Great Response. Also, for all those wondering, Dr. Falk never told me what to do or even asked me to pull my video. I did that after I was convinced it was wrong and the evidence actually fit with the late date. Follow the evidence, and forget your pride.
@VincenzoRutiglianoDiaz
3 жыл бұрын
I wish there were more responsible youtubers like you
@christianbensel
3 жыл бұрын
Great, thanks for clarity and integrity.
@watchinginthelight
3 жыл бұрын
Not just the content. But the sheer production value shows you put a lot of time into that one. Ignoring/overcoming that sunk cost, must have been tough. Good on you IP.
@marcfofi688
3 жыл бұрын
@KingOpp Santi How is being intellectually honest and taking down misinformation cowardly?
@Monday2705
3 жыл бұрын
IP much respect to you for your intellectual honesty! This speaks volumes and goes to show that you care about the truth. We don’t want to damage Christianity by promoting inaccurate information - so thank you for doing what you felt was right.
@zahydierodriguez1529
3 жыл бұрын
Everybody gangsta until a falk pulls out the pop-corn
@ancientegyptandthebible
3 жыл бұрын
Okay, this comment made me laugh all day. Thanks for the pick-me-up. 🍿
@CharlesCherryWatercolors
Жыл бұрын
Wasn't aware that Michael pulled his video, but I'm really happy to hear it. That took a lot of guts and it increases my respect for him as a person.
@paradisecityX0
3 жыл бұрын
We need more of these reviews!
@bman5257
3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Falk, there was a video created by Holy Koolaid that Trent Horn responded to. If you were looking at more videos to review that might be a good one. Most of your reviews seem to be on Early Date vs. Late Date. This would be more of an Exodus vs. No Exodus topic.
@ancientegyptandthebible
3 жыл бұрын
Let's just say that I'm biding my time. I expect that sooner or later there will be an atheist that will make a move. Then, the popcorn will come out. 🍿
Any day that Ancient Egypt and the Bible posts a video is a good day.
@ancientegyptandthebible
3 жыл бұрын
Any week I get two videos out is evidence for miracles. 😉
@j.gstudios4576
3 жыл бұрын
@@ancientegyptandthebible amen lol
@samueldani459
3 жыл бұрын
@@ancientegyptandthebible let me grab my popcorn
@webslinger527
3 жыл бұрын
@@ancientegyptandthebible great work I hope you make more of these 👍.
@Bioroid
3 жыл бұрын
With the Exodus as sort of a hobby horse of mine, this is one of my new favorite channels.
@ancientegyptandthebible
3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, glad to hear it. 😊
@jedphillips9362
3 жыл бұрын
Ted smells 🍿 and asks himself "Why do I hear boss music?" Great response!
@samknobeloch503
3 жыл бұрын
Love the popcorn, Dr. Falk. Keep up the videos! I love benefitting from your knowledge and research
@glenhall6775
3 жыл бұрын
You are getting better and better. Wait though, there’s a 1200 BC destruction layer at Jericho? You seem to be calmly delivering bombshells.
@ancientegyptandthebible
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, there is a 1200 BC destruction layer at Jericho. And it's not a new discovery. It was mentioned in vol 3 (p. 2) of Kenyon's excavation report and discovered by Garstang. Many people dismissed it because they could not find a city attached to the layer, and some even accused Kenyon of currying favour with the academic orthodoxy. But it is there and it's documented and published.
@glenhall6775
3 жыл бұрын
@@ancientegyptandthebible Eric Cline places the Bronze Age Collapse at a mere 23 years later. This is all getting really good lately.
@claymcdermott718
3 жыл бұрын
@@glenhall6775 He has a video on Jericho; it's really good.
@TheGaberGuy
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Dr. Falk! I just found your channel, but I am loving it! At some point, I want to get some books on this kind of stuff. Do you think K.A. Kitchen is a good person on this? Of course, I will be sure to buy your book as well, but I will be sure to try and get other books you recommend. Thanks in advance!☮️
@ancientegyptandthebible
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Kitchen is a good source. There are other books that are good too, such as "Behind the Scenes of the Old Testament" by Baker Books.
