Goes without saying but don't harass any of the people who left these comments. Their comments may be stupid but it doesn't mean they're a bad person. Also this video is meant for entertainment purposes and is not like my normal fully researched videos so I may make errors or other goofs when referring to specific vehicles so please do not take what I say in this video as fact. Thanks for watching and I hope you enjoy!
@baragonkaiju4340
Жыл бұрын
Yes
@INSANESUICIDE
Жыл бұрын
Being a furry you look about what I imagined
@deralbtraumritter8573
Жыл бұрын
8:00 guy shudda wrote "Not See". 8:30 I'm glad you're one of the FEW people who actually realize that not all Germans during WW2 were bad. Yes, they were all Not Sees, or 99%. But that's like saying every Russian was a Communist.
@ConeOfArc
Жыл бұрын
@@INSANESUICIDE I think you have me confused with someone else
@drunkchey9739
Жыл бұрын
@@INSANESUICIDE yeah tf you goin on about?
@tirpitzofficial6002
Жыл бұрын
Cone: "Don't get your Information from Warthunder Forums." me: *looks at the Classified Military Intel that has been leaked*
@theoneandonlyartyom
Жыл бұрын
i will leak document!!1!1
@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle
Жыл бұрын
I think the funniest part is that classified military intelligence has been leaked multiple times
@theoneandonlyartyom
Жыл бұрын
update i have leaked document
@GorFrag
Жыл бұрын
with respect, how do you know those top secret docs are real? do you have access to the real ones to verify them?
@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle
Жыл бұрын
@@GorFrag because in all cases the original poster got in big trouble for breaking their NDAs by sharing the info
@Thirdbase9
Жыл бұрын
I'm torn between wanting to see more "expert" commentary, and worrying about the loss of brain cells by seeing more "expert" commentary. Keep up the good work. Maybe you could do a Fake Tank Commentary Friday.
@SuperMadman41
Жыл бұрын
Please no Fake Tank commentary Friday. 1-2 times a year is plenty
@vinccool96
Жыл бұрын
Stupid Comment Saturday
@ak_nora
Жыл бұрын
As much as I like to laugh at these, I don't want people to start commenting more dumb stuff just to get into a video. Or the act of giving more unnecessary attention to the dumb comments.
@jeremyyates1026
Жыл бұрын
I'm in the same boat lol like I see enough stupid history comments on a daily basis but boy do I get a laugh at those people
@atch4764
Жыл бұрын
If that guy who would “gladly hunt hunters” actually tried to, he would probably fail miserably
@theoneandonlyartyom
Жыл бұрын
ohio man tries to hunt hunters, gets shot seventeen times on the head
@TheMaritimeHorror
Жыл бұрын
Well first they would have to go outdoors. So that’s out.
@JoeOvercoat
Жыл бұрын
Odds are they would get bored out of their skull, and some hunter would find them asleep, with their weapon by their side.
@atch4764
Жыл бұрын
i like how this random comment i made on a persons channel i never knew about until that day has 46 likes
@bonnieanimatronic3180
Жыл бұрын
47 now sir
@Delta6ICU
Жыл бұрын
Ah, the old Dunning Kruger effect. The less they know, the more confidently they know it.
@kotafy4655
Жыл бұрын
An add on point i got from the multi-turret part. Think of tank design as natural selection, if it works and keeps it alive it stays. But if it does not, then it doesn’t make it. (Just throwing that out there)
@tetraxis3011
Жыл бұрын
Perfect description
@carzy1.0
Жыл бұрын
The 8 Sherman's to kill a tiger thing comes from something Nazi soldiers used to say. They would say "It takes 8 Shermans to kill a tiger but the Americans always have 9" which is not true but is kinda funny.
@peterson7082
Жыл бұрын
The thing is there is no record or interview of German crews or infantry saying that
@numbfinger7137
Жыл бұрын
35:05 yes my brain melted as you read that long sentence.
@lmonty141
Жыл бұрын
wehraboos when they get put as a commander of a tiger 1 and realise it isnt like warthunder and there isnt phonk or little dark age playing
@drmaulana2600
Жыл бұрын
even in WT those wehraboos are gonna lost their shit and screams "GerMaNY SuFfER" lmao. they're type of person that think tigers and panthers are superior to allies or soviet counterparts and drove it like it was invincible, then ragequit when they got sniped by a well positioned 76mm sherman, or got penned frontally by 75mm sherman because they drove to close, or even get dismantled piece by piece by a group of locusts.
@M50A1
Жыл бұрын
Suddenly they get strafed by a P-51
@thefox787
Жыл бұрын
4:10 I think that he might have been confused between the M3 and the M6. As, if I am not mistaken, the M3 were called "coffins for 7 brothers" by soldiers of the red army and they weren't very liked.
@minnesotastatesirens2732
Жыл бұрын
This was really entertaining. Id be happy to see a Pt 2!
@CountSpartula
Жыл бұрын
The line of thought that always confuses me as to how people keep falling for it is the thinking of "It takes X number of Y tank to kill one Z tank." It never takes X number of tanks to kill X amount of tanks (or a singular one). It takes X number, because X number is simply what you engage with full stop across the board. Like Shermans, as you explained. It took five Shermans, because that was the size of a tank platoon. Five tanks. Tanks do not engage alone, especially not in WW2. If there is a tank, then either there is at minimum one other close enough to render you to the past tense, or the tank is right beside a metric shitload of infantry or light vehicles who have their own AT implements. One on one fights don't happen unless something has gone horribly wrong for one or both parties.
@moziwarthunder
Жыл бұрын
I think that the Zimmerit guy was reffering that some kind of alchemy hapeens when a tank with zimmerit is at further away and it becomes invisible, which is ridicoulus.
@af8312
Жыл бұрын
15:30 I love the person who gives off total fucking PETA vibes. (sport hunting can be kinda cringe in a lot of ways, yea) but like people are so weird, also I agree a hunting for food is more than fine.
@notagoodsitrep
Жыл бұрын
It took eight Shermans to keel 1 Tigor bcuz the America could actually get eight Shermans to the tank fight in Hitler's basement while General Kuumchugger only had one show-up because one kitty got a bad knee and brokedown, two played in the mud too long and got stuck, and the other four were too busy sweatlording it up in the competitive racist matchmaking known as the Ostfront and needed to win this round of Whack-a-Prole to get Oberlieutenant Bohner to gold rank fascist. Meanwhile, Tiger 162.33333 found itself in the showers of French villa "Le Ram Ranche" with eight Shermans of the "Naked Cowboy" division out of Hoboken, NJ.
@CarburetorThompson
Жыл бұрын
Actually Come of Art tanks are containers that store liquids and gases not vehicles. Checkmate.
@Tigershark_3082
Жыл бұрын
Comments sections can be a trip sometimes
@alanwilliams4443
Жыл бұрын
If a cupola is a "turret", then does that mean the sponson 75, the turret 37, and the cupola .30(?)/.50(?). Does that make a M3 tanks were triple turretted,
@MrTankThatStopped
Жыл бұрын
On the first one, I think he thought the king tiger was something Ike the AMX CDC or something like that
@dukeofwar1003
Жыл бұрын
Okay, even if you can move the super heavy tanks across bridges and stuff in some ways, if you need about an hour of preparation for every small river you need to cross, let alone transporting all the equipment for these operations, that's just ridicolous.
@Gearedfilm57
Жыл бұрын
"You can tell by the way it walks that is a tiger 2"
@simmybear31
Жыл бұрын
On moving things by rail you are right all railway tracks in the world have various maximum axle loadings because of the strength of construction that varies between branch lines and mainline etc. UK rail locomotives are marked with Route Availability for that very reason. Great videos by the way.
@karlthedogwithakar98k95
Жыл бұрын
The Sherman was Racially superior to the Panzer lV
@kaiser-o-things7933
Жыл бұрын
19:15 i mean if that person doesn't go outside obviously nobody in the world goes outside
@eQui253
Жыл бұрын
10,5cm is as precice as 105mm it's just a different unit and means the same. Thats the beauty of metric.. u should try it. Greetings from germany.
@thatgreenneko
Жыл бұрын
“You can tell it’s a king tiger because they way it is” :)
@aigaro9736
Жыл бұрын
Y'know, actually Shermans was attaking german tigers by groups, but obły M4A3. Easy Wight or Firefly was able to hit The German Tiger through frontal armour. That means, The German tanks was not that effective.
@starfox6478
Жыл бұрын
"they where stupid" is a pretty good indication of the type of people commenting this stuff
@Paciat
Жыл бұрын
Nazi propaganda was stupid tho. And fighting a whole world in 1944 was stupid. It only prolonged the war destruction of Germany.
@snowrunetunes6252
Жыл бұрын
@@Paciat if i wasn't on youtube i'd think this comment was ironic
@derpking3970
Жыл бұрын
@@Paciat By 44 they didn’t really have a choice left. What were they gonna do, surrender their entire country to the Allies before D-Day? They weren’t accepting that without France being literally back (and angry Stalin) Surrendering after D-Day isn’t also a choice. The Soviet and French people were far too angry to accept “good peace terms” at that point, short of the terms being similar to 45 surrender anyway
@mahouaniki4043
Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure "Nazis" were much smarter and can spell their first language better than these degenerates.
@vamperjr1376
Жыл бұрын
@@Paciat Most reasonable HOI4 player
@johnmikezstaca4307
Жыл бұрын
The cm and the mm argument makes me think of the joke about a kilogram of steel vs a kilogram of feathers.
@darnit1944
Жыл бұрын
But steel's heavier than feathers....
@Armageddon_71
Жыл бұрын
Oh god that scottish guy that cant "burglar alarm" XD
@pennyforyourthots
Жыл бұрын
The feathers are heavier though. You also have to carry the weight of what you did to those poor birds.
@TheGahta
Жыл бұрын
There was a nice exchange on that one in QI with Stephan Fry where he retorts it actually different because one was weighed in different scales (was more tongue-in-cheek though as is his style but sometimes the obvious isnt as such, like how technically ee have more then one moon 😀)
@burtbacarach5034
Жыл бұрын
Cm and mm= inches and feet.105mm=10.5cm,just as 18 inches=1 foot 6 inches.It's just terminology that equates to the same measurement.But some people just gotta people. EDIT:Shit I need new glasses.....
@JD_79
Жыл бұрын
It isn't so much the myths about tanks (especially the Sherman) that bothers me, but that the myths refuse to die no matter how many expert opinions debunk them over, and over, and over, and over...
@Wolfbroa
Жыл бұрын
Seems to be with just everything nowadays, some humans are just incapable of being smart
@spook9155
Жыл бұрын
What are the myths about the sherman? I'm a smoothbrain who does kinda like ww2 tanks, and what I know of the sherman was that it was a relatively low cost and effective tank that met all the tankering needs of the time with passable armor on the flanks and front, with a more than adequate gun. I'd have figured there was more myths about German tanks since they're the cool looking ones with big cat names, and cause people on the Internet think the nazis were fashionable
@JD_79
Жыл бұрын
@@spook9155 I hope you don't mind a wall of text. :) And take this with a grain of salt, I'm no expert either. Myth: Sherman was infantry support and tank destroyers were supposed to deal with tanks. Context: One of the prevailing tank doctrines of the era was that tanks exploited weak points in the front line to break through and reek havoc on unprotected rear areas. This was countered by the US tank destroyer doctrine of having units that could move quickly to engage these tanks, those were the tank destroyers. The sherman was always a battle tank and was intended to engage whatever it fought, tanks included. It is a myth that shermans waited for tank destroyers to move up and engage enemy armor for them. Myth: Sherman was equipped with the 75mm for anti infantry/fortification uses and not anti-armor. Context: The 75mm gun was chosen because it was the best overall cannon the US could fit into the sherman and still keep the tank feasible. The larger 3inch was deemed impractical (but was used in tank destroyers that had larger open turrets) and it wasn't until the new 76mm and redesigned turret in the "E" series tanks that the sherman gun was upgraded. Myth: Sherman was an easy target because it was so tall. Context. The sherman was taller than both the T34 (approx 8') and P4 (approx 8'10") at 9' to 9'9". I'll leave it up to you to decide if that extra foot over the T34 or several inches over the P4 made it significantly easer to target in actual combat situations. What it did do was allow the tank to have better ergonomics, gun deflection, crew cohesion, and crew escape characteristics. Did those pros outweigh the con of being a 1' taller than the other guy? I think so. Myth: Sherman burned easy because of its gasoline motor. Context: Aside from the Russians no one fielded any significant amount of tanks that ran on anything other than gasoline/petrol. Nor is there any hard evidence that more shermans burned than any other tanks. In some of the early engagements sherman crews were lax on how they stowed extra ammunition and if something touched it off (impact, fire, heat, etc.) it went up in violent fashion. The ammo storage on the sherman was upgraded to wet storage but by then the reputation had taken hold. However, outside of anecdotal stories there is little hard evidence that shermans were universally referred to as "tommy cookers" "Ronson's" "lights the first time, every time" etc. Myth: Sherman wasn't as good as Tiger Context: Apples to oranges comparison as Tiger was a heavy tank designed for breakthrough maneuvers and sherman was a medium battle tank. And as for the "it took 4 shermans to stop a tiger" the origin of that comes from the fact that shermans operated in 4 tank platoons. And while surviving crews believed everything they faced was a tiger the reality is that on the Western front the US didn't face very many tigers. Myth: The US used the Sherman because it was all they had, and they couldn't design anything like the Tiger Context: I'm not even sure what to say to this...if the US (or the Russians, or the British) wanted to copy the Tiger they certainly could have built a comparable heavy tank. But the reality is that while the Tiger was a fantastic tank used in the proper role it had massive limitations caused by its complexity and the strain it put on its components. The Tiger (and all other heavy tanks) required massive maintenance and repair which is why most were lost to mechanical reasons and not due to enemy fire, and they were difficult to transport. The US could ship shermans in large quantities and drive them across Europe's roads and bridges. That wasn't going to be the case with a heavy tank. Myth: Shermans were a deathtrap Context: As with the burning issue I addressed earlier this was a reputation that isn't actually supported by hard evidence. Were more shermans knocked out than other tanks used in the same fashion? Were more sherman crews killed than operators in other tanks? The evidence might exist to support this assertion but I'm not familiar with it. Belton Cooper wrote a scathing book about the sherman being a deathtrap but he was a logistics officer who's experience was with recovered tanks and not himself a tanker, so I would take his opinion on the matter with a large amount of skepticism. Myth: Sherman had poor armor Context: The Sherman entered the war with comparable armor to the current P4 (some argue better, some worse). Later upgrades to the P4 however supersede the sherman ("jumbo" and "E" series tanks not withstanding). It wasn't entirely a problem with sherman armor though as the germans fitted many guns that could punch through more armor than the sherman could have been realistically equipped with, and you aren't going to make a 33 ton sherman as comparably armored as a 44 ton panther, or 51 ton tiger. Myth: Shermans should have all been equipped with 17 pounder guns (aka British Firefly Sherman) Context: The 17 pounder/76mm was a good gun and a substantial upgrade over the 75mm but it was difficult for crews to use the gun and American crews were hesitant to fit a larger gun in the existing turret (the American 3"/76mm was already available if they had wanted to do that) because of the confined space and difficulty in using the larger guns and larger ammunition. The US went a different route with the newer/smaller 76mm fitted in the "E" series shermans that coincided with the introduction of a new turret design. Myth: T34 was better than sherman Context: This isn't to slight the T34 but again this is somewhat of an apples to oranges comparison as the two tanks were designed with different needs in mind. The T34 was a simple, robust tank that was exactly as good as it needed to be to get the job done. Nothing wrong with that approach, it worked well for the Russians and later model T34's were much improved over the early ones. I think the T34/85 was a great tank in its own right. But the US wanted a tank that while easy to mass produce was going to be able to be easily shipped, unpacked, driven countless miles, and then deployed into service. The US also put a higher priority on crew survivability than the Russian's did and so the tank needed to have comfort, survivability and crew-cohesion in mind, as well as the logistical requirements. Combat is very dynamic and isn't all about who has the bigger gun or the thickest armor. I don't think the US would have been satisfied with the T34 as their primary tank, nor would the Russians been satisfied with the sherman as theirs. In the end, I think the P4, Sherman and T34 were largely comparable tanks, each with advantages and disadvantages.
@spook9155
Жыл бұрын
@@JD_79 so what I did know was the truths, I guess ! It doesn't make sense for the gun to be anti personell while also having like 3 different machine guns just for that purpose Though I always thought the tiger was used for ambushes, though I dunno
@JD_79
Жыл бұрын
@@spook9155 I believe the US forces did encounter the Tiger more often in a defensive rather than offensive role, but they were used offensively on the Eastern front. The Tiger was designed originally as a breakthrough tank. The German specifications called on the P3 as their primary battle tank, the P4 supported the P3's, and the Tiger did the breakthrough then pulled back for maintenance and refitting before doing it again. In reality the Tiger was often used as a front line battle tank, just as the US forces called on tank destroyers to be used in traditional tank roles. I think there was "doctrine" and then there was the reality of actual combat. ;)
@gladteer873
Жыл бұрын
I remember driving my horse down Tokyo in operation market garden. The amount of Zweihandler that are needed to defeat Palpatine is on average green. Truly a sight to behold.
@zocker5786
Жыл бұрын
green? that's gotta be at least magenta
@onomatopoeia7505
Жыл бұрын
I thought the calzone gun wasn't meant to be in production at that point in time in Italy?
@TheMeanLemon
Жыл бұрын
This is truly one of the comments ever
@bruhzy2139
Жыл бұрын
you all should have thought of vader, you can’t forget about somebody always by palpatine’s side. Should’ve brought more lances.
@tedsmart5539
Жыл бұрын
this comment is on the tier list of comments
@calessel3139
Жыл бұрын
BTW: Krupp's 10.5cm King Tiger project was rejected for the following reasons: "The proposed 10,5cm gun [L/68] was not accepted for service by the army. Therefore, it doesn't appear advisable to produce a special caliber just for this [vehicle]. In any case, the gun requires a new traversing and elevating mechanism so the turret would probably need to be redesigned. The rate of fire would drop off significantly because of the two piece ammunition. In addition, a second loader would be needed and adding space for him would create considerable difficulties." - Wa.Pruf-6, assessment of Krupp design projects. Generalinspekteur d. Panzertruppen 20 January 1945
@pirig-gal
Жыл бұрын
Close enough to "What? No!"
@ThommyofThenn
Жыл бұрын
Hate Europeans for using a comma instead of a period to indicate where a period should go
@roblogic6823
Жыл бұрын
I swear I've seen one of these at Bovington tank museum. Have I confused it for something else.
@semiedgv
Жыл бұрын
@@roblogic6823 a 105mm King Tiger was never made
@josephervine1119
Жыл бұрын
You’ve seen a regular Königstiger with an 88mm mounted in a Henschel turret.
@Tutel0093
Жыл бұрын
Germany: *builds more tanks* Germany: *has no petrol, ammo, manpower or factories*
@Lonovavir
Жыл бұрын
Wheraboos: Best military ever!!!
@Izyaslavdabes
10 ай бұрын
@@Lonovaviralso wheraboos, the whermacht was the best military force in the universe
@Darkel45
4 ай бұрын
@@Lonovavirreal, on the moment of fashion, germany number one, but when logistics & shit, err, er, eugh.
@sometingwong2733
3 ай бұрын
@@Lonovavir Wikipedia: "French tanks was outclassed German tanks in ww2"
@justandrew9_9
2 ай бұрын
Has no petrol ‚ammo or factories.Germany wasn't lacking men but it was lacking the military equipment necessary to make them well soldiers.
@giladpellaeon1691
Жыл бұрын
I liked the quote, "Sir, this is a Wendy's. I don't know what you're asking me." Many years ago I worked drive-thru at a Taco Bell and had a guy say, "I don't want mayonnaise on my taco." Just wanted to share that.
@USSCYT
Жыл бұрын
He definitely meant Sour Cream lol
@eidechsentyp1236
Жыл бұрын
Yeah neither would I
@JoeOvercoat
Жыл бұрын
That’s what she said!
@johnynoway9127
Жыл бұрын
@@JoeOvercoat bruh... I got the joke but dam new one
@larrybarger1077
Жыл бұрын
Must have been his first time trying a taco..... What's the white stuff on top??? Ah must be mayo..
@aprogressivegamer7005
Жыл бұрын
that E-100 and Maus comment was just them saying "they didnt have problems" then listing the problems they would have had with the tanks crossing a river or riding rail
@theguy9208
Жыл бұрын
german super heavy tanks have no problems crossing rivers. either they can travel miles to find a intact rail bridge, wait hours for the correct special rail cars to show up, and hopefully get the vehicles loaded, across and unloaded within the day, or they can cross fully submerged, 1 at a time, at slower than walking speed. while being fully dependent on another tank on shore sitting stationary providing power. perfect breakthrough vehicles if germany had the same terrain as southern libya
@aprogressivegamer7005
Жыл бұрын
@@theguy9208 strategy genius obviously above the thinking of mere normies
@grugmangaming5152
Жыл бұрын
@@theguy9208 I dunno about that mang
@AuntyBethra
Жыл бұрын
Legit not try a be an expert but I don’t think Germany ever successfully fitted the mass turret to the hull in any operational sense did they?
@Wyomingchief
Жыл бұрын
@@theguy9208 👍👍 😂😂😂😂😂. But about this, after rereading your comment I'm really hoping that's just sarcasm.🤷 Given the comments he read on this video it's sometimes hard to tell. My apologies if that's the case
@oldmate3152
Жыл бұрын
1:49 That comment literally embodies "Watches Fury once and thinks they're a tank expert"
@Some_Average_Joe
Жыл бұрын
God I hate that movie. The fact that Shia Leboufe's character was an overly preachy Christian AND was still one of the most likeable characters in the movie says a lot.
@lonesurvivalist3147
Жыл бұрын
Lol Sherman bad tho
@dickg
Жыл бұрын
@@lonesurvivalist3147 Pretty fair fight against Pz. IVs and IIIs with the 75 mm and an almost okay match against Panthers and Tigers with the 76 mm. Plus the sight picture on the Sherman’s gunner optics looks much cleaner than the ones on German tanks.
@dickg
Жыл бұрын
@@lonesurvivalist3147 And hell, I’d take the Ford GAA on the A3 over any WW2 German engine any day.
@philipkelly7369
Жыл бұрын
@@Some_Average_Joe The characters aren't supposed to be likable. Fury isn't supposed to be some "look at these All-American(tm) GI's coming to rescue Europe from the Nazi menace!" movie. The whole point of the movie is that Germany is already losing, it's a forgone conclusion, and these are the nasty fuckers that are there to kick in Germany's teeth so that the war can end.
@discoplumber
Жыл бұрын
The SEX guy is the best for sure.
@marcelxd1633
Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@deralbtraumritter8573
Жыл бұрын
Lol I thought you were Ian from Forgotten Weapons.
@unapersona8352
Жыл бұрын
That guy spoke facts
@JD_79
Жыл бұрын
I'm mad at ConeOfArc for refusing to address the issue of whether or not he can in fact SEX.
@SkilledNub
Жыл бұрын
15:00 As someone who recently avoided crashing into a deer while going below the speed limit, I can confirm this person is nuts
@victoriacyunczyk
Жыл бұрын
Same here. More than a few times.
@blockstacker5614
Жыл бұрын
the deer population is out of control, probably because most of their natural predators are gone.
@danielmorton1606
Жыл бұрын
We have killed deer's natural predators. In Pennsylvania, the population has reached pre-coloniam levels. Overpopulation results in the spread of wasting disease. Hunting them is not only a natural necessity but a kindness. Deer don't get to die surrounded by their friends and family as a respected elder.
@SkilledNub
Жыл бұрын
@@blockstacker5614 facts
@hzlayer
Жыл бұрын
@@blockstacker5614 yes that's why we had to reintroduce wolves into yellowstone
@dcred123
Жыл бұрын
If it did take 8 Shermans to kill one tiger, that proves that *there were* 8 (or more) Shermans for every tiger.
@deptusmechanikus7362
Жыл бұрын
Plot twist: it was just the same 8 Shermans that picked off all tigers one by one
@gryph01
Жыл бұрын
I have never heard that it took 8 Shermans to kill a tiger. Most allied squadrons attached a firefly or an E8 to four 75 mm Shermans. That had more to with availability of up gunned Shermans. The Tigers biggest advantage was that they could engage Shermans before they could.
@oisnowy5368
Жыл бұрын
Even worse when you figure in there were two fronts: east and west and Tigers did not go to just one of them.
@Macrochenia
Жыл бұрын
The original statement was "one Tiger is a match for four Shermans. Unfortunately there is always a fifth Sherman." And it was made by a German officer who's point was that Germany was going to lose because the US was building so many more tanks than Germany was.
@a1marine105
Жыл бұрын
@@gryph01 funnily enough people who say it takes 8 fully underestimate a Sherman firefly who I'm pretty sure could solo a tiger altho face to face would be a dumb idea
@adamm4766
Жыл бұрын
Late to the game but in case you’re seeing this. The myth, as covered by The Chieftain comes from the size of American armor platoons (the smallest size an American armor unit operated alone in) which was… 5 tanks. When Tigers were setting up alone to ambush American armor you’d have 5 Sherman’s taking on one tiger. Hence the myth.
@youngman7365
Жыл бұрын
Seriously, wehraboos claimed to love history yet fail to understand that the reason why the US use 4-5 tanks to kill one Tiger or Panther is because the US doctrine was overwhelming firepower. Literally a doctrine used to this day that states, "if the enemy has 1 tank, bring 10". It's not because the Shermans suck, but because they want to ensure whatever is fighting them is dead.
@Whyisthat451
Жыл бұрын
and also werent germans much less i dont know the word but like more cautious to call it a loss of a tank then an allied nationn
@loyalhoodini4944
Жыл бұрын
@@Whyisthat451 from what I can guess, if the Germans could get their tanks back to the factory for ‘repairs’, then they wouldn’t consider the tank a loss, even if the tank is so incredibly damaged that I cannot possibly see combat for the rest of its life. Americans meanwhile, would sometimes accidentally mark one tank as several losses, as when damaged tanks were salvaged they had to pass through multiple checkpoints to get repairs back on the American homeland, and at each ‘em checkpoint was someone marking down potential and actual tank losses
@daveybyrden3936
Жыл бұрын
@@loyalhoodini4944 You're correct about the German protocol. As long as they held on to it, it was not "lost" regardless of damage.
@lsswappedcessna
Жыл бұрын
The Germans couldn't have fielded that many tanks if they wanted to, thanks to their supply lines being nearly nonexistent and their factories being smoldering rubble.
@Bushkind
Жыл бұрын
Hunting in general is extremely important for population control and safety, in every populated area there is a clash between the habitat of animals and humans, in Germany deer don't have natural predators, so humans need to fill this role to keep the populations out of the cities and manageable sizes that don't interfere with traffic etc
@alphaniner3770
Жыл бұрын
well, there are wolves in Germany - but I agree not nearly enough to keep the deer population under control. - but for 'youngsters' that lived in a city all their lives, that have just seen 'Bambi and the bad hunter' - well, I can imagine that they become upset about hunting. On the other hand this doesn't fit with wanting to hunt the hunters. Anyways, I agree that hunting (not poaching) is important.
@dereinzige3092
Жыл бұрын
You are right. Here in Germany that is why hunting is so big. Sure there are wolves, but not enough to fully control to populatio
@TheDoctorFromArknights
Жыл бұрын
@@dereinzige3092 and we don't want What Happened to Australia when they Introduced a fuck ton of animals and predators to the ecosystem
@christophervanoster
Жыл бұрын
We have a very similar situation in the US as well. Even in some areas carp in the lakes is invasive so most let you fish an unlimited number of carp and keep them. Granted not to keep but to get out of the lakes/rivers
@manuelcjr52
Жыл бұрын
Plus meat taste good
@rcaf_ozzie5802
Жыл бұрын
I feel like half of these people that do this have too be trolls
@pilotmic2109
Жыл бұрын
nah trust me dude, a good amount of these people are fr lol. its sad but true
@rcaf_ozzie5802
Жыл бұрын
@@pilotmic2109 it baffles me..
@hanssmidt12
Жыл бұрын
Not me, i wasnt really learned enough at that moment and my comment was formulated wrong
@rcaf_ozzie5802
Жыл бұрын
@@hanssmidt12 it seems English isn't your first language, even so we all make mistakes, I used too think the panther was the best tank of WW2
@hanssmidt12
Жыл бұрын
@@rcaf_ozzie5802 Yes it isnt and its a late hour for me lol
@funkyhetzer6624
Жыл бұрын
I refused to believe real people can type out comments like that, but I guess you taught me better.
@austinteal3645
Жыл бұрын
They probably used speech to text if they were on a phone or something
@Registered_Simp
Жыл бұрын
I sometimes struggle to do the same bud. Even when I type to fast I make typos so egregious I wonder "How the fuck did that even happen" it's more coherent than some of these people...
@yoshineitor
Жыл бұрын
Young kids that think they are smart thanks to IQ online tests.
@Registered_Simp
Жыл бұрын
@@yoshineitor Trusting online IQ tests --> Room temperature IQ
@AetherOnYT
Жыл бұрын
@@Registered_Simp wtf is room temperature iq?
@mbryson2899
Жыл бұрын
Regarding the footage you shot and shared: THANK YOU for doing that! I'm disabled, I'll never get a chance to attend such an event. When enthusiasts such as yourself take the time and effort to shoot and and then share those experiences I get to participate vicariously. It means a lot to me and I suspect to many others. That is one of the various reasons that I subscribe and faithfully watch. Again, thank you. Please don't think that that one random objector speaks for everyone.
@mbryson2899
Жыл бұрын
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@mbryson2899
Жыл бұрын
Also, regarding hunting: I grew up in Chicago but spent many, many summer, fall, and winter breaks with family in rural northeastern Missouri. In that area deer were dangerous pests that routinely overbred because their natural predators had been exterminated. Yes, killing off the predators was shortsighted but that is the situation we inherited. Many families depended on venison for meat; they could not afford storebought meat. Further, huge deer populations demolished crops, endangered traffic, and spread disease. Twice I was invited to help cull the deer population. I did so and gave the meat to folks who needed it (if it was free of sickness). The poster who fantasizes that he could hunt hunters would likely be in for a sudden, rude, and terminal experience. Perhaps he should confine his activities to assaulting a corporate cattle ranch, or pig or chicken farm. He would likely only face arrest, not the consequences of challenging subsistence hunters on their own terrain.
@YEET-fe3fw
Жыл бұрын
@@mbryson2899 very based
@ligmaballs1953
Жыл бұрын
@@YEET-fe3fw your mothers home is based on my cock
@yesaterisk5641
Жыл бұрын
@@YEET-fe3fw Unrelated, but nice pfp.
@venstoma
Жыл бұрын
The 120mph thing nearly made me laugh to death. Please don't tell me that's somehow real now or I'll probably actually die
@caelodevorago608
Жыл бұрын
Well, the actual amount isn't true. But yeah, if you remove the governor from the Abrams, it is stupidly fast. It's just... it'll fucking shake itself apart like any super fast multiton vehicle will at those speeds. I think it's well over 70-80mphs last time I heard the number. Talked to some Gulf War dudes who specifically removed their governor for the extra speed while in the last bit of tank warfare we ever got to experience as a nation. And yeah, it definitely can go a fuckton faster than it's "official" stats say... Because the stat is based on what it can SAFELY run at Kinda like effective range, maximum range and "Yeah technically if you fire the cannon from a mountain, it could travel like 10x further than it's stated max range!"
@mintgoldheart6126
Жыл бұрын
@@caelodevorago608 have you ever seen a 10 ton truck go 160mph on sand dunes? It is both mesmerising and terrifying. And I would certainly love to see a tank go that fast.
@caelodevorago608
Жыл бұрын
@@mintgoldheart6126 absolutely I'd love to see that. But yeah, I think the Abrams can hit like 70-80 in good condition
@mintgoldheart6126
Жыл бұрын
@@caelodevorago608 a bit of an old video, but here is a DAF turbo twin overtaking a Peugeot 405 T16 kzitem.info/news/bejne/oo15tKKipGqjnoo And the Abrams being capable of this kind of speed is already ludicrous and awesome.
@Frille512
Жыл бұрын
@@mintgoldheart6126 And yet, it can't even depress its gun when facing backwards
@SiriusMined
Жыл бұрын
The X Shermans to kill 1 Tiger is such a ridiculous trope. They looked at how many Shermans lost and divided by the number of Tigers lost, and presumed every loss on either was by the other. It took 1 Sherman to kill a Tiger, if the Sherman was in the right place with the right vantage point. And the Sherman Jumbo had not only a gun capable of killing a Tiger, but similar armor thickness, and better sloping. The 88 was a powerful gun, but not unstoppable.
@oasis1282
Жыл бұрын
Why don't they mount a Panzerschrek as coaxial. Now you can kill every tank.
@definitelynotakgbagent6612
Жыл бұрын
@@oasis1282 sweet Jesus Christ. If your not being sarcastic (which I hope to god you are) there is a thing with any rocket launchers called ‘backblast’ when the rocket is fired all the hot gas comes out the back (that’s why all rocket launchers have a hole in the back even disposable ones) if you mounted that in the coaxial mount of a tank your crew is dead when you pull the trigger, and that’s not accounting range, optics or how it’s mounted I really hope you are just being sarcastic my guy because this is one of the dumbest comments I’ve seen when talking about ww2
@YamahaR12015
Жыл бұрын
I think the trope mostly stems from one fo the Tiger tank commanders popularized quotes of "1 tiger was worth 10 Sherman's, the issue is the Americans always had 11" I'm sure I've misquoted that but that's the gist.
@shirayuri4345
Жыл бұрын
@@oasis1282 It would kill the dude who would fire it lmao. Using a Panzerschrek required a protective set of clothing. Not to mention anyone inside would get their eardrums torn apart.
@jic1
Жыл бұрын
@@shirayuri4345 The protective clothing was only needed for the early models without the blast shield, and wouldn't be an issue because you're firing it from inside a tank. The real issue is that you would have to leave the tank to reload, which would make it essentially a single-use weapon during most battles.
@nastynate4916
Жыл бұрын
I love how you can tell when someone’s entire knowledge of allied-vs-axis tanks especially when it comes to Tigers stems from the history channel and War Thunder
@_Juke_
Жыл бұрын
Well war thunder/wot to some extent have better facts. i am aware wot is an arcade game with many made up stats, before some smartass thinks they got me now.
@nastynate4916
Жыл бұрын
@@_Juke_ yeah, I know, I meant moreso the people that take video game mechanics verbatim especially in war thunder’s case since armor penetration is a little over exaggerated in areas whether a shell will do damage or bounce off
@_Juke_
Жыл бұрын
I understood what you meant :) just wanted point out the other side as well
@deezboyeed6764
Жыл бұрын
@@_Juke_ video games are good for the hard factors, they are useless for the actually important part that is the soft factors.
@hanneswiggenhorn2023
Жыл бұрын
@@deezboyeed6764 the problem is, videogames are not capable to capture real warfare, because that just wouldn't make for a fun game. You can't simulate all factors of a battlefield and have a fun game, because some stuff, like one live per battle, just get in the way of playing. And in warthunders case, I am pretty sure stuff like armor, mobility, and guns are optimised for fun rather than accuracy, so you can't compare this to an irl environment. Of course some stuff is realistic, but when realism and fun clash/get in the way if each other, fun often comes out on top
@ladyofolyas
Жыл бұрын
"A tank is better than no tank." Amazing how often people forget this.
@markolysynchuk5264
4 ай бұрын
Yes, and how one good tank is better than a lot but bad ones.
@haruhisuzumiya6650
2 ай бұрын
*still gets javelined*
@aerfwefd7334
Жыл бұрын
"Don't get your information from the War Thunder forums." Going to be honest with you, that should probably be a disclaimer on most AFV-related videos.
@minimalbstolerance8113
Жыл бұрын
A friend of mine was a moderator for several military vehicle forums a few years ago. He said that the worst things he had to deal with was 1: people who thought WW2 German equipment was superior in every way to that of the Allies, and 2: people who got all their armoured vehicle knowledge from World of Tanks.
@RealRexRiplash
Жыл бұрын
No no, the War Thunder players have classified government documents to back their statements up...
@aerfwefd7334
Жыл бұрын
@@RealRexRiplash I'll start believing that has any weight when they start getting shot for espionage.
@rigel9228
Жыл бұрын
@@minimalbstolerance8113 My god, world of tanks is probably even worse than war thunder in that regard...
@Marin3r101
Жыл бұрын
@@rigel9228 no shit condom head.
@andyb1653
Жыл бұрын
33:05 If that dude spent just half the time and energy he put into typing that comment into learning about spelling and grammar, the comment would have been typed properly. If he put the other half into learning the actual history of the M1 Abrams or Willys Jeep, he wouldn't have typed it at all.
@ajjohnson3497
Жыл бұрын
The fact that he read it “as is” took some dedication.
@Basedlocation
Жыл бұрын
Speaking the language of the gods
@macroglossumstellatarum5932
Жыл бұрын
LazerPig also did a video on why the Sherman production and casualty numbers are massively overstated. In short, due to how casualties are counted, they don't differentiate between "back to the depot for repairs" and "back to the scrapyard". Damaged and repaired tanks are thus counted multiple times.
@zagaa1891
Жыл бұрын
@@ideadlift20kg83 and the fact that outnumbered tigers would ambush shermans from where they couldn't see it
@ultimativeslexikon5436
Жыл бұрын
@@ideadlift20kg83 Something Lazerpig also talks about in that video
@tonedeaftachankagaming457
Жыл бұрын
It’s very interesting how often people forget that these types of regimes LOVE to “imagine” numbers to improve their image. The Nazis were in many ways no different than the Soviets, or the Russian and chinese regimes today.
