Personally, playing a game like RE4 on my phone isn't very appealing, but it's interesting to see it's possible.
@rayhaanalbuquerque1744
8 ай бұрын
It also runs on iPads with the M1 chip or above. This is very ideal tbh, especially since my dualshock 4 connects to it easily.
@suttonjones3605
8 ай бұрын
Completely agree. Cool achievement, but I'm gonna stick with my series x lol
@w21aaaaa
8 ай бұрын
Right? I know it looks kinda ass, but the fact that it ran decently on a phone is impressive in itself. I find it fascinating as a technical showcase of both the iPhone and RE Engine.
@crzybrit8150
8 ай бұрын
I agree, I think if developers went for older games like 360/ps3 era on phone they'd have a higher success rate
@victorxmaster634
8 ай бұрын
How tf did you upload the comment 2 days ago
@Milansmith20
8 ай бұрын
I’m interested to know how a heavy game like this affects the system in terms it getting hot and a huge decrease in the battery. For example how long it takes for the phone to go from 100 percent battery to 50 percent while the game being played none stop for hours…. Interesting stuff
@roncinephile
8 ай бұрын
Yeah that's why I'm thinking the setup needed to play these types of games on an iphone would require a controller peripheral that would provide not only some good thumbsticks and buttons, but also a supplemental battery pack in the grips so you could play a graphically intensive game without having to worry about draining the phone's internal battery too much.
@maxpayne69.
8 ай бұрын
2-2.5hours
@soiltek2015
8 ай бұрын
I downloaded and played the game early yesterday morning before the little one woke up. Got about ~17 minutes in and my iPhone 15pro battery went from 97% to 76%. I used the Backbone & couldn’t tell how hot iPhone got until I stopped my play session but it was very very hot. FWIW. THANK YOU Digital Foundry for all your hard work. Happy New Year!!
@HunterTracks
8 ай бұрын
@@roncinephileAlternatively (or, perhaps, additionally), you could have a fan built into the controller (like GameSir X3, for example) to cool down the phone, which should both increase performance and battery life (since battery drains way faster when hot).
@blindfire3167
8 ай бұрын
To be fair battery life might get a huge upgrade within the next few years if they're able to turn Toyota's solid state batteries into smaller form factors, so (even though I dislike Apple and how anti-consumer they are) it's a good thing they're starting to get into the AAA games being able to be played on a phone. Damn after seeing the performance....they have a long way to go....hopefully the increase in battery life from the new solid state batteries (that they better implement) will allow them to put even more performance, or hopefully any future Android phone/version learns from Apple's mistakes with things like using an upscaler instead of something like FSR or DLSS lol.
@Lauren_C
8 ай бұрын
It should be noted that while peak performance of an iPhone is substantially greater, cooling and power consumption necessitates relatively tight limits for sustained gaming loads.
@Rockito912
8 ай бұрын
My biggest issue with iPhones is that they have insanely good SoCs. Power efficient, great peak performance, but they include basically NO COOLING on them whatsoever. If they slapped one of those thin heat pipes like most Android phones do, dang that thing will run so much better under sustained loads.... Maybe even have RE4 on higher internal res with the same or higher FPS. Considering this big push for iOS gaming.. the 15 should have had that thermal solution in place. sad stuff.
@Adamchevy
8 ай бұрын
Personally I only play Clash of Clans on my phone but to each there own. My other ride is a SteamDeck.
@omarcomming722
8 ай бұрын
@@Rockito912 It wouldn't lead to any huge gains in performance, these devices are power starved regardless of how efficient they are, you can't get solid performance out of 5W. The heating can't be resolved in a significant way without a big ass heat sink or a fan, preferably both. Extremely thin phones and handhelds are always gonna throttle and run poorly.
@xtr.7662
8 ай бұрын
@Rockito91 the a17 inside this iphone is actually really comparable to the z1 extreme on the rog ally however due to many factors like memory bandwith and thermal throtholling the performance is way below even what a xbox one port would have looked like very similar to a switch port especially when comparing gta definitive edition max settings dont come close to the xbox one only the switch2
@potatorigs2155
8 ай бұрын
not it's not @@xtr.7662 People need to stop comparing Tflops from different architecture. You just can't And you don't how crap it looks versus the ps4 lol just stop . And don't get me started with geekbench
@mmo5366
8 ай бұрын
I’ll play it on my PS5, sure, but it’s very impressive when keeping in mind this is a phone. Great to see the in-depth analysis, thanks Oliver.
@R3AL-AIM
8 ай бұрын
Another thing to mention, it's crazy how good newer phones are at being able to run games from the 360/PS3 era. The hardware is there, we just need the software development. I think that's an area where phones could gain momentum in gaming, while also making people happy to see titles finally respawn. If they won't do it for the big boxes, why not the little ones?
@SiStockbridge
8 ай бұрын
Get yourself a ROG Ally. Been emulating X360 & PS3 with no problems and great performance. I'm sure Oliver would agree 😉
@LetrixAR
8 ай бұрын
@@SiStockbridgegood luck making calls and carrying it around on your nornal sized pocket
@LetrixAR
8 ай бұрын
The problem is, most mobile gamers don't buy games, and I don't think that AAA publishers would wan't to launch these games for free or even for 5-10 USD.
@Gravy1255
8 ай бұрын
@@wizzenberrywhat? As a software developer. Compilers do the compilation down for you to whatever instruction set you need? Sure you may have to fine tune some things here or there, but Apple has made that step pretty easy.
@SavantGardeEX
8 ай бұрын
No mobile gamer will buy a mobile Triple A game for 60$
@ryutx3717
8 ай бұрын
The really impressive is the difference between this and the original resident evil 4 on iOS wow
@FinnLovesFP
8 ай бұрын
I remember playing the original RE4 back in 2012 / 2013 on my 4th Gen iPod Touch. i remember that being impressive to me back then. But then seeing the RE4 Remake on phones now is crazy to me. Along with where we are with handheld PC's. The visuals performance for the size is insane nowadays.