@TheGaberGuy
3 жыл бұрын
@@ancientegyptandthebible Thank you!
@Christian_Maoist.
3 жыл бұрын
I low-key hoped this video would happen 🤣
@davidqatan
3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, Biblical scholarship is really entrenched in certain hypotheses. JEDP is so inculcated into Pentateuchal studies. They pushed it on me heavily, even when I asked the questions that would not be pleasant for the status quo, even advocating for a supplementary hypothesis. Do you have anything similar in Egyptological studies?
@ancientegyptandthebible
3 жыл бұрын
Not really. Perhaps, one of the criticisms that Egyptology has had is that it lacks a theoretical framework. I personally don't see this as a disadvantage.
@SFT49
3 жыл бұрын
In my experience, groups that promote the idea of an early Exodus date ultimately produce a lot of doubt among Christians. At the onset of my own research years ago, I was really concerned when I found little to nothing for a 15th century exodus. Continued research eventually broke not my confidence in the exodus, but my belief that it was early. Thanks for your work and God bless.
@ancientegyptandthebible
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your encouragement. The problem I find with these groups is that they create division among Christians. I think that it is okay to have differing views on secondary issues; such as, the date of the exodus. But what groups like Associates for Biblical Research do is create an "us versus them" dichotomy: either you believe in an early date or you are attacking the Bible and deny a historical exodus. With them, a middle ground is not possible. I think that false dilemmas sew division, harm the church, and fail to bring light to God's word.
@carlknaack1019
2 жыл бұрын
You mentioned a debate between yourself and Dr. Rohl in this video. I would be quite interested to see that, but I was unable to find it. Does anyone know where it was done?
@traceursebas
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Dr Falk, I have a question about Apel/Apophis. How and when did the concept of the giant primordial snake come into Egyptian theology?
@ancientegyptandthebible
3 жыл бұрын
Apep first appears during the Middle Kingdom and became incorporated into the Coffin Texts, which were the Middle Kingdom adaptations of the Pyramid Texts. Wilkinson holds that the concept of the primordial snake developed out of the uncertainty that had existed during the First Intermediate Period, which had been a time of civil war.
@traceursebas
3 жыл бұрын
@@ancientegyptandthebible any idea how that concept came from the proto-indo-European culture to the Egyptians?
@ancientegyptandthebible
3 жыл бұрын
@@traceursebas I don't think it did. Apep is not really a primordial snake in the same sense as you find it among Indo-European legend. Egypt had a lot of snakes and snake deities. I just think it was natural antipathy to pit the solar falcon god (predator) against the snake demon (prey).
@theastrosloth9661
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making a response video to this. Exactly what I was looking for.
@C.J.JOSEPH
3 жыл бұрын
We need more of these reviews 😄🍿🍿🍿
@ancientegyptandthebible
3 жыл бұрын
People seem to really like these reviews. I don't really enjoy doing them, and only do them when I feel that it is necessary. In this case, I thought it was necessary given the sort of megaphone that Ted Wright has, and several subscribers asked for this to be done as a video review. And I generally listen to my subscribers. 😁
@jaredgilmore3102
3 жыл бұрын
When you talked about the distruction layers for the three cities of the conquest using the late date, you did not talk about Ai is that because there hasn't been one found or is there some other reason
@ancientegyptandthebible
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I did not mention Ai because the identification of Ai is very controversial. Both Et-Tell and Khirbet el-Maqatir have problems. I'm not certain that anyone has yet positively identified Ai.
@matheusdardenne
3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Falk, how "old" is all the research you mention? Is it recent? I ask because I was sold the idea, since high school, that there is no evidence for the Exodus... after finding your channel, I feel like Morty on that episode of Rick and Morty where that warrior guy dies and goes to "hell" because Morty made him doubt the afterlife, but then Morty says "he said there was no evidence! There was a lot of evidence!".
