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This actually looks like a ton of fun! Imagine taking an ironman character into LFR lol. Loved the vid :)
@andru-davidsimionoiu5286
Жыл бұрын
the fuck?
@Spongeyknight6491
5 ай бұрын
dungeons aren't allowed in ironman challenges Period
@henrikh3089
Жыл бұрын
I like that you showed your entire journey, skill issues included, was fun! Earned a sub ❤
@zuggypoo
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@lucasbergqvist5242
Жыл бұрын
I hope blizzard implement theese modes on retail. A hardcore Mode or a mode that upscale old zones and add reward to id should add a lot of replayability to The game... Old content need to be relevant again.
@zuggypoo
Жыл бұрын
agreed
@komaoff4240
Жыл бұрын
It would be very cool if you can do a Retail Hardcore episode, your vids are really Fun to watch !
@geneabrego9759
Жыл бұрын
off the top of my head you only need to spend about an hour or so in hellfire to unlock all those quests in nagrand. you need to do the quest where you follow the spirit wolf up the hill to the mag'har camp and first meet them (you get this really early in the first hub), before that none of them in outland will talk to you.
@pecoliky8793
Жыл бұрын
Hear me out guys Ironman But in vanilla
@luckyluc9972
Жыл бұрын
Been playing retail recently after lots of runescape and Ascension wow and I'm pleasantly surprised with the game. It feels pretty limited in scope (the PvE content available is basically all the dungeons on Mythic+ and the 1 raid on all difficulties). But I'm having fun playing on the auction house, and also love playing the new Evoker class
@tylerblue9691
Жыл бұрын
My friend and I took it a step further We did a 2 man, hardcore, NO GEAR, only weapon! It was pretty fun and got difficult around level 30
@zuggypoo
Жыл бұрын
sounds like a blast!
@Ezmeragon
Жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me why tabards and shirts are not allowed to be equipped? I mean they don't provide any benefit at all and most of them are just for cosmetic. I'm confused.
@crowzeyy
Жыл бұрын
It could be the rep bonuses tabards give you
@hypnopump
Жыл бұрын
this@@crowzeyy
@JadeRavenn
Жыл бұрын
its just so their system code can be simpler. It just checks if green or higher items are equipped at all, so since shirts and tabards are (mostly) green quality at least it flags you as failed if you equip them
@Mabbio01
Жыл бұрын
I think greens are okay to use and I wouldn't mind playing an official classic retail server.
@DEUS_VULT_INFIDEL
Жыл бұрын
Anybody that sincerely thinks Iron Man is easier than Classic HC is being utterly foolish. Without heirlooms, without stat increases of any kind, without profession equipment, fighting mobs that almost all have some kind of mechanic that the likes of actual gear would render easily ignored, compared to having stats, having professions, having consumables, being able to run dungeons, and all of that, it's no contest. And the thing is Iron Man only gets harder the farther you advance. The entire world scales with you, so you never have green quests you can go and safely knock out or zones you can safely farm in full of easy green enemies. And the higher level you become the more and more stats you're missing out on, as items progressively have more and more stats, and weapons deal more and more damage. It's indisputable. Iron Man Retail is harder than HC Classic. Still miffed that I lost my run by accidentally drinking a quest potion on my 58 Warlock.
@MidwestBoom
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, because you're playing Iron Man. If you played Iron Man on classic it would be harder. Guy doesn't even have health pots 😂
@DEUS_VULT_INFIDEL
Жыл бұрын
@@MidwestBoom It unironically wouldn't, unless you go out of your way to make it so. In Classic you can always grind green mobs while doing easy quests, which have a lower chance to crit and even hit you, and whose spells are much more likely for you to just straight resist. You literally can't do that in Retail because everything scales with you, so every fight worth xp you get into is essentially fair ignoring the fact you're intentionally missing out on hundreds if not thousands of stats. Add to that most mobs don't have dangerous mechanics and every rotation being super simple compared to Retail and it's undeniable. And health pots aren't allowed in Iron Man. Best you have for healing outside of food/class abilities is bandages you buy off the AH.
