basically everyone expected neo to betray and fuck over cinder and we were so prepared to call cinder a moron for it. but somehow we gave this show too much credit and an even dumber option was presented to us. at this point its a skill
@benjaminmcneil574
3 жыл бұрын
Impressive... Seriously Neo, what did you think was gonna happen?
@darkice60000
3 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminmcneil574 none of the characters in this show understand what cause and effect is. they all do things and expect only the things they want to happen to happen
@hikkikomoe
3 жыл бұрын
for real i feel like a clown now thinking that they even have an ounce of a braincell to write someone good
@MagillanicaLouM
3 жыл бұрын
@The Meaning is Always Vague After V7 I just occasionally pop in to Vex to see what he has to say. There was another channel I watched during v7 that also critiqued the show, don't remember the name atm. The one who would invite other RWBY focused channels on for discussions. Even he decided to stop covering RWBY last I watched, due to how frustrating the show and roosterteeth can be. At this point I think it's just ppl wanting to see the potential it has reached/watch the thing crash n burn left. Or the ppl who genuinely do have a good time 100% still, somehow, they're probably too attached/have some personal reasons for why it might resonate, idk. It can be good sometimes, it has its chapters that are pretty decent but the overall thing is just so messy.
@MelralCT-
3 жыл бұрын
They really subverted my expectations on that part. But now I'm just wondering if they're going to "redeem" her
@nmjjmn663
3 жыл бұрын
Roman and Neo worked as a criminal duo who the villains employed, rather than as a direct member of Salem's whole organization.
@axis1247
3 жыл бұрын
Unwillingly employed at that, Roman made it pretty clear he didn't like working for Cinder, so I don't know why Neo would ever trust or go along Cinder in the first place.
@carbodude5414
3 жыл бұрын
@@axis1247 Because stupid for the sake of the plot
@dreadrath
3 жыл бұрын
@@axis1247 Yep, you'd think working for a guy as cunning and knowledgeable on the shitty side of human nature as Roman was would've given her the tools she needed to handle a situation where she had an advantage (Possessing the Lamp) Then again maybe Roman was always the brains of the duo and Neo was simply the muscle.
@averageanimefan519
3 жыл бұрын
That's why RWBY Chibi is superior
@awesomechainsaw
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. It would have been nice to see Roman and Neo start to form their own group separate from Cinder and Salem’s plans. Becoming a group of more dimensional threats who challenge our Hero’s world view. Perhaps they could form alliances with other villains who got snubbed by the plot. Like Adam, Raven and Ironwood/Watts either or. A group that throws both Salem, and Team Rwby’s plans into a frenzy. Who’s solely motivated by their desire to survive. Hell I can even imagine during the final fight Torchwick going to Ruby “You May not Like it Red. But if we don’t work together the world is gonna end up more messed up than either of could imagine. My band only want one thing. To survive, and if that means doing the right thing for once in our lives. You can count us in.”
@simer7294
3 жыл бұрын
"My favorite character is the only one who doesn't talk but i'm excited to see how they ruin her." - JelloApocalypse 2019
@Carbodude Сonsidering how the volume ended, Weiss finally had a chance to hook up with Torchwick's ghost.
@senjuguy
3 жыл бұрын
I could've sworn Roman and Neo were forced to work with Cinder under threat and had no knowledge of the bigger picture. Cinder: "You will know what you need to know, when you need to know it" - Volume 2
@axis1247
3 жыл бұрын
They were
@logicseeker3770
3 жыл бұрын
It's kind of weird how, in volume 2, she was scared into loyalty by half maiden Cinder. Brave enough to try to kill full maiden Cinder in volume 6. Brave enough to steal from Salem, and threaten full maiden Cinder, in volume 8. And brave enough to meet full maiden Cinder face to face, right after threatening her.
@dreadrath
3 жыл бұрын
@@logicseeker3770 I wouldn't say brave enough to attack full maiden Cinder, that wasn't bravery, Neo simply had nothing to lose by that point, kind of like a suicide revenge mission. Before volume 3 I figure she just didn't want to see Cinder kill Roman, so she played ball since she did still have something to lose back then.
@KraNisOG
3 жыл бұрын
#1 they weren't under threat. #2 that quote isn't a threat. That's literally a "You're on a need to know basis, and right now you don't need to know." Which is a common phrase many people use in non-threatening ways.
@KraNisOG
3 жыл бұрын
@Fionna Lee Not really. Saying someone is on a need to know basis is a common trope for criminals working with each other in T.V. Their was nothing yo indicat it was a threat other than Roman was a little scared of her capabilities. Afterall he probably knows she has two-semblances or has magic. As he said. He does what he can to survive, and Neo also does the same. Although Neo wants to die as well (check her song. It explains her story a little bit)
@milestrombley1466
3 жыл бұрын
She is just ice cream for the fans. 🤣
@asheniza1168
3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@snowyterry9225
3 жыл бұрын
Come you simps, get your ice cream plushies at Rooster Teeth Store for 50$, limited time
@NekoKujo6785
3 жыл бұрын
That's sounds dirty. .....I like that.
@visko6203
3 жыл бұрын
Chocolate strawberry vanila all in one box the most basic ome
@mikehobbes6600
3 жыл бұрын
She is always someone else minion.
@jennytulls6369
3 жыл бұрын
Everyone: "Well, at least they can't ruin Neo since she's mute" Rooster Teeth: "Are you challenging me?"
@hamsterfromabove8905
3 жыл бұрын
Being mute isn't a disqualifing trait for being a good character. Mute characters can still think and convey their thoughts through their actions. Its just a shame Neo clearly isn't thinking.
@jennytulls6369
3 жыл бұрын
@@hamsterfromabove8905 I know But, the general idea from the community was that they couldn't ruin her because of her muteness I honestly never understood it myself, but I still wanted to make the joke
@patchwurk6652
3 жыл бұрын
@@jennytulls6369 Simple: RWBY's dialogue is about 60% of the reasons why certain characters absolutely suck now. So that's 60% of all potential ways CRWBY typically ruin characters that just flat don't can't be applied to Neo.
@buffgarfield3231
3 жыл бұрын
Are you challenging me, Master Jedi?
