The worst thing you can do as a writer is make the audience think you have never written your own story before.
@lordsinister707
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. There should be at 3 rough drafts before a writer evens think about the final draft.
@GameBreaker1055
2 жыл бұрын
@yeh uda Well then, enlighten us. What IS RWBY?
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
2 жыл бұрын
@yeh uda , Vex unlike CRWBY knows what character development, world building, etc etc are, and he’s mentioned countless exams on both One Piece and Hunter Hunter having everything an animated series being the best in quality compared to a series like RWBY.
@rimzaaah5892
7 ай бұрын
*cough cough* vivziepiop
@KingKP96
3 жыл бұрын
The shot of Tyrion stabbing Clover with Qrow's sword is 100% all they wanted out of that scene. They just had no clue how to do it because Qrow Vs. Tyrian already established that they're relatively equal in a 1V1 so obviously Qrow + Clover against Tyrian should be a pretty obvious outcome. So what do you do when you need Clover dead in a very specific way but there's no way to do it sensibly? Just have Qrow forget that Tyrion is a psychotic murderer that tried to kidnap his niece and almost killed him. Obviously. OOOOOOR you could have Qrow fight Tyrion and get disarmed and injured then have Clover come in to take over the fight. Tyrion could notice Qrow down and out of aura, fire some shots at him to finish him off, Clover comes in to deflect the shots, and while he's over Qrow giving him a smile happily knowing he's safe Tyrion could rush him and stab him. That was like three minutes of thought I put into that and it makes infinitely more sense then what the writers came up with.
@twinodoom
2 жыл бұрын
I would have rewritten the fight so Qrow loses his weapon in the crash and fights Clover unarmed, then Tyrian sneaks up on Clover from behind while the two are distracted by their fight.
@r.c.8268
2 жыл бұрын
@@twinodoom Congratulations, you have given that scene more thought that the writters did for months
@ProxyDoug
2 жыл бұрын
The worst part of that moment is that it was during a downtime in the fight where Qrow was looking straight at Clover, and yet he didn't saw Tyrian behind him with a giant fucking sword.
@YouthRightsRadical
2 жыл бұрын
You know what would be even easier? Have it be Qrow's fault because of his bad luck semblance like he's constantly going on about. Have Qrow and Clover work together to take down Tyrian, and have Tyrian taunt Qrow about teamwork not working out for him, reminding the viewers of Qrow's semblance and why Clover is such a game changer for Qrow. Have Tyrian focusing exclusively on Clover, taking deliberate hits from Qrow in order to keep battering at Clover. Have Qrow figure out what he's doing and try to warn Clover, but Clover's overconfident. Maybe have Tyrian's aura break and Clover let his guard down thinking the fight's over before Tyrian gets the last hit he needs on Clover to break his aura. The moment Clover's Aura breaks, and his Semblance isn't countering Qrow's, everything goes to shit. Qrow's relatively fresh and tries to kill Tyrian before he can finish off Clover, but something that's obviously bad luck results in Tyrian slipping on some ice or something, so Qrow's thrust ends up impaling Clover instead. Tyrian runs away while Qrow is freaking out about killing Clover, knowing he's got zero chance against Qrow with his aura already down and Qrow fresh. Maybe throwing out a taunt as he goes about how this whole fight never would have happened if Ironwood hadn't ordered Qrow's arrest, giving Qrow something to latch on to and someone to blame other than himself. It'd also be a nice thematic parallel with what's happening with Ironwood if they'd bothered to establish James' semblance driving him insane as the reason for him hyperfocusing on getting the Staff and raising Atlas even after the whale got blown up and he would have had time to get the rest of Mantle evacuated and thus gotten RWBY's willing cooperation.
@lukejones7164
3 жыл бұрын
Characters acting stupid or making bad decisions is only acceptable when it's consistent with their characterization. When it isn't it's bad writing.
@thomasraines1396
3 жыл бұрын
The latter feels like something you would see on a CW show.
@lukejones7164
3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasraines1396 Facts lol
@thomasraines1396
3 жыл бұрын
@@lukejones7164 look at something like the Flash, Barry constantly makes the same mistakes only for him to relearn the same lessons over and over.
@thomasraines1396
3 жыл бұрын
The entire scene with Yang “dying” is bullshit, Blake had enough time to: run to the edge of the platform, try (and fail) to catch Yang and then have her little “NOOOO!” moment, and we’re expected to buy no one else did anything? Qrow teaming up with Tyrian, along with Clover not prioritizing Tyrian (the known mad man and terrorist) over Qrow was stupid. I feel nothing when Clover dies and Qrow angsts about it, because it was entirely their own fault.
@randomcenturion7264
3 жыл бұрын
What's worse is Qrow, ever the irresponsible drunk he's always been, somehow, in his warped ass head, spins the blame on James of all people.
@thomasraines1396
3 жыл бұрын
@@randomcenturion7264 James is the mustache twirling bad guy at this point, so of course everything is his fault.
@Wing578
3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad Vic got fired, so he didn't have to voice these atrocious lines.
@badadvice6276
3 жыл бұрын
@@Wing578 The only thing I'm happy for that whole situation.
@jayp2706
3 жыл бұрын
The late-season feels like they are writing the character to move as little as possible to benefit the animators? feel lazy🤨
@anthonydugar282
3 жыл бұрын
I always thought of how Ruby and Weiss responded to yang’ fall as slow and sloppy and now that I think about it I don’t think we ever seen them this slow even in the first three volumes
@jamesbond3w
3 жыл бұрын
What annoys me so much about that scene (and i haven't even watched the actually season and I know about this from other clips of the same season) is that we've seen Ruby go practically light speed to 'flash' past a laser gridded door. But because the "Sister Bond" was retconned for something much much more interesting *cough* Yang's arm candy *cough* Ruby could give half a schist bout Yang. Like I can understand maybe during the time skip she felt a little distant with her but that could have been more understandable back in Season 5 not now
@pumkin610
3 жыл бұрын
Its not even a shocking scene, there's no blood or pain, its just yang falling asleep and waking up on beach party island.
@HyperfixationStation
3 жыл бұрын
rivaled only by JYR's fight with the Hound
@Sicarius_Avindar
3 жыл бұрын
Also... Yang can fly with her shotguns. She does it all the time to jump around.
@HyperfixationStation
3 жыл бұрын
I just hate seeing Weiss and Winter use gravity glyphs in the same episodes (sometimes scenes) where they seemingly forget they have gravity glyphs and actually NEED them
@Uberman96
3 жыл бұрын
Watching your content really shows just how great rwby could be. All the writers have to do is take a step back and ask themselves "Will this make sense within the established world and story?" Good content as always vexed.
@jinkwon8410
3 жыл бұрын
This is really the same thought process of my relationship with RWBY. "I love RWBY. I do. But I love it now more for its potential."
