I actually like the fact that Ryan wasn't able to ride the bike at the end, goes against the cliche of "someone dies and now I'm so inspired that I can do anything". Ryan still not being able to ride the bike is a lot more true to life, which I appreciate.
@brinmoody
2 жыл бұрын
I along with I'm sure a lot of other people have a love hate relationship with Jodie's Doctor. I personally love Jodie as the Doctor, just have issues with a lot of the writing, which again I think a lot of folks would agree with. So I am very curious to see your thoughts on it!
@catwhowalksbyhimself
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Jodi was fantastic in the episodes I saw. I get bored and quit the show for other reasons, the writing being the chief culprit. I don't think they got this show. But we'll see. I may finish watching this season. I've heard the next season is better.
@JakeBrook_
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah i agree I have no issue with jodi as the doctor, I do have an issue with the way she is portrayed in some instances but I've only watched series 11 and some of 12 so I dont know if they have remedied any of those issues. I think jodi did a great job in her portrayal of the doctor but the doctor and the series writing are intertwined in ways: if the writing is bad it'll often reflect bad on the doctor, being the main character. Apologies if I'm just sort of rambling im tired lmfao
@pdegan2814
2 жыл бұрын
That's pretty much where I was with her run. SHE was great, and I liked her companions too. But the writing for her run was just not for me. I also didn't like the outfit she changed into, I thought she looked fantastic in Capaldi's tattered outfit.
@GrumpyOldGit-zk1kw
6 ай бұрын
Jodi was fine as the Doctor but a lot (most) of the writing was atrocious.
@bastiendamour1617
6 ай бұрын
I disagree for one reason, Peter Capaldi, personnally he is my favorite Doctor by far, anyway, in his era, there was a lot of very bad writing, but he never was an issue for me, himself as the doctor never was annoying, I never got bored, I always loved him and his AMAZING acting, but Jodie? Everybody says it's not her fault and that it was just bad writing, but no, her acting was horrendeous too
@robert_bbiii
2 жыл бұрын
I love Graham. It is a nice change in the companion dynamic. Having an older companion who isn't trying to find themselves is a good choice.
@SirVanhan
2 жыл бұрын
This was a solid episode that made me so hopeful for the new era. Jodie's Doctor came full-fledged, with interesting character traits. A Doctor that builds her gadgets instead of relying on the sonic screwdriver? Count me in! I couldn't wait to see what she would have built next. It was so Classic Who. Every character had something: the cancer survivor; the first companion with a disability; a young police woman that wants more from life. So many arcs we could have explored! You can really tell that for this episode, Chibnall wrote at least a second draft.
@charg1nmalaz0r51
Жыл бұрын
I agree. However for me after this episode it went downhill instantly and only picked up after the first season. I think i preferred them but i still had the bad taste of the first season that made me not get into it
@kateorgera5907
2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Graham's actor has been in the Whoniverse before - he played an evil alien clown on The Sarah Jane Adventures back in 2008 or 09 XD (would be epic if you guys decided to cover that once you've run out of Jodie)
@Jamienomore
2 жыл бұрын
I was working in London for 3 months in 2005. I can't remember if it was November or December but I was sitting at the Hotel Bar. A young Woman came in, I gave her my stool and we talked for ages. She had a great sense of humour. Then she had to leave for her work the next morning. It wasn't till she went away I realised I didn't know where she worked. The only thing I knew was her first name, Jodie. It was about four years later I found out she was an Actress and was making a Movie when we met called, 'Venus'. I think it was released in 2006. So I met the Doctor before she Regenerated.
@saintcarreyett
2 жыл бұрын
Of course you did.
@Jamienomore
2 жыл бұрын
@@saintcarreyett Do I sense Jealousy.
@PaulaDeming
2 жыл бұрын
oh my gosh it's here! it's started! ahhhh!
@MalcolmWolf
2 жыл бұрын
You guys should check out Paula's latest 'Things get Dicey' episode on her channel. That bag of tears was filled up by this reaction.
@PaulaDeming
2 жыл бұрын
@@MalcolmWolf oh yeah, definitely
@SpyroCynderFan
2 жыл бұрын
The start of one of my favorite Eras! Can't wait to see how much you guys will love Jodie and the 13th Doctor!!!
@andrewpragasam
2 жыл бұрын
I loved Jodie's Doctor from the get-go. Her energy was so reminiscent of David Tennant I automatically felt we were in safe hands. As for the 'tragic deaths'', I'm not crazy about them either, but they've been a staple of new Who since the RTD days.
@TheLibrarianOG1
2 жыл бұрын
Been watching the show for over 50yrs and I think this is my favorite Series, very classic who and I really appreciated it.
@PaulaDeming
2 жыл бұрын
this is a tiny bit of a Gals Spoiler I suppose but we've watched a few more at this point and I was JUST saying how much the series feels like the Classic episodes we've been watching!
@TheLibrarianOG1
2 жыл бұрын
@@PaulaDeming yeah it has that feel
@bemasaberwyn55
2 жыл бұрын
I am an unabashed fan of this era. Jodie has one of my FAVORITE I am The Doctor moments
@mjm3091
2 жыл бұрын
The main mistake Chibnail did during his whole run was to kill Grace, who had the most personality out of all of the new companions. I genuinely think this whole series would be 100 times better, if we just had Graham and Grace with occasional Ryan for whole season 11 and maybe most of season 12. Keeping Yasmin for later seasons and giving her proper attention. Also for me this was probably one of the best episodes of whole Jodie's run, definitely one of the best before season 13 aired. It was somehow solid start, cute post-regen confusion, ok plotline idea and really nice horror scenes. But I would say for me - it only goes downhill from this, until quality somehow picks up in season 13 (with few occasional ok episodes). Can't wait for your reaction to the Ghost Monument. ED: No wait - the biggest mistake was to not allow/make Jodie to watch other series and find her own performance out of the decades of the show's history. This made her lack depth in many episodes, especially when she got bad scripts. Mostly, because her performance just felt like someone playing a role for a singular movie, not a continuation of multifaceted character like Doctor.
