I'd love to see you set up a natural gas/oxy torch. Also would love to see the rotary phase converter.
@aceadman
Жыл бұрын
This was great Tim. Not boring at all. Everything is interesting (or should be) to people who are interested in things like blacksmith channels. 😊👍👍
@muldoon67
Жыл бұрын
Make videos about everything. We will watch.
@1993graywolf
Жыл бұрын
Hey Tim! I’m a VFD specialist for an electrical distributor in California. There are several manufacturers that make “on process” VFD’s that will take single phase 120 or 240 and converts it to three phase 240. I have sold a lot of them to mom and pop shops when their single phase 120 or 240 motors go out on their machinery(lathes, mills, grinders, etc.). It is nearly the same cost to buy a new three phase motor and a small VFD like I’m saying versus a new single phase motor, as they are far more expensive. An example of the VFD’s I’m talking about would be the ACS255(cheaper shaft turner) and ACS355(more capable more expensive, better precision) from ABB. Let me know if you ever need any help on the VFD you have or any questions on new ones!
@RadDadisRad
Жыл бұрын
All VFDs will take single phase and make 3 phase. But you can’t make more voltage than what you put in. A bit misleading saying you can make 240 from 120.
@RadDadisRad
Жыл бұрын
Plus there is nothing inexpensive about an ABB drive.
@1993graywolf
Жыл бұрын
@@RadDadisRad you are correct sir. The ACS255 and many others use a step up transformer inside to rise to 240 and then convert to three phase.
@1993graywolf
Жыл бұрын
@@RadDadisRad also, correct. However, it is what I distribute and am most familiar with. There are many others that will also work, I just can’t be as specific with them. 👍
@PrometheanBlade
Жыл бұрын
@@RadDadisRad many vfd’s are 3 phase input only. Also some vfd units will step up voltage double or more.
@UndreamedFool17
Жыл бұрын
People thought you were running the power hammer off 16G wire... Lol I guess I could see why they were thinking that. Glad you went over all those boxes.. I was wondering why I needed so many.
@Mjoll87
Жыл бұрын
Natural gas is absolutely fine for forging. As you said, go with a ribbon burner, and a larger one so you keep the overall flame speed slow and noise to a minimum. Try to search for spare blower that's designed for a natural gas condensing furnace. Not sure how's the market over there in the US, but here in Italy I was able to find a sealed blower designed for condensing boilers (EBM Papst RG128) with a decent airflow - 88cfm at 10.2" WC. It can be PWM controlled. While my forge is smaller than yours (about 18in long by 8in diameter) with this kind of blower I was always running it at very low speeds and gas flows, while maintaining welding temps. Another advantage, those blowers can pump pre-mixed air/fuel so you can if needed feed the NG into the intake and have the forge run even at 1/4psi pressures. One thing I would absolutely do with this kind of setup, is adding a significant amount of automatic safeties to the system. At least a non return valve plus a solenoid valve on the gas line. If your blower (or mains) dies, you're still feeding fuel into the chamber. Better rather have a normally closed valve that's electrically opened when the blower is running.
@richardsweet5068
Жыл бұрын
A tip I picked up when building a forced air propane burner for a casting furnace was to make a 90 degree bend after the gas jet to ensure proper mixing. It worked a treat though it sounds like a jet engine.
@the_sharp_carpenter
Жыл бұрын
Definitely need a 90°or at least an internal mixing baffle. The air and gas have to be properly mixed prior to it exiting the flame orifice. The way Tim's is setup currently is basically pushing raw gas into the forge and it gets enough oxygen once it gets into the open air
@richardsweet5068
Жыл бұрын
I picked up the tip from a youtuber who repaired big central heating furnaces. He knew a lot about burners. The noise mine makes is due to the perforated flame holder but it produces a very controllable flame . Richard.
@ThePirateGod
Жыл бұрын
Great explanation on the 3 phase wiring. Makes way more sense
@LanceMcCarthy
Жыл бұрын
I love these nerd tours and explanations. Not everything is banging on hot steel.
@warrenyoung5865
Жыл бұрын
Really liking all your videos. And I hope you are enjoying your first taste of Alberta winter today.
@marcusFZ6
Жыл бұрын
Nice catch up Tim and thanks for putting the time in to explain a few things. The only problem I have is with your roof radiant heaters. Given that your Roof if fairly high and HEAT RISES, your going to spend a lot of time heating up most of the roof space for no real benefit. Might need to think about putting your heaters on the walls and having them angled downwards. Stick a couple of big fans on the roof to aim circulation.