@pumkin610
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like they don't have creative freedom anymore, they have to make it all dark and the story is so limited in its setting. The characters arent really allowed to explore they are just on an inevitable track. They arent allowed to react like human beings and weiss v a sounds so cut dry and cold. Oh man I wish I could take back racism... We are in so much danger but I won't bother to emote... bruh are you sick or fed up? My rant got off topic but anyways I think the show would be better if we got to focus on all our characters interacting based on a situation rather than following the plot blindly.
@Danny81887
3 жыл бұрын
Indeed, "Keep moving forward" only works assuming you're not heading towards an obvious cliff.
@postsingluarity6159
3 жыл бұрын
@@Danny81887 IMHO, "Keep moving forward" is for me, moving for the better in spite of failures and mistakes.
@DocMicrowave
3 жыл бұрын
Same. So much potential. Wasted. Mainly for the sake of pandering to the loudest parts of the fandom.
@neebgoneoffchu8819
3 жыл бұрын
Dog you damn near had me choking on apple juice with that “jumbo shrimp” to “negating her mass” two hit combo. Keep up these entertaining vids, you never disappoint.
@karczameczka
3 жыл бұрын
I love when characters are self aware. They know when they screw up and can adress that. That's why Jaune's my fav - he's the most aware of his lackings and mistakes in the whole damn show.
@Zac_Frost
3 жыл бұрын
He's also a self insert for one of the main writers, so.... he loses any points he would get otherwise for that.
@pumkin610
3 жыл бұрын
Ruby questions her own leadership skills after yang says something about it. I don't feel like questioning one's own actions is enough, they have to change. Vex said something like this I think
@princeofqrow3181
3 жыл бұрын
@Zoomer Waffen better written in what way his literally a plot device like every other character.
@karczameczka
3 жыл бұрын
@Zoomer Waffen "Flavless self-insert". So first - Miles doesn't write Jaune scenes. Kerry does it. Miles hate Jaune character the same as you guys and voices for limitted screentime. (Nothing strange here - the man can't get break from accusations since day one. But Monty personaly asked him to voice Jaune, so he is) They taking about that in the Reddit interview before Volume 6? 7? And few times in RWBY panels. I know, additional informations, anybody cares, I get it. Also some some arguments are legit and I agree with that. Like f- banana hair.
@karczameczka
3 жыл бұрын
@Zoomer Waffen Second, flawless?! Seriously? He's one of the most flawed character in the show! Ok, so the shortest I can: in the start he desperatly wanted to proof he's worthy of the family name. Add to the mix pride, "toxic" masculinity point of view (I should achive it by myself, cry for help is wrong ect.) and probably romantic idea of Huntsman lifestyle. He was egoist more intrested in "find cute girl to talk to". And then he learned his lessions. I stop here because I proof Jaune is flaw from the beginig. Or do I shall continue?
@Zentari2238
3 жыл бұрын
That part with the bee just killed me, ngl.
@DocMicrowave
3 жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@fork-man
2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes the toxic hand fisted Yuri bait
@rishi5297
Жыл бұрын
Agree
@guicaldo7164
2 жыл бұрын
As an aspiring professional screenwriter: Usually, you don't even _have_ to cut the scenes you like. You just have to pick the scenes you really want in there, and then write the surrounding stuff to set up the scene in a way that makes sense. For example: You really want the shot of Blake and Adam reaching for the blade? Just have Adam lose his gun sometime during the fight. You want Blake to try and catch Yang? Have Blake and Yang be separated from Ruby and Weiss while the latter two are fighting Cinder. Reviews tend to say "they should've just not done the stupid thing", even if doing the logical thing would've made the scene less engaging. So I tend to look at it from a different angle. "they should've done the thing, but in a way that makes it not stupid". That shit's not rocket science, it's not usually all _that_ hard to manipulate the story to set up the moments you want in there.
@VexedViewer
2 жыл бұрын
agreed.
@tweetytang6511
3 жыл бұрын
Centering the story around cool moments only really works with a new piece of media, since rwby already has a whole ass set up behind it, the writers are going to have to realise people remember that stuff whether they like it or not
@pumkin610
3 жыл бұрын
One big fight per volume less go :(
@swiftstrike4044
3 жыл бұрын
If it was just a bunch of random fight scenes without a connecting plot I could tolerate a lot of the dumb crap that they pull. Sadly this is a show that's been going for years so when someone pulls a dumbass move when it could easily be avoided or at least given context for why it was chosen people get frustrated. Which is a shame since as everyone has said this show could have been a classic now it's just an example of how not to do a story.
@tweetytang6511
3 жыл бұрын
@@swiftstrike4044 I get you completely, it’s a shame what became of this because it didn’t start out awful. As critical as I’ve always been of the show since season 1, no one can deny it had some good in it along the way. So it really sucks that it’s become what it is now.
@DocMicrowave
3 жыл бұрын
They obviously would prefer the fandom in general not remember history or lore. Their focus appears to be on the "live-for-the-ship" crowd who prefer to only remember the present. Makes writing plot holes easier if you are writing specifically for a crowd who could care less about anything else but their favorite ship.
@spritemon98
2 жыл бұрын
@@DocMicrowave I'm in the group that will remember plot and lore
@JustSomeUmbreonfromJohto
3 жыл бұрын
This whole video sums up perfectly my frustration with RWBY and stories that could be soo much better than how they are presented. I found this to be very informational, interesting, and thought provoking as all of your videos are. Love your content man. Keep up the good work.
@KamisamanoOtaku
3 жыл бұрын
People do stupid things all the time IRL. If the author acknowledges that is what is happening and DOESN'T use it all willy nilly, it can be acceptable. If executed sufficiently well, it even becomes good and ADDS to immersion.
@DocMicrowave
3 жыл бұрын
And in there lies the problem. It is not executed well. I dare say, no where near sufficiently well.
@patchwurk6652
2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, these kids are stupid all the damn time, but almost every single time the show makes their blatant idiocy ot to be the height of moral character and tactical thinking.... Without doing anything to address the fact that the idea was completely asinine from the get-go and just inexplicably worked because "Plot".
@stickthelanding4785
3 жыл бұрын
For the yang part I’m more confused why that hit harmed yang so much that it not only broke her aura but sent her back as well. Neo is a fast fighter not a strong one( physically strong like yang or Nora) so it should have just sent her to the floor only
@Zac_Frost
3 жыл бұрын
Auras are bullshit in this show, apparently.
@thomasraines1396
3 жыл бұрын
Because the plot says so.
@princeofqrow3181
3 жыл бұрын
Neo rolled a D20 and got a critical hit off on Yang.
@tweetytang6511
3 жыл бұрын
Yang took those hits from Neo better in volume 2. Even though the team ‘trained’, somehow Yang got weaker for that scene to work
@Marc-dm1fh
3 жыл бұрын
It's like space marine armour in 40k, adamantium or balsa as per scene requirement.