@DanielVisOneCade
Жыл бұрын
Over reporting or at the very least misaligned after action reports been used for follow up field or strategic reporting is still common today. There are multiple examples just in the last 10 to 20 years where even with with open source information gathering during and after the fact we still see ratio's that don't stack up. Military quality 'armed' drones currently been a great example since it's very much in the interest of one side to down play their effectiveness given their losing expensesive armoured units, installations or V.I.Ps to them while the other wants to buff their number's or cost effectiveness as much as possible to sell more!
@mrshark1757
Жыл бұрын
Slight correction, I believe it was the British doing this with their tank units, rather than the Americans or the Sherman units. I don't want to be annoying, so I'm sorry if I am. Edit for a bit more clarity.
@MrShoic
Жыл бұрын
As for the Maus fording a river, sure, it was theorized, German engineers also theorized the Großtraktor was amphibious but the sole test of its amphibious capability resulted in it sinking and drowning an engineer with it. Let's not forget the Germans also theorized the Maus would have similar ground pressure to a Panther but then it promptly sank up to its turret in mobility trials
@nottherealpaulsmith
Жыл бұрын
the maus wouldn't have forded rivers so much as dammed them, really
@DarkThunderism
Жыл бұрын
@@nottherealpaulsmith I suppose it depends on the river, but it might make for some fun rapids in something like the Danube.
@s4sausage135
Жыл бұрын
"the sherman couldnt kill the tiger" sherman firefly : am i a joke to u
@thegamingzilla6269
Жыл бұрын
On the T30/T34 comment. Its quite possible to fit a 155mm in a turret originally ment for a 105, because the 155 gun was a howitzer, this has overall less pressure than a regular gun, which means the breech and recoil mechanism theoretically can be similar in size to the armament already present
@naamadossantossilva4736
Жыл бұрын
A similar 1.5x increase in caliber with a howitzer was seen with the Pz 3 N.
@gryph01
Жыл бұрын
Engineers managed to stuff a 17 pounder into a Sherman turret. Mind you, they had to add an extention to it to compensate the recoil.
@thegamingzilla6269
Жыл бұрын
@@gryph01 yeah, Britian didnt want to wait for the 76mm turrets to be finished which would have provided enough room for the 17 pounder, so they did some modifications to the 75mm turret and had to set the gun in an awkward position inside the vehicle but they managed to fit it in relatively well enough for mass production of the modifications
@johnfrancisterne1072
Жыл бұрын
The AC4 Sentinel used 2×25pdr guns to test for recoil when they were trying to fit the 17pdr in the new Sentinel. They figured that if the tank could take the combined simultaneous recoil of two howitzers, then it would survive a 17pdr's recoil just fine
@gryph01
Жыл бұрын
@@thegamingzilla6269I watched a Chieftain video where he demonstrated loading a 17 pounder shell into the breech. I would hate to be a loader in a firefly.
@lukeskywalket2894
Жыл бұрын
As someone who volunteers at the American Heritage Museum, yeah, I can confirm that Cone was there and he did record his own footage.
@Joeofthemasks
Жыл бұрын
Holy crap! Luke Skywalker works at the AHM! Yet another reason to go!
@anm10wolvorinenotapanther32
Жыл бұрын
Dude saved the Star Wars universe, become a living legend and proceeds to work at a tank museum afterwards. I guess that's what they call priorities.
@forestwolfgang2842
Жыл бұрын
@@Joeofthemasks **Luke Skywalket (Skywalket is not Skywalker)
@michimatsch5862
Жыл бұрын
@@anm10wolvorinenotapanther32 It's like that one Roman emperor who went back to farming cabbages after saving the Roman Empire.
@yeboxxx_channel_2505
Жыл бұрын
@@michimatsch5862 Ah you mean Diocletian. Who would forget him? The Roman Emperor that made Tetrarchy, leadership of 4 Emperors 1 Empire.
@revengeofthepanzers9047
Жыл бұрын
33:06 this man has unlocked esoteric knowledge lost to time we are blessed to even get a shred of his intellect shared with us
@roastedsand5917
Жыл бұрын
That E-79 😂 When you make video of fake tank, and explain it was a "fake", yet people complaint because you take the information from Video game, that literally the source of the Tank in the first place
@GoingForth
Жыл бұрын
That's the reason why it's called "fake tank friday" God, is reading the title a very hard thing to do? This people probably never go to elementary school
@kasvos9292
Жыл бұрын
@@GoingForth *these
@GoingForth
Жыл бұрын
@@kasvos9292 Still learning english, so thx for your correction
@baraka629
Жыл бұрын
How about the E27
@chitzkoi
Жыл бұрын
This is great. It's 50% sir, this is a wendy's and 50% wehraboo cope
@hanssmidt12
Жыл бұрын
Not really, some people do not know enough or watch wrong videos so they get wrong reference of thing like i used to
@thomaszinser8714
Жыл бұрын
at 23:59 there's also a perfect example of 'why scrap the advanced designs rather than just use them?' with the Type XXI submarine. Because that *was* genuinely more advanced than contemporary Allied subs, and as a result, they were handed out to the various Allies to reverse-engineer. Which led to the immediate post-war diesel subs.
@snowrunetunes6252
Жыл бұрын
baffles me that none of them realize just why there was an international technological boom in the late 40s and 50s: all hyper competitive state secrets were poured into one big intl melting pot of advanced electronics and production methods
@blockstacker5614
Жыл бұрын
Rockets as well
@Nomisdoowtsae
Жыл бұрын
From memory the hull for the Yamato was innovative and adopted widely for extremely large ships also.
@blockstacker5614
Жыл бұрын
@@Nomisdoowtsae wasn't the Yamato sunk in combat?
@Nomisdoowtsae
Жыл бұрын
@@blockstacker5614 yes but the hull was a great way of dealing with the massive displacement. That big bulge just below the surface on the bow of most modern superships? Thats from the Yamato.
@zata4ul
Жыл бұрын
tea and snacks are ready, I am prepared for some great sunday evening content edit after watching the whole vid: I really enjoyed this one, would be nice to see similar stuff every once in a while, because not only this allows you to reply to probably hundreds of similar comments-complaints at once, but also this is pretty funny at times (33:03 sequence is one of my favourite moments from your channel already, an instant classic). keep up the great work, Cone!
@dman1005
Жыл бұрын
33:30 "125mph if the governor was delete" This is just beautiful
@rdfox76
Жыл бұрын
I *will* note that I've heard a story from a source I consider reliable that, when he was stationed at White Sands in 1980, he was doing about 60-65 mph on his way into the base one morning and was passed by a group of XM1s (which still weighed about 55-60 tons at that point, before the armor upgrades and the 120mm gun) on the parallel tank road, at a speed that meant they were doing about 65-70 mph. I can buy that, I could even buy an XM1 approaching 80 on a long downhill grade. But 125? Man, the only way it could ever hit that speed is if you dropped it out of a C-5 at high altitude with no parachutes...
@hanssmidt12
Жыл бұрын
The first comment is my cringe comment from some time ago im only 15 atm, i know exuses Edit:atm im trying to get myself more books about history and i try to learn as much i can
@oberleutnanttai4343
Жыл бұрын
lol
@hanssmidt12
Жыл бұрын
@@Davidee_631 thanks
@NikkusNam
Жыл бұрын
the 3th Reich was hilarious tho
@hanssmidt12
Жыл бұрын
@@NikkusNam yeah lol
@macroglossumstellatarum5932
Жыл бұрын
If you cringe at what you did in the past, it only proves you've grown as a person!