@RadDadisRad
Жыл бұрын
Hey Tim. Electrician and Electrical Engineer here. You need to go into your parameters on the vfd and set your maximum output current and probably put all of your name plate data in. Hopefully you checked to make sure those thermal overloads are VFD rated. You should turn off the ramp down on the VFD and set it as a “coast to stop.”
@TimothyDyck
Жыл бұрын
Yep went through all of that when setting it up. Forgot to mention that! Haha. I’ll have to double check on the coast to stop. That makes way more sense!
@RadDadisRad
Жыл бұрын
@@TimothyDyck it’ll save wear and tear on both the vfd and the motor. Best of luck!
@willboudon7023
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the ribbon burner in your last video…excited to see a forge rebuild episode
@mikehill4551
Жыл бұрын
My shop is in a down town building that was built in the 1880's. The entire natural gas system in the down town is old so it's' all low pressure. No higher pressure natural gas is available. I've got a Swan forge and they don't make NG conversion kits for them. I ended up going with an 1/8" orifice and added a combustion blower from a scrapped furnace. It takes a little while to heat up but it's whisper quiet and sips fuel at temperature. I'm very pleased with the setup.
@Moondog-wc4vm
Жыл бұрын
Wish I could understand all this, because it would be very informative for the lesser requirements I have. Yet I have very little understanding of the concepts. I like puppies! Thanks all the same Tim. I'm nowhere near your level of understanding of these concepts, but I appreciate the fact that you share your knowledge with the youtube watching community. Maybe someday I will use the information you shared to make my little forge a bit more economical.
@calholli
Жыл бұрын
FOR SURE ... make a natural gas/ torch video. These detailed break downs are what we're here for. Overcoming these unforeseen struggles to get things to work are where the golden content is at. Mine that gold buddy. cheers.
@andizell2255
Жыл бұрын
I've maybe got some tips regarding your misaligned dies: Either thin out the material between the anvil and the hammer (if you've replaced it with a new one after moving to Alberta) or (and I know that's quite some work but possibly easier than moving the anvil) make some new keys for either the dies or the spacer between the dies and anvil. With different keys you might be able to cover up the misalignment, like a thicker one towards your side and a smaller one towards the hammer body. Hope it helps, that's usually what my master does whenever we're making new dies for our little Bêché
@curtisbarkes6271
Жыл бұрын
Would love to see an in depth video/series of rebuilding your forge to run off the natural gas with a ribbon burner. Definitely will be anticipating that!
@glenndarilek520
Жыл бұрын
You made me wince when you were sticking your fingers into the electrical box!
@timhorton555
Жыл бұрын
Great explanations. They all made sense.
@michaellewis767
Жыл бұрын
I don't know how it is in Canada but in the US there is actually different nozzles or orifices in the heater or in your case forge so changing the forge nozzle tip may help too
@CDLund.
Жыл бұрын
I just watched two of your videos so far in northern Minnesota. You’re pretty cool guy! And you have great skills. I do excavating in also paint autobody in the winter time. I just filter 60Wx100Lx20tall shop. One day at a time.. I don’t think I’ll ever get into doing what you’re doing but you’re very interesting to watch. It’s a great craft buddy. Good luck
@richardhazell2601
Жыл бұрын
I must admit...I understood very little of any of that. But still enjoyed your insight and passion. Cheers Dude.
@jeffbuller6708
Жыл бұрын
Always interesting to see how another man sets up his shop. Great video!
@BenjaVis
Жыл бұрын
Shops looking great. Keep the updates coming.
@WayOfHaQodesh
Жыл бұрын
Thank you brother for this super informative, clear as mud breakdown on some complex necessities of shop construction. Loved it. Definitely a keeper.
@jasonlopez75
Жыл бұрын
This shop looks Awesome!
@picklesnoutpenobscott3165
Жыл бұрын
Hey buddy, long time watcher and subscriber. Kudos on making dreams come true! Well done.
@42icee
Жыл бұрын
Great video Tim. Look forward to the forge rebuild
@SchysCraftCo.
Жыл бұрын
So happy to see a new video on your KZitem channel timmothy. Very interesting thinking there. Can't wait to see more videos soon. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge On. Fab On. Weld On. Keep the forge lit. Keep Making. God Bless.