@hero9267
3 жыл бұрын
Might Be a hot take I believe if you're writing a serious story, imagine all your viewers as the extreme fan that will remember as much as you. That way you won't have to "pull one over the viewers"
@pregum9019
3 жыл бұрын
I think of this whenever I write stories. Yes it makes things harder, but I feel like the quality of the story gets better by doing so, which makes it worth it
@Zac_Frost
3 жыл бұрын
@@pregum9019 Same when I write. You have to treat your characters as beings with their own ability to remember the things that happen to them, as in-universe.... that's kinda what they are. You've also gotta remember your own story points as well. It takes a lot, and you'll probably be stuck storyboarding more than actually writing most of the time, but as you say, it's *WORTH IT*
@hero9267
2 жыл бұрын
@yeh uda it's not that deep
@MangoMagica
2 жыл бұрын
That’s a really smart way of looking at it
@water_color
3 жыл бұрын
“Gumbo Shrimp” Genius
@browniepotatodipd6177
3 жыл бұрын
Ya😂
@takkarsasori8961
3 жыл бұрын
4:52 Damn just realised those civillians didnt even bother to look back or even be stunned at all. just straight up ran.
@Roloki454
3 жыл бұрын
I know, it looked like a video game where the NPCs don’t react, just runaway when the system detects trouble nearby
@justincooper1342
3 жыл бұрын
That's what a smart civilian does. If something like that happens behind you, you don't stick around to look. You just run.
@Roloki454
3 жыл бұрын
@@justincooper1342 But no human reacts like that, especially during an explosion, when an explosion goes off that close your body will freeze up. And the human reaction is to see where it’s coming from and then run, their brain needs to process what happened then start running.
@justincooper1342
3 жыл бұрын
@@Roloki454 Not always a guarantee. A bit close? Yeah. But there are PLENTY of people who just start running if something exploded behind them (I know because I'm related to one of 'em).
@disgusting2208
3 жыл бұрын
@@justincooper1342 it looks unnatural and extremely stiff.
@warriorofthegrandline2y618
3 жыл бұрын
Piccolo: “y’know you could’ve just flown out of the way right.” Raditz: “Damn you hindsight! Bleh.” Krillen: “I could’ve just used the destructo disk to save my friends BEFORE they were killed” Vegeta: “POWER LEVELS ARE BULLSHIT!” I immediately thought of DBZA when you brought out the “call it out” point because TFS is self aware of the stupidity within DBZ and put emphasis on those points for comedy
@AdmiralRamirez7
3 жыл бұрын
Nail: why are you back flipping? Piccolo:to gain some distance. Kame: YOU CAN FLY!
@thomasraines1396
3 жыл бұрын
Also “Energy sensing’s bullshit.”
@warriorofthegrandline2y618
3 жыл бұрын
Krillen: “if someone with one arm speaks in sign language, is that a speech impediment or an accent.”
@thomasraines1396
3 жыл бұрын
@@warriorofthegrandline2y618 there’s also Gohan constantly wondering why Krillen never uses his Kienzan/Destructo Disk which he answers with “I keep forgetting to do that”.
@loiiysailor1177
3 жыл бұрын
I still think the dumbest moments in DBZ history kirlin and Vegeta being dumb for Cell grain his prefect form
@lordsinister707
3 жыл бұрын
Or another example, why did none of the Merry Huntsmens help team RWBY fight Cinder? Did it really need to take all of them to guide the people through the portals? I mean if the writers went out of their way to make a character like May important. Shouldnt we see her be more active in the plot than just a gasp and run? Or Hell, have a member of someone from team RWBY or JNPR make the mistake and tell them to keep the people going. The show's main problem is the fact that they don't let the show flow naturally. I mean they have already set up a world that could be incredible. The problem is they ate themselves don't follow the rules of this world when they write the story. It makes the story feel disingenuous.
@VenathTehN3RD
2 жыл бұрын
Hell, what about the Atlas military? What even happened to them? Even if they were weakened by the battle, the army clearly didn't just get completely wiped out. At the very least they still had enough manpower to target the Schnee airships before James threatened Mantle with the bomb. Surely at this point, when everyone in both Atlas and Mantle are going through the big shiny portals, at least *some* of the people in the military would have gone through them with the civilians even if just to report what was going on back to Ironwood. They clearly weren't present when Atlas fell, yet they also weren't on the other side of the portals either. It's almost like they just up and vanished the moment that the authors couldn't think of anything else to do with them, and took Team FNKI along for the ride.
@lordsinister707
2 жыл бұрын
@@VenathTehN3RD Full disclosure, I always thought team FNKI couldnhave easily filled the role that Merry Huntsman portrayed of they thought just alittle bit harder
@kingraplhmativo5178
2 жыл бұрын
Cinder is Fall Maiden, also invincible
@lillylane1698
3 жыл бұрын
This is something good to remind people. Audience or writers. Good job Vexxed~
@darkice60000
3 жыл бұрын
honestly that could work, but i'd probably still be peeved most of the time. using the stupid to create a moment is a good idea (like maybe blake blows up at ruby and weiss for not trying to help yang AT ALL) but a lot of the time the shit is so stupid that calling it out but still going along with it would just make it more stupid. for example, the "steal a ship plan" is the dumbest shit ever. even if you have cordoven absolutely roast the main squad for being incredible dumbasses, yeah in the moment it would be gratifying and funny but the audiences faith in the main cast would still crumble to dust when the show goes back to playing them completely straight.
@loiiysailor1177
3 жыл бұрын
The ship of bumblebee just ruin other characters moment's
@tweetytang6511
3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much feel the same way, i don’t think characters calling bullshit in their own story makes it a lot better. Your example of Blake actually having a moment of emotion at Ruby and Weiss not helping would have been a solid scene but that would require the writers thinking about what happens afterwards which they don’t do
@darkice60000
3 жыл бұрын
@@tweetytang6511 maybe if they had kept the lighthearted comedic tone, this would be a more viable option. But they threw that away to comment on real world issues they don't actually understand
@tweetytang6511
3 жыл бұрын
@@darkice60000 you’re completely right, they want to write about things they’re refusing to actually read up on, and adding levity at in appropriate times
@thedarklordx
3 жыл бұрын
I like the steal a ship plan, it's more interesting when the characters are allowed to be something other than pure lawful good
@angrymoogle8591
3 жыл бұрын
Man. Wouldn't it be cool if Ironwood's last fight only involved using a giant canon that's completely impractical in melee range!?
@pumkin610
3 жыл бұрын
Also he isnt willing to sacrifice everything, he just gives up instead of shooting the villains in the face like a boss.
@7Celestron
3 жыл бұрын
At that point even I would've shot them in the face, what else would you have to lose other than your life which you're probably about to lose anyway? Even if it only slightly messes up their hair, that annoyance is the least he could do for everyone that's about to die.
@VenathTehN3RD
2 жыл бұрын
@@pumkin610 Funny how his always-active Semblance that they revealed in a panel in order to justify his descent into villainy conveniently stops functioning when he's actually face-to-face with the villains, isn't it?