@brandonkruse6412
Жыл бұрын
@@DEUS_VULT_INFIDELRetail also has better class design across the board, giving all classes more tools and available power early on. Not to mention much faster base leveling without heirlooms, better quest rewards and Chromie Time, letting you level practically anywhere in the game. If you choose to level in Legion, you get access to your order hall, followers you aid in combat and zone abilities to help with quests. Since you can’t use green+ items, having access to WoD or Legion zone abilities and followers would help a lot.
@DEUS_VULT_INFIDEL
Жыл бұрын
@@MidwestBoom Since either YT or you decided to hide or delete your other comment, no, you can't Iron Man to 70 through picking flowers. That's a profession, and professions aren't allowed in Iron Man either. You can still use bandages, though, because they don't require a profession in retail to use, since First Aid is no longer a thing. Tailors make them these days.
@androshernandez7515
11 ай бұрын
This was very pleasant to watch, I hope you get part 2 at some point even if this is a bit old video
@zombie587
Жыл бұрын
I like this video your voice is nice and your essay was concise and informative keep up the good work
@zuggypoo
Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@ReyRey277
11 ай бұрын
Underrated video this prolly took so long to make heres a sub bro
@mcfarvo
Жыл бұрын
4:10 dude thought it was Mitch Jones
@bikespj22
Жыл бұрын
Wow is one of the few games you can be terrible at and be a content creator and be amazing at and no one gives a crap.
@zuggypoo
Жыл бұрын
damn its almost like everyone has an equal opportunity to make content no matter their skill at the game
@PhenomRom
Жыл бұрын
This sentence is impossible to read
@pirategoku6238
11 ай бұрын
Glad I didn’t have a que for wrath launch :) I already lost 2 level 30s classes in Sm *Dying inside* :) hardcore fun
@kerupt_
11 ай бұрын
What mod is the one that makes your character move independently from your camera and ui. Looks like it has a good feel
@zuggypoo
11 ай бұрын
another account to use as a camera man 😂
@kerupt_
11 ай бұрын
@zuggypoo oh okay lol, cheers bro
@CarburetorThompson
Жыл бұрын
Back in wod I had a melee only hunter iron man, would not recommend
@alex_ambro
Жыл бұрын
Nice and chill vid, keep up the good work! Imma go follow you on Twitch :)
@zuggypoo
Жыл бұрын
Legend!
@Highfy210
Жыл бұрын
been playing ironman on retail for the last 2 weeks or so and its been a blast for me died at 60 on my hunter then a bunch on the journey back to 60 ive learned avoid rares lol
@Spongeyknight6491
5 ай бұрын
see this is what hardcore should be
@megamanx627
Жыл бұрын
Good video speaking from someone that's done dragonflight hardcore myself I found that 1-10 Is way easier obviously than classic but The difficulty scale very much does depend on which zone you picked a quest in. Because let's be real Most trash mobs and dragonflight have more mechanics than raid bosses in classic. I don't know I think to be cool if you did a hardcore dragonfly character Cause I hate this mindset that oh, you can't die in dragonflight I've done it and I assure you you can. And scaling does work both ways You're not going to feel it right away but If your level thirty especially as a milae And you haven't gotten a new weapon since level ten you notice it. I do think casters are easier Then me like characters as well I don't know I prefer hardcore dragonflight overclassic I like having more buttons to press personally. And I think the classes are just more fun to play But that's me
@brandonboss6868
Жыл бұрын
Is retail hardcore not picking a spec? I forget which one is not picking a spec.
@skylightts2292
Жыл бұрын
Did this same thing. Leveled an ele shaman as Ironman due to savix vids. Got to lvl 32, felt wayyyy too easy (I went wrath) and just quit. To be fair, it’s really not that hard till dragon isles. If you find any difficulty with the quests, it’s simply cause you didn’t know the mechanics. Sucks, was hoping it would be hard
@megamanx627
Жыл бұрын
One thing I will say Is four dragon flight hardcore 32 Is a solid level but I think milli characters are just way harder than casters are. Speaking from someone that's gotten one shotted Is randomly twice I play a protection palatin personally. I'm not really a castor person that's why but From what i've seen, it's an easier challenge for casters than it is for malay just because. Well manners not really a thing in dragonflight It is and Classic I don't know I enjoy Is dragonflight hardcore way more than classic hardcore personally. I like having more than one button for thirty levels But that's me.
@skoorbals
Жыл бұрын
leave mitch alone
@xbon1
4 ай бұрын
lol prove you can get to 70 with regular gear drops. all it takes is one bad tank in a dungeon and the whole group dies.
@zuggypoo
4 ай бұрын
well 1 click and you can leave before you die, but i just wouldn't do any dungeons lmao
@secatoma
Жыл бұрын
Hahaha I'm definitely going to give it a try
@brandonkruse6412
Жыл бұрын
Draenor leveling is some of the best the game’s ever had. Feels like true Warcraft. Not like MoP or Dragonflight where everything feels happy and colorful. You might consider leveling in Legion if you can still access the Order Hall, followers and zone abilities.
@steffen7478
Жыл бұрын
real hardcore in retail is playing without ever picking a talent specialization. whatever skills you have at level 10, are all you really get. its a pain, and you cannot do TW legion content
@JadeRavenn
Жыл бұрын
thats the old iron man version. It's not really doable anymore with the dragonflight talent system, if you wanted to do it not iron man and use good gear maybe but it would be extremely difficult and boring imo
@rox2632
Жыл бұрын
Im going to force my friends to try this with me at some point lmao
@Astronic
Жыл бұрын
Are you gonna play orc warrior in classic hc? :o
@zuggypoo
Жыл бұрын
gonna try!
@Socrates21stCentury
Жыл бұрын
Gz for the tries !!!
@skoorbals
Жыл бұрын
bro kick cast lol
@90kalos1
Жыл бұрын
Dying from a spell while pummel is off cd...cringe
@zuggypoo
Жыл бұрын
yes, thank you for repeating what i said in the video, im sure you've never missed a int before 😜
@90kalos1
Жыл бұрын
@@zuggypoo oh definitely have, feel real cringe when I do it lol
@BigWoc
Жыл бұрын
another W upload from zuggypoo
@zuggypoo
Жыл бұрын
@BigWoc
Жыл бұрын
@@zuggypoo when will the next stream be
@tillson8686
Жыл бұрын
You deserve way more subs! I don't know what it is but your voice and narration has the perfect vibe for videos like this and the editing is smooth as anything. Keep it up, enjoyed every single video so far!
@zuggypoo
Жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@PhenomRom
Жыл бұрын
He sounds like an osrs KZitemr and I’m here for it
@Mycooloriginal
Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to mail my bank alt.
@cmbara102
Жыл бұрын
prove it
@morten8586
Жыл бұрын
I dont agree. Retail leveling is so much faster and there for its much more easy to reach max lvl on retails hardcore. Less playtime = less chance of a dc death keep that in mind
@rct6518
Жыл бұрын
Retail WoW. Gross.
@4verage417
Жыл бұрын
I loaded it up today to mess around on Classic Era and come to find out they updated the UI to also include "Body Type 1 & Body Type 2" If this is what the people who are making the game are focusing on then its doomed. Even the 20 year old version of it.
@assboi
Жыл бұрын
wow players are, and always have been, gay. idk why you're complaining now, when this has been the case for 20 years
@4verage417
Жыл бұрын
Explain to me what being gay and being a Male or Female has to do with one or the other? Because theoretically you cant be "gay" without liking the same gender right? So where does BODY TYPE 1 & BODY TYPE 2 come into this scenario? @@assboi
@assboi
Жыл бұрын
@@4verage417 because it's some gay ahh sh it
@ragerz75
Жыл бұрын
What exactly changes about the overall gameplay….at all? It’s so inconsequential. The body type 1 and 2 things are more a trans/enby thing but I don’t expect you to know or care about any of that. In fact most ppl don’t care.
@hypnopump
Жыл бұрын
the overwhelming majority do not care, yeah@@ragerz75
@lazydave9761
Жыл бұрын
fucking lol.
@rahar_peru
Жыл бұрын
Go hardcore ironman on classic... ill send u a cookie from peru if u make it. No joke, i will...
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