@swblacksmith.7445
Жыл бұрын
Hey Tim, thanks for the walkthrough on your workshop. I find the information intresting because I'm setting my workshop up at the moment, installing a power hammer, LPG forge...ect. Your video provides food for thought.
@andrewward8954
Жыл бұрын
Rock and roll man Doing a great job
@evebrassard3105
Жыл бұрын
The reactors smooth out the harmonics in the power output going to the motor. That takes out a bunch of stuff but most noticeably the high pitch whine that motors will make at lower rpm due to the frequency being changed anywhere from 0 to 60 hertz. The VFD is kind of like a household dimmer the difference is that it will play with both volts and frequency, while a dimmer will only vary voltage trough a variable resistor. VFD's makes a motor run more efficiently as well. The newer VFD's are also programmed with the motor specs and the logic in their computer boards will actually protect the motor just like the contactor/overload Tim installed in front of the motor. In HVAC systems the contactor and it' s overload is before the VFD to protect both the VFD and motor against power surges ect.
@davewilson7565
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim 👍🏻💪👊
@virtusleather
Жыл бұрын
Good stuff Tim. gonna bury that heavy wire in a big conduit when floor poured eventually? or run it along the wall. I could see pros/cons of each. I think ribbon burner might be good for videos as its quieter? Essential craftsman on YT makes really good ones fwiw. 👍🏻🔥🇨🇦
@SivaKumar-bx3fn
Жыл бұрын
Very great achievement. Excellent service. You are GIFT FOR BLACK SMITHY WORK. 💯💚💚💚👌👌👌🤝🤝
@irbadger
Жыл бұрын
Great episode man, love all your content. Keep the peace lit 🙏😁
@SamJ6131
Жыл бұрын
Very interested in the final of the natural gas forge.
@davidmech2956
Жыл бұрын
Keep the faith, young man. You got this.
@huntintrailmetals9343
Жыл бұрын
I can guarantee that epoxy is gonna be stronger than concrete, I use for my floors, countertops and anything else I can use it on! But ratio of hardener and resin could be very important for shock absorbency!! And great job on the shop and video😅
@calholli
Жыл бұрын
As close as your alignment is-- it looks like you could just adjust the thickness of your piece of wood that sits behinds the anvil and you could get that to align much closer, without really changing much. Just put a thinner piece of wood and then tighten down your main springs on the side. just a thought.
@mammut1291
Жыл бұрын
Nice i would love more videos like this
@chrisbronson1038
Жыл бұрын
Yer doing great bud!! Keep it up!!!
@joshclark44
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clarification Tim! Nothing you say is boring! I'd love to learn all of what you know about hooking these machines up and I think a lot of people could benefit from it too! I also love when creators take the time to experiment instead of just cranking out content and show their process of how they found the right weld settings or speeds and feeds for a mill or lathe. So yes I would love to hear an update about your natural gas torch and how it compares to propane. I know next to nothing and I didn't know you could run a torch off of natural gas. I wouldn't think it would get hot enough or something. It'd be interesting if you could maybe do like 3 or 4 experiments with both on scrap steel and show the differences and talk about them. I know there are a lot of people who already know this stuff and are in the comments saying you're doing everything wrong or whatever, but there's also guys like me that just want to learn and find it very entertaining to learn something that's not even in my field by someone who does have experience. Great talk Tim! Please do more!
@DragonsFireMetalWorx
Жыл бұрын
Great idear Tim! definitely interested in more conversation about the natural gas burner in your forge :)
@billiejohns6270
Жыл бұрын
4 natural gas you need 14 inches pipe for mixing or you can put a little mix plate in the tube the one I've got in the workshop as a mixing chamber with us in middle metal plate with a twist
@Derrk94
Жыл бұрын
If you need it I have PDF about building a natural Gass ribbon burner
@sheep1ewe
Жыл бұрын
Awsome! 3 phase is really nice to hawe if You got access to it that way. In north Europe it's a definitive must because of the power distribution system here (otherwise it's going to be extremely expensive to crank up the necessary amount of Ace here (except countries like Norway...) on the booring side of the pond... That's why almost all stationary industrial motors here are brushless 3 phase wired in Y-D (Delta-Star) configuration), but i think it's not that big issue in Canada.
@savagesarethebest7251
Жыл бұрын
I'm happy to live in a country where everyone have 3-phases at 240 volt, and if you connect from phase to phase it's like 380 volt or something. Often used for the oven.