@cosmiclikesminecraft
2 жыл бұрын
The funniest part of thst scene was after like 2 characters fell in I literally was like “oh got it half the cast is gonna end up there and it doesn’t kill you” becuase once you throw a certain amount of characters into the pit it’s obvious it’s gonna have little to no consequences
@kneeofjustice9619
3 жыл бұрын
Oh no he brought up Adam VS Blake. *Readies the trenches*
@wolfbane7497
3 жыл бұрын
That fight was so stupid
@Axel_Kasai
3 жыл бұрын
@@wolfbane7497 mainly because it didn't need to happen lol
@wolfbane7497
3 жыл бұрын
@@Axel_Kasai mainly because Adam became a retarded character for no reason
@Axel_Kasai
3 жыл бұрын
@@wolfbane7497 that too
@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
2 жыл бұрын
@@wolfbane7497 , Miles and Kerry seemed to forgot on why Monty Oum liked the main villain in the Greed Island Arc of Hunter Hunter and Dio from JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure, so they killed off Adam in the worst way possible that only a retard that’s never been to any writing class from elementary school to high school/college would write a scene like Adam’s death.
@w_out7631
3 жыл бұрын
Vex uploads right before Halloween to scare the RWBY stans lmaooo
@CaptainDope
3 жыл бұрын
Clover's death is easily one of the worst moments in the whole show. It's even a great example of one the worst writings of any show ever. It would have been easy to make it work. Here's how: The plane crashes. Tyrian is unconscious. Clover and Qrow fight. Qrow loses his sword but still manages to break Clover's Aura. That's when Tyrian wakes up, grabs Qrow's sword and impales Clover. Tyrian escapes and Qrow is arrested for "killing" Clover. See? Qrow is no longer that much of an idiot and didn't have to ally himself with darkness. I'm not even a professional writer. I can't believe none of the writers thought of that. I guess they really got tunnel visioned by "Ironwood is the bad guy and it's all his fault!"
@pumkin610
3 жыл бұрын
Ironwood was a good man, he was a hero. His turn to the dark side was almost believable too.
@tweetytang6511
3 жыл бұрын
That’s a pretty solid way to write that scene, and there are tons of other options too which is what makes it frustrating. They could also have written it in a way where when Tyrian crashes the plane and everyone jumps out, they land in different areas, allowing one on one fights rather than nonsensical pair ups. They could even have it where we the audience see Clover’s aura break before hand so when Qrow goes in to fight him he could land a fatal blow without knowing. Heck they could have Miss Only not faint and be the one to break Clover’s aura and Tyrian pop in to deal a killing blow. Though this option wouldn’t be one since it’s too much to animate for them. Either way there are tons and your version already makes it less ridiculous.
@loiiysailor1177
3 жыл бұрын
The writers wants to tell us it was Qrow bad luck that wasn't his semblance that was him being dumb , so they pretty much telling us it was dumbness that cause Summer rose to disappear, obviously they don't how write bad luck
@rashamdickson9810
3 жыл бұрын
Calling out the stupid is why scenes like Ren going off on Yang, and Watts on Cinder were so satisfying albeit retroactively
@thomasraines1396
3 жыл бұрын
Sadly Watts dies for daring to call out Cinder.
@lonerevenant0
3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasraines1396 that made me so mad because i was REALLY hoping for them to develop a father daughter bond with each other in a way but noooo that'd be too hard for crwby.
@thomasraines1396
3 жыл бұрын
@@lonerevenant0 I liked the fact they were always at each other throats, both Watts and Cinder were shown to be extremely petty so it makes sense, also Cinder’s base personality is meant to be that of a compulsive liar and manipulator, no one who really knows about her would want anything to do with her outside of working with her.
@VenathTehN3RD
2 жыл бұрын
And even the Ren one was kind of ruined by the fact that, as with pretty much any time someone criticizes Team RWBY's actions, the entire argument is conveniently forgotten by the next time the characters interact.
@bunnyattic0009
3 жыл бұрын
"Gumbo shrimp" should be the name for Blake's weapon from now on 😂
@calxiyn
3 жыл бұрын
I think that this is really interesting! I think calling it out is definitely an option, but the alternative is obviously to adjust the scene slightly. Like in the case with Blake saving Yang, what if the force from the push was enough to push Ruby off the side as well for example - that removes her from being able to save Yang, Weiss would make a split second choice to save Ruby, and that would leave Blake to try. (Is Penny there? I can’t remember, but anyway) basically either call it out like you said with the Cinder example, or get rid of the other “alternatives” haha
@groynin
3 жыл бұрын
They probably wanted Neo attacking Ruby and Yang saving her, then Blake trying to save Yang, all together. I agree they could've just rewrote it to make it smoother and make more sense... just have Cnder fighting the 4 of them a bit more before Neo showed up, I guess, have Yang acutally lose her aura during the fight and not in a single blow from Neo, have Ruby fall to the ground, maybe momentarily unconscious/dazed when Neo tries to sneak up on her, so she doesn't even understand what happened until after she recovered her senses. We could even have a 'she sacrificed herself for me, and I couldn't even move a finger to help' later.
@aqmf2424
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like adjusting the scenes is much better overall. Calling out mistakes can be a thing once or twice... but do it too many times, it starts to feel like the writing is patched together.
@thomasraines1396
3 жыл бұрын
@@aqmf2424 isn’t it?
@Rangerj04
3 жыл бұрын
Penny was there, she just stood still and did nothing
@VaporeyeZ
3 жыл бұрын
Yh literally make it more believable tht ruby and Weiss couldn't react in time
@volrag
3 жыл бұрын
It's a sign of good writing to make excellent scenes feel completely natural and reasonable.
@poketdoom
3 жыл бұрын
“We just have to hope we didn’t forget about anything”
@the_infernoking3838
3 жыл бұрын
2:53 Thank you so much for pointing that out. It really says something when they had to retcon that scene to support people defending this dumb scene by makin the teaser to v9 by having in First person perspective.
@crucialstormxyz9352
3 жыл бұрын
That's so true. In fact, that v9 version scene just makes me laugh more. Because you're telling me, Yang's aura broke from one slash and whatever, that Neo hit her so hard that sends her flying and like a skipping stone? Neo must be REALLY strong as I thought. XD
@the_infernoking3838
3 жыл бұрын
@@crucialstormxyz9352 Right? How the hell does a sword launch someone? Lul. Now I will say; for rwby it’s cause of how blades respond to aura…buuuut that’s countered by the fact that Penny got pierced by Cinders claws, how come she wasn’t launched?
@fenrisvermundr2516
2 жыл бұрын
@@the_infernoking3838 Since her Aura broke. Yang would be stabbed. Now if Neo swung her umbrella or had kicked her that would justify Yang being knocked down. Just change it to where Yang is near the edge and boom a logical explanation.