@ancientegyptandthebible
3 жыл бұрын
Most of the research I mention is less than 40 years old. Some of the knowledge I bring you is very recent, e.g., the Jericho work by Lorenzo Nigro. But most of it is not that recent; however, given that the bulk of it has remained in the academic sphere, it is taking a long time for it to filter down. As for Rick and Morty, "What do I know about knowing stuff?"
@hhhuthhhjj5599
3 жыл бұрын
Well current majority position is exodus didn't happen the way Bible depicts it ie small slave population escaping egypt + freedom from egypt since Israel was oppressed by egypt + earthquakes and volcanos to explain sinai experience and parting of seas etc etc etc (read recently published book how earthquakes and.... Formed exodus narrative )
@matheusdardenne
3 жыл бұрын
@@hhhuthhhjj5599 but this is exactly how the Bible depicts it. Does it make a difference that God used a volcanic eruption to cause the plagues? I can't see how.
@hhhuthhhjj5599
3 жыл бұрын
@@matheusdardenne just read the book the problem is with proportions exodus is mythos and no these are not miracles but sources which gave rise to the exodus legend
@matheusdardenne
3 жыл бұрын
@@hhhuthhhjj5599 I wonder the definition of "miracle" that you are using. Any act that comes from God is a miracle. The fact He used a volcanic eruption, If this even is How It happened, changes nothing. Also, I think you misundertand the meaning of the word mythos. A mythos is a legendary tale, like Remus and Romulus.
@Ingle70
3 жыл бұрын
Good response! I am willing to see more video on ancient Near East cosmology
@LostArchivist
2 жыл бұрын
I can see you clearly know what you are talking about just by the way you reference things and how you weigh things here. I am a microbiologist by training so I am a layman here and happy to say that because I get to learn from those wiser than me, which breeds humility and challenges my worldview so it gives me a chance to seriously improve. I thank you greatly for sharing the fruits your expertise online for free, it is always edifying to find good scholarly work on KZitem. I will say that when it comes to scholarship I do believe we should ground ourselves in the solid proven path but we willing to browse among the fringe in an open-minded cautious and noncommital way. It is rare, but the fringe tends to spawn the biggest advances in scholarship and bias can go both in a positive and a skeptical direction. Consider from biology the tales of discovery of the giant squid, mountain gorilla, or orangutan all that started essentially as folklore. Or consider the decipherment of the Mayan script and the efforts of Eric Thompson in disbelieving it was possible. I am not saying that is happening here, clearly it is not. I am merely writing this as a cautionary warning of a danger in scholarship as a whole that I see repeated often but rarely addressed, communal confirmation bias. I think we can as scholars do better and as caretakers and seekers of the truths on various matters, ought to strive to do. I am happy to say I see it less these days, but it still shows up. I am not advocating for taking every claim blindly, but giving them fair hearings and holding neutrality over hostility for the claimss of outsiders to a field or unusual ones by a scholar. To at least look over the evidence with a neutral eye. What are your thoughts sir? Am I going down a dangerous or wrong road, or is this something worth pursuiting?
@ancientegyptandthebible
2 жыл бұрын
I think we should always follow the evidence wherever it leads. Fringe views ignore the evidence, and at the same time not all folklore is fringe but simply yet to be established. And even academic scholarship can go down the wrong path when it ignores the evidence in favour of theoretical imperatives. Scholars at times confuse the roles of theory and evidence. Scholars too often subordinate the evidence to the theory, and the fringe ignore the evidence to promote their views. In a sense, it is two sides of the same coin, both suppressing the evidence. But there is a middle road that gives primacy to the evidence. And that is what I suggest we all follow.