@johnstandfordly6795
Жыл бұрын
Thats was pretty good. Would like to see the natural gas cutting torch. If it works ill adopt in my shop.
@parris3142
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@TimothyDyck
Жыл бұрын
WOW!! Thank you so much! That really helps! Keep the forge lit!
@martyparsons8395
Жыл бұрын
The ramp up is called "soft start" We soft start all our pump motors at work..
@daveschwell
Жыл бұрын
Looking at yoour gas feed to the forge, I would install a different valve than a ball valve at the burner. Ball valves are poor regulators of flow, and you may find that turning the forge down would be easier with a globe valve.
@Sk8rdad420
Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the oxy natural gas torch
@beautifulsmall
Жыл бұрын
Phew, not 15HP on 16 AWG, I was scratching my head . I use a single VFD for three machines, just have an 3 way isolator on each machine. Some VFD's let you store settings so you can tune it in for the motor. Nice shop talk.
@kevinmcniff9730
Жыл бұрын
Have you considered using a forced air ribbon burner for your forge instead of the setup you currently have?? we use that at our shop here and we are running landfill gas (70% methane) and the pressure we run is only 32 inches of water collum which is only l.5ish psi. we get much more complete combustion using the forced air ribbon burner than the standard round open-ended pipe in our experience and we dropped gas usage by switching to the ribbon burner since it mixes better and provides more complete combustion. I work at the Jackson County Green Energy Park in western North Carolina as the studio tech and maintain our equipment for the hot glass studio, metal shop, and kiln yard. Feel free to reach out if you want to discuss burners.
@craigengle2234
Жыл бұрын
Not seein your vids this is the first one in a while. I gotta see whats up.
@White_devil1980
Жыл бұрын
Doing good just celebrating my birthday today 🎉 I’m 42 years old today
@White_devil1980
Жыл бұрын
Here in Ireland 🇮🇪 the calor gas is not cheap and home heating oil isn’t cheap depending on the size of the oil tank and gas tank and getting bottled gas depends on the size of the tank but it is cheaper than calor gas
@tomcarlson3244
Жыл бұрын
Great video, I really don’t have a clue about any of this. So it is good to have it explained. Could you divert natural gas to the shop before it hits the regulator at the house so it is higher at the shop?
@joshclark44
Жыл бұрын
I think the regulator is for the house and garage. It splits at a T before that so it should in theory have the same full 5psi, although it would drop a bit with the distance I think
@JoshEaton
Жыл бұрын
You can run multiple motors off of a VFD (One at a time). If you put selector contactors to direct the power to the correct motor and a put in multi configuration into the VFD. Of course it depends on the VFD.
@joshclark44
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking something along the lines of doing one at a time too, but if he's doing axes again he'll need several machines running together like the power hammer and the two Hydraulic things. Not sure which of those runs on 3 phase but I think he would need another vfd or alternative anyway. But as long as he can run the power hammer at least, he can do some forging
@failgg
Жыл бұрын
I'd love a video about natural gas burners.
@scottbedard5095
Жыл бұрын
love this technical content. btw, a soft-start might be a more economical alternative to a full vfd for the other machines. are you billed by peak consumption or total? around here, industrial accounts are billed by peak amperage, so softstarts and vfds save a tonne of money on hydro.
@Pugjamin
Жыл бұрын
Soft start won’t solve his single to three phase issue though.
@scottbedard5095
Жыл бұрын
@@Pugjamin nope, it won't
@jameswood3461
Жыл бұрын
my experience with ribbon burners says don't have one coming in the top. I really struggle to turn mine down low as the pressure of the rising heat/ burn back quickly overcomes the positive pressure of the fan. I feel like id be able to get more control from a side entry
@rocky3075
Жыл бұрын
What is your plan for pouring a concrete floor? A 10'×10' at a time, or some such thing?
@frankheger5185
Жыл бұрын
👍👍
@furyus14
Жыл бұрын
Tim how much do u bench? cuz doing all this on ur own is amazing to see. HOW MUCH DO U BENCH TIM? ^^
@oilio5465
Жыл бұрын
Alec Steele set up a natural gas burner in his USA workshop. After a few appempts
@OOOHBILLY
Жыл бұрын
Yo yo yo
@littlecabinknives8954
Жыл бұрын
I'm building a 2 by 72 running vfd. Was it complicated to set up the ramp up and down
@dragonwing4ever
Жыл бұрын
don't do a burner from the top down tim, vertical burners seem to have a habit of developing hotspots vs at an angle giving that turbine effect
@dragonwing4ever
Жыл бұрын
another thing to add is you can run motors off the same vfd with a changeover switch or my method for my 2x72 and disk which is use 3phase plugs on the motor and vfd and swap between the 2 as i need to use it
@Wysgas
Жыл бұрын
Hey Tim! Where in Alberta are you? My wife and I ade about to road trip the west of Canada on our honeymoon. We will be flying out of Edmonton, if you’re anywhere near by it would be amazing to come by, shake your hand share a beer!