@zerotohero1483
3 жыл бұрын
So, a sad side effect of my college education as an aspiring writer is that I can’t enjoy as many shows as I used to. Most of the CW Super Hera shows are unwatchable for me now. And while RWBY isn’t at that point yet, my enjoyment has definitely gone down as my understanding of how to tell a story has gone up. When I write a chapter for my book, or a short cutscene for the game I’m working on in classes, I approach it with the intent to have someone else read it a d give me feedback before I am finished with it. Then after I address the feedback I was given, I have the same people read through my changes to get the best possible product I can. A good majority of RWBY feels like it was a first draft that was just given to the VAs to record. It FEELS like that. For all I know, they go through multiple drafts, and if they do, it concerns me. Something else I noticed is that script also feels like it assumes that the audience has the attention span of a two year old with the constant retcons, characters suddenly acting like they’ve developed or always been written a certain way, and motivations and character shifts coming seemingly out of nowhere.
@williambragg6171
3 жыл бұрын
Well said. I am still studying writing and even I can point out all of the messed up plot points in the show and tell them where they need work. I mean honestly this is just embarrassing, it`s like they just throw whatever ideas they think of into the show and call it good.
@Inspectre11
3 жыл бұрын
Also the moment where Yang activated her semblance to save Ruby from Neo, and despite seemingly taking no notable damage she got one-shot by Neo. It doesn't make sense since we've seen Yang's aura take much heavier hits. In the fight with Torchwick in the paladin in season two she got slammed into a wall (crushed between the wall and the paladin, also AFTER being slammed THROUGH another wall), and then getting punched into the ground by that same giant robot. It just makes no sense a single slash from a sword can deplete all of Yang's aura.
@AstralMuffin105
3 жыл бұрын
Think about what all had happened over the previous 2 Volumes: she'd barely had any time to rest and restore her reserves to maximum, so between forcibly activating her Semblance to intercept Neo's attack and running on a diminished tank, it's totally within the realm of reason that the attack broke her aura.
@thomasraines1396
3 жыл бұрын
@@AstralMuffin105 no it isn’t prior to her being hit they were all hanging out at the Schnee house, at the very least some of her aura should’ve been there.
@zaikozenkai849
3 жыл бұрын
Some tips on rewriting the series 1.remove the bumblby ship 2.have ruby mature through the series 3.give Salem a weakness
@pumkin610
3 жыл бұрын
I think the ship could work if the characters are allowed to have a personality and life outside of that ship, if Adam wasn't a jealous ex. Also if they could actually acknowledge it and talk to eachother that would be cool.
@zaikozenkai849
3 жыл бұрын
@@pumkin610 the bumblby ship was made just to kiss some shipper’s @$$
@pumkin610
3 жыл бұрын
@@zaikozenkai849 maybe or to support lgbt or to add to their characters. It makes sense to me, they had a close bond born from blake being such an edgy sleepless cat.
@zaikozenkai849
3 жыл бұрын
@@pumkin610 if it were the latter then couldn’t they add homosexual side characters
@pumkin610
3 жыл бұрын
@@zaikozenkai849 I mean they do have lesbian side characters.
@garmadonthesensei59
3 жыл бұрын
RWBY would be so much better if it was character-driven. Instead, it focuses on plot first while actually developing characters is put on a back-burner that’s not even lit. If you want to keep your audience, write consistent characters that change and grow *organically*, not being stupid because the plot demands it. That’s just hecking lazy. 🤦♀️ When FANS can write fan-fics with better quality, you know there’s a problem 😂
@laumondsenior1625
3 жыл бұрын
I always say if rwby in general was self aware then we wouldn't have a serious problem if i'm being completely honest.
@devildavin
3 жыл бұрын
i think my favorite call out is in DBZA when freiza shot a bunch of beams at Goku and he blocks or deflects them all. Freiza shoots one at vegeta while goku is right there and he does not block it Vegeta: why didn't you block that one? Goku: I thought you had it Vegeta: NOOOOOO!!!!!
@fabionlewis3884
3 жыл бұрын
“Run over there and throw her Gumbo Shrimp” okay not going to lie I cracked up at that part lol. But yeah RWBY characters being stupid to move the plot forward is pretty much a given these days. Anyway entertaining video as always.
@99pittbull47
3 жыл бұрын
this was entertaining and I total understand and feel the same way, I'm not as vocal about it, but most of the time I take whatever is given to me. Good video as well.
@borisradojkov7051
3 жыл бұрын
They can't exactly call out the stupid since accourding to the commentaries they are 'Punching above our weight in writting'
@shinkurea1084
3 жыл бұрын
Been a while since I’ve seen ya talk about this show 😳 Perfect timing 👀
@Hansss24
3 жыл бұрын
Rwby can be summed as “The characters lose a brain cell every time they’re on screen”
@pumkin610
3 жыл бұрын
Ruby lost her eyes, weiss lost the emotion in her voice, yang lost her consciousness, blake I don't even know
@thomasraines1396
3 жыл бұрын
@@pumkin610 Blake lost whatever individuality she had, she only exists as one half of a ship now.
@pumkin610
3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasraines1396 Bingo, she's combating racism by um uh having more ears than normal
@thomasraines1396
3 жыл бұрын
@@pumkin610 she also passive aggressively whines about how hard her people (supposedly) have it, or at least she used to.
@randomcenturion7264
3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasraines1396 Meanwhile, we've seen human slavery with Cinder and humans have to deal with a death cult (White Fang) shooting up schools and robbing trains, allying with MILF Satan's pets.
@Hilversumborn
3 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story: Always proofread your work
@feezee5196
3 жыл бұрын
0:41 Remember when it was Qrow's job to call out how stupid the maiden powers and plot were? Resulting in everyone enjoying his character... Now sadly, hes become the very thing he swore to destroy.
@milovillarrealaguilera1384
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Vex for the good content. Hell I can always come to your videos for great RWBY stuff and it's even made me a better writer over time. Kudos 💙
@milovillarrealaguilera1384
3 жыл бұрын
YO I GOT A HEART FROM VEX LET'S GOOOOOO
@observer2484
3 жыл бұрын
Yang falling over the edge could have been solved: Weiss would have cast a glyph on the edge at last second but Yang would have been knocked out or barely conscious WITHOUT aura breaking. Cinder takes advantage and shoots a fire blast at Weiss when she watches at Yang for a split moment with either Ruby or Blake trying to stop the blast only to be thrown at Weiss by power of the blast. Weiss would lose concentration and Yang would fall over the edge with either Ruby failing to catch her with her semblance or Blake using her weapon before Yang disappears to the Void. At least that is how I would do it and I didn´t think this for long.
@loiiysailor1177
3 жыл бұрын
but nope gotta hit Ruby and Weiss with the dumb stick so Blake can go " nnnnnooooooo my darling Yang what ever should I do" ( face pulm)
@tweetytang6511
3 жыл бұрын
In your version at least the team does something so that’s already a marked improvement
@observer2484
3 жыл бұрын
@@tweetytang6511 Thanks. Any pointers?