@ftumschk
2 жыл бұрын
I think the lack of depth stems from Chibnall's scripts, as opposed to Jodie's not having watched previous Doctors, as the majority of actors who've played the part didn't "research" it either. I don't think many of the others could have given the character much depth given the quality of Chibnall's writing; Thirteen's dialogue and (written) character just strikes me as uninspired, simplistic and superficial.
@dcaslick
2 жыл бұрын
3 full time companions right away was also a major mistake. Should always start with just 1 and then maybe add a 2nd full timer after the 1st has established a relationship with the Doctor. With 3 right out of the gate I never felt like any of them were developing the kind of relationship I want with the Doctor.
@mjm3091
2 жыл бұрын
@@dcaslick Especially as we started with four companions and Grace and Graham took most of the spotlight...
@thewerewolff7248
2 жыл бұрын
regardless of what I think of the rest of the era I personally think this is really solid doctor intro episode. Up there with deep breath and eleventh hour for me.
@tbass94
2 жыл бұрын
Seriously? I found it the least offensive of her era but still so dull
@dutchman8887
2 жыл бұрын
@@tbass94 yeah lol its not absolutely awful like some of the other episodes of this era but up there with eleventh hour or deep breath? no way. its like the bare minimum with some poor dialogue and camera work. there is just no magic to this episode.
@TheGeorgeD13
Жыл бұрын
@@dutchman8887 Sucks that's how it was for you, but I definitely felt a lot of magic to this episode personally.
@FortoFight
2 жыл бұрын
It's interesting that you would think that the Doctor getting mad about Carl pushing the alien off would be something the Doctor would do because to me and a lot of people it seems like the Doctor has a really weird moral contradiction here in which she would allow the Stenza to harm himself (which I would see as basically doing it directly, allowing someone to pick up a grenade unknowingly is morally the same as giving it to them I would think) but then get angry at someone else dealing harm to them.
@jpwphoenix1701
2 жыл бұрын
I remember how weird it was when this episode first dropped. The show was totally different. Different music, a more-cinematic look and more companions this time. Also, there's no opening titles (apart from the quick burst of the new theme when the Doctor eventually turns up!) and no TARDIS either. I did absolutely love Jodie as the Doctor. She's so goofy/quirky, which is perfect for the Doctor. Also, what probably wasn't as obvious for viewers like you outside the U.K., was how freaking good Bradley Walsh was as Graham. Over here in the U.K., he's more well-known as a game show host and comedian, although he has done plenty of serious acting through the years. Right from the start, he's funny but also the emotional heart of the show. I can't wait to see you react to the rest of the season.
@ryanratchford2530
2 жыл бұрын
EAT MA SALAD HALLOWEEN!!!!
@firefly24601
2 жыл бұрын
Salad Man, we barely knew ye....
@GavinWinters
2 жыл бұрын
Very glad to see you guys finally reaching this era. I love Jodie’s Doctor and am looking forward to seeing what Paula thinks of her.
@cypher515
2 жыл бұрын
Okay, accidentally clicked on the video itself, but I was trying to save it for later. I know for a fact we _should_ have this on HBO Max on the TV so what I intend to do is watch it properly first _then_ basically get Paula's take on this Doctor three seconds after I've just met her.
@georgewaterman1925
2 жыл бұрын
Ok, let's do this. Excited to see what you both think.
@tomski120
2 жыл бұрын
Aww no "salad man" 😢 lol
@firefly24601
2 жыл бұрын
Salad Man is THE BEST!!!
@christianwise637
2 жыл бұрын
@@firefly24601 A true legend of the Whoniverse, taken from us way too soon
@NicoleM_radiantbaby
2 жыл бұрын
Eat my salad, Halloween! 😆😆
@TwoMenandaCanoe
2 жыл бұрын
Excited to see you watch this. I am torn on this and the next series. There are so many really good episodes. I love Jodi. I feel that the show gets let down by a lot of the writing. I don't think Chris Chibnall did Jodi, the Doctor, and the show justice. But you will judge for yourself. And you have made me look at previous episodes that I didn't like in a new light, so who knows.
@benjybriggs8434
2 жыл бұрын
I feel s11 is a pretty in-offensive season but I dont find anything interesting or exciting in it to make me want to rewatch it. Season 12 is when things start going downhill for me.
@PaulaDeming
2 жыл бұрын
I'm excited to be watching it and I'm glad you're along for the ride!
@benjybriggs8434
2 жыл бұрын
@@ciarantc7881 fair enough. I guess it's just my own opinion.
@mrtin9128
2 жыл бұрын
Jodie is a local lass, from my actual town here in Yorkshire, same as Patrick Stewart and Lena Hedey. So we can claim oscar winner actors, prime ministers, captains of the Enterprise, a Queen of Westeros,, and more importantly now The Doctor
@ftumschk
2 жыл бұрын
You've got a pretty impressive Brass Band, too, as I recall :)
@firefly24601
2 жыл бұрын
@@ftumschk OMG, is THAT where Brassed Off takes place? I haven't seen that film in years!
@ftumschk
2 жыл бұрын
@@firefly24601 I think that was filmed in a different part of Yorkshire, with the great Grimethorpe Colliery Band. Jodie Whittaker's home town of Skelmanthorpe has a very fine brass band of its own, though.
@jasonnesbit5114
2 жыл бұрын
I am looking forward to doing this journey with you two!
@darkhoursofday6250
Жыл бұрын
This was the first "uh oh" moment. For me it was the cold and heartless way she treated Graces Death. Literally just after the funeral she was joking about leaving and making it all about her. I feel that when people die to help, the other Doctors have taken it a lot harder. Like they cared more about people. This came off as "Grace died... yeah... that's too bad... so... we're Fam right? You like me right?"