@frosken8889
5 ай бұрын
@@FinnLovesFPbruh it's just optimised you can play this version in older gpu the pc has to handle more if it would be optimised you would get fps 100+ in PC
@justanorange2038
5 ай бұрын
@@frosken8889 it's actually not, what you see is literally the PC version
@XxxTheFireEmblemxxX
8 ай бұрын
The fact it runs at all is actually pretty wild. This is super cool
@rio4sho
8 ай бұрын
It should run. These mobile processors and GPUs are updating every year.
@DeadPiixxel
8 ай бұрын
I just can't believe how these phones still can't keep up with a 10yr old console.
@gulptopia
8 ай бұрын
It just makes me wonder what kind of performance the SOC could handle if it was fan-cooled.
@vinicio1089
8 ай бұрын
@@gulptopia yes, perhaps if capcom releases a port for android rog phone 7 or red magic 7 pro
@DigoWarzone
8 ай бұрын
@@DeadPiixxelthe issue with mobile gaming is that it doesn’t have active cooling so games have to use 60% of their chips power so it doesn’t do thermal throttling
@SomeJohndoe
8 ай бұрын
Despite the cut backs this is pretty impressive. I wonder what the battery life is on one gaming session
@dan.94.
8 ай бұрын
For a second-ever (modern AAA) release to iOS, Capcom is smashing it. Keen to see these apps see post-release support moving forward with a bit of luck too.
@krazyfrog
8 ай бұрын
Not sure what you mean by second-ever release because Capcom has a bunch of games on iOS, most notably most, if not all, the Ace Attorney games.
@enemyplayer
8 ай бұрын
@@krazyfrogabout to go watch some old Street Fighter IV IOS combo videos lmfao
@zoiuduu
6 ай бұрын
@@krazyfrog since when ace attorney games are AAA? lol is just a bunch of pictures
@quikspecv4d
8 ай бұрын
The new USB-C Gamesir G8 controller works great if your worried about input lag over Bluetooth
@3n3j0t4
6 ай бұрын
Bro uses a Gamesir controller 🤣
@quikspecv4d
6 ай бұрын
@@3n3j0t4 the G8 is probably the best phone controller on the market right now. Look it up.
@Lemorexp
5 ай бұрын
@@3n3j0t4what’s wrong with using it It’s great from what I seen
@jayryco
8 ай бұрын
Is it possible for future games reviewed on Apple devices to add information on the MacOS versions too? Since they are released in conjunction and they scale up accordingly due to hardware and ecosystem similarities, would be very interesting for the bigger picture.
@simpleton7
8 ай бұрын
Now a number of titles have been released, I think MetalFX is actually closer to FSR 2 than DLSS super resolution, despite the initial good showing on RE: Village for MacOS. Even with these low input resolutions DLSS would do better with alpha, hair, grass etc. Also with Stray for instance, there's not much in it, but I find the built-in TAA more pleasant than MetalFX. I hope they refine the upscaling tech further, but I'm hoping more for it to enable cooler temps and longer battery life on games with simpler graphics more than Switch-beating visual experiences. Apple has an interest in the medium term in performant 3D rendering in any case due to their headset.
@DigoWarzone
8 ай бұрын
This was Apple’s first attempt at this tech and they probably will get it right on Metal 4.0
@vinicio1089
8 ай бұрын
Yes, still pretty rough and frame gen would not be feasible because of the low resolution. I recently tried Forspoken on PC with FSR 3 at 1920*1080 the ghosting and the overall softness is pretty noticeable even from afar
@opinali
8 ай бұрын
MetalFX apparently IS just/mostly FSR (both FSR1 and FSR2, it has two modes). See report by notebook check.
@shassabo
8 ай бұрын
There are two MetalFX scalers. Pretty sure one is just FSR spatial scaling and the other has AI temporal type stuff like DLSS, but don’t quote me on that.
@opinali
8 ай бұрын
@@shassabo It's one purely spatial scaler and one spatial+temporal, i.e. FSR 1.0 and FSR 2.x, according again to notebookcheck (still speculation at this point, the smoking gun is that Metal includes the license notices requires by FSR's source code). So, none of them uses any ML, which is something that Apple never claimed but all tech press assumed as the reason it only runs on Apple Silicon. And the upscaling quality seems very similar to FSR (in same conditions such as input and output resolutions) although nobody has done a detailed analysis yet.
@PublicCommerce
8 ай бұрын
I'm playing RE4 on the PSVR2 and every time I play it I can't believe how good it is and that more people aren't experiencing the game in this way. I might skip the phone version.
@volsavious2319
8 ай бұрын
That's because no one wants yo pay 600+ for a console and then almost 900 for a vr headset. It's a dumb marketing strategy.
@MakeItAme
8 ай бұрын
Last Time I Checked the headset costs around 580, don't know which currency you're talking about when the Headset costs 300 more than the console, when it's Close to 80€ here
@kwedl
8 ай бұрын
@@volsavious2319 A few million people clearly do. And you people need to stop acting like everyone just buys a PS5 and PSVR2 for one game. Most people who buy a PSVR2 already have a PS5 anyway for all other games. People will gladly buy 1500+ dollar phones every new year just to watch YT videos and text their friends. People also never complain about the Index for example costing multiple times as much + a PC. For some reason people will only bring up price with consoles even though you get better VR hardware for way less. And don't give me shit like steam sales.
@killerspee08
8 ай бұрын
This was a stupid opinion...
@volsavious2319
8 ай бұрын
@scoRp471scorp471 no bud. Try again I live in Canada. A quick search could have saved you tons of time It's almost 900$ with taxes for a psvr2 here, and that's before the 650ish or so it costs for the console.
@djayjp
8 ай бұрын
Other than the dithering and sparkling, I never could've imagined that 300p could look that good!!
@eternalbeing3339
8 ай бұрын
Lol
@killermoon635
8 ай бұрын
Because it uses MetalFX uspcalling to 720p... MetalFX does same thing as DLSS/FSR do
@kinghadu9611
8 ай бұрын
When I was growing up and we started seeing cellphones in the early 2000s we never imagined it would ever be this good even the idea of a cellphone taking on a PS2 or Game Cube graphics was unthinkable.
@REAL-KINGSAVAGE
5 ай бұрын
Shiii i played re4 for the first time ever on my galaxy s10 bacc in the day 😅 played it once more on the note 20 ultra. Once i got the switch i finally finished the og re4 on it. Now playing re4 on the ps5. Barely in the beginning but it looks amazing!
@Kamrankhan23333
4 ай бұрын
i mean u never imagined there would exist touch phones too at that time lol
@josephalbert-ey6xh
8 ай бұрын
This is nuts. While I know for a lot of people playing a triple A game on an iPhone screen isn't ideal. Imagine apple taking it's M or A series of chips and putting them in a dedicated console similar to a steam deck or ROG ally. Stellar battery life and triple A game performance on the go. A future I'm looking forward too.
@nategreatgames78
8 ай бұрын
They kind of already are. Apple TV 4k uses the same chips as Iphones but they don't ugrade them every year like an Iphone and they are usually a generation behind the current Iphone of when it launched. I imaging the next Apple TV that comes out will have the same chip as the Iphone 15.
@federicocatelli8785
8 ай бұрын
At what crazy price .
@ordohereticus3427
8 ай бұрын
It’s more an ideal. Pro Max and the near full RE 4 Remake? Amazing!
@ordohereticus3427
8 ай бұрын
It’s more an ideal. Pro Max and the near full RE 4 Remake? Amazing!
@Der-Kleine
8 ай бұрын
Having played through RE4 Remake mostly on my stream deck, the stuff shown in the video isn't really blowing me away? Graphics and performance are noticeably worse, and with such low settings and a 30 FPS target you can already get decent enough battery life on the deck that that's rarely an issue.
@rickjamesia
8 ай бұрын
I have really liked Village on iPhone so far, but it does feel distinctly “not ready for prime time”. I’m still amazed that these games are even possible on something this size, but I’m more excited about what the future will bring. It seems likely that the next mid-generation and then full generation updates for consoles will not be enormous leaps for Sony and Microsoft, but we’re seeing mobile/handheld platforms really come into their own. This makes me really excited about Nintendo’s new hardware. Hopefully they are ready to show it off soon. Edit: Even though it’s not perfect yet, it’s still incredible to me that gaming hardware has consistently surprised me every year for decades.
@hldestroyers5734
8 ай бұрын
AMD Ryzen™ 9 7940HS: 😂😂😂😂😂
@oo--7714
7 ай бұрын
@@hldestroyers5734still crap
@mechanicalmonk2020
8 ай бұрын
I'm blown away by the progress being made both here as well as in the Box64 space on Android. I can play Fallout 3 on my phone! Looking forward to seeing where things will be in a few years.
@bulletpunch9317
8 ай бұрын
There was even somebody playing cyberpunk at 3fps
@Kdkjdjewerdnxa
8 ай бұрын
Fallout 3 sucks
@GraveUypo
8 ай бұрын
i cared before steamdeck existed. now i don't. at all.
@HunterTracks
8 ай бұрын
@@GraveUypoFor me it's the opposite: I care way less about Steam Deck after getting a decent retractable controller for my phone. It's way more convenient to carry, I don't need to charge another device, and it costs a fraction of the price. Maybe I'd care more if I didn't already have a console, but, as it is, a phone is enough of a handheld for me.
@ThinkTinkh
8 ай бұрын
You could've played fallout 3 on your phone 5 years ago 😐
@kaylee11ism
8 ай бұрын
Amazing work these few developers have done so far with porting some really recent AAA games with acceptable performance for a phone, like come on playable/enjoyable RE4: remake and RE: Village in our hands on a phone we put in our pockets?!?! Dope stuff for sure, I think with a couple small updates re4 could most likely get a more consistent 30fps lock from where it’s at now which isn’t bad for the majority of the time like mentioned in this video, but I’m sure some updates and it’ll be the perfect port of a modern game well optimized and ported over with care, I think this could maybe maybe set the standard of what our premium iPhone 15 pros/ high end iPads can do from here on out, all I know is if they can pull some magic tricks with the damn Nintendo switch with all the ports it has, and at least half of those switch 3rd party ports like Darksiders, borderlands 3, Witcher 3, crysis 1-3, the list can go on etc, but imagine if Apple puts more stock into different devs willing to bring their AA-AAA games over, even older game classics like fallout new Vegas, fallout 4, dishonored 1-3, bioshock games, rage, MGS 5, like games from those time frame eras and up would be dope.
@cheese_crab
8 ай бұрын
It's kind of mind blowing to have just watched John's Road Rash DF Retro and think about the speed of technological growth. Old arcade cabinets being orders of magnitudes less powerful than a modern smartphone's graphics capabilities is truly something
@liveandlearnj3209
8 ай бұрын
They should focus on promoting how well it can run less demanding games. The frame rate and image quality is poor enough to make you feel sick while playing if you're sensitive to that stuff. It's like the marketing machine for integrated graphics is back. Interesting vid
@Drstrange3000
8 ай бұрын
I'm very excited for mobile phones to be able to handle AAA console gaming as I love handhelds. With that said, I think making high production value games around smartphone's hardware and touch controls would be for the best. It is like how the Gameboy, DS, PSP/Vita and 3DS all had games developed for the hardware in mind. I think all of those details get lost and something slightly more stylized may be better suited like the new Sonic game on Apple Arcade. I think AA level games would work really well. I could see most Devolver Digital games going nicely with mobile phones. I wish mobile games broke out of the MTX, gacha hellscape they currently are in and made some unique games, but they would only make 1/1000 as much. No one wanted to pay even $5 for a high-quality mobile game back in the day. I'm hoping Apple Arcade, Netflix gaming, and now Apple's AAA gaming on iPhone will get more developers willing to have their games on phones.
@Bung_Holio
8 ай бұрын
Evidently they can’t handle AAA games cuz when any amount of enemies appear on screen this game turns into a slideshow. Not impressed at all
@mtviewuser
8 ай бұрын
real issue is battery life. If you play heavy games like these and charge your phone 3-4 times a day, you will quickly hit the dreaded 500 charge cycle count and loose half of battery. Till apple removes the draconian repair policy, I would stick with dedicated gaming devices.
@MaxLebled
8 ай бұрын
Samsung phones have an option for battery bypass, letting the phone be fed directly by the outlet, but it requires a USB-C PD charger with a high enough wattage
@ThereIsOnlyOneRandom
8 ай бұрын
if these games will release on android then it's not an issue as phones have HS option, so you can plug in and play for hours without damaging the battery, something that apple forgot to copy yet
@ThereIsOnlyOneRandom
8 ай бұрын
@@MaxLebled don't be a Samsung fanboy, first of all, many android phones have it, and every gaming phone has it since Sony innovated it, as their Xperia 1ll had it first from all android phones, and now almost every single phone has it
@chutcentral
8 ай бұрын
Cope harder 🤣🤣🤣😂@@ThereIsOnlyOneRandom
@DON666
8 ай бұрын
@@MaxLebled Thanks for the information, didn't know that!
@cooperv.6083
8 ай бұрын
I'm not at all up to date on tech or a big stickler for graphics so the fact that this can even be done at all as stable as it is is really impressive to me
@KJ-je9pm
8 ай бұрын
Its just amazing to see a triple a game like this can be run on a phone
@Naryoril
8 ай бұрын
Considering the iPhone 15 Pro is 7 years newer and costs more than 3 times as much as a Switch, even though the Switch comes with controllers and a docking station, I'm not really surprised. Actually, i expected the iPhone to do better. On the other hand, the iPhone is somewhat smaller than a Switch, which makes things harder.
@dzenacs2011
8 ай бұрын
@@Naryorilwhy even bother playing games on small screen. To ruin my eyes trying to see small detail for pc games that was created for big monitor? You people are victims of unhealthy products ads
@Naryoril
8 ай бұрын
@@dzenacs2011 Just saying: i don't play mobile games. I do play on the switch though. As for "why play there": During my commute with public transport.
@oo--7714
8 ай бұрын
@@dzenacs2011better pixel density making things easier to read compared to a pc. Also lighter
@dzenacs2011
8 ай бұрын
@@Naryoril phone mobile gaming is ruin your eyes same as non dedicated consoles like deck. No quality control. (Angry birds for phone is literally eyes killer). But Switch psp, psp ,ds - thats ok cause games is created for small screen there. Unlike deck.
@newroosterlouis
8 ай бұрын
The RE engine is really impressive scales really well at high and low end.
@Atlink
8 ай бұрын
I still find this to be incredible. You can play a full, non-watered down version of RE4 Remake... ON A PHONE. Regardless of the cutbacks they needed to make, this is still extremely impressive for a phone that fits neatly into your pocket. If you ask me, all things considered... This still looks fantastic. I really hope Apple keeps pushing their Metal API to the limit, as it's quite impressive. I truly believe that Apple is going to start moving into more powerful hardware for gamers. It may take a while, but they now have an entire platform (with their A-Series mobile processors and M-series processors) that are so similar that they can run these applications with little to no changes in code. And with their Game Porting Toolkit they're touting, and bringing Ray-Tracing to M3 processors... I honestly don't see how they aren't trying to capture that audience.
@LeesChannel
8 ай бұрын
300p is pretty watered-down, it's actually worse than the GameCube original's 480p, not far off from the 240p Resident Evil: Revelations games on 3DS. And it has pretty severe slowdown every 5-10 minutes.
@Atlink
8 ай бұрын
@@LeesChannel I’m taking watered down in terms of features. This is, for all intents and purposes, the same game as consoles/pc, just on a phone. It’s not like a special, cut down version needed to be made where instead of it being a direct port, it’s now some kind of on rails shooter or a side scroller, or just a stand in place and fire thing.
@oo--7714
8 ай бұрын
@@LeesChannelobviously, the steam deck runs it at lower than 720p (ps3 era). A phone will do even worse
@mathdeep
8 ай бұрын
Yeah, it is pretty impressive to see this game run on a smartphone but 200 ms and more of latency and the sluggish framerate make it a bad experience overall.
@Crashed131963
8 ай бұрын
I could not stand playing on a screen any smaller than 42 inches let alone on a tiny phone .
@baatar
8 ай бұрын
@@Crashed131963holy damn, it’s called HDMI
@nbomberguy44
8 ай бұрын
@@baatar yeah blow up that 300p to a 50 inch tv lmao see how that works out
@baatar
8 ай бұрын
@@nbomberguy44 it runs at 720p with MetalFX upscaling
@Cowboy_from_west
5 ай бұрын
@@nbomberguy44😂
@slalomie
8 ай бұрын
It would’ve been good to note the temperature and battery life. I wouldn’t get this for the iPhone but I’m guessing it runs better on a M1 iPad. At least RE4 is a universal purchase this time around. Will you review RE4 on Mac?
@viniciustb9431
2 ай бұрын
Having witnessed some of the past limitations and grown up as electronic devices improved, this is truly awesome.
@marco12377
8 ай бұрын
I could buy a Google Pixel 8 ($550 at 20% off, which I recently bought) and a Steam Deck OLED($550) for about $100 more than the iPhone 15 Pro all by itself... iPhone definitely not worth the price imo.
@Zvxers7
4 ай бұрын
Exactly, also it barely plays games at 720p lowest settings, i wouldn't call that "console level gaming", thats toaster level gaming
@olafmatyko2327
8 ай бұрын
I'm not expecting AAA releases to become norm on phones, so Android still holds the gaming crown for me just because of vast emulating landscape. It's amazing, that flagship can let you play GameCube, PSP and even some Wii and PS2 games
@eSKAone-
8 ай бұрын
I play it on a screen that size but it's strapped onto my head (PSVR2 baby!) 💟🌌☮️
@victorxmaster634
8 ай бұрын
If apple makes a handheld with active cooling and their m3 chip it would go crazy
@JonCom3dy
8 ай бұрын
And make it foldable too!
@bulletpunch9317
8 ай бұрын
Yeah crazy expensive
@Paddyhudson
8 ай бұрын
More power than the windows handhelds with better power efficiency than the steam deck. I just don’t think that’s the plan though; it seems like they’d rather shape the market to meet the products that they are already making rather than create new products to appeal to the market.
@Datenschutz_Datenschutz
8 ай бұрын
and an Apple Air Conditioner, too!
@jakoick1298
8 ай бұрын
That's just an ipad
@Camaro6460
8 ай бұрын
I would like to see if using a USB-C mobile controller (like the Kishi or the G8 Galileo) makes a difference on the input latency
@nanashi802
8 ай бұрын
Backbone One too
@TheGodilas
8 ай бұрын
Ps4 200$ > iPhone 1500$ lmao
@potatorigs2155
8 ай бұрын
bruh a ps4 is more a 120$ max
@marcebeats
5 ай бұрын
You’re comparing a portable device to a stationary device. Yeah iPhone is overpriced but it’s still impressive
@TheGodilas
5 ай бұрын
@@marcebeats ok sheep
@illusioned0ne
5 ай бұрын
@@marcebeats is it? Steam deck is cheaper and can handle current gen games and it's a handheld.
@urmomma2688
4 ай бұрын
@@illusioned0nelets see you taking a photo with a steam deck lmao. The two things aren't built for the same thing and the commenter already said the iphone is overpriced
@forlorncorns
8 ай бұрын
I don't game on my phone but I can't wait for games to truly catch up to pc and consoles on phones. Steam on my phone would be a game changer for sure. This looks like a leap in the right direction flawed as it may be.
@SianaGearz
8 ай бұрын
Catch up? That's not how it works. You have a 2W envelope tops. You can't break physics like that. The internal render resolution on this looks comfortably below 360p, so it's lower than in the PS2 era - of course per pixel complexity is incomparably higher, but still, without the power budget, you can't catch up, because PCs and consoles do keep upgrading to a fresh technology level as well, and they'll always be able to afford themselves more electrical power, so in end effect, you're just fundamentally going to have 5-10 times less performance to go around. Apple causes brain rot. Just the other month they claimed that their gigabytes are twice as good as the ones on PC, when justifying an 8GB mac, which is purely a lie.
@geoffreyturksmoney
8 ай бұрын
So, in essence, mobile graphics have caught up to an 11 year old console.
@RedPillAlways
8 ай бұрын
I just don't understand why anyone would want to play a game especially like this on a phone.. straight foreign to me
@Datenschutz_Datenschutz
8 ай бұрын
+1 and also playing on way too overpriced, overhyped hardware in general^^
@StewHeisenberg
6 ай бұрын
just let ppl have fun, maybe some ppl prefer to play it on something that’s a bit more portable.
@trics8838
2 ай бұрын
Let's not talk bout this,just think that playing it on a mobile is possible
@thelizardkingdc
8 ай бұрын
Got it for the Ipad pro today (after having beaten it a few times on PC) and it looks and plays great. It seems like there is a 1/10th second input delay but i got used to it quickly and its a AAA experience with the controller on bluetooth.
@SagoFanHD
8 ай бұрын
We need to see them on android natively! SD Gen2 and 3 have better gpu, performance per watt.
@xtr.7662
8 ай бұрын
It wont happen however games tend to perform better on ios because the system is much better for optimizing so i doubt it would be any different
@ProtopopGames
8 ай бұрын
As a long time iOS developer, I can say these devices improve a surprising amount each year. If iPhone 15 pro approaches ps4 quality, we could be looking at ps5 comparability within a few more years. They will only get better, and they're already mobile cpu focused, so energy savings for smaller form factors are built into the growth process.
@Acre00
8 ай бұрын
"RE4's first mobile port" Objection! There was a port of the original RE4 for iOS about 10 years ago that was Japan exclusive. Stop Skeletons From Fighting has a video covering it extensively
@PRATERVXEX
8 ай бұрын
I like that you can use the same save file on your iPhone iPad and/or Mac. I love the idea of being able to buy the game once and play it a bunch of different ways on the same save.
@HeyMyNameIs...
8 ай бұрын
The software engineers at Capcom are killing it. the way that the RE engine can scale to every single device is insane. I truly hope they release this engine to the masses in 2024.
@AngryApple
8 ай бұрын
that wouldn't make any sense. The only way it would make sense is by open sourcing it. Support is quite a lot of work and when your main income isnt the engine that its doesnt make sense to maintain that
@adam2178
8 ай бұрын
lol why would they do that?
@salvo27
8 ай бұрын
@@adam2178it was either a rumor or an official announcement about RE Engine going public. On why would they = more money, as simple as that
@SassyScentsTM
8 ай бұрын
I'm calling it now: Apple will release an Apple Arcade Machine with an M3 mini/M4 chip in it to be a Steamdeck competitor and this is just a test run to see if it'll run on a mobile platform.
@fafski1199
8 ай бұрын
If they did it would be doomed to fail. First of all, very few games AAA games have been or are released on MacOS/iOS. Also, in typical Apple fashion it would also be a closed off system that would be restricted to Apple's ecosystem (just like Sony and PS or Nintendo and Switch). The whole open nature and freedom to do what ever you want on the Linux, Android and Windows OS based handhelds, is one of the main reasons why they have suddenly rocketed in popularity. Also, finally again in typical Apple fashion, it would cost a small fortune for what little you would get.
@adamburke4738
8 ай бұрын
@@fafski1199 you seem to ignore the part where the OP said Apple Arcade.
@fafski1199
8 ай бұрын
@@adamburke4738 It's library of games would simply be dire in comparison to what the competing PC handhelds, Retro handhelds and Switch can offer. 200 or so mostly mobile games just ain't going to cut the mustard when it's up against huge back library of games that they all have. How the hell is an Apple Arcade handheld system going to even remotely compete against the Steam Deck and it's massive back library of games (50,000 on Steam alone)? Never mind the slew of new Indie and AAA releases. Plus it's Apple, so the handheld would cost you an arm, leg and kidney in comparison to the Steam Deck. Nothing at all, comes in cheap with Apple. Nobody would want pay out $800+ for the handheld, $100 for the charger, $100 for the case, $250 for the dock, $200 for airpods and $40 for the HDMI cable (proprietary of course). And especially spend that much on a handheld that has hardly any games available and most of those that are available you can play on the Steam Deck anyway (or even on a $150 Android retro handheld, for that matter). Plus it would come with a whole a bunch of restrictions placed upon it. Good luck in swapping out it's SSD, or changing those drifting sticks or modding it's case colour or even running any emulation on it. Hell, you just know that it would come with it's outer case welded tight shut. As I said it would be doomed and DOA, likely more so than Stadia. The only idiots who would buy it, are the truly deluded Apple fanboys. Apple simply ignored gaming for too long and it's now far too late for them. That's unless they where to pull off a Microsoft and just buy out every game company that they can muster (Which I doubt). An Apple console in any shape or form, is just a bad and doomed idea.
@greywolf1994
8 ай бұрын
I’d never play a game on my phone it’s just not appealing to me. But the fact that we can get this stuff running on a device that’ll fit in our pocket? That’s insane to me. Looks well enough.
@RiceAndRun
8 ай бұрын
I appreciate the ending statement. I see a lot of media; just unfairly dismiss these ports. It’s £25, in the U.K. and it is a portable version. I’ve played it a lot on steam, and deck; and I would happily play it again on my iPhone. Resi 8 does run better, and I’m sure the silicon could do better, but it’s a good first step for gaming on these devices.
@SHGames97
8 ай бұрын
Ever since GTA 3 released on mobile I’ve been a rabid mobile gamer (iOS, 3DS, Vita, PSP, SteamDeck, Switch & Powkiddy etc…) There have been incredible lows & I mean lows thats strain all credibility lows. Yet this decade seems to be moving into the right direction & truly hope to see much more of this!
@pikachu896
8 ай бұрын
Cool showcase. You can play the original, superior version since years ago though.
@Millahtime
8 ай бұрын
Really curious how this compares to the Steam Deck. FYI the macOS version running on a brand new M3 Pro is actually very good. Noticeably improved visual quality, proper visual settings, and ran buttery smooth with the default settings.
@dreamsofgrandeur
8 ай бұрын
I believe the A17 is about as powerful as the Steam Deck in peak performance, but it throttles hard practically immediately. I would expect the Deck to put in a much better showing.
@xtr.7662
8 ай бұрын
@@dreamsofgrandeurthe a17 inside this iphone is actually really comparable to the z1 extreme on the rog ally however due to many factors like memory bandwith and thermal throtholling the performance is way below even what a xbox one port would have looked like very similar to a switch port especially when comparing gta definitive edition max settings dont come close to the xbox one only the switch
@xtr.7662
8 ай бұрын
@@dreamsofgrandeurits not possible to actually compare the iphone and steam deck version exactly this time in res village we could geekerswan did a benchmark and the iphone 15 at peak performance performed marginally better than the steam deck hiwever in 30 minutes performance was substantially worse
@dreamsofgrandeur
8 ай бұрын
@@xtr.7662 Yeah, I was estimating based on that RE Village video. I do think it would easily outperform the Switch though, even while throttling. It seems to be roughly equivalent to an Xbox One but with very low memory bandwidth and fill rate problems under sustained loads. The CPU is obviously a lot better than either of those consoles though.
@xtr.7662
8 ай бұрын
@@dreamsofgrandeur its much worse than a possible xbox one port res village also was barely hitting 30fps at 720p low settings while the xbox one version was 900p 30fps its really closer to a possible switch port if it had a higher memory bandwith
@REALQDM
4 ай бұрын
Best experience I ever had on a phone. 30fps didn’t bother me I get the full RE4 MERCENARIES Experience with Backbone One
@jugulator95
8 ай бұрын
How does the iphone's heat distribution and battery hold up? Does it get way too hot to run longer than like an hour or 2 and will it damage the battery in a short amount of time of you run these higher end games?
@professordetective807
3 ай бұрын
And, now, RE7 and REmake2 are inbound. Let's see how those slightly-older titles fare.
@Enivoke
8 ай бұрын
Now we just need ps3/xbox 360 games at 60 FPS. Imagine call of duty black ops, fallout 3, Bioshock, mirrors edge, mass effect, etc… just WOW!
@TheVektast
8 ай бұрын
With Box64 you can play those on Android.
@Solidus155
8 ай бұрын
Just play on PC
@Enivoke
8 ай бұрын
@@Solidus155 that’s not the answer. I’ve already played them on PC.
@martinramirez9647
8 ай бұрын
But why? This baffles me, why would you want to play any game for that matter, on an iphone? If you have an iphone, you definitely have money to buy a console, and a pc too, why would you choose the lowest for.of the game to play it? Because its on the go? Its way too much of a sacrifice im my opinion, unless tou want to tell your friends you can play resident evil 4 on your iphone, if thats the case, let me tell you something, your friends dont like you.
@4partmedia
8 ай бұрын
Over heating guaranteed. The hair aliasing is bad.
@kevinsammut7246
8 ай бұрын
The main problem with these mobile ports is the lack of any active cooling. These devices are more than capable of matching a base ps4, for a few seconds at least, until it thermal throttles and slams the breaks on. Phones are not meant to be used this way, and its more realistic to port games they can actually run. There is a massive library of 7th gen games I would love to play on mobile.
@The_Ostrich
8 ай бұрын
Whats the matter haters, I thought the iPhone was more powerfull than the PS4 as you kept claiming for the last 5 years 😂. This newest iPhone runs this game like shiiiiaaaat compared to the PS4 LMAO
@thecastiel69
8 ай бұрын
It would look and run good on new gen snapdragon
@brettlivingston595
8 ай бұрын
Woooo. 300p sub 30fps and 200ms latency? What a marvelous achievement apple. I swear apple gets more praise for taking a turd than a potty training toddler.
@NEWaYRTON
8 ай бұрын
Watching this video while playing Resident Evil HD Remake and imagining how good it would look with the third person camera and graphics of Resident Evil 4 Remake.
@Praxss
8 ай бұрын
It sometimes looks great sometimes looks shit.
@Nucleosynthese
8 ай бұрын
No need to sugar-coat it.. most of the times it's sh*t :P
@Lxx00Jxx00
8 ай бұрын
I think it is impressive. If the eventual I don't know iPhone 17 (not pro, base model) can run AAA games, that will be pretty nice. The pro's are too expensive for me and my 12 is not nearly close to be needed to change
@rodylermglez
8 ай бұрын
Imagine paying from thrice to five times the price of a PS4 and getting an experience slightly worse than that of a Switch.
@100500daniel
8 ай бұрын
pretty crazy that in 2-3 years we'll play AAA games on an iPhone. But we can already play on a 15w Steam Deck, so I don't see why not on a 10w Bionic A18 or something.
@Datenschutz_Datenschutz
8 ай бұрын
nobody cares about playing games on horrible overpriced devices like M-Macs and iPhones. Why should anybody want this?
@Mycarisloose
5 ай бұрын
Nobody or you? Why comment if it’s not for you? That’s incredibly stupid don’t you think?
@Tofuey
8 ай бұрын
There are so many old 8th gen console games that could work so well on mobile. Idk why we are only getting new games like this. How is Skyrim not on mobile for instance, it could definitely run it.
@Warsik-rj6cc
8 ай бұрын
As long as you don't compare it with the PC or PS5/PS4, it looks quite good graphically
@disastrousgamer3177
8 ай бұрын
See it as a handheld
@Pixel-tl6fo
8 ай бұрын
Ah, a fellow Slayyter connoisseur 11:21
@Ferdinand208
8 ай бұрын
I always thought Apple had very powerful hardware in those iPhones. But it seems that a steamdeck with zen2 and rdna2 is much faster. What am I missing?
@yuvaldv11
8 ай бұрын
steam deck has active cooling, iPhones do not. Also iPhones are not gaming oriented and that's reflected in the specs.
@zap7759
8 ай бұрын
Don't buy a phone for gaming.
@MrPetrick90
8 ай бұрын
SD has higher Wattage than a Phone.
@slalomie
8 ай бұрын
iPhones do have powerful hardware but I’m guessing it’s limited bc of the lack of cooling and having to share system resources with phone functions like cellular and notifications. I imagine M1 iPads run RE4 better.
@xtr.7662
8 ай бұрын
The actual chipset isnt the iphone 15 pro is much better than the steam deck cpu and gpu however everything else is worse os, memory, cooling
@BreakingRaven
2 ай бұрын
i got this game on my somewhat high end 4070 32 gb ram i7 13700KF rig and its visually amazing, but i never tought it could be on iphone of all things
@PJthePlayer
8 ай бұрын
I'm a huge Resident Evil fan, but I don't like this at all. Mobile gaming is a toxic wasteland that I wish Capcom would stay away from. Not to mention, a phone is an abysmal platform for graphically beautiful and immersive games like this.
@greenlion6544
8 ай бұрын
Incredibly impressive. 2-3 years from now, the future phones will surpass consoles.
@Zvxers7
4 ай бұрын
The iphone 15 is much weaker than a ps4 Phones need 7 years ATLEAST to beat the ps5, by that time we would have the ps6.
@greenlion6544
4 ай бұрын
@@Zvxers7 Why do you make things up. By what metric? The iPhone 15 Pro has ray tracing, better memory a MUCH faster CPU, significantly better GPU than the PS4 Pro and, in all likelihood, next year’s iPhone 17 will surpass the PS5 in some keys ways.
@Zvxers7
4 ай бұрын
@@greenlion6544 it runs RE4 on 720p on lowest settings, and when you are running it drops to 300p Watch digital foundry's video before you make shit up
@MassiveHappyClapper
8 ай бұрын
Never had an i-phone and I never will.
@eternalbeing3339
8 ай бұрын
Thats the spirit. Apple is a terrible anti-consumer company.
@MassiveHappyClapper
8 ай бұрын
@@eternalbeing3339 Happy new year
@MassiveHappyClapper
8 ай бұрын
@@ehtasam1 Happy new year.
@swagbaba69
7 ай бұрын
good never liked iphone ,their only product that worth money is entry level ipad
@Mycarisloose
5 ай бұрын
@@eternalbeing3339😂 iPhones constantly living in peoples heads. You clicked on the vid(for a iPhone) engaged with a comment about said iPhone, then say you’ll never have one.. like who actually gives a flying fuc? This was for the original poster, you’re silly too though
@noname9935
8 ай бұрын
I think it's incredible that we are seeing something like this on a phone. It is still a generation behind, but the fact that it's running like this at all, is an achievement. It also makes me think we might see an apple gpu. Once they fine tune the software, they could throw their hat in the ring against nvidia, AMD, and Intel. There's room for a 4th GPU. Call me crazy. I might be. Who knows?
@DeadPiixxel
8 ай бұрын
I just can't believe how these phones still can't keep up with a 10-year-old console.
@Sopel997
8 ай бұрын
It's worse. They can't keep up with a 10-year-old console at 8x lower resolution and dumbed down graphics.
@oo--7714
8 ай бұрын
Only the ally gets the same amount if performance in aaa titles the rest don't
@oo--7714
8 ай бұрын
@@Sopel997 the graphivs are the same with slightly lower tecutrws but the iphone has some settings turned on that isn't preset on the ps4 version
@Sopel997
8 ай бұрын
@@oo--7714 try watching the video before you type
@oo--7714
8 ай бұрын
@@Sopel997 that is what the guy said in the video mate, did you watch it (the other thing is the lower res), even the deck and ally can't really beat the ps4 in this game.
@llorenstorrespr4409
3 ай бұрын
iKnow that my iPad Pro M4 run this game without one single drop of sweat at high settings. Crazy!
@daehxxiD
8 ай бұрын
The way it looks and runs... I realy wonder if this couldn't be achieved on switch with some concessions to bandwidth-heavy post-processing.
@michealadebz
8 ай бұрын
Switch isn’t even remotely close in power to the iPhone 15 pro hell even the 14 pro too
@HunterTracks
8 ай бұрын
The Switch is running a mobile chip that was already outdated and underpowered before the console even went into production seven years ago.
@dsidsidsi1000
8 ай бұрын
The iPhone 15 pro is massively more powerful than the switch, even when throttling
@daehxxiD
8 ай бұрын
@@dsidsidsi1000 Yea, I am aware. But the Switch still sports a maxwell architecture gpu and is technically capable of all the features that the re4 engine requires for low settings; including "Metal FX" which seems to be a rebadged FSR2. I'm not saying the switch would be capable to run the game as is, but rather, that if capcom wanted to, they could make it run on the switch with similar results to what we have on iPhone now. Essentially reducing poly-count on characters, removing or lowering dynamic light precision etc. and I think the switch would be able to make the game chug along ;). There is some dudes running the game on the intel uhd 620 in something like 512x384 resolution and it's almost 20fps; I think the Switch GPU is more cpable than the UHD620 (not sure though, would be interesting to find out) :P
@Whocares792
5 ай бұрын
Saw a dude on the subway in NYC playing this, blasting the volume on max. Shit was funny as heck
@daemonvector46
8 ай бұрын
Put it on 1.5 speed,this guy talks way too slow
@solarliquid_gaming5941
7 ай бұрын
I have a thing for on the go gaming as seeing a console level game on the go is really special to me even if the game has it hiccups it is cool to experience those games outside and even on the bed. While I may not play this version daily I think I’ll be launching it every now and than when I want to have some cool Re4 remake on the go
@Murphys_Law9
8 ай бұрын
Better off streaming it
@joxer
8 ай бұрын
Why no review of the Mac version? Lots of air and pro Apple silicon machines out there. And a more reasonable place to play this type of game than a phone.
@KORNdog1986
8 ай бұрын
It's nice to see Leon getting into the holiday spirit with his tinsel hair on the iPhone 😂 Honestly, I'm struggling to even give this a "it's impressive that this is running on a phone" pass, because it looks absolutely awful. This is a perfect example of a game compromised so much that they probably shouldn't have bothered.
@Mycarisloose
5 ай бұрын
Yeah you clearly haven’t played it on a 15 pro max, it’s actually quite impressive
@KORNdog1986
5 ай бұрын
@@Mycarisloose 1. Why would I when I can play better looking and performing versions on literally anything else? 2. I have eyes, and this is a video with footage of said version running on said hardware...and it looks terrible. But I'm happy for you that you're impressed by it 👍
@WarAbuser
8 ай бұрын
Stuff like this really shows that the Switch 2 is desperately needed.
@augustofretes
8 ай бұрын
Great work. I'd expected the game to run and look better than on a PS4 to be honest. I think it'd be interesting to see how well it performs on M1, M2 iPads, or a high-end Macbook Pro as well.
@crestofhonor2349
8 ай бұрын
It performs super well on M1 and better hardware from what I've seen from people online
@xtr.7662
8 ай бұрын
Seeing how village turned out it was impossible to expect it to reach even xbox one performance and it turned out to be true
@93xfan
8 ай бұрын
Apple has a terrible gaming ecosystem. They repeatedly remove the ability to play purchased games. Just shameful.
@oo--7714
8 ай бұрын
So does android who cares though
@LeeLee-fi7mx
8 ай бұрын
Considering how much more powerful and efficient the gpu is in the snapdragon gen3, it would be interesting to see some of these game ports come to android.
@jakoick1298
8 ай бұрын
it's not much more powerful or efficient. if anything most of then gen 3 phones are hitting 45-50 C temps on normal benchmark tests
@Glatroz
8 ай бұрын
That's a bold claim seeing as how in recent years Snapdragon's been a major disappointment. I guess we'll see.
@XXXLaurel
8 ай бұрын
These games are already a gamble on iOS since most mobile gamers don't buy games, even less AAA priced games, you never see games like this come to Android because
@LeeLee-fi7mx
8 ай бұрын
@XXXLaurel "these games require more cpu power than gpu power" 😂 Despite the active cooling and higher tdp, the cpu in the Ps4 is much slower than the a17 and snapdragon gen 2 and 3 but look at how much better the ps4 runs this game.
@onizuka4534
8 ай бұрын
Not that impressive actually. Don't forget - PS4 is more than 10 years old, and even in 2013 it wasn't a powerhouse by any means, 400$ mediocre 2013 gaming machine is still superior than 1000$ 2023 device. Just imagine If PSP was worse than 1994's console)
@Anna_Rae
8 ай бұрын
Leon's hair looks pretty rough
@tortemir4689
8 ай бұрын
Dude it’s on a phone. Just think about how far we’ve come. I remember that old resident 4 game iOS Years ago it’s hard to believe how far we’ve come
@lee1130fromtwitter
8 ай бұрын
So what you're saying is resident evil Revelations on 3DS is still the best portable version of a resident evil game not on a steam deck.
@RQUKOfficial
8 ай бұрын
Impressive to say it's running on a phone. Ouch at the hair quality though. I'll stick to the PC version. :)
@BestHunterSniper
7 ай бұрын
People don’t realize it’s in phone. Playing re4 on iPhone at 720p 30fps is great and unexpected
@Zvxers7
4 ай бұрын
Apple is calling it "console level gaming" so it should be as strong as a ps5 , at the VERY least a ps4 Yet it gets shit on by the ps4, a 10+ year old console you can buy for 200$ and maybe even cheaper
@168original7
4 ай бұрын
It is lower than 720p
@aL3891_
8 ай бұрын
As a pc snob and apple hater I'm pretty dismissive of iPhone gaming but it's great to have proper objective, technical coverage of there Apple port efforts, elsewhere usually its either blind hype or blind hate :) It's pretty cool to see a game like this running on a phone, but the price/performance is pretty dire... it's technically interesting though!
@MarcosFMolina
7 ай бұрын
I think the cool aspect about this is that you can play it on ALL your Apple devices. You purchase a single copy and you get it on your Mac, on your iPad, on your iPhone, and hopefully on your Apple TV eventually too. That would be quite a killer feature to have. It’s kinda like what Steam is doing, but better integrated.
@Chasm9
8 ай бұрын
Boy, that input lag renders it practically unplayable.
@Simpyphus
8 ай бұрын
I was genuinely anticipating better visuals and performance. Its not a huge leap forward compared to Switch Lite.
@michaelhutchings6602
8 ай бұрын
The difference is this is a phone that upgrades every year. Apple's SoC are amazing and rapidly improve. Give it a few years and you will have a portable PS4 in your pocket.
@Nucleosynthese
8 ай бұрын
It's just not super powerfull hardware. Dedicated gaming handhelds will always be better I think.
@Simpyphus
8 ай бұрын
@@Nucleosynthese The line is blurred now given major portable gaming devices are pretty standard mobile hardware at this point. I expected the iPhone 15 to be less powerful than a Steam Deck, but the gap is a lot bigger than I expected. Like I suggested, it seems more like an overclocked Switch Lite with a memory/storage upgrade.
@tyo101
8 ай бұрын
Happy New Year to everyone in Digital Foundry and its community!
@Poever
8 ай бұрын
We’ve come a long way from the original RE4 iPhone port from the late 2000s regardless of this port’s outcome
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