@tweetytang6511
3 жыл бұрын
@@observer2484 your version makes sense and it’s good. A way to make it easier for the animators could just be having Cinder barrage the remaining members of the team with her powers so that they are unable to react to Yang falling at all without losing their own auras. By having Cinder (and even Neo if they want) actually interfere could also lead to the moment of Blake throwing Gamble Shroud late, Weiss summoning a glyph too slowly or Ruby being unable to reach her sister. RT is in a state where they’re trying to animate rwby with as little actual animation as possible so anything too flashy they probably wouldn’t touch unfortunately.
@nickalex4235
3 жыл бұрын
Jaune got PTSD sure but this doesnt stop him from reviving and powering up Weiss big time in Haven WHY doesnt Jaune amp Weiss or Penny in that fight like at all?
@BeetleTricks411
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this is part of the reason the Battle of City Volumes End up[ being worse than the volume before it, it becomes so overly ambitious that it focuses on looking good...AND THATS IT
@Mark-fc7tu
2 жыл бұрын
3:38 The unspoken flaw with this, is that many creators think that being self-aware automatically makes the stupid seem funny and acceptable. A lot of comedy Isekai stories tend to rely too much on being self-aware of their own premises.
@Supergamesniper9
3 жыл бұрын
I wish Vexed Viewer could go to RTX and bring this stuff up to the writers at a Q&A panel. I'd love to be there for the fallout.
@Rangerj04
3 жыл бұрын
Last time someone (that I know of) brought up a question that put the writing into question, they kinda got a condescending answer from Barbara. I believe it was the youtuber fluffmaster and he asked how did Jaune get Pyrrha's equipment to upgrade his own, since everything she used was either broken to pieces or reduced to ashes, minus her head gear. And it was in Grimm infested territory and had no way of knowing if she was dead doing the fall, and he was flown out into the city of vale
@thomasraines1396
3 жыл бұрын
@@Rangerj04 I never thought about that but yeah he shouldn’t have been able to get her gear.
@Marc-dm1fh
3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasraines1396 My headcanon kind of answers this, but feel free to point out any holes. Qrow finds Ruby after searching as a bird. Gets an airship to collect her, finds Pyrrha's headgear and takes it. How else would he be able to tell Ruby "she's gone" with any certainty? As for the red sash, unless it's a piece of cloth Jaune wears in her memory, I got nothing.
@thomasraines1396
3 жыл бұрын
@@Marc-dm1fh that’s the best explanation as to how Jaune got anything, but sadly it’s head canon so Jaune in the actual show just has it.
@stoogemuffinstuffin8569
3 жыл бұрын
@@Rangerj04 That was TheFloofArtist. He made the "RWBY is Broken" videos
@kchnbrn
2 жыл бұрын
I believe that one alternative to calling out the stupid is making the stupid the only option. Adam not using his gun and instead reaching for the sword would've worked if he either lost his gun or it got damaged or something, something. Thus making his stupid decision his best option. You already brought up the forgetting about Cinder Part and perfectly handled that, so I got nothing to add there- The dumb Yang Death scene, once again could've been made less dumb if Weiss and Ruby weren't just... standing there? Like. I don't know. Have them too far away or occupied otherwise to make Blake's attempt the only option. As for the whole Clover Death scene... I don't know, that's a hard one. I think they should've left Tyrion out of the fight entirely. I believe it would've been a lot more emotional and actually impactful if it was a Clover vs Qrow one on one fight. With Tyrion not doing anything within the fight until the very hand. Have Clover disarm Qrow on the ground. And that's when Tyrion comes in to stab him, yadayadayada. They could easily tease that moment Chekhov's Gun style by showing the shot where Tyrion starts to undo his handcuffs during the fight, but then leave him out and actually make it a surprise. Rather than Qrow being... Well... Stupid. I'm mostly just rambling spontaneous ideas. Because I think the problem isn't just the plot induced stupidity, but actually insanely ridiculous and obvious the stupidity is most of the time.
@Fzy-j
3 жыл бұрын
One of the things I wished you pointed out, Even if say Blake threw the weapon as a desperate attempt to save Yang, the most she can do is land on her foot, and possibly even drag her and probably cut her foot, she’s so far away, and she can only probably reach her “weapon” to her, not the rope part, not call her friends for help to support and some sort of rope grappling or something, or form a speed moves to support and lift Yang or reach her, instead of panicking and running towards her, while Ruby stands there, Weiss is she even in the team, and throw a stabby weapon that could potentially hurt her or cut her foot, does she need to lose another limb Blake? Or is this another stupid plot point for the sake of the shipping? Which makes team RWBY look worse and dumber really… That’s one the things I’m surprised nobody pointed out in the RWBY community Blake’s attempt in saving was pointless and stupid, at worst harmful to Yang I get she was emotional and desperate, but didn’t they established they’re trained huntresses? And they work great as team? That’s why they can beat the Ace ops? At the face of any danger they can regroup and help each other, save each other, support each other? No? So you defeat your own points for forced plot points like this?!
@Rangerj04
3 жыл бұрын
When I saw that movie about Quentin Tarantino, a clip from behind the scenes from death proof showed where Quentin constantly ask the question why to one of the actresses regarding one of the scenes. He asked it so many times that they got to bottom of why the things are happening and the characters within it. That to me sounds like a simple solution for the writers to fix the scenes they want to show
@worldwaide
2 жыл бұрын
Weiss: This atleast *seems* airtight, for Ruby at least...are we forgetting anything? Jaune: We may be forgetting some *one* Ren: “Thats right, what about- Cinder...?” Yang: “Tch, what *about* Cinder? Even if she did show up, and even if she did have maiden powers, we can still wipe the floor with her.” Blake: “I’m no so sure about that. Maybe we should-“ Ruby: “There’s no time for that, we need to focus on what’s right in front of us. Just- be ready for anything and then we’ll-“ Cinder: “Sup.” Ruby: “hey. AND THEN WE’LL-“
@hyphenq
3 жыл бұрын
Waiting for Stupid for the sake of the Plot 4
@wolfbane7497
3 жыл бұрын
Yet for some reason when you call this crap out you get labeled a bigot kind of funny right.
@ebensennett3095
3 жыл бұрын
If I ever make a show of any sort, I'm just gonna have this guy watch every episode beforehand to make sure it makes sense.
@strikeforce1500
3 жыл бұрын
One of the most confusing things is the fact that Semblance now can "Evolve" out of the blue, like.. Why?, how?, why this is the first time ever shown?. Why Ruby's whole silver eyes power didn't trigger when Yang, HER SISTER, fall into the void, like when she saw Pyrrha die?. Why not use the damm relic, as three questions, and be safe for 100 years at least, and planned how to beat Salem? Why the guy who taught Cinder how to fight, would try to imprison her, when A. He knew she was a slave and abused, and B. He is a faunus himself, he should know what being oppressed is like. And lastly, why they try to sell Jaune is being better fighter, but each time he fights an actual antagonistic he gets his butt kick? Seriously, he have one of the most OP semblance for combat, by turning himself into a tank, and is just reduced to being a lame TF 2's Medic.