@Sagitarria
2 жыл бұрын
I love Jodie’s doctor I wish more people were able to enjoy it
@Rick-Rarick
2 жыл бұрын
I tried... I really did. I can't wait for the return of RTD! Chibnall was terrible.
@Sagitarria
2 жыл бұрын
@@Rick-Rarick Interesting writing, good acting, interesting characters, good treatment of many tropes, took the story in new directions, found ways to add to the story of the doctor even after so many decades. Dr who is often not very good episode by episode. This round was good more often then bad. I think the internet makes us have a million expectations because we watch in communities. We expect WAY too much from Children’s television as adults.
@TheLibrarianOG1
2 жыл бұрын
@@Sagitarria thank you for this comment
@Sagitarria
2 жыл бұрын
Before the social media codification of dislike most people who didn’t like a TV show just didn’t watch it and watched some thing else.
@kivimik
2 жыл бұрын
I admit that I was uncomfortable with a few of the directions Chibnall went, but I believe this era was better than the noise suggests. It might age better in the long run. I liked it better than the JNT/Eric Saward era.
@joer3720
2 жыл бұрын
I’m excited for this, it’s taken me nearly Jodie’s whole run as The Doctor to get into it, far longer than it’s taken me with any other doctor. Now I’m on board I’m looking forward to another look with you guys.
@89Crono
2 жыл бұрын
Does it get better, I dropped off around here. I loved her as the doctor, but the writing just wasn't supporting her. It didn't do any favors for Capaldi either, but usually, he could just push past it.
@makasete30
2 жыл бұрын
@@89Crono it does not.
@PaulaDeming
2 жыл бұрын
@@89Crono I've been enjoying what we've watched so far, but we're only a few episodes into this series.
@bookswithike3256
2 жыл бұрын
@@89Crono Imo series 13 is the worst series of at least modern Who. Series 12 has some fun individual episodes, but also a terrible series arc.
@donaldb1
2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree about Grace. And I think it's perceptive to spot that Chibnall might be trying to match Moffat. Interested to see what you think about that aspect in future episodes.
@SunlessNick
2 жыл бұрын
After the fate of the universe stuff that was all over Moffat's tenure as the showrunner, I loved that Thirteen's debut episode was going all out to save a single person.
@kateorgera5907
2 жыл бұрын
Jodie is essentially my mom's Doctor, since she was the first Doctor she followed for the whole run (though I had shown her a little of the previous Doctors, mostly Tennant - but did NOT skip 9). I feel like this episode worked as a starting point for new viewers without alienating those who have been following all along - though I did keep shouting DON'T TOUCH IT! every time someone touched those creepy pods (Who has me primed for the worst case scenario). And I felt like the Grace thing left a sour note in many people's mouths. Personally, I think there's a lot to like about this era, so I hope you guys enjoy it!
@shallendor
2 жыл бұрын
This was such a good intro episode! Jodie is my 2nd favorite female doctor, behind Amy Dallen's Doctor!
@dwilborn1257
2 жыл бұрын
With Jodie's era, I enjoy the most episodes while I'm watching them, and even love some of them, but feel her overall series arcs are not strong enough. And I don't mean plot arcs, but I feel her doctor never had a strong enough character arc.
@imsquiddly6836
2 жыл бұрын
12: Where I go now, it has to be alone. 13: Will you be my new best friends?
@nedzed3663
2 жыл бұрын
Well his Gran died, there was a sad funeral, his dad is a piece of shit and he still couldn't ride that fucking bike, what better reason is there to go on a space and time journey with some crazy lady who fell from the sky. Oh God you just watched the Gravity Falls finale too? Jesus no wonder y'all were an emotional wreck after this episode. As for this era of Who, there is some DARK shit coming up, but there is a lot more light hearted than the light hearted than in the Moffat era
@peachesplums
2 жыл бұрын
I feel bad about this era. Jodie did the best she could but... I'll air my grievances at a more appropriate time
@geoffmason7215
2 жыл бұрын
over and over different everytime and perfect everytime
@joesmith8600
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏
@bmyattuk
2 жыл бұрын
While the overall seasons aren't amazing, there are a lot of really good individual episodes throughout Jodies tenure. Looking forward to these!
@jingtroc23
2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't get into Chibnal/Jodie's Doctor Who, i tried as i was all in for a female Doctor after the greatness that was Missy(Michelle Gomez), but they missed the mark so much imo. Paula's summary at the end i can relate
@baeleth
2 жыл бұрын
I love Jodie's Doctor. I think her run just gets better from one series to the next. That's not to say her first season isn't fantastic. Some of my favorite Jodie-era episodes are in this season. As always, I'm looking forward to following your journey on the upcoming ride.
@PaulaDeming
2 жыл бұрын
we're so glad you're here!
@bmyattuk
2 жыл бұрын
The overall seasons aren't necessarily the strongest, but I love her performance and a lot of the individual episodes.
@Forbidaxe
2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for the episode with Benny, I want to know your feelings and thoughts of Benny... Benny... Oh Benny, Ican't wait for you to meet Benny...
@ghostsurfer23
2 жыл бұрын
It's so surreal to see you two cover the current Doctor. I love it. So truth be told this may be my least favorite season of Doctor Who, but some positives: -Jodie is great. -Graham is one of the best companions ever. I really feel like he's reminiscent of what Wilfred would have been like had he been a full time companion. -This is a solid opener. -Tzim Shaw is a fun villain. -The writing DOES improve. I may be the minority on this, but I feel the next season, as soon as the holiday special between seasons, is genuinely great, and the season after (the most recent one) is decent too.
@nadinefeiler9204
Жыл бұрын
it is entirely possible i will enjoy your reactions to more then the run of the 13th doctor. IMHO it had so much potential and so little of it was realized
@flora5090
2 жыл бұрын
Have a feeling Paula is gonna absolutely love this era 💙💙
@robbmeadows4600
2 жыл бұрын
Jodie is one of those examples of a Great Doctor given Crappy Scripts....particularly Series 11
@BDRmongoose
2 жыл бұрын
I agree completely.
@YouHaventSeenMeRight
2 жыл бұрын
@@BDRmongoose Yes, Chibnall really went out of his way to distance his run as far as possible from what came before and that was really detrimental to Jodie's run. I can understand wanting to take a property in a new direction, but basically sh*tting on what came before is never a thing that works out for an established show.
@Legendary3Dgamer
2 жыл бұрын
Finally finally there doing it
@johna5635
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think I ever really considered that "The Woman Who Fell To Earth" is as much Grace as it is The Doctor.
@daffy8995
2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the era of the toxic fandom! I suspect you will like it, despite the vitriol in the comments section.
@willadeefriesland5107
3 ай бұрын
With Grace's death, you have to remember where Chibnall comes from. I don’t like a lot of his work, but I understand that he was a Doctor Who fan in his own time too. Just like Davies and Moffat. Look at young fan boy Chris and you'll get context...
@MsJule1981
2 жыл бұрын
Love this era, Jodie is my Doctor 🥰...hope you fun with it! 😊
@PaulaDeming
2 жыл бұрын
@stevehawkins1744
2 жыл бұрын
❤ Jodie!
@DaxRaider
2 жыл бұрын
as much as i hate the 13th doctor and especially the writing to the level that i not even watched the latest season, graham is borderline amazing. i really love graham
@jasonstevens9419
2 жыл бұрын
This is such a good season, two episodes not withstanding. Looking forward to episode 3 reaction!
@lexablack2316
2 жыл бұрын
Been trying to think how to phrase this, and not turn into one of my typical super lengthy rambles (not saying this will be short, but not novella). XD I've enjoyed Jodie's run, myself. And I know I'm not alone in that, it's just that some voices are a bit more loud and insistent on their dislike as the correct view to have. Going well beyond hate watching, in some cases. A problem not just with Doctor Who either, sadly. Also seeming to ignore, this is a long, long running show. If one era doesn't appeal to you, things will change. And burying others with really heavy handed doomsaying isn't going to help. The show has to keep going to be able to make more on-screen stories. Anyway, Jodie's Doctor reminds me a bit of Five in some moments (brighter colors, a bit more approachable at a glance and attitude, not cranky-at-a-distance vibes), but with some of the energy and wackiness of some of the more animated and lighthearted portrayals. Though not quite as animated as Four could get at times. But there's moments where you see darker glimpses, like confronting T'zim Sha and using his own weapon against him (there is some gloopy alien blood even if I recall). That more serious side the Doctor likes to usually keep hidden. Refusing Wilf's gun to stop the Master, till the Time Lords are mentioned. Many times where the Doctor could have stopped the Daleks for good (well, till next time they're needed for a story), but questioning what to do. I've always liked such conflicts in the character. "Very old, and very kind," but do not make the Doctor truly upset. As to killing Grace, it was a loss. I would have liked her alive, enjoyed her performance and character. But I also get it, motivation going forward, character development, etc. It's also a change from Moffat's "they're dead. But wait, are they really? I'm doing it again, they're coming back!" approach.
@brianadkins3880
2 жыл бұрын
Agree with others that this is a solid beginning for a new Doctor. We get all of the familiar stuff- new companions, alien threat, an innocent who is trying to help dies, etc. Also, The Doctor sounds like a crazy person lol But they quickly realize that's due to be an alien and a genius. I like that she makes a sonic screwdriver. Paula touched on something that you'll definitely see and feel more of and that is that this Doctor does not seem to have the anger and guilt the others had. It's kind of refreshing in a way but, unfortunately, loses the gravitas the others had due to their absence. Except for the opening credits and whenever the Doctor goes into action, I don't like the musical decisions. Murray Gold is definitely missed.
@whobp8
2 жыл бұрын
Yep. It turns out the woman who fell to earth was Grace all along. If they had called the episode A Fall From Grace, it would have been too obvious. I think this episode is pretty decent. Jodie is given some good stuff to do (building a new sonic, jumping from one crane to another, outsmarting Tim Shaw) and it serves as a good introduction to the new companions.
@brianadkins3880
2 жыл бұрын
There was a Tom Baker episode titled, "Robots of Death" and the mystery was if it wasn't any person on board killing others who- or what- could be doing it? Hmmm...lol
@iamthesolitarymaninblack
Жыл бұрын
The antisjw weirdos were slating the Chibnall era. The show has always been educational.
@MrPaulMorris
2 жыл бұрын
Overall, I thought this was a solid first outing. Despite reservations about a female Doctor, Jodie hooked me in from her first moments and quickly became my favourite of the New Who era (although I'm still a Classic fan at heart). Without straying into spoiler territory, I like that Chibnall ditched the rather tiresome and overblown direction Moffat had taken Who with the Doctor being the universally known and feared 'oncoming storm'. The Doctor has always been a very fallible wanderer and meddler and I think this is where Chibnal returns the character. Graham, of course, is my favourite companion--it's long overdue that we had an older man.
@caitlin329
2 жыл бұрын
I think this is a decent opening episode. Personally I find the historicals of this era some of the strongest. Honestly I wonder if it would've benefitted from more female writing. It's got a bit better in more recent years, but the history of Who is not one of diverse writing staff.
@darthsimian2196
2 жыл бұрын
Great reactions. Loved hearing your thoughts. I love this doctor and this era. The show has never looked better and the music is amazing my favourite revival version of the theme.
@timetraveller07
2 жыл бұрын
This era is the least favourite in the whole Who-History. But i hope you enjoy it.
@shadowfire1986
2 жыл бұрын
I love the subtleties of Jodie's performance over the course of this episode, you can literally see echoes of the physical and verbal tics of the past actors and at first it makes her performance feel haphazard but thats who she is right now and you can see through her acting her own version of the doctor congealing and I thought it was brilliantly acted. Its weird because for most shows I prefer solid writing to solid acting but for Doctor Who solid acting can carry even the worst script (and this was far from the worst script we've seen). Also hard agree, still mad about Grace. She was a compelling character and I hate the 'lets bond over the death of a more interesting character' trope.
@orchidwave2574
2 жыл бұрын
I seem to remember Jodie saying she made a point of NOT studying previous Dr Who...so any echoes you see of past doctors are probably just coincidental. I mean, in a way all the doctors have been a bit kooky, so anything she does that's a bit kooky will surely remind you of some past doctor.
@shadowfire1986
2 жыл бұрын
@@orchidwave2574 Possibly! And obviously a good bit of it there IS the dialog they gave her, word choice combined with the right flamboyant gesture at the right time could easily create associations that weren't there, still it was a very satisfying episode for me as a result, regardless.
@thegentleartoffisticuffs6983
2 жыл бұрын
I'll be honest, I like very little about Chibnall Who and still find it hard to sit through, but I'm still excited to hear both your takes on it! Perhaps it will lend another perspective that I haven't considered before!
@jaimie1938
2 жыл бұрын
Spoilers below for the rest of Chibnall's run One of my gripes with Chibnall's run was exactly what you touched on in this episode, whenever he wants to add drama or establish a threat he introduces a red-shirt with a touching backstory and then immediately kills them off in a tragic way. It's really lazy writing in my opinion and just desensitized me to character death, which made me care less and less about the stakes. I think this issue also speaks to one of Chibnall's weaknesses as a writer. I think he is capable of writing really great long-form entertainment, just look at season 1 of Broadchurch it was great. I think DW episodes written by Chibnall (including those in the Moffat's tenure as showrunner) very often suffer from feeling rushed, which is maybe because he struggles to keep a narrative under 45 minutes. Killing off random characters probably seems like a good shortcut to establishing the stakes and making us feel things. That's just my thoughts and opinions anyway, anyone agree?
@HenryDorset
2 жыл бұрын
I love Jodie!
@flora5090
2 жыл бұрын
What Paula said about the "lense of context" is spot on tbh. Lots of things about this episode feel very different when rewatching for the 10th time lol. Not gonna go into detail ofc bc spoilers
@justarandomveryintelligent8934
2 жыл бұрын
I think my issues with chibnall's run can be boiled down to two things. 1. Chibnall completely overhauled his writer's room and staffed it with young diverse writers. Not in itself a bad thing but these young writers were very inexperienced in science fiction writing and in just writing in general and chibnall didnt keep any of the seasoned writers around to workshop scripts. 2. Chibnall treated his run as if it was the very first season of doctor who. What i mean is he had the tendency to pursue any idea even if it directly contradicts previously established lore of the show. When your direction is like this and you hire a young group of writers you just chopped yourself at the knee in terms of writing quality. He stabbed himself in the foot and then the BBC tried to blame sexism.
@firefly24601
2 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I don't think it was the writer's room that was the issue. In general, I liked the episodes Chiball DIDN'T write better than the ones he DID write. With certain exceptions, of course.
@Reactordrone
2 жыл бұрын
What cunning plan will the Doctor come up with to survive being teleported into deep space?
@MalcolmWolf
2 жыл бұрын
Whatever the plan is, it will be so cunning that you could pin a tail on it and call it a weasel
@t123a698
2 жыл бұрын
16:00 Grace O’Brien, Astrid Peth, Oswin Oswald, Clara Oswin Oswald…
@captbuckyohare5585
2 жыл бұрын
Jodie had potential as a hyperactive steampunk maguver inventor type Doctor that she's hinted at being in this episode... which she's never allowed to be again. The writing and her performance just became a culdesac 5 episodes into series 11. Shame.
@Jumpyman_thegamerYT
2 жыл бұрын
Jodie is such a good Doctor!
@frenchiekolsson
2 жыл бұрын
I love Jodi as the doctor and her companions and some of the stories and emotional points they hit with her were exceptional ( but some of the story decisions are uhhh interesting ) I am going to have to catch up on the most recent episodes so I can keep watching with yall
@DavidSmith-cx8dg
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see Paula and Katrina react , think I felt quite similarly about the start of the Chibnall era when I saw it . A very different feel , and A bit dark and confusing .
@xxAKSHUNxx
2 жыл бұрын
Shame they killed Grace, she would’ve been a fun companion
@Calzaki
2 жыл бұрын
*Jumps on a sledge and gets ready to enjoy the ride downhill*
@MrChromeJob
2 жыл бұрын
I think this episode is great, I love Jodie as the Doctor, and I love the companions! I really dislike Chibnals entire run and style. Season 2 is a definite improvement but, to me, it's a lot of missed opportunities and plot lines that go nowhere and never really make sense. Sad though. For me, cuz I really really love Jodie as the Doctor!
@michaelfinlay6341
2 жыл бұрын
Oh Grace... My lovely,beloved Grace. She could have been a great companion.
@davidmichaelson1092
2 ай бұрын
I was very skeptical of Whittaker at first. Not because I cared that they made The Doctor a woman. They had been building towards that for a long time and I was down for it. But because I had in my mind type cast Whittaker. I knew her from the amazing show Broadchurch (if you haven't seen it, SEE IT! Many Dr. Who actors in it including three Doctors, Rory, Prisoner Zero...). And her character there was so NOT like I could ever imagine The Doctor. She was excellent playing that role, but overall she did not impress me enough to see her as The Doctor. (I had the same problem long ago with Peter Davison...I knew him from All Creatures Great and Small (which I still love and is so sweet). I just could not place him as The Doctor. I got over it with Whittaker but only decades later with Davison. I was wrong. She would not be one of my favorite Doctors, but she picked up the playful side of the Doctor as a nice reminder that not all Doctors are grumpy like we saw in the Christmas Special. She was good and I liked her companions. Like with Capaldi I do not think she always got good scripts and plots. But some are amazing. One in particular I love that apparently was not popular among some fans...
@ianpark1805
2 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, of the main cast only Jodie and Mandip have genuine northern accents. Tosin and Sharon are acting (pretty good job too) and Bradley just keeps his Essex accent. Most of supporting cast genuine northerners as far as I can tell. I think you are keeping up so far even if the subtitles were struggling! “Right, this is gunna be fun….”
@firefly24601
2 жыл бұрын
Northern accent + American captions = "Hoodezfield" 😆
@ianpark1805
2 жыл бұрын
@@firefly24601 That indeed, was a doozy!
@leogarcia1761
2 жыл бұрын
Yup Kat is STUNNING
@michaelmeehan5505
2 жыл бұрын
My FAVOURITE Doctor Who Ep is coming! I am SO STOKED to watch you watch it!!
@MikeWood
2 жыл бұрын
I've liked Jodie Whittaker in shows such as Broadchurch with David Tennant - that also had Chris Chibnall as show runner. So I had really high hopes. But the writing in her first season was generally so poor, and character development so minimal compared to the past. The writing let her down. Also, there were some things- which would be spoilers that I won't share, that caused me, for the first time since watching the third and fourth Doctors as a kid, to completely stop watching DW. I will just watch your TNG reactions from here on out. :)
@henryivpart1
2 жыл бұрын
Finally an objective assessment of this episode.
@jonathanross149
2 жыл бұрын
There was an awesome fan theory about one of these companions. It wasn't true, but it would have been clever. I don't know if it's a spoiler to tell.
@ftumschk
2 жыл бұрын
Best not tell - it'll be interesting to see if Paula comes up with something similar off her own bat :)
@jonbolton3376
Жыл бұрын
As the Doctor, Jodie is my second favourite (after Matt), just in my opinoon she wasn't given too many great episodes.
@TheAppeyes
2 жыл бұрын
This is probably my favourite episode of the Chibnall era, and dare I say the 2nd best post regeneration episode of new who.
@chriscoombes6751
2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Jodies Doctor! - I really don't know how to best describe my views:- while I personally thought it was a bit much of a departure from what went before & I found her tenure the weakest in New Who, I've not hated on the Jodie era as many have: it's still very watchable - in fact for my money, she's probably got some of the best storylines/episodes in all of New Who! I'll be very interested to see what you think of her run, & how she & Chibnall compare to previous Doctors & Show runners! Enjoy!
@PaulaDeming
2 жыл бұрын
I'm excited too! So glad you're here!
@cmc2838
2 жыл бұрын
Some of the best storylines and episodes in NuWho? 😂 😂 Come on even objectively speaking that's NOT true.
@chemseddineadjali
2 жыл бұрын
David Tennant 😎💪
@firefly24601
2 жыл бұрын
Michael Sheen 😇 🍵
@Rick-Rarick
2 жыл бұрын
I loved Jodie in Broadchurch but hated her run as the Doctor. Nothing negative about her acting, but the writing for her run was atrocious. Also, I thought there were too many companions. You never got the same connection between the Doctor and any companion when there are 3 of them.
@elijames8618
2 жыл бұрын
I’m not normally one to be negative about Doctor Who and there are obviously some good points to this era and especially this episode, but I have to say I agree with you. I heard somewhere that Jodie never watched any doctor who before she took on the role (no idea if it’s true) which would explain the way that even though she delivers the lines well she doesn’t seem to have any backing behind them. When you couple that with the lackluster script it definitely feels like it lacks something for me. Having said that, there are definitely still good elements to come!
@NicoleM_radiantbaby
2 жыл бұрын
@@elijames8618 Yeah, while I think one doesn't necessarily have to watch the show before playing the Doctor, you can really FEEL Jodie's lack-of-depth in understanding the character of the Doctor and how they should be played in her performance, imo. At least Matt Smith went and watched some Troughton before starting his own run. No, you don't need to copy the past, but understanding what makes the character tick definitely helps (and sadly, I don't think either Jodie or Chibnall do). ☹☹
@ftumschk
2 жыл бұрын
@@NicoleM_radiantbaby There have been plenty of Doctors who weren't previously fans who did a great job, but they had gifted writers like Robert Holmes, Terrance Dicks, RTD and Moffat writing for them. For me, the main problem with Thirteen is that she was rarely given anything profound or meaningful to work with. Chibnall's characterisation of the Doctor doesn't even work on the page, and his English is prosaic, uninspired and clunky. Not even über-fans like Tennant and Capaldi could have done much with the dialogue Jodie was given, I'm afraid.
@ianpark1805
2 жыл бұрын
@@elijames8618 Mr Tardis has done a recent video on the overt racism and stupidity regarding the casting of the next Doctor and he points out in that that Pertwee, McCoy, Ecclestone, Matt Smith all never watched the show before being cast. - Matt Smith watched some Troughton in preparation. Jodie had seen some Tennant but was asked by Chibnall not to watch any more before taking up the role. To whit, that’s the theory that ‘you have to have watched the show to be any good in the role’ well and truly danced on!
@caitlin329
2 жыл бұрын
I think the Doctor and Jamie clearly had quite a strong connection, and he always had others around. And I got a sense of his relationships with Nyssa and Tegan, even Adric.
@christianwise637
2 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, here we are at last. While this era of the show isn't one that I care for...like, at all...I find "The Woman Who Fell to Earth" to be a fairly solid introduction to Chibnall's run. I remember being really disappointed when this episode first dropped in 2018 (!), but in all fairness, Moffat had provided us with two phenomenal Doctor introduction episodes in "The Eleventh Hour" and "Deep Breath", so to go from that to this being just fine was always going to feel like a downgrade. And to be honest, there are a lot of flaws running through this episode, some of which will go on to become recurring issues for this era. But for the most part, this opening episode is a pretty good one on the whole. As an introduction to the main characters, this episode does a pretty good job. Ryan and Graham are set up fairly well, with their dynamic and the conflict between them being set up fairly well, while Yaz (in what will unfortunately turn out to be quite a common issue for a while) doesn't really get an awful lot to do. Grace also ends up being a real highlight, Sharon D Clarke's performance is incredibly charismatic and likeable, and her chemistry with both Tosin Cole and Bradley Walsh is really strong, to the point where she arguably overshadows the rest of the cast. I'm also not keen on the decision to kill her off at the end; aside from the fact she's easily my favourite of the characters, it feels way too early for her to die, meaning that it lacks emotional impact, not to mention the optics of killing off a woman - a BLACK woman, no less - to fuel the development of two male characters. And as for the Doctor herself - she's fine, I guess. It's a side effect of there being so many main characters, but she often gets drowned out by all the other stuff that's going on, and she doesn't really get very moments to shine. Compare that Moffat's two intros, which each only had two main characters they had to deal with (Eleven and Amy for series 5, Twelve and Clara for series 8), and thus provided an abundance of moments for both Smith and Capaldi to make a big impression. Jodie Whittaker sadly doesn't get as many moments to stand out when she has to fight with four other performers in order to be the centre of attention. On top of that, Thirteen's characterisation is rather scattershot and unclear, and what little moments of proper fleshed out character we do get are kind of a mixed bag. There's some stuff that I really like, such as the bit where she builds her Sonic Screwdriver, or gives a reassuring speech to everyone after the funeral. At the same time, there's a lot of stuff that doesn't work for me, like her "sorting out fair play" line, or admonishing Karl for taking out Tzim-Sha at the end, which gave me Tennant flashbacks in the worst way. For what it's worth though, I do like Whittaker's performance, she's immediately charming, and brings a great sense of enigmatic mystery and energy to the role right from the word 'go'. Also, she really elevates a lot of the episode's moments of comedy - the gag with Ryan's phone is a good example of this, on its own the line "not anymore" isn't funny, but her incredibly cheerful delivery makes it absolutely priceless. Aside from the characters, the main story is honestly pretty weak. There's some good stuff to be fair, the whole thing looks amazing, and is really well shot by director Jamie Childs; new composer Segun Akinola provides a nicely urgent and ambient score that perfectly suits the grounded urban setting; and the action is fairly entertaining, especially the climactic confrontation on the cranes. At the same time, there's a lot of flaws to pick through; the dialogue is incredibly clunky and workmanlike, another major downgrade coming off the Moffat era; the story is weirdly paced and honestly completely forgettable; and there's a real unpleasant mean streak running through the episode with regard to its deaths - not just Grace, but most of the deaths feel needless and mean-spirited, like Chibnall's overcorrecting from Moffat's perceived inability to kill off his characters by giving his canon fodder just enough of a sympathetic backstory before killing them brutally. I've sounded pretty mixed on the whole, but I do generally think "The Woman Who Fell to Earth" is a pretty decent episode, and a competent, if unremarkable start to this new period of the show. However, now the pressure's on for the next few episodes to keep up the momentum and build off this one to provide something great, and that's when we get into real choppy territories...
@ftumschk
2 жыл бұрын
That's exactly my take on this episode, point by point. I'd have said precisely the same myself, so thanks for saving me the time :)
@christianwise637
2 жыл бұрын
@@ftumschk Always happy to help!
@garciaexperts
2 жыл бұрын
I can't say I've ever truly gotten into Jodie's run as The Doctor and I don't know if I ever will. I'm sure she's great as an actor but the writing they gave her has just been atrocious. Hope you guys can enjoy it though! 👌 edit: Actress*
@Tantalus010
2 жыл бұрын
Same. I gave it the first two seasons, and it just never felt right for me (with a few standout episodes feeling extremely wrong). I stopped buying season passes after that. I dunno. Maybe I'm being too harsh on Chibnall because Moffatt's run was so stellar that it was impossible to follow, but I really don't think so. I think Chibnall was just a bad showrunner. As for this particular episode, this was the first time I figured out what was going on before The Doctor knew, and I didn't like that. I tried to chalk it up to post-regeneration wooziness, but it still bugs me.
@ftumschk
2 жыл бұрын
@@Tantalus010 _"I think Chibnall was just a bad showrunner"_ - I think Chibnall fulfils the 'producer' part of the showrunner role rather well, but not the 'chief writer' bit. In my view he's one of the weakest writers, never mind chief writers, to have worked on the show, and I found that his ideas, his structuring of scripts and (especially) the dialogue and characterisation left a lot to be desired. That said, I found a lot to enjoy in this era, but not without being constantly - often painfully - aware of these flaws.
@AcornRiot
2 жыл бұрын
I never got into capaldi's or Jodi's run because of how much old who lore they used. Matt Smith's era will always be my favorite for how self contained if felt and how little you needed to know old who lore to fully appreciate it. Which is why I'm hoping the next season is a lore reset like Smith's era
@bookswithike3256
2 жыл бұрын
@@AcornRiot There's very little old Who lore in the Jodie era.
@AcornRiot
2 жыл бұрын
@@bookswithike3256 Timeless child
@fourthdrawerdown6297
2 жыл бұрын
Hold on to ya butts.. oh wrong franchise 🦖
@Danileith123
Жыл бұрын
Jodie was so well suited for this role. I'll never forgive Chinbal for wasting that talent.