@LostArchivist
2 жыл бұрын
@@ancientegyptandthebible The way I approach folklore is like a type of evidence that the locals are being shaped or experiencing something and all else being equal, that something is at least evidence of a worth of investigation. I am not saying stay there, just that we ought to consider it in the balance since people came from somewhere with it. More treat it like a potential lead than a clue, if that makes sense, I think we are largely in agreement on this topic. I look foreward to learning much from your channel. God bless you, brother. Through Our Blessed Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Amen.
@truthbetold5325
3 жыл бұрын
If you were using probabilities to assign early exodus vs.late exodus chances ,what probability would you use for both possibilities?
@ancientegyptandthebible
3 жыл бұрын
Wow, that is a great question and I've given this a lot of thought. And it's a tough thing to do especially for the early exodus, and the reason is because we are dealing with counterfactuals. Once counterfactuals are involved, you are no longer dealing with probabilities but binary truth-values. A counterfactual can quickly turn a probability to 0%. And with the early date, we have a lot of counterfactuals: the chronology cannot work, Avaris was not abandoned when the said it was, the inconsistent conquest narrative, and they have even misread the Bible in places. All that adds up to a zero probability. As for the late exodus date, that's a bit easier because we are not dealing with counterfactuals. So, we can make a probabilistic guess between did the late date exodus happen versus did the exodus not happen at all. And I would say that most of the data is indirect evidence and we have a lot of that evidence, although there is some possibility that other explanations caused that evidence. I would place the probability that a late exodus happened at around 80%. In short, if this were a horse race, the late exodus date would be a safe bet.
@truthbetold5325
3 жыл бұрын
@@ancientegyptandthebible thank you for responding
@ancientegyptandthebible
3 жыл бұрын
@@truthbetold5325 My pleasure. 😊
@501Mobius
3 жыл бұрын
I favor the late date of Exodus because it goes better with the 12-13th century BC copper working at Qurayyah. Qurayyah in Midian is the best fit for Jethro's home. With him being a Kenite, he needs a place to work. As for Moses and Horeb being in Midian remember Ex. 4:19.
@danglingondivineladders3994
3 жыл бұрын
me too. Exodus makes sense during a migration period.
@501Mobius
3 жыл бұрын
@@danglingondivineladders3994 David Rohl tried to counter my pointing out Moses in Midian Ex. 4:19 by saying that Moses went west from Jethro's to find Horeb thinking I like some others assumed Jethro lived at al-Bad'. But Midian Horeb is west of Qurayyah part way along an important road.
@danglingondivineladders3994
3 жыл бұрын
@@501Mobius I don't understand
@501Mobius
3 жыл бұрын
@@danglingondivineladders3994 There is a translation of Exodus 3:1 "Now Moses was keeping the flock of Jethro (Reuel) his father-in-law, the priest of Midian; and he led his flock to the WEST side of the wilderness and came to Horeb (Sinai), the mountain of God." If one tries to go west from al-Bad' in Midian one cannot get to the mountains near al-Lawz. But from Qurayyah going west one can reach al-Lawz. If al-Lawz is Horeb as some think.
@rohanpant1997
3 жыл бұрын
Sir what would be your response to those who argue for an early date based on 1 Kings 6:1?.
@ancientegyptandthebible
3 жыл бұрын
My response is to suggest watching the numerous videos that I have done on the subject. 😀
@kamilgregor
3 жыл бұрын
Why do they insist on the early date so much? Is it because they want to preserve numerical values in the Bible as literal?
@everyzylrian
3 жыл бұрын
Yep, they can't wrap their minds around the conception that "40 years" might just mean "a generation", and there are supposed to be 12 generations between the Exodus and the building of Solomon's Temple, ergo "480" (12 x 40).
@501Mobius
3 жыл бұрын
They seem to go by the consensus that a generation is 25 years. A generation can be defined many ways.
@ancientegyptandthebible
3 жыл бұрын
They insist on the early date because it is their Shibboleth test. They figure anyone who reads 1 Kings 6:1 literally will also read the rest of the Bible literally, while those who don't are unbelievers or liberals who attack the Bible and its historicity. It's simplistic thinking.
@kamilgregor
3 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering whether this literalism about timespans could be motivated by an attempt to save specifically a literal 6 days creation. I know that motivates some apologists to insert an extra Sabbat into the passion chronology to make sure Jesus stays dead for 3 literal 24-hours days.
@ancientegyptandthebible
3 жыл бұрын
@@kamilgregor It is true that early exodus daters are often young earth creationists. But I don't think it is an attempt to save YEC. I think that they have a specific hermeneutic and the hermeneutic that gives them the early exodus is also giving them YEC. The commitment seems to be towards the hermeneutic that gives them the results (early exodus, YEC) that they like.
@traceursebas
3 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity: Dan Gibson did not have any archeological training but seems to have delivered some amazing work. What are your thoughts on him?
@501Mobius
3 жыл бұрын
The guy who discovered the Teutoburg Forest battlefield was not an archeologist either. He eventually turned it over to archeologists. Apparently archeologists aren't very good at discovery.
@ancientegyptandthebible
3 жыл бұрын
Please don't ask me questions for which you might not like the answers.
@hans471
3 жыл бұрын
@@ancientegyptandthebible i think we should focus on the argument rather than the person mostly. The main part of DGs argument is that the orientation of the aearly mosque buildings and their remains (qibla direction) consistently point s to Mekka. This can't be random... What is your opinion about this?
@hhhuthhhjj5599
3 жыл бұрын
@@ancientegyptandthebible you can offend us completely dan gibson is dead wrong on everything this is the worst thing you can say
@ancientegyptandthebible
3 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanmonroe1833 I'm going to sit this one out. I don't care enough about this subject to make a statement that I might have to defend. Besides, I already have enough problems with the David Rohl sycophants. I don't need to add to those problems.
@JohnVandivier
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Dr. Falk, for aiming well at the Truth, not at "The Accepted (TM) Christian Answer"
@djpodesta
2 жыл бұрын
So… I have to guess that it is because of institutions that you are critiquing, that secular Egyptologists discount the idea of the Exodus? Or am I reading too much into the motives… or conclusions of secular Egyptologists? PS… I loved Ted’s obligatory closing remarks. Basically; ‘This is an appeal to Michael… then… closing… ‘If you enjoyed this video, please like and subscribe…’ 😩
@hhhuthhhjj5599
3 жыл бұрын
What do you think of dan Gibson? Have you read his material first hand or relying on someone else's analysis of his material? Do you favour king's explanation Thanks in advance
@ancientegyptandthebible
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, the era Gibson discusses is post-interesting, so I'm not going to engage this one. But feel free to ask any question on ancient Egypt and the Bible.
@Debiginger
3 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one getting constant graphical glitches in the video?
@ancientegyptandthebible
3 жыл бұрын
Nope, that's on my end. Sorry about that. Unfortunately, I do these videos on a shoestring budget and too often it shows in the production values. I really wish that I cannot afford better. 😭
@hhhuthhhjj5599
3 жыл бұрын
@@ancientegyptandthebible you will there are a quite a rules to get hit on youtube
@ancientegyptandthebible
3 жыл бұрын
@@hhhuthhhjj5599 I'm sorry. I didn't understand you comment. Could you please rephrase it?
@stephanquintin7013
3 жыл бұрын
Can someone edit the wiki page on The Exodus...
@ancientegyptandthebible
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Stephan, a few years back I was part of a consortium of 40 scholars that tried to get the Exodus wikipedia page changed. But the page's editors had locked the page down and stymied the entire process in red tape. Unfotunately, dilletantes with an agenda (in this case anti-Israeli activists) can cause no end of trouble if they are well-placed.
@stephanquintin7013
3 жыл бұрын
@@ancientegyptandthebible I'm sorry to hear that but that's good to know. Well, I appreciate that you devote so much time to offering your level of expertise to the general public, and I hope to do the same in my field someday.
@abdallahradiy8525
3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Falk, we need 3 videos a day please. We can’t keep doing this one video a week thing. What am I supposed to do with the rest of my week?
@ancientegyptandthebible
3 жыл бұрын
But... but... but... if I do 3 videos a day, I wouldn't have any time to work at my crappy, minimum wage job or write for those thankless peer-reviewed journals or sleep.... have some pity on me. 😧
@hhhuthhhjj5599
3 жыл бұрын
i made a video for the evidence against documentary hypothesis it's on my channel ( yt won't let me post my comment with link it goes into spam folder)
@ancientegyptandthebible
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, links aren't permitted in the comments.
@danielbaharier3771
2 ай бұрын
I'm not an archeologist or egyptologist but I am a educated and we'll read person. for me the big question is ahkenaton where did he come from unless he was the younger brother of his first born brother who died in the tenth plague it's going to have quite an effect on a ten year old it obviously had some effect on the army and populace because during his life he carried them with him against the old gods they were also traumatized against the old gods. Yes the best evidence is for an early exodus on the time of amenhotepthe second along with sashu of yaweh
@ancientegyptandthebible
2 ай бұрын
> for me the big question is ahkenaton where did he come from unless he was the younger brother of his first born brother who died in the tenth plague How does that make sense if Amenhotep II was the Exodus Pharaoh since Akhenaten was the great-grandson of Amenhotep II? > Yes the best evidence is for an early exodus on the time of amenhotepthe second along with sashu of yaweh What evidence is that?
@danielbaharier80
2 ай бұрын
@@ancientegyptandthebible quite simply odonate believe or think Amenhotep the second was the pharoh of the exodus it was Amenhotep the third father of said akhenaton.Amenhotepsthe thirds scarabs have been found at jericho and at the disputed joshua altar and there is a whole host of other evidence that to go into here id need a book space to write it . just add the carbon 14 dates for the grain found at jericho give1400BC + - 50 years
@jedphillips9362
3 жыл бұрын
Just saying YES before watching the video! 🍿
@kingofsalem
3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the mental gymnastics taking place here 🤣
@501Mobius
3 жыл бұрын
Ted Wright is logically correct in saying more archeology may provide evidence for an early date Exodus. It is incorrect to say the more archeology will only help the current archeology. In the case of Ai more archeology at the second Ai location could prove that there was an early date burn layer. This does not disprove that there was no early date burn layer at the first Ai but could undermine the relevance of that archeology if the second Ai is confirmed to be the actual Ai of Joshua.
@ancientegyptandthebible
3 жыл бұрын
He is wrong that more archaeology will negate the evidence that already exists. This is going to be very problematic for his view because, if we find evidence for an early date Exodus also, the best he can hope for now is showing that there were two exoduses: an early and a late date exoduses. This would then prompt the question over which of the two would the Biblical account be describing, and the preponderance of evidence then still leans largely in favour of the late exodus being the one described in the Bible.
@501Mobius
3 жыл бұрын
@@ancientegyptandthebible You are right that it doesn't negate the evidence that already exists. If it shows the second Ai to be the real Ai and it has an early date burn layer it throws into confusion when the Exodus happened. It doesn't prove there were two Exoduses. At most it proves from 1400-1200 BC people were going about the land ravaging cities. For example we know from Moses that the Amorites took the north of Moab from the Moabites at an earlier date. Who knows what they did to those cities?
@lynnv8501
3 жыл бұрын
I'll get my popcorn too.
@antoniomosley9410
3 жыл бұрын
So let me sum this up. ABR will cause more harm than good for Christianity,
@ancientegyptandthebible
3 жыл бұрын
Yup, that's my assessment of the fruit they produce.
@thomasioslo
2 ай бұрын
Falk ! You mess up my idea that - Creation 6000 years ago - The covernant with Abraham 4000 years ago. - The death of Jesus year 30 - Something will happend year 2030 - The 1000 year kingdom And the 7000 year week will be .... And then you mess it up with facts. Things sometime looks bether without facts.
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