@kyn0009
3 жыл бұрын
Calling it out doesnt fix the problem in fact it draws attention to it and shows intentional neglect and poor planning. For example : If I do a exam admit I dont know the answer that doesct mean I still get the points for that question. Writers have absolute control over the events, circumstances and setting of the story. So there is no valid excuse or way to for writer to make up for obvious plotholes and inconsistancies.
@VexedViewer
3 жыл бұрын
Well I said I would prefer they write something else. But IF you're going to add the bullshit don't try to sneak it past the audience that's more annoying.
@iatemycat5320
3 жыл бұрын
I remember when team rwby used to lose fights, because their oponent was stronger. Now, they only win but not because they got stronger, but because their oponents are made stupid for the sake of losing....
@drearydoll6305
3 жыл бұрын
Its unfortunate how plot can't happen without characters being braindead.
@chronenojysk5107
3 жыл бұрын
The writers can easily make a moment where characters do a little slip up like when Weiss said “Just a 1 way ticket to Vacuo” causing it to not be able to go back. But forgot about Cinder when making the portal.
@xsirenflyx
2 жыл бұрын
She never came out the other side though to be fair
@patchwurk6652
2 жыл бұрын
I... Actually have a hard as hell time trying to gauge how they even Could fix this by this point. Like the past several seasons have been such a cavalcade of bad decisions on top of bad decisions on the part of Team RWBY(and CRWBY) that you can't really address any One problem without finding it connected to another two disjointed threads. Like I'm genuinely at a loss as to where the "nucleus" fuckup was on this thing.
@xwardragonx
2 жыл бұрын
I just never understood the point of having Penny get the Winter Maiden powers, going through all that trouble to save her, then killing her off in literally the next scene so Winter can get the powers that would’ve gone to her in the first place. It just felt like they realized they hadn’t played around with Penny being loosely based on Pinocchio (becoming a real boy, or girl in this case) and just kinda threw that in. It’s like going from point A to point B, but skipping B to go to C, D, E and F…and then circle back around to B.
@thomasraines1396
2 жыл бұрын
It’s like show went in one big circle.
@grandempressvicky6387
2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasraines1396 feels more like a squiggly line going nowhere. A circle implies some effort to make it come together was made.
@thomasraines1396
2 жыл бұрын
@@grandempressvicky6387 it’s just one long straight line, a line that has no alternations or changes.
@patchwurk6652
2 жыл бұрын
@@grandempressvicky6387 It's a circle drawn by a toddler on meth.
@BuildLancer
3 жыл бұрын
I pretty much only watch RWBY out of habit now
@pumkin610
3 жыл бұрын
I watch youtubers now lol
@nichoudha
3 жыл бұрын
Find something more interesting and worth your time to do.
@VenathTehN3RD
2 жыл бұрын
I'm at the Season 7/8 Game of Thrones stage with RWBY. I'm basically just watching it because I've already invested so much time into the series that I want to see how it ends, even if I'm pretty confident that it's going to be mediocre at best.
@itsmefm
3 жыл бұрын
VEX! I can't believe KZitem actually gave me a notification this time, nice! EDIT: I want to like Bumblbee. I WANT to so badly. But I can't. Every single moment between Yang and Blake is either misplaced (like when they were dancing in volume 7) or the scene you mentioned at the end of Volume 8. It just makes me hate Bumblbee so much. Oh and I also hate that the writers finally acknowledged that Yang and Ruby are sisters but gave Blake that moment when Yang fell instead of Ruby. Like, WHY
@iatemycat5320
3 жыл бұрын
I liked the ship at first, like whiterose but now its ruined for me
@NekoKujo6785
3 жыл бұрын
The only saving grace is all the spicy art that's come from the ship. Good stuff.
@itsmefm
3 жыл бұрын
@@NekoKujo6785 YES THE SPICY ART IS SO GOOD
@loiiysailor1177
3 жыл бұрын
They really want this ship to sell even it means scaifce good story telling to get people care about bumblebee more then everything else in this show!
@thomasraines1396
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t like it because fundamentally it has problems: Yang has (supposed) abandonment issues, Blake’s first instinct is to run away when things get tough. Also there’s the fact they don’t really talk about their issues.
@Mouldypeanut
3 жыл бұрын
Another approach is to make the least logical solution the most logical or the only solution. Why did Blake help Yang and not Ruby or Weiss? Ruby and Weiss are too busy. Engaged with the enemy, helping civilians escape or otherwise too far away. With this approach, just be careful it’s not too contrived.
@WaterfallYT
3 жыл бұрын
Examples of BS: Team RWBY lying to Ironwood Ironwood bombing Mantle Adam oneshotting Yang in V3 V6 were the door is Locked for Wiess Yang Semblance either being SSJ or Uno Reverse Card Ruby somehow headbutts Mercury Cynders Plan in V5 The F*ck Rhodes was doing in Cynder backstory
@thomasraines1396
3 жыл бұрын
Some other examples of BS: the entire Faunus oppression plot line, Adam turning into a whiny obsessive stalker in regards to Blake despite the fact we have canonical proof he didn’t care about her in the grand scheme of things (telling one of his grunts to “Forget it!” in regards to searching for her after she defected from the White Fang).
@Marc-dm1fh
3 жыл бұрын
One thing that really bothered me about Rhodes - he saw how a minor was being mistreated for years and did NOTHING about it except train her in deadly fighting techniques. There's so much wrong with that episode that I skip past the hotel scenes on any rewatch.
@thomasraines1396
3 жыл бұрын
@@Marc-dm1fh it’s like giving someone with a history of starting small fires a flamethrower, it can only end badly and the person who gave them access should be punched square in the face.
@rockmanbeta8055
3 жыл бұрын
- After Yang falls - Blake has her moment to cry out for Yang. However, as she gets a small amount of time to process, she gets incredibly mad and looks to Ruby and/or Weiss for some sort of answer. However, given Ruby is Yang's sister, and she was closer to the indecent, she decides to target her midst her sheer anger and grief. Blake could call out her semblance and how she stood there doing NOTHING to save her own sister, while Ruby profusely apologizes and gets extremely worked up after coming out of shock. The major problem that comes out of this suggestion is the fact that it's all happening during the fight between Neo and Cinder... so it begs the question "how do they have time to argue about this?" However I feel like it's a step in the right direction
@dycedargselderbrother5353
3 жыл бұрын
I have a hard time believing they don't forget what they've previously written. It's just too inconsistent, and it's not always for the sake of a cool shot. For example, there is no purpose for Oscar to recall that the portals are "a one way ticket" when he wasn't present for the scene, other than the writers forgot he wasn't there. This sort of thing happens, but it usually happens in shows with a lot more runtime and a lot more writers involved, and it tends to happen between seasons, not adjacent episodes.
@Hashbrown1682
3 жыл бұрын
Ya know, I just realized Adam still had blush and could've shot Blake, like how yang still has Ember Cecilia and could've shot Adam
@Axel_Kasai
3 жыл бұрын
They probably couldn't find a way to make that fit into the adam/yang fighting over Blake theme they were going for :p
@Hashbrown1682
3 жыл бұрын
@@Axel_Kasai well they could've just not done any of it
@thomasraines1396
3 жыл бұрын
@@Axel_Kasai fighting over Blake would be like fighting over a bland piece of toast.