@Hulleek
3 жыл бұрын
Soundwave from transformers prime: *silent laughter*
@135mikerules23
3 жыл бұрын
It’s almost hilarious in its absurdity of how the writers disdain for Neo has become so apparent, they’re not even trying to hide it anymore.
@theprofesionalist7927
3 жыл бұрын
Their disdain for Neo and pretty much every morally grey white male other than Whitly or Mercury isn't only apparent; it's also extremely petty and childish. I mean I can get over it and maybe it's just a coincidence instead of an agenda that most of their morally grey characters got what we deemed the Adam treatment, but if they keep doing this shit they're gonna loose viewers when they constantly take this "nO fuck U, your'e nOt suPOSed to LiKE this CHARactER!" approach to writing the show.
@ma.2089
3 жыл бұрын
@@theprofesionalist7927 Whitley and Mercury Arent exactly being treated nicely by the writers either. But I imagine if they got rid of fan favorite Mercury or killed off Whitley they’d get in trouble with the “u killed an abused child!” crowd. Cuz I’m sure they’re aware he’s abused, they just don’t care about him to give him anything meaningful.
@theprofesionalist7927
3 жыл бұрын
@@ma.2089 TBF they did give him a redemption arc. Although yeah...I do feel like they would've killed him off if not for the fact that it would make them look unsympathetic to abused children. Again call me crazy, but I'm pretty sure that RT just doesn't care for or even hates white men in general. They don't ever want their white male characters to get more than the minimal amount of spotlight/character development time that they need *cough cough* Juane's character hasn't developed or changed since volume 5 *cough cough*.
@nikolasferreira3247
3 жыл бұрын
@@theprofesionalist7927 his "redemption" arc was terrible
@loiiysailor1177
3 жыл бұрын
My goodness can they do somthing for Neos character please like stop fooling with her , is not cute is not funny like do somthing for N.E.O give her back her only propupes is reavage for Romans death! my goodness I bet Romans ghost is screaming at her like CAN YOU PLEASE KILLED THIS WEATCH FOR DESTROYING OUR LIVES ! what is so hard to do ? give Neo her reavage this is too much to ask?!
@dangeun3234
3 жыл бұрын
“Away with you plot device, I cast you out! Away with you!” 3:12-3:27 got me laughing my ass off. You can feel Vex’s hate for how Neo is honestly just a paper doll in this show. LOL imagine if she could actually talk. I would love to see what bullshit the writers would have her say to justify all these actions.
@SirenChats
3 жыл бұрын
That’s the funniest part
@hermitfox3053
3 жыл бұрын
I miss Torchwick. He gave her existence meaning on all levels
@rator1st
3 жыл бұрын
Neo in RWBY chibi: He's a dumb- dumb... but he's MY dumb-dumb. One of the reasons I preferred to watch the chibis over the show proper, it has actual personality.
@kirbyboycoolness6734
3 жыл бұрын
@@rator1st Facts. I miss RWBY Chibi.
@dreadrath
3 жыл бұрын
@@rator1st Damn I miss that show, it was obvious a lot of passion went into writing the comedy in it. Plus it gave us more Torchwick which is a big bonus as far as I'm concerned.
@StrategicJordan
3 жыл бұрын
@@rator1st the Chibi's gave *all* the characters personality they didnt have in the show, i actually LIKED juane thanks to Chibi giving him a personality
@emmakatenotcake
3 жыл бұрын
That, and Torchwick was compelling because he was fun to watch. He chewed on the scenery in all the best ways.
@fvardona
3 жыл бұрын
Nobody in this show is a character anymore, everyone is a plot device of Miles Luna for whatever he is thinking, when is not that, is a plot device for bumblebee.
@MrBaluchistan
3 жыл бұрын
Or Jaune because he's basically been written as more of a main character than the main character themself.
@fvardona
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrBaluchistan yeah, since monty oums passing, jaune became a self insert for miles luna.
@theonewayroad3867
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrBaluchistan which is funny consider that through volume 1 - 3 he annoyed me, I kept want him to either grow a brain or at least stop being such a fuck up I get that he was supposed to be an audience surrogate someone who experienced the world like we did but come on. Now forward to Jaune now I can only think do CRWBY actually use fanfic to write the show ?
@deathxanamon7211
3 жыл бұрын
@@theonewayroad3867 No, because if they used fanfic it might actually start being good (fanfic writers somehow understand the characters more than the actual writers)
@KraNisOG
3 жыл бұрын
@@fvardona Miles said that season 1 Jaune was basically a self-insert (same with Monty and Ren) and then worked from there in the world to try and make compelling characters. It's a common writing thing you do where you take traits of yourself and place them on different characters to make it easier to write and flesh them out in the world around them.
@nmjjmn663
3 жыл бұрын
Neo should've grabbed the relic with her free hand and held it over the void. Forcing Cinder to pull her up to save it.
@FaunaturaleOG
3 жыл бұрын
Literally
@minmaxed5297
3 жыл бұрын
Congrats, now the scene is even worse in my mind. She's leveraged the relic before so she totally could've done this.
@alpha4935
3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't have worked. If she drops de relic, Cinder can fly and/or extend her Grimm arm to catch it before it reaches the void and, at the same time, use her maiden powers to make Neo and Ruby fall anyway.
@nmjjmn663
3 жыл бұрын
@@alpha4935 I disagree, Cinder could've flown to grab the relic, sure, but I actually think Neo's agile enough (or should be, at least) to pull herself up before Cinder could hit her with magic, we all know how single-minded Cinder can be, so, she'd probably be distracted by the relic falling anyways. And Neo could've grabbed the grimm arm and rode it back onto the platform if Cinder tried that. Also, if we actually take Yang's fall seriously (lol), we can determine that Cinder's arm and flight probably wouldn't be fast enough to grab the relic. Like how Blake's weapon couldn't reach Yang in time, and everyone else was too slow to do anything. But, like I said, that's only if you take that scene seriously.
@alpha4935
3 жыл бұрын
@@nmjjmn663 Neo's agility would be limited by Ruby hanging onto her leg, so she would have to either take the time to kick Ruby off or settle for hullilng herself much slower than she would otherwise. And before you say that she's strong enough to throw people like she did Yang in the train, that feat relied on the redirection of her own momentum and that of the opponent to use against them, not on pure upper body strength like she would need here. Yang's fall happened in slow motion; we don't know how long she fell for in real time. What we do know is that Blake had the time to process what happened and run to the edge before throwing Gambol at Yang. Cinder would need a much shorter reaction time to catch the relic because she's already at the ledge and her arm seems to extend faster than Blake's throw because she doesn't have to go through the throwing motion.
@Vritzien
3 жыл бұрын
“Keep her in Chibi where she belongs” So non-existent then 😂
@squee-g1658
3 жыл бұрын
Oof XD
@kingofthelurkers9155
3 жыл бұрын
I don't blame you. I'll admit I am a Neo fan. But she was done after volume 3. There was no reason to bring her back to begin with. Heck, she and Cinder were practically forgotten about in volumes 6-7.
@NekoKujo6785
3 жыл бұрын
But Vex! She's cute and quirky! That's all she needs to be! It's what the fans want so that's what they'll get! What could possibly be the problem? She's gonna be BFF's with Ruby and everything will be A-okay! Also I like staring at her exposed midriff. What? Don't say you haven't. At least THIS wasted potential of a show has a lot of pretty faces I can look at.
@claudiathomas2529
3 жыл бұрын
Funny enough all she is supposed to be is a one-note villain for volume 2 and 3. And thats the issue she outlived her usefulness for the series.
@klamacz47
3 жыл бұрын
Its true all tho
@alfianfawzi2064
3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Staring at exposed girls' midriff is the best lmao.
@AvilioAmici
3 жыл бұрын
I admit
@josephbriggs2257
3 жыл бұрын
I just hate her exposed midriff when she's in the friggin' tundra continent. Her ORIGINAL outfit makes more sense for the tundra than that sorry excuse for a design. XD
@YungTimeWeaver
3 жыл бұрын
At this point I don’t even watch the show I just watch people review it.
@Sonic171K
3 жыл бұрын
This sounds like a good option.
@Starcraftgamer97
3 жыл бұрын
It's what I do. And I have my friend who kinda sorta likes it fill me in. He and I both talk about it and he isn't a blind goober since he readily admits the bar is lower than a limbo bar at a Gnome's Garden Party.
@leviatant0219
3 жыл бұрын
I watch the last episode and then i remember why i only watch review in the first place
@SonodaSymphony
3 жыл бұрын
As a writer I still watch it so I can see how NOT to write a story (as well as for shits and giggles. RWBY may be shitty but it’s entertainingly shitty at the very least)
@udayveerbhadauria1659
3 жыл бұрын
I just read the fanfiction. It's funny how even the most amateur writers on the sites I visit can make a better plot than the writers for RWBY.
@MattAnd
3 жыл бұрын
It's a shame really because I'd say she's one of the characters that still manages to have some actual character (well enough for her relative role in the story) - but it all gets pushed aside so she can be forced into being a plot device
@DMAN99
3 жыл бұрын
Much like her inspiration, Ice cream, Neo exists as a treat for the viewers. She looks nice and for a moment you’ll enjoy her but her character isn’t filling and you’ll crave something more satisfying afterwards.
@Little-Birds-and-Camellias
3 жыл бұрын
You hit the nail on the head, dude! And them bringing her back in Volume 6 is the equivalent of people trying to make ice cream healthy.
@dycedargselderbrother5353
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but the dedicated base of this show just eats more ice cream and Rooster Teeth is the Blue Bunny of entertainment.
@cartoonishidealism582
3 жыл бұрын
Coincidentally that is also how I would describe RWBY as a whole
@kierang5003
3 жыл бұрын
God I wish Neo was a character. Putting aside "Oh she's so cute" and stuff, she's just the framework for an interesting character at the moment. God, the fact that we can't learn a thing about her, that's probably way more interesting then Cinder, has me figuring it's the only reason she was made to be mute. Why couldn't she just shiv Cinder and yeet her into the void, oh if only.
@nikonarshe9296
3 жыл бұрын
Cinder is a lying, manipulative, aggressive woman but Neo never notices this with Roman? She's had plenty of time to formulate that Cinder was involved with Roman's death but she can't realize that she's being strung along? The new writing never intended Neo to be a neutrality point of the series, she was meant to be Cinders lap dog.
@maddenking4847
3 жыл бұрын
Fr 😬
@superprincessgem1
3 жыл бұрын
What’s even more absurd is that Neo has a pretty heavy fan base. So the “character” that hasn’t talked and her actions aren’t explained, yet the fandom loves her over Ruby, Yang, Blayke, Cinder, and many others.
@klamacz47
3 жыл бұрын
Because there is so little of her in the series that the creators cannot spoil her. Oh yeah, they couldn't, cause they've already done it
@ronin8088
3 жыл бұрын
Well, I like her for "other" reasons.
@ma.2089
3 жыл бұрын
The fanbase is probably shared with Torchwick’s. Torchwick and Neo’s dynamic was pretty damn cute
@ronin8088
3 жыл бұрын
@@ma.2089 Not gonna lie, I've consumed a lot of torchwick x neo content. Really wish torchwick could've been around more.
@axis1247
3 жыл бұрын
My main reasons for liking Neo are volumes 1-3. As well as Cross Tag Battle. Also they can't make her spout off idiotic dialog because she's mute.
@DJPrimeAmvs
3 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when you try to insert a sidekick for the tertiary antagonist into main antagonist roles. Neos cute but she's the literal definition of 3rd rate
@d.tsukuyomi1869
3 жыл бұрын
For me the problem isn't that Neo gave Cinder the Relic. The problem is that she didn't use the question before she gave the Relic and then fucked away. That would have been a glorious middle finger to give Cinder. A perfect betrayal and perfect backstab.
@vaquishers
3 жыл бұрын
She quite literally could not do that even if she wanted to
@d.tsukuyomi1869
3 жыл бұрын
She can type. Or Jinn could read her thoughts and answer her question
@vaquishers
3 жыл бұрын
@@d.tsukuyomi1869 doesn’t work like that. Firstly you need to **call** out her name to summon her. Thoughts or paper don’t work. Secondly, although she can sense if someone has a question, I highly doubt that she would do so unless asked verbally. She’s designed like a genie remember? And last I checked, genies dont grant wishes that wasn’t said verbally. And this is the world of rwby, not real life. Type writers or voice speakers don’t exist. She has nothing to vocalize her thoughts. The only thing she can use to communicate is her body language and her actions. That’s it
@faeyrn
3 жыл бұрын
This would be cool as heck but quite impossible lol. She wouldn’t be able to use the relic.
@alexwhite4132
3 жыл бұрын
@@faeyrn grab random citizen .Text say jinn on scroll and have random citizen say jinn
@AvalonBlaz3
3 жыл бұрын
The thing is...I could see neo being a good character 🤔 or I thought she was going to be because I thought she was deadass gonna drop the relic into the void as a power play move.
@Little-Birds-and-Camellias
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I would've been happy if she purposefully let go to take herself, Ruby and the Relic all with her. But nope, she was an idiot.
@TSH425
3 жыл бұрын
She should have let go as a finale middle finger to cinder if cinder tried to grab the relic she would inadvertently also grab neo and will be forced to pull her up with the relic and if cinder cant save neo then the relic is gone with her would have been a perfect play by neo to force cinder into saving her
@qaztim11
3 жыл бұрын
Neo is just a small fraction of the largest problem RWBY has, the huge amount of side characters with nothing to do(or in some cases steal story arcs from our main characters), combined with the writers fear or unwillingness to kill of characters. They had an awesome opportunity to prune down the huge cast, give the important characters more focus and to make Salem a terrifying villain all at once. Given how Volume 7 ended with the whale right on top of Atlas, it would make a ton of sense for Salem to immediately begin her attack, kill tons of people and maybe some side characters to set the tone of the volume, setting her up as a strong imposing villain. But then we fast forward to the middle of the volume, 5 of our protagonists meet up face to face with the big bad guy of the show, and no one is seriously injured? Traumatized? Forced to re-evaluate their worldview because they saw Salems immortality in person? Nope, Ozcar just nukes her with the Deus-ex Machina cane, removing her from the story, and our protagonists get away without losing anything, just so Cinder can get the spotlight *again*. And Cinder doesn't even kill our protagonists or a named side-character, she doesn't even stop the evacuation plan until after all of the civilians got out of the portal dimension. They manage to get the maiden powers and 90%+ of people from mantle and atlas to Vacuo, only losing RWBY+Jaune, Penny and the Relic. Sure, penny is dead, but i mean, she already died once, and Pietro is still alive so he can probably re-build her by sacrificing his life.
@benjaminmcneil574
3 жыл бұрын
They seemed pretty kill happy in this Volume.. It wouldn't be the same Penny, so he's not gonna do it.
@qaztim11
3 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminmcneil574 Hazel - Best handled death this season, shame none of characters even took a second to appreciate his sacrifice, not even Ozcar Vine - had around 5-6 lines since he showed up, literally did nothing of substance before his sacrifice. Watts - Sure Ironwood - Not even the same character he was in previous volumes Jacques - Killed for no reason and had no consequences These are he non-penny deaths in this season, they only killed off recently introduced characters, or antagonists/antiheroes No losses on the protagonists side except for Penny
@TSH425
3 жыл бұрын
@@qaztim11 bruh how they gonna kill watts off he was one of my favorite villains too
@TSH425
3 жыл бұрын
@@qaztim11 heros dont lose in ruby even tho ironwood was right (his plan would have saved more people than Ruby's ruby lost 2 RELICS to Salem DESTROYED THE STRONGEST MILITARY CREATED A REFUGEE PROBLEM IN VACUO SCREWED OVER PENNY AND HAVE ALL PEOPLE FROM MANTLE AND ATLAS GET ATK BY GRIM )ironwood plan would have fixed 5 out of the 5 problems it would not create an abundant amount of refugees, it would not destroy the strongest military, it would keep the 2 relics away from Salem, would not cause people from atlas and mantle to be atk by grim and finally it would leave salem in the dust while also allowing communication to the whole world u realise that ironwood plan would have saved MORE people in the long run now that we reexamine the outcome of Ruby's plan now it looks like rwby are the villains
@qaztim11
3 жыл бұрын
@@TSH425 Yes, Ironwoods plan before he went mad because of his "sembleance" would have been the best option, especially if team RWBY hadn't made every wrong decision since getting to atlas and mantle. It's a shame the protagonists have to always be right and cant get their worldviews challenged in this show, i mean, the villains can and often do, just not the heroes for some reason
@essiana148
3 жыл бұрын
I honestly hope Neo does not get redeemed in Volume 9. If she does, it will show how much favouritism they have over the character since she's done some pretty horrible things herself and it'll be like Emerald all over again, like, "oh, she looks cute, so she's deserves to be on the good side". It would just be a big fat middle finger to those who were upset with how characters like Adam and Raven were handled by poor writing choices.
@benjaminmcneil574
3 жыл бұрын
Then what DO you hope for? With Cinder's backstabbing, she literally has no one else to turn to. Would you have her just run away from it all?
@nekineko2194
3 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminmcneil574 Yes
@supergoodadvice853
3 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminmcneil574 How about we kill our villains? Cinder has been the main villain for 6 volumes, going on 7. She should have died at LATEST season 7.
@TSH425
3 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminmcneil574 yes cinder should be killed and neo should gain her maiden powers neo goes on to kill ruby because she is still after revenge
@dycedargselderbrother5353
3 жыл бұрын
This show is in dire need of a cast cleanup. Literally everyone on the Atlas shuttle piloted by Robyn Hill needs to permanently disappear. Neo needs to disappear. Perhaps the most groan inducing moment of the finale was Jaune joining Team RWBY in the void because he, along with Ren and Nora, needed to be left behind at Haven at the end of V5. Now that we have four sets of characters to follow, we're literally going to see at least a dozen new characters. It just never ends.
@cartoonishidealism582
3 жыл бұрын
Neo really is just a microcosm of the whole series. She’s cool, visually interesting, and just intriguing enough to imply the existence of a greater story that we as fans are excited to delve into. Only for us to ultimately be disappointed when we realise that the writers are absolutely not interested in exploring that potential.
@chronenojysk5107
3 жыл бұрын
Damn Vex, calm down. IT’S JUST A CAAAARTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON.
@ArcticWolve98
3 жыл бұрын
All Neo needs to do now is to speak to complete her plot device assassination
@gravenwolf6535
3 жыл бұрын
In one of my fics I made Neo backstabbed Cinder because she was secretly working for Watts. She killed her catching her off guard and she's now the new Fall Maiden.
@robertshelby3841
3 жыл бұрын
Where can I find it?
@zooemperor3954
3 жыл бұрын
And that’s much better than what we got
@kingraplhmativo5178
3 жыл бұрын
Give me that link
@runohayuko1827
3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see this too.
@warmachinemkx2308
3 жыл бұрын
plz link
@keith9129
3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being Neo, logging onto KZitem one morning, depressed at your most recent failure thanks to blindly following cinder, and you find your unspoken object of affection vex made a video on you, only to click it and see this
@DreTheRonin
3 жыл бұрын
See i like Neo's design and character her semblance is amazing on top of her acrobatic fighting style but how they write her motivations is stupid what a waste of a neat character oh i'm sorry plot device 🤦🏾🤦🏾
@OreoForRuario
3 жыл бұрын
She was made 100% for people to cosplay
@ddancingaura
3 жыл бұрын
Contrary to that, actually. Someone posted a comment on a video regarding RWBY's new character outfit designs saying that they purchased the official cosplay outfit (her new Atlas design) and had both a hard time putting it on and was highly uncomfortable in it. So, really- she STAYED for fanservice, but yes her original character was probably made to be able to cosplay easily.
@naomi5328
3 жыл бұрын
@@ddancingaura most of the original designs for the rwby characters were purposefully made quite simple since monty loved cosplay and wanted people to be able to easily cosplay them! i don't think this is necessarily a bad thing if it results in good character design - the more simple yet effective designs of volumes 1-3 look so much better than all the clunky useless belts in volume 7 and 8 in my opinion lmao
@LonkiDonki
3 жыл бұрын
@@naomi5328 i think making them easy to cosplay helped because sometimes... less is more and a lot of iconic designs in animation are simple bc its easier to animate anyways
@tamiej.5558
3 жыл бұрын
This should have been Emerald. Emerald should have been the one to get the relic, and troubled by Mercury's statement that she doesn't care about her, blackmails Cinder with it. Then Cinder says "sorry" and she believes it because she wants to believe in Cinder. Fast forward and Emerald is fighting Ruby, and when they're hanging off the ledge, she reaches for Cinder, only for her to take the relic and knock them off, and *that* is what makes Emerald realize Cinder doesn't care. Then she can get a redemption arc. But instead we got "She's scared, like us." Like what is the point of Neo? Why bring her back just so she can get a role that Emerald should have gotten?
@E3Persona
3 жыл бұрын
Wow...your completely right. This should have been Emerald. It would make more logical sense since she been in a struggling partnership with Cinder. But no, the writers fast track that character development in Episode 11, by literally declaring she changed sides. Why bring her back just so she can get a role that Emerald should have gotten? I think you answered your own question, and that is the whole point of Neo coming back.
@jacobholder8514
3 жыл бұрын
People with a functioning brain: How stupid can you be?! Neo: Hold my beer!
@bridgettelair370
3 жыл бұрын
I thought Neo was going to be the trickster character, a chaotic force to fuck with both the good guys and the bad guys. Like the cheshire cat, but a girl who wants to watch all the schmucks burn, even more so because Roman is dead. But no the show doesn't have decent enough writers to pull that off, they had a pretty good framework too. It's a shame.
@sageky
3 жыл бұрын
"Cinder, Help Meeeee!!" 🤣 I love it!
@haziqtheunique
3 жыл бұрын
"You have got to be kidding me. You are a _clown!"_
@borisaustria4301
3 жыл бұрын
"Away with you, plot device!!!" Funniest shit I've ever heard.
@BunW.Bun21774
3 жыл бұрын
The volume 8 betrayal scene *could've* worked if cinder pulled a scar when he fought simba; she could've grabbed neo's hand, pull her up (and a bit close to her, but not enough so she's just dangling) and say "you know it wasn't Ruby that killed your boss." she laughs a bit "Salem told me that a Griffin swallowed him whole." Cinder starts loosening her fingers one by one. "That's a pretty pathetic way to die, don't you think?" neo glares at her. "But at least you get to join him now." Neo is let go, falling towards the void. Though in order for this scene to work, neo would have to keep and use the relic for herself (let's just say she's a selective mute, what her question would be, I'm not sure), come to the realization that Cinder is just using her and then turn on her when she confronts team RWBY + Penny. Or she could just take the lamp, disguise herself and go to vacuo without even touching yang or helping cinder out. Either way, neo just sucks now.
@weegee3917
3 жыл бұрын
They could explain her wanting to serve cinder since she lost everything in her life after Ruby "killed" Roman. ...but then why did she lose all her brain cells in the progress?...oh wait, she isn't supposed to be a character, that's why!
@axis1247
3 жыл бұрын
The explaination wouldn't be very good though. If you really wanna go through it it's still Cinder's fault Roman died even if Ruby did 'kill' him. She was forcing them to work for her, they didn't want to. So Neo actively choosing to work under Cinder is kinda a slap in the face to Roman who didn't want to help Cinder in the first place.
@volrag
3 жыл бұрын
So what is her motivation anyway? Was she in love with Torchwick or something and that's why she wants revenge, or is it more professional courtesy? Why hasn't she reached the point of "Well you were a pretty good boss ol' Roman, but I'm not dealing with this crazy bint, I'll go kill Ruby on my own, then I don't know, maybe go get drunk".
@patchwurk6652
3 жыл бұрын
They flat out abandoned Neo's motivations. She didn't give a shit about Ruby at first. Hence why she attacked Cinder and not Ruby. Neo and Roman were professional criminals, not emotion-fueled children like everyone else in the cast. Neo knew full well Ruby wasn't to blame, who the hell blames the attack victim for defending themselves like you'd expect them to do? But all Cinder had to say was "Nuh uh" and suddenly Neo's entire line of logic vanishes.
@thedarklordx
3 жыл бұрын
Well in the song One Thing neo seems to consider Roman her everything so we don't know if it was romantic love but it was some kind of love.
@Oath13K
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like half of Vex’s hate for Neo comes from the superficial reasons the fans have for liking her lol
@unchartedraider7547
3 жыл бұрын
No really ? Also why her eyedhadow is fucking green ?
@herpderp5727
3 жыл бұрын
@@unchartedraider7547 Because Roman Torchwick had green eyes lol.
@Oath13K
3 жыл бұрын
@@unchartedraider7547 Probably a reference to Roman.
@hypeman1825
3 жыл бұрын
Aside from being cute, quirky, quiet and having a unique fighting style... she has nothing endearing to her personality. You could honestly watch Neo from V2 and literally SKIP to V8 and you wouldn't really miss much about her character. You likely wouldn't even know anything happened to her lol.
@MagillanicaLouM
3 жыл бұрын
@@unchartedraider7547 she always had it, it's just more prominent in the new artstyle
@adachivineboom
3 жыл бұрын
I'm still both stunned and unsurprised at how they totally ruined a character that doesn't even talk... Well, that's just the show's talent.
@KinotheHedgehog
3 жыл бұрын
Seeing one of my favorite characters reduced to a plot device for Cinder is honestly so disappointing. Neo was always my favorite in the first 3 volumes because of how different she was, a character who doesn't or can't talk and instead has to be expressive through facial expressions and body language. Too bad she got written off to be a cardboard cutout lackey for one of the worst characters in the franchise that has long overstayed their welcome.
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi
3 жыл бұрын
*Rant complaining about a popular character being nothing more than a plot device* Boba Fett: 👀
@elementalheroneos2757
3 жыл бұрын
Well hello there
@SwitchbackCh
3 жыл бұрын
The only good moments Neo had all this Volume were thanks to the animators and visual artists. They gave her so much more personality with the times she floats with her parasol or skips gleefully with the Relic. The scene where she taunts Cinder with the Relic in her Scroll message was great too.
@carbodude5414
3 жыл бұрын
The recent Netflix DOTA anime pulled off a mute character with so much more characterization and personality than Neo.
@coolnerdstuff
3 жыл бұрын
The best comparison I have for Neo is as a bond Henchman, like Oddjob or Baron Samedi or Jaws. So long as they're cool to watch on screen and present a legitimate threat to the protagonist, they're doing their job. What's got me worried is that they'll give Neo backstory in volume 9. Giving a Bond henchman backstory can work, so long as they've got the character in previous appearances to back it up. Neo worked for Roman, doesn't talk, and is vindictive and sassy(?). With a backstory added, that's not enough to have a compelling character when the backstory takes away the mystique.
@roxananava592
3 жыл бұрын
GAH!!!! SHE WAS GOLD TO EXPLORE AS A CHARACTER!!!!!HER RELATIONSHIP WITH ROMAN, HER PAST, HOW SHE USED TO LIVE, HOW SHE SURVIVED HEAVEN, HOW SHE COPPED WITH ROMAN´S DEATH!!!! WHY DID THEY DID THIS TO HER???!!!!!!
@privatepessleneck
3 жыл бұрын
Neo was like a foil for Roman, but then never really expanded on it, who she was as a character, thus without following roman, Neo is just a hollow thing, not sure if any character development in vol 9 would help though. 6-7 volumes of just being a mindless golem with no agency besides a half assed revenge motive isn't something to recover from.
@johnking9943
3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, she was barely a foil for Roman either; she was literally made because Monty liked a genderbent Roman costume, and just decided to insert it into the show. She was literally created by the fans for the fans.
@cartoonishidealism582
3 жыл бұрын
@@johnking9943 True, but that doesn’t mean she COULDN’T have been an interesting character. The writers could have… you know, MADE HER AN INTERESTING CHARACTER. They could have delved into her relationship with Torchwick, her backstory, hell they could have used her several-volume absence as an excuse to develop her character into something new entirely, instead of just turning her into a quiet henchman AGAIN.
@waterdog737
3 жыл бұрын
Miss Irrelevant and Fan Service
@Steelstriker
3 жыл бұрын
Neo is bout to melt under the microscope
@CoolToTheInfinthPower
3 жыл бұрын
"She needs to get off my damn screen!!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Gooberpatrol66
3 жыл бұрын
1:17 "Oh my God a giant rock!"
@sdbzfan1
3 жыл бұрын
Can we talk about the watts scene and how Cinder is just Mile's verson of Azula with how fucking petty she is, like the villians are killing off the villians, why do the protags even exist just let cinder kill off the bad guys and go vacation on the island
@arthurcesardeoliveira5437
3 жыл бұрын
Man, i kind of missed Vex getting so pissed off like that about rwby's trash writing 😂
@computernoise2209
3 жыл бұрын
At this point, I wonder if the issue is us? We're 8 seasons in and every once of good writing has either been a one-off thing or an accident quickly scrubbed off. Maybe the problem is we're staring too much at the potential for the story and characters, and we're just supposed to watch some adults uncontinuitously play with really expensive toys.
@mordi9286
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think so too. I'd rather not waste my time anymore with this show expecting something good. I'll take the show at more of a face-value with my brain off. Kinda like potato chips, no nutritional value, I don't want to have a lot of it at once, but they taste good every so often. If I want to watch something with substance and enjoyment- well I can easily list a bunch of my favorite anime and anime I've yet to watch. It's our fault for expecting this much, but (while it feels wrong to say) it's the show's producers fault for trying to lead us on with snipets of potential this show COULD have for 8 seasons.
@rockmanbeta8055
3 жыл бұрын
@@mordi9286 That moment you realize most h3nt@i has better plot/animation than all of RWBY... I am not joking...
@orochi52
3 жыл бұрын
My friend always tells me when we are writing for characters, if a character is doing nothing they might as well be a dead one. RWBY has so many characters they need to kill off or send away like they did Sun and Illia.
@sammydray5919
3 жыл бұрын
You know sometimes I think the fans are in an abusive relationship with this show. Either deluding themselves to believe it to be good while ignoring all the gaping flaws. Or constantly coming back in the hope that it will finally change for the better only for the show to slap them in the face and dashing their hopes. Toxic but they'll return anyways because they can't move on to better things.
@DPowered2
3 жыл бұрын
They wanted Neo to join Cinder so they made her go after her for revenge first and after that is like you said. They ruined the one character people liked because she couldn't talk and couldn't get ruined by their writing
@amoil6537
3 жыл бұрын
They presented Neo as someone who really despised Cinder and rolled her eyes at every opportunity. And then the writers conveniently forgot that when they wanted to give Cinder a big fat W.
@icecreamhero2375
3 жыл бұрын
So if I understand correctly she worked fine as a cute sidekick to the bowler hat guy with a cane, but after he died they didn't know what to do with her and she feels like Peanut Butter without Jelly but they have to use her because the fans love her.
@Raving_Rando
3 жыл бұрын
And yet... she's still considered best girl. Because all the other girls are just THAT bad.
@randomcenturion7264
3 жыл бұрын
Yep. She has no competition.
@wlfmanjack
3 жыл бұрын
I felt the exact same way about Adam First time he see's Cinder, he literally says "I won't let my people die for a human cause" Cinder after gaining the maiden powers and killing Adam's men, he... joins her? Even after saying he doesn't want his men DYING for a human cause and Cinder kills his men He tells chainsaw guy in the flashback to forget Blake and have them go back to Mistal, so maybe, MAYBE there's more to him that we're not seeing cause otherwise he's just blatantly contradictory but then he's suddenly obsessed with Blake and wants to kill everyone she loves Then after saying he wants to kill everyone she loves, he forgets about her entirely and isn't even relevant in volume 4 He only then gets involved when the Belladonnas try and recruit a new fang. So he sends a strike force, they fail, and literally no follow up for 3 months. Literally Ghira says they have 3 months until the WF's next attack Adam forgets about Blake AGAIN Then in V5 when Blake does track him down, suddenly he wants to kill her again Oh but we can't beat Adam yeeeeet, he has to... escape, yes because that surrounding army of faunus suddenly disappears for no reason and we can't chase after him(Sun tries) because he... Clearly has traps, yeah that's believable But don't worry cause the WF now want nothing to do with him, because he retreated from an unwinnable fight and 6 WF members got arrested. No shit, the entire WF went from idolizing this man as their hero to now wanting nothing to do with him. Yeah cause every political leader ever loses all of their support if they mess up at all. Which I don't see retreating from a literal army vs 7 as a fuck up so now that we had Blake and Sun defeat Adam and contrive his escape and contrive him losing his militia, now we can TOTALLY have the planned pay off of Blake and Yang defeating him. Now that he's already been humiliated has no military and we have to redo the Blake Adam confrontation. Cause this was so totally planned am i right
@SagaTheFunniest
3 жыл бұрын
Guys maybe Neo doesn’t talk because she’s never thinking about anything based off her decisions this volume
@damkylan3
3 жыл бұрын
no thoughts, head empty
@brandonontama2415
3 жыл бұрын
If Neo gets redeemed I'll be angry. If Ironwood had to die so should she.
@energyweaponsspecialist9090
3 жыл бұрын
Until I see ironwood's body, he is still alive in my eyes
@JonLa89
3 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with ice cream? Everybody loves ice cream. This cute dessert on legs is short and sweet when she appears on screen and her milkshake brings all the simps to the yard.
@lillylane1698
3 жыл бұрын
This rant was great. Was glad to catch it live~
@fulltimeweeb
3 жыл бұрын
It's really impressive that CRWBY managed to ruin a character that doesn't even talk. They deserve a gold medal for it.
@LoneGamerNerd
3 жыл бұрын
I don't even understand Neo's disdain for Ruby. She didn't even kill Roman! Unless that was just Cinder being Cinder to convince Neo to join her? Ah, who cares anymore... Neo has never been a character. She was, basically, Roman's side-kick and nothing else. She doesn't talk, and she just goes around fighting in his stead -- most times -- so Roman could continue to do his work. She was already an underling whom existed just to serve someone else. But without Roman, she has no reason to exist whatsoever.
@ctcdreamer
3 жыл бұрын
When Neo was reintroduced, I was excited because I thought it was going to be some cool villains being villains to each other and everyone type thing but nooo. Cinder needed a new Emerald so they gave her Neo and Watts was like a replacement of Merc. Interestingly enough, she never or hasn’t killed Emerald nor Mercury yet so I’m curious to see how she deals with Emerald in future volumes.
@kingaye372
3 жыл бұрын
That "Jesus Christ" at the end sent me! I feel your pain every time we expect a character to be good we realize that the rough drafters don't know what they're doing
@thunderstorm1672
3 жыл бұрын
God. Why did I even expect anything from this writing, Neo betraying Cinder would have make sense and she would have been a more interesting antagonist than "WAAAH I WANT POWAH WAAAH"
@randomcenturion7264
3 жыл бұрын
XD Cinder's motivation boils down to this: kzitem.info/news/bejne/u6KVrpqKk2hqi6w
@kinglightning5256
3 жыл бұрын
Well be prepared for her team up with team rwby😬. Also we all wanted her to stab cinder in the back which wouldn't made since if you wanted her or embearel (sorry if I spelled her name wrong) I wish she'd took the relec for herself not trusting cinder and ruby
@kinglightning5256
3 жыл бұрын
Made mistakes i meant to say neo or embeabarl to get the maiden powers if neo killed cinder
@hypeman1825
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Neo's way too popular to be killed off by the hero's. She's gonna join them. She hasn't really done anything explicitly evil unlike Cinder or Emerald(one of which they actually forgave).
@thedarklordx
3 жыл бұрын
I am excited to see Neo turn good tbh. I hope they don't have RWBY kill her or leave her on the island forever.
@vinceunknown1935
3 жыл бұрын
@@thedarklordx What if her and Phyrrhas soul share a body somehow like that giant tree is a soul tree I dont know because plot, and when Neo uses Phyrrhas form Phyrrha is synced oh shit if this actually happens.. Juane will have two girlfriends in one body hah, this comment willl age badly or good
@thedarklordx
3 жыл бұрын
@@vinceunknown1935 that counts as a three-way for Jaune so I approve lol.
@mercuryblack
3 жыл бұрын
Perfect music for this type of video. Great job, Vex!
@SaanWukong
3 жыл бұрын
Personally I feel like it's my fault cause I use to talk to my bros how Neo was one of my favorite characters and they couldn't ruin her because she couldn't talk so no stupid dialogue... BOI WAS I WRONG?!!!!
@futurestories2380
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed But I would argue that we haven't seen any character in RWBY or any other fictional story. There all just caricatures.
@0er069
3 жыл бұрын
"Look how they massacred my girl..."
@RenSenpai7
3 жыл бұрын
Ya know. At the end of the day. Wasted potential can have a pretty face. But the “writers”... Well. Yeah no I can’t acknowledge them as real writers.
@chrisdavey5530
3 жыл бұрын
"Alright were gonna make Neo mute, she's a walking plot device anyways, no point paying an actress for that shit."
@Jose-yt3qz
Жыл бұрын
It would be quite cool if Neo blamed Cinder AND RUBY. Imagine the shitshow.
@thinkfighttalk2403
3 жыл бұрын
Well in Neo’s defense the writers seem to be trying to do what they can to make Cinder live and “sympathetic” while also making her a jerk because she’s supposed to be bad. Hence her backstory and crying after getting roasted.
@SarahStar246
3 жыл бұрын
There were so many times I was like "why is she HERE" whenever Neo was on screen...
@Banditlord52
3 жыл бұрын
Lets be honest, neo is kind of overrated anyways. She was just there to be smug and cute, and for some reason that was enough for fans to go gaga over her so much that they were almost demanding her to come back. She's basically female boba fett but not expanded upon at all.
@Demonboy007
3 жыл бұрын
RWBY - Where you think the writers go for the low hanging fruit, but they reach for fruit you didn't even think could hang that low.
@mumblerogre2455
3 жыл бұрын
The ice cream has melted. She has as much depth as sugary goo
@klamacz47
3 жыл бұрын
I understand! This whole neo and revenge plot was for that one bumblebee moment where Blake was crying after yang. Well, writers can be proud of themselves
@zee6697
3 жыл бұрын
The thing is I like Neo for trivial reasons (cute, badass, neat semblance) and I knew not to expect a GREAT STORY from her or anything, but I was never worried that she would be a BAD character because her story seemed so simple (avenge Roman). I swear I thought Neo was safe but damn, Jelloapocalypse was right, this show does the impossible yet again. PS. I swear if they make team RWBY (+ Jaune) and Neo forgive each other in the next season so easily imma lose it
@KingChiggy
3 жыл бұрын
Basically she's just around because her powers are relevant to accomplish Cinder's goals, and they needed a stand in while Emerald was absent. Now they have a character that can disguise herself and make illusions in a world that is basically one big acid trip. Gonna see a lot of character development for this mute character.
@metamaster5469
2 жыл бұрын
Fans: No way they can ruin Neo, because Neo doesn't talk! RWBY writers: Are you challenging me?
@sterben_alone3083
3 жыл бұрын
Even though the entire fandom theorized her betraying Cinder, they should've gone that route instead of "throwing us for a loop" and having Cinder betray her. I agree with you 100%. I used to love Neo because she was mysterious and I figured she was smart but the writers made her dumb for the sake of plot like everyone else in the show. Now she's gonna switch sides like Emerald who they fucked up as well. Should've shown Cinder actually"caring" for Emerald in the past even if it was fake. Should've actually shown why Emerald was so loyal to Cinder but oh well. This show is over flowing with missed opportunities smh
@sterben_alone3083
3 жыл бұрын
Now that Neo is in another world with no boss and her allies she trusted betrayed her she really has no reason not to join up with the good guys. Unless they go with something stupid like "she's so blinded by rage and tries to kill Ruby and ends up getting killed which at this point I really don't care about Neo. They already did her character dirty too much. Her switching sides because she has no other choice is pretty lame tbh
@legendarybroliz4578
3 жыл бұрын
Neo is like launch from dragon ball, launch was a plot device for Goku and kuririn to become master roshi's students.
@Kira22558
Жыл бұрын
Launch had an actual character unlike that girl.
@silverscorpio24
3 жыл бұрын
No one on this show is a character anymore. They're constructs that do what the writers tell them to.
@mechcannon
3 жыл бұрын
Neo is a fine idea for a unique sidekick with better powers than the rest of the goons. A less fine idea to carry any plot line on her shoulders. Just wipe the whole conflict with cinder and make her, her villainous agent give her moments of perhaps regret or disagreement to give her maybe some nuances but keep her there until something big happens that might change that. But she's a sidekick. A competent sidekick badass she didn't need to be complicated. She needed to be jaws from Bond.
@casualfanatic4217
3 жыл бұрын
Usually mute characters are one of my favourites because actions speaks louder than words. But then I think back on previous volumes and I realize, what has Neo done?
@machine1685
3 жыл бұрын
Neo couldve been such a good wild card character. She couldve had no real allegiances and only helped people for as long as the alliance was beneficial to herself.
@insignia9325
3 жыл бұрын
Neo is Penny 0.2 , resurrected in Volume 6 to serve plot 😂
@RudeXII
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, and now do one about how Penny is also not a character, and how she was brought back and fucking killed three times for no good reason. What was the point of bringing Penny back and making her take maiden powers from winter just for her to die and give the maiden powers to winter? She's not a character, she's fan service, and she's only in the show to say salutations
@52leveler
3 жыл бұрын
You know why they have her betray neo like this? instead of leaving her to burn? they force neo to be stuck with team ruby so she can get a "redemption", maybe they will have ruby clear to neo that she didn't kill roman, maybe they will force them to team up to get out of that place, the point is they make her get stuck with the good guys, what other possible route could it be but making her switch sides? The only reason she stick with cinder was revenge, now she has all the reasons to stay with them and even help them, its the same thing that happen with emerald, why? cus is neo, and shes a fan favorite, yes she may not have been ruined as a character herself for not having dialogue but she was dragged along this nonsense like the rest.
@thefairybug40
3 жыл бұрын
I honest-to-god blame the heterochromia and muteness for why people seem to like her so much. She looks like someone's fanfic OC Do NoT sTeAl!!1! People like her because she looks like the kind of schticky, extra sort of character they would make. And her muteness allows them to project whatever feelings and motivations they want onto her. Add a dash of steampunk/Alice In Wonderland flavor in the form of her wardrobe, and BOOM -- you've got yourself a fanservice wetdream.
@strife2504
3 жыл бұрын
if u give a 2 yo a candy or doll or even a smile they will love u and understand u r useful or on their side but neo on the other hand didn't get a single shit from cinder and still trusted her like.....wtf?
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