@capt_sanschagrin4717
Жыл бұрын
15:15 At the time of me starting to watch this video before I had to go to my truck to warm up, I was watching this in the woods; hunting for white tailed deer. The reason I hunt is not for the fun of shooting animals, it's for the experience of walking quietly walking thought the woods, of looking at things you are less likely to see in a largely populated area. I have had the luck of seeing moose for the pass 5 years hunting for deer. I have always loved walking in the woods and I have been hunting ever since I could shoot a gun. I also hunt to help put food on the table. It makes the food taste better knowing that you put work into getting the animal you are about to eat. My grandfather and I love to eat the heart and liver. In some religions, they say if you eat the heart of an animal, you gain their knowledge. Lastly, the community. Hunters and also fishermen love to tell stories to each other. There is always someone out there to help teach you to be more successful (making good choices and ethical shots with target practice) or someone to help you pull your kill from with in the woods. Also, it is a hunters ethical job to kill the animal as painlessly as possible. Here is my 2 cents.
@Jenner_IIC
Жыл бұрын
I think the idea of hunting being extremely unethical and gross is that a lot of city rats (like me) only get to see the loud minority of hunters (who usually also come from major cities) that do edge on the bloodthirsty side as well as poachers. I don't know how it is on the other side of sea but here in Poland hunting license comes with more than just hunting, the clubs here frequently help with preparing for controlled burns, building feeding areas during rougher seasons for animal population to not collapse and sometimes capturing animals alive too (A lot of various reasons for this one). I would say from my limited experience volunteering in one to help with the burns and feeding spots it is way more humane than the factory farms (Would honestly still prefer lab meat though).
@RomanumChristum
Жыл бұрын
@@Jenner_IICYea city rats are the worst
@dereinzige3092
Жыл бұрын
How about this for everyone. Hunting is how food was originally gotten. Even today, the food (at least the stuff that should be there in the meat markets) in the markets were hunted for. You cannot take away a wolf from hunting, he will just kill you too if you try. You cannot take a person away from hunting as people do not understand that we are animals too, we are supposed to hunt as we are predators and prey in certain situations
@hawkshadowoseanacy5171
Жыл бұрын
Two other points in this. 1) Most wild, mid to large sized, animals that live into adulthood (about 1 in 10) live many more years in much better conditions than farm facyory equivalents. Many adult animals survive w/ or w/o predators until the hitnold age at which their teeth have worn down to expose nerves, resulting in less ingestion of food and either starvation, disease, or predators (who can now successfully take them down) leading to their deaths. It can been seen as more humane for a hunter's bullet to instantly, or nearly so, than any of these other types. 2) Generally harvesting of a deer, etc., for meat is much less hard of the environment than factory farm equivalents. Cows require something over 4x as much land for the same amount of meat produced, more land cleared (much of which will turn to deserts), and produce much more methane.
@KaihanDTuna
Жыл бұрын
I wonder what if vegetable was able to talking..
@pusheenthecat9264
Жыл бұрын
Just so you know, often times (not all the time though) anyone on youtube claiming to be an expert is likely in the 9-12 age range. You should do more of these videos, they are very fun to watch!
@angoankhachai9333
Жыл бұрын
Adding to the age part, if someone is asking you your age and/or saying that you are just a 'kid' in an argument, that is most definitely someone not worth interacting with.
@evanfury130
Жыл бұрын
Wehraboos trying to look smart on the internet challenge (IMPOSSIBLE) Great vid, would love to see more of these
@RandomPerson-hd6wr
Жыл бұрын
Loo
@HorseshitDetectionAgency
Жыл бұрын
Wehraboos are literal spergs
@1985_Honda_CRX_Si
Жыл бұрын
Wehraboo try not to make a fool of yourself challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
@emperorhaya5351
Жыл бұрын
POV: youre looking for “Experts” in the comments so ur on newest first
@codymoon7552
Жыл бұрын
Why dose this feel like a LazarPig video
@chimpgaming8290
Жыл бұрын
It is
@shisponk8378
Жыл бұрын
laserpig but not br*tish
@themouthofsauron6926
Жыл бұрын
How does it feel like a LazarPig video? I didn't see any fake virtue signaling over geopolitics in this video lol.
@Butter_Warrior99
Жыл бұрын
@@shisponk8378, Lazerpig but not drunk.
@av8bharrier2modified76
Жыл бұрын
Perhaps they are one in the same, But it's just a theory, A CONSPIRACY THEORY
@camoking5059
Жыл бұрын
15:10, was that dude literally complaining about people hunting yet watches a KZitem channel about war vehicles deigned to kill people? It was probably ThatVeganTeacher on a alt account lol
@pilotbug6100
Жыл бұрын
15:53 as a firearm enthusiast I totally agree. I once read something once that I agreed with. "every deer you hunt will die anyways, never from age, usually being eaten alive" Edit: After reading replies I have changed my opinion. I still agree with hunting but no longer the quote
@filonin2
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't use that logic as it can be expanded to anything that lives, especially ones in poor conditions. The homeless for example. "Every bum you hunt will die anyways, never from age, usually from drugs."
@louiscypher4186
Жыл бұрын
@@filonin2 Only if you consider a deer the equivalent to a human
@lemons1559
Жыл бұрын
@@filonin2 It's already established that shooting deer is fine but shooting homeless is evil so I don't think your logic can be applied.
@CharlesFromHenryTheStickman
Жыл бұрын
PilotBugs point is that the deer will usually suffer a painful and early death anyways not that "killing not bad because not die from old age anyways"
@placate9051
Жыл бұрын
@@filonin2 except people tend to have humans and animals in separate moral categories, but it doesn't matter considering that after your talk about logic you won't engage anyone's point.
@kawaiiarchive357
Жыл бұрын
American had squads of 4-8 tanks so it would make sense for there to be 8 M4s vs. 1 Tiger.
@THEHOLYCHAINSWORD
Жыл бұрын
I think they were meaning the sherman could never kill the tiger in a 1v1 and would need 8 to kill not the squad number but still 4 to 8 Sherman's advancing on your position probably isn't fun
@THEHOLYCHAINSWORD
Жыл бұрын
Oh nvm I read your comment sorry for the trouble
@THEHOLYCHAINSWORD
Жыл бұрын
Wrong
@nothingtoseehere1221
Жыл бұрын
To paraphrase The Chieftain "well you're not gonna go 'oh its only a sturmgeschutz, hey joe we don't need you and your buddy' "
@Dreachon
Жыл бұрын
American tank platoons were 5 tanks max.
@jamesocker5235
Жыл бұрын
Responding to comments takes a lot of patience. You are very patient
@Strykenine
Жыл бұрын
HOI4 enjoyers are just the worst kind of nerds around. Says me, HOI4 enjoyer with 1k hours and counting.
@stefan7378
Жыл бұрын
There are always "experts" that now everything!
@alefmagnum207
Жыл бұрын
You meant the "know"?
@RabbertKlein
Жыл бұрын
This was hilarious and painful at the same time. Please do more of these videos :D
@newspaperbin6763
Жыл бұрын
1:15 I'm sorry but he's actually right.
@stillhere9728
Жыл бұрын
Never let dumb comments sour you on your viewers in general. I’ve seen far too many channels where they have barely concealed contempt for their viewers because of a small and notorious pack of commenters.
@HieronymousLex
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Every channel with a following gets comments from low IQ or mentally ill people. You really should just ignore them, you’re not gonna change their mind. And you don’t have to defend yourself against them, we know em when we see em
@Marin3r101
Жыл бұрын
Like you?
@sparrow9990
Жыл бұрын
1:28 best comment
@PaperThinArmor
Жыл бұрын
A good chunk of these comments were just people speaking “Engrish” from translating their native language through Google Translate which made their comments absolutely nonsense. The other portions are just kids that are interested in tanks and spouting general stereotypical beliefs on tanks, people that....”think outside the box” like that guy counting the cupola as being an extra turret, and people that are irrationally enraged by sponsorships.
@od1452
Жыл бұрын
I think you are right. And People can get so angry when their favorite thing is challenged.
@corinthianimperialstudios704
Жыл бұрын
Okay, literally just before you mentioned the Abrams part at around 13:30 ish (a bit more but idc), I googled it because I tend to do that. The proposals from Chrysler and GM had the 105mm but were redesigned so that by the prototype phase, the turret could mount both the M68 105mm gun or the then undesignated Rh120 120mm gun for evaluation. The 105mm was selected for ammo commonality with the M60 but later on, obviously the M1 was upgraded to the M1A1 standard which gave it the M256 120mm gun. I initially thought they were designed for the 120mm from the start but partially redesigned for the 105mm for the same reason why the 105mm was selected for the initial M1s. I was wrong.
@ConeOfArc
Жыл бұрын
From what I've heard it had to do with ammo availability and effectiveness. The 105 had good ammo which was already widely in service with NATO members but the designers knew eventually they would need to upgrade so they made sure a better armament could later be installed.
@talltale9760
Жыл бұрын
@@ConeOfArc Hell it could be argued the 105 is still capable to this day and preferable for certain use cases. Though I suppose vehicle mounted ATGMs combined with a smaller gun have essentially taken over that niche.
@derpydood
Жыл бұрын
@@ConeOfArc So in a nutshell, "Hey guys, let's future proof this thing a little while where at it."
@morva4498
Жыл бұрын
Spookston made a good video explaining why the 105mm was chosen for the XM1 over the 120mm. The 105 costs less, weighs less, and uses common ammunition throughout NATO at the time.
@slobodanmitic1354
Жыл бұрын
Also a common misconception is that there were tank rushes on the Eastern Front all the time. The Red Army did make these desparate charges early in the war, but by the end of '42. those were much more rare.
@hanssmidt12
Жыл бұрын
With my comment i ment that if they focused more on making tanks that were more realible than the Tiger , like the pz4 they might had more advantage but at that moment i made my comment really bad and i agree it was stupid
@gregoryclark8217
Жыл бұрын
Talking about fitting larger guns, the Centurion was initially designed with a 17 pounder (roughly 76 mm), but mainly served with a 20 pounder (roughly 83 mm) and then a 105 mm, and the turrets looked almost exactly the same for the 20 pounder and 105 mm variants.
@markolysynchuk5264
8 ай бұрын
Also, while it may seem strange, but when the T-34-85 was being designed in the late 1943, it was discovered that the 85 mm gun could fit into the hexagonal 1942-1943 turret which was originally designed for 76mm cannon. But it left very little space left for the crew, and so a new, three-man turret was designed.
@ChaosPootato
Жыл бұрын
Can you imagine 6 HIGHLY EXPENSIVE E-100s just riding around in a tight formation, surrounded by even more tanks, in the bomb sights of an allied bomber?
@darnit1944
Жыл бұрын
That allied bomber will have a boom boom fun time
@youmukonpaku3168
Жыл бұрын
I can certainly imagine the bomber having some difficulty flying straight with the crew all sporting spontaneous boners from it.
@ChaosPootato
Жыл бұрын
@@youmukonpaku3168 Exactly hahaha
@rbgerald2469
Жыл бұрын
Tempest MkV late, P47D Thunderbolt (Razorback): *It's free real estate.*
@Haispawner
Жыл бұрын
No you don't get it the bombs are just gonna bounce off of the tanks, they put springs on top of the tanks so they'll just fly off elsewhere with a loud *boing* demonstrating superior German engineering.
@codyprice4592
5 ай бұрын
The thirdth Reich could've invaded the US if they built a bridge from Germany to Alaska.
@markolysynchuk5264
4 ай бұрын
😅
@bearcatguest7
2 ай бұрын
Real?
@codyprice4592
2 ай бұрын
@@bearcatguest7 yeah man, Germany is really close to the US mainland
@ET-Gamer
Жыл бұрын
12:57 this guy would shit himself if he knew they put a Pershing turret on a Sherman hull.
@drmaulana2600
Жыл бұрын
or what yugoslavian did with SO122 (Sherman with 122mm)
@fetusdeletus9266
Жыл бұрын
You have the truly unenviable curse of attracting hordes of Redditors aka people who see 3 war thunder videos and read one article about the Tiger 1 and immediately act as if they are the infallible king ding-a-ling of tank knowledge.
@yusufbektas1961
Жыл бұрын
sherman is bwad trash tank, glorius germany tanks kill every othr tank!1!1!1!1!!1
@jdiluigi
Жыл бұрын
"80 years of Hindsight and watching YT has made me the bestist tank expert" - Coment Guy typing 15 seconds into your videos.
@thecrazycybermaster4450
Жыл бұрын
21:07 that guy were prob WoT player. To think that e 100 and maus are efective are freaking dumb. maus is slow, it will get absolutely destroyed by altilery or better get its track blown up countless time, and its big appearance will be an easy target for strategic bombing or tactical bombing. One P47 could ruin its reputation
@jeremy5183
Жыл бұрын
I love how ReaperTango19 said that the shells should be referred to as 105mm, the Germans used cm's for everything they built 😂
@felixbui9818
Жыл бұрын
every “military historian” starterpack plays war thunder/wot watches oversimplified
@Ziegrif
Жыл бұрын
I have no idea how a tank works. All I know is that it aims at something, fires and then all your worries disappear. Unless your caliber is too small. Then your problems multiply very quickly.
@russianyoutube
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, thats pretty much all you need to know if you don't want to be a tank expert.
@m.t.fguard8309
Жыл бұрын
That random guy: I would gladly Hunt hunters Me: good luck trying to find me in the woods because if I'm being hunted I'm not going to wear any Orange I'm just going to disappear right into the woods in the hunting ghillie suit i wear and my camouflage shotgun
@Cursed_sc0ut
Ай бұрын
Fuck it pour syrup on you while you’re nude and roll in a pile of leaves
@grumpystranger6377
Жыл бұрын
The 'racism' guy is probably mixing up the pre-war US attitude towards japanese aviation (to the point where USN got basically blindsided by the performance of the zero) and trying to apply it to the post-war climate.
@pilotmic2109
Жыл бұрын
"quite a few dollars" I think that's a bit of an understatement lol
@justasteamplayer7542
Жыл бұрын
“The Germans Use APHE” Me, a dumbass warthunder player that doesn’t know the German tree: UHM ACSHUALLY THE GARMENS YOUSE APCBC
@brucermarino
Жыл бұрын
Dear Cone, Not everyone gets your salient and will researched "points" :-) keep up the fine work!
@imalwaysthere921
Жыл бұрын
These videos are like mini pop quizzes of history, and they’re honestly quite enjoyable! Thanks for this video Cone; and yes, at least I can say I’ll see you in the next one ✌️ 💪
@hicknopunk
Жыл бұрын
14:52 yeah, my extended family depends on responsible hunting to make ends meet. Anyone who thinks hunting to survive is wrong, is disproportionately disconnected from their food sources. Added: good on you for understanding hunting. If you buy meat in a store, you are still responsible for that animals death the same way a hunter is.
@DatBoiWhoRoll
Жыл бұрын
I just love KZitemrs making these sort of videos, it just shows how many people are ‘stupid’ in general.
@willfakaroni5808
Жыл бұрын
Not really, what does knowledge about specific tank designs do for average day to day life
@AP-gr3xi
Жыл бұрын
I like how everyone thinks that u can come in a random guys yt and comment “u need at least 69million Sherman’s to kill the Maus” tahts not how it works people just think tanks aren’t part of history
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