@Axel_Kasai
3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasraines1396 I know. And yet they did it anyway
@Axel_Kasai
3 жыл бұрын
@@Hashbrown1682 if only that were an option :p
@Mark-fc7tu
2 жыл бұрын
People have attempted to hold the cast of RWBY accountable for their stupid mistakes and questionable choices. But RWBY doesn't have characters. It has 3D character models with dialouge.
@thomasraines1396
2 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t have characters, it has caricatures.
@_BlueBlue
3 жыл бұрын
Good point. If they're gonna make the characters do something stupid they might as well acknowledge it or make it absolutely awesome.
@chocobo4646
3 жыл бұрын
I would much prefer the writers strive to write the scenes in a way that makes sense opposed to having the annoying, stupid and illogical moments in the first place. Reviewing and redrafting should definitely be a writer's friends. But, I definitely understand this point from the perspective of, "we're already in production and have a schedule to keep, so we can't afford any major changes anymore." The best you can do at that point would be to at least put in some lines or easier to produce dialogue scenes when you spot the stupid. You also got me to think about that part of the story again, and you made me realize that team RWBY can't remember Cinder prior to making the portals since they could (presumably) make the gate not allow Cinder or her allies through. Honestly, I think a scene where they realize people are in big danger if they show up and get worried about the mistake they made could've been a little neat.
@leonryuko970
3 жыл бұрын
This is why before making the final draft of something, go back and make sure that it makes sense.
@DocMicrowave
3 жыл бұрын
It must be quite a challenge to write for Ruby now. They obviously have worked/working to take the show in different directions. Having your hands tied by years of lore and history must be frustrating. Especially dealling with a majority of the fandom who did not forget that history.
@thomasraines1396
3 жыл бұрын
It must be so difficult having to keep track of things you’ve written.
@DocMicrowave
3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasraines1396 Either they have forgotten what was written before (Highly doubtful), Or it is a deberate attempt to ignore past writings. Pretend like it never happened. This is the tell now.
@leoultimaupgraded9914
3 жыл бұрын
Ima just say, after playing Brutal Legend (hear me out), a decent action game with a bit of RTS to it, despite it having a kinda dumb plot twist and dramatic scenes happening out of nowhere that could’ve been resolved pretty easily, it’s far better then what RWBY’s been coming up with recently. This doesn’t make sense comparing a many years old DoubleFine cult classic game to a cartoon, but I just wanted to say this because it was on my mind
@JinSeiryuu
3 жыл бұрын
2:40 you say that but I'm still upset at the fact that they needed to nerf Yang like having her aura break in one hit by Neo just so Yang can fall into Volume 9 😑
@salgutierrez4710
3 жыл бұрын
Aura is the most consistently inconsistent thing in this show besides the writing
@anthonydeadman
Жыл бұрын
"Writers should call out the stupid" Nah it looks like they prefer to double down on the stupid instead and alienate their audience as a result.
@somescottishlassie891
3 жыл бұрын
I've honestly lost all respect for the show and writers. "Gumbo shrimp" xD
@kanden27
3 жыл бұрын
They just put too much in. That’s pretty much my final prognosis of RWBY. Too many powers with a “magic” system that is too convoluted for them. Then the characters. Of course too many, for the main cast. It should be RWBY, then maybe with them, but on the side Oscar and Qrow as the side story to open up the world for the MCs. Or give the MCs better knowledge about the world. Alongside the villains as their own thing. JNPR should have stayed at beacon and been tied to that area. Also, there’s not enough relevant banter between the team. You have the simple shipping. RW/BY but other than that, the writers can’t blend them any other believable way. While a lot of it is processing emotions and making each other feel better. It’s be funny if Ruby picked on Weiss like she did in volume 1. Or have Ruby be Weiss’ dress up doll and trying to pretty her up as a high fashion Atlas girl. Their world building is a mess. With again, too many contradictions. I would say Retconn, but that forgives the writers actions and let’s them get away with it.
@gayanudugampola8973
3 жыл бұрын
I think JNPR could have made for recurring side characters or deuteragonists.
@pumkin610
3 жыл бұрын
I think there's not enough time to tell a good story. They arent focusing on the characters just the plot.
@thomasraines1396
3 жыл бұрын
I barely buy them as teammates let alone friends.
@tweetytang6511
3 жыл бұрын
And the sad part is even with all this potential content they use so damn little of it. Magic is condensed into contrivance and magical wiggly woos, they can’t even focus on the characters they want to, things just get forgotten and everything is a mess
@patchwurk6652
2 жыл бұрын
@@pumkin610 ...How the hell do you have 8 damn seasons over the course of eight years and still no time to develop your characters? Maybe if those doorknobs didn't retcon their own damn plot every ten minutes they'd have more time for the rest of the show?
@windstar120025
2 жыл бұрын
The Neo turning into Oscar part kind makes sense tho. Your less likely to catch agro when you have a trusted face holding pressious cargo rather. Should have made her try harder to leave unnoticed tho.
@TheArtSozosha
2 жыл бұрын
I think a good example of stupidity being called out is Gurren Lagann. The characters in that for the majority, are idiots. Following an enemy to their home base didn't occur to them until they brought on a character that was more of a voice of reason. And times when they were trying to be smarter with how they acted, it led to people being harmed and chaos occurring. When they acted like idiots that worried less about if and acted more, while there were times it didn't work for them ultimately they still persevered. They were more or less characters that weren't trying to be smart, and the writing wasn't done to support the idea that they were big brained, they were idiots that had simple goals and were well meaning. When they screwed up, it was evident. When they succeeded, it was evident.
@Nanogerm
2 жыл бұрын
Love all your content (especially the criticisms). Your critique the show because you like it and you want it to be better. Thats the point of critiques. Keep up the great work
@psnfailout000
3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, simply “calling it out” will at best show a sense of self-awareness in the author. I wouldn’t even call it a solution in general.
@anthonydugar282
3 жыл бұрын
4:15 I always wondered was Whitley there, I mean I really like the arc the writers put him through this volume, but did they really expect him to contribute in a really meaningful way
@pumkin610
3 жыл бұрын
What could he possibly do? Die? Do glyphs?
@tweetytang6511
3 жыл бұрын
@@pumkin610 he can probably serve as death fodder to bring Weiss, Willow and Winter together and give them more reasons for revenge but yeah we don’t even know what he can do
@pumkin610
3 жыл бұрын
@@tweetytang6511 he's precious i will protec
@thomasraines1396
3 жыл бұрын
He’s there as a red shirt, if he dies he’s a vehicle for a cheap revenge plot on behalf of Weiss or Winter.
@nickalex4235
3 жыл бұрын
Please No Whitley didnt deserve to die for his cold sisters
@RodimusMinor1987
3 жыл бұрын
The Stupidity of RWBