brother Corey Minor.
@Kontro_Kev
19 күн бұрын
Let see wht we have hear 😅
@budgetlandscaping7358
18 күн бұрын
If you are a sheep you are saved, if you give up turn your back on Jesus you are not a sheep and you will perish.
@powelll
17 күн бұрын
what are the terms THEY FOLLOW ME definitely in the scripture text
@theomegawerty9688
17 күн бұрын
He leaves the 99 to find the one. When we are faithless he remains faithful. He cannot deny himself.
@marciarichardson7480
14 күн бұрын
The Bible speaks of those who Will Not enter the Kingdom of Heaven, 1 Corth 6: 9-20 and other scriptures on this matter.
@jefferyfennix3181
12 күн бұрын
John 6:37 and John 6:44! Chosen by God and raised by Jesus. The Son has not loss one that the Father has given Him, John 18:9. Jesus is the keeper and those who were chosen for repentance and acceptance has eternal life!
@savedbyhisGrace7752
17 күн бұрын
From 1:00:51 to 1:01:12 it has no voice. Was that a mute-ism challenge 😂
@wheelsrolling369
18 күн бұрын
believe and you shall be saved its very clear
@icemanred
19 күн бұрын
Corey, AK was being disingenuous by cherry picking and taking things out of context. I thought it quite interesting that one of the scholars that he brought in said in the closing of his reply to AK was to not cherry pick what he (the scholar) said and take it out of context, which is exactly what AK did.
@bobthrasher8226
7 күн бұрын
Can you recall something AK took out of context?
@vernonsteinkamp1088
16 күн бұрын
Whatever God says according to what denspensation in context. In the case of "His sheep", we are not the sheep. The Jews were referred to as sheep. In this desensation we are regarded as "His body", a new creation. It is very important to know the difference between how God dealt with Israel and how God is dealing with His body of today where there is Jew and Gentile.
@letgodbetrue8864
18 күн бұрын
If there should ever come a time, when you think that you lost a debate, I hope that you don’t delete your channel; because you help the body when you address and debunk heretical foolishness online.
@monalisafinkbeiner3838
17 күн бұрын
Jesus Christ is my righteousness.
@ImaWitness2
19 күн бұрын
Did he say you can stop being His sheep?
@catholictruth102
18 күн бұрын
Just because He didn’t say it, doesn’t mean it cannot happen.
@ImaWitness2
17 күн бұрын
@@catholictruth102 you can read, right? If you're a sheep then you can not never not (ou may) be his sheep. John 10:3 ESV [3] "To him the gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out." John 10:14 ESV [14] "I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me," John 10:16 ESV [16] "And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd." John 10:24-25, 27-28 ESV [24] "So the Jews gathered around him and said to him, 'How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Christ, tell us plainly.' [25] Jesus answered them, 'I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in my Father’s name bear witness about me, [27] My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. [28] I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand.'"
@powelll
17 күн бұрын
sheep have been known to stray
@kgar5String
17 күн бұрын
@@catholictruth102 How do you become a sheep?
@catholictruth102
17 күн бұрын
@@kgar5String You believe.
@felixquintana5784
17 күн бұрын
Brother, SAMARTCHRISTIAN, OSAS is wrong and has made for a lack of real sanctification for most modern Christians since the time of Luther and Calvin,worsening in our own time. Sola Scriptura, if we really believe in it is clear that someone can lose their salvation.
@demetriushall1810
18 күн бұрын
If the sheep can not follow then that would contradict Jesus being The Good Shepherd
@HChartierKJV
16 күн бұрын
The Gospel/Good News teaches Once Saved, Always Saved, Once Born Again of God, Always Born Again a Child of God. But you're Still a Child of God, and God will Discipline his Children. 1 John 2:23 King James Version 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
@TheTruthAndTheCross
19 күн бұрын
The problems many who propagate a Once Saved Always Saved doctrine, is 2 things: 1. No one can ever "lose" their Salvation. However, they can wilfully choose to forsake Christ, deny his Lordship over them and walk no more with Christ. 2. The Scriptures definitely speak to the security of our Salvation, however, those Scriptures must be rightly divided with the Scriptures that clearly teach that a person can be Saved, then NOT Saved. There are multiple Scriptures spoken by Christ that obviously must be understood in light of what actually happened and the epistles given by Christ through his apostles. Such as: Luke 21:17-18 KJV And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake. [18] But there shall not an hair of your head perish. Here, the Lord told the apostles that "not an hair of your head perish". Then we read in the Scripture: Acts 12:1-2 KJV Now about that time Herod the king stretched forth his hands to vex certain of the church. [2] And he killed James the brother of John with the sword. So did a hair on James' head perish? Yes, his natural hair did perish, however the Lord was referring to raising them up with glorified bodies and not a hair will be missing. Luke 21:13-14 cannot be correctly understood alone, we must rightly divide it with many other Scriptures. The same is true with: John 10:27-28 KJV My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: [28] And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. God Bless
@kgar5String
18 күн бұрын
Did Jesus lie or not know what he was talking about when he said his sheep was given to him by the father and he will lose none that the father gave him but raise them up on that day. With the author and the finisher of the faith making this statement how can the sheep that he said he was to keep willfully forsake and deny him? Jesus when talking to Nicodemus about being born again said you had to be born of water and the spirit and the he rephrased and said you must be born again, this is how you become a sheep. Jesus was referencing Ezekiel 36:25-27 25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. 26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. Notice who is talking - God Notice who is doing - God Notice what the requirements - Nothing Notice the results - Heart exchange, cleansing, God’s Spirit, Caused to walk in his statutes, Caused to keep his judgments. With all this being done, does it sound like you lose your salvation?
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