@russelbutler6704
Жыл бұрын
It’s all clear as mud. I’m in Australia and don’t know much about your power grid but why don’t you get 415v 3 phase for you shop so you don’t need vfd?
@ansemik
Жыл бұрын
What about the floor? are you gonna keep it as dirt?
@denishuizing4329
Жыл бұрын
Where in Alberta did you move?
@minnesotatomcat
Жыл бұрын
Is super Martin all done and starting his new life yet?
@jamesbarisitz4794
Жыл бұрын
Switching from propane to natural gas sounds like alchemy. Air / fuel ratios, orifice size, pressure, equals migraine.
@iahmedrazakhan
Жыл бұрын
try to play with nozzles for forge.
@electronite7934
Жыл бұрын
You are not suppose to brake the wires between VFD and its load. Ever/period/ in any situation. How it should be done, is to install thermal sensor INSIDE the motor, in its windings, and send the signal to VFD. then you can have nice temperature redout on the display and entire protection is done by the computer. It does not have to switch off, it can lower the RPM/power in order to cool the windings, and many other things.
@erikcourtney1834
Жыл бұрын
Anyone says that 4 gauge aluminum wire isn’t good or won’t last. Do yourself a favor and go look at the lines feeding your breaker panel in your home….
@timothymilam732
Жыл бұрын
Your just going to confuse them even more now that you've said that, and they'll all be in a panic, because of the issues way back in the 70's with the poor quality use in practice of incorrect application for wiring outlets and such as that. I agree whole heartily with you through, because when I did the power into my shop/barn I ran 400 amp aluminum service wire from the main breaker on the pole feeding the 200 amp panel with a separate 100 amp panel for barn use only with gfi breakers in it feeding the outlets there, as everything is in water proof boxes, but things do get wet by accident even if you make every effort to avoid it. That said, I didn't want it effecting anything in the shop area so they're separated by a fused main breaker feeding the barn separated before the 200 amp panel. If that makes sense to you, that's how my younger brother set it up, and he's heavy into electrical and controls industry for past 40 years now. So I assume he did it correctly, and since I've never had any issues or problems except for mechanical failures such as switches just wearing out over the years. He's supposed to be building a single phase to 3 phase converter so that I can use some 3 phase equipment I pickup cheap at business that was going out due to death in the family, and no one was going to take over from the family member that passed. So I'm looking forward to that, and lowering my utility costs out there. The average person doesn't have the complete knowledge on the facts of what you just told them, and they base their thinking on half truths, and poor information on the subject at hand. Yes I have plenty of extras power available from the feed line I brought into the shop, as the service is based on larger load when ran to pole off main power lines. As there is additional conduit ran with wire in place to add additional 200 plus amps if needed. Always follow the 6 P's myself. Proper planning prevents piss poor production is my moto. Have a Great Day, and may Tomorrow be even Better than today.
@paulmartin2348
Жыл бұрын
@@timothymilam732 Wow, your consideration for the understand lvl of the general chat is commendable. I am been doing so many things for so long I tend to study and understand everything. Your statement "The average person doesn't have the complete knowledge on the facts of what you just told them, and they base their thinking on half truths, and poor information on the subject at hand. " is gold. (in the future I will try to tailor my comments to be written so that everyone can understand if possible)
@blacknoir2404
Жыл бұрын
Idea: Can you forge nichrome?
@xXstevieOo
Жыл бұрын
do you mind coming over and wire up my house?
@fatdaddy2237
Жыл бұрын
Why not just stick with a 1000L propane tank?
@Lynkah
Жыл бұрын
Great video Tim. I doubt I'll ever interact with things like these, or make use of this information, but it was entertaining to learn regardless! I also kinda like having near pointless information stored in my brain lol.
@frisbeephil
Жыл бұрын
I was cringing when you started touching wires in that box. Yikes, you can tell what I don't know anything about. Stay safe.
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