@Mokkari77
2 жыл бұрын
I theorize this incarnation was influenced by that feisty blonde Yorkshire girl Twelve met in the Xmas special with the Santa Claus played by Nick Frost.
@MrMaster7112765
2 жыл бұрын
So kicking someone off the crane is unacceptable but dna bombs are fair game? Cool.
@claudiadarling9441
2 жыл бұрын
Eh, I take it as an expression of the Doctor's inner conflict. The Doctor always has a viscous side they're kinda scared of and try to repress, but it comes out from time to time. And they don't like seeing that quality in others.
@MrMaster7112765
2 жыл бұрын
@@claudiadarling9441 but it comes up in the doctor multiple times, especially in this season where her morals seem so backwards and antithetical to the character because... I don't know. It's like the writers had a Bullet point list of the doctors traits but no idea of *why* the doctor has them.
@space1999
2 жыл бұрын
There's nothing worse than hypocrisy, she's preaching (endlessly) one thing but then does the thing she preaches against but FAR worse... its one of her (many) bad traits...
@MrMaster7112765
2 жыл бұрын
@@space1999 I mean I don't want to get into spoilers, but off the top of my head I can think of 3 times the doctors character seems fatally misunderstood by the writers. Here as I mentioned, then in 11x2 and again in 11x4. And that's less than half of 1 series.
@space1999
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrMaster7112765 ...and that's just this season... it carries on.... I seem to remember a straight white male being told off in flux (for being a straight white male probably) because of his reaction to the sontarans after they did the business with his troops, only for a certain hypocrite to then slaughter the entire fleet.... sigh
@brianadkins3880
2 жыл бұрын
20:10 You're talking about A Different World, the spin off from The Cosby Show,yes? I'm guessing you mean Dwayne Wayne? Yes,things do change as it was intended as a vehicle for Lisa Bonet and her character,Denise Huxtable but Jasmine Guy stole the show as Whitley Gilbert.
@ege-sucu1
2 жыл бұрын
I did not hardly critisize Chibnal & Jodie area. Now we finished the line of them, I can give my opinions without (of course) spoilers. Jodie is wonderful at playing the first woman doctor as she puts her act into the show. I did not find her the same amount of passion like 9-12th doctors had. It could be also because of the script but I did not see that from her that much. As of Chibnal, gosh I love to see his end came finally. His stories were pretty worse for me to watch and even loose my connection from the show sometimes. He likes drama and introducing different concepts to the show. The problem is that, he’s not good at combining events properly and either leave pretty obvious gaps, or quickly solve an issue like it’s nothing. The new ideas he brought did not create an excitement for me. This season was exceptionally boring as the other two rescued a little bit. I really appreciating how RTD and Moffat put their efforts to series, even passing stories to each other like River’s story. This seems to be very empty on Chibnall area. I can only wish you to enjoy from the show, while I’m waiting on the new stories that doesn’t include Chibnal. I also think that Jodie would do so much better without his stories.
@Riggswolfe
2 жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for Jodie. She's the first female Doctor and she was given bad advice by the showrunner (I believe she was told not to watch old episodes and see prior Doctors which cost her a lot of context) and bad writing in general. Her acting is great but I stopped watching during her run because of the decline in writing quality.
@gluuuuue
2 жыл бұрын
Ugh, yeah.. Toothface dude had to be my least favorite villain aesthetic ever, from.. any franchise.. Paula's comment about Grace's death made me realize something, and it's taken me this long to start to understand my issue with it, and I'll have more to say on it later, but.. something about her death didn't feel.. earned. And in that the writing felt not honest? I don't think people should watch shows knowing ahead of time a character they dislike "will get better" or whatever. For one, it's possible they won't like them later on, which will be sad but an honest reaction. But also, sometimes people disliking a character a little more intensely makes them appreciate the journey and development of the character (or the writing) more later on. (And, being told what's coming is spoilery.)
@joshuaoehler5796
2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the strongest Doctor intro episodes ever, in my opinion. I just love it. As for the tragic deaths, I feel like this has been missing from (or highly reduced in) modern Who for a few seasons. Everything was fine, no one got hurt (at least not lastingly), and although that's the outcome we all hope for in life, I feel like it had the result of defanging the Doctor's opponents and eliminating any real sense of threat or danger in the show. Finally, the baddies are genuinely dangerous again and, although I'm not a fan of violence, I welcome the stakes that brings back with it to the world of Doctor Who. Also the sad elements and scenes are realistic. Been a while since we've had much of that in Doctor Who. Grief doesn't disappear when the next day dawns. Ryan's condition is a real thing and not something that can be overcome with just "a few more tries". He has a disability and a crappy dad. But none of those things holds Ryan or Graham back from continuing to try and be their best selves. And I think that's an important message that's written there between the lines. You aren't disqualified from a meaningful life even if you've got long-term, possibly permanent, challenges in your life.
@cinemagoose
2 жыл бұрын
I do feel like a problem with modern who (as well as much of modern sci-fi), has been that characters don't die, but I feel like it at least needs to be earned. There has to be a balance between Moffat, who kills characters and good times but brings them back to disappoint, and Chibnall, who kills characters without ever giving them meaningful characters so the deaths just feel empty and unnecessary. I also think that the stakes of the show would help to become more scary, but I feel like it has to go along with making the world feel more continuous throughout. Like during Davies' first era, every single alien invasion remained in the public consciousness, which informed later stories and the stakes of them. Nowadays, each new alien goes to earth and meets people who haven't learned from past invasions of this very same era, so the plots seem derivative and this added danger means nothing.
@PaulaDeming
2 жыл бұрын
ooh yes well said!!
@joshuajoshua2732
2 жыл бұрын
I mean if you had no death or stakes or consequences it would make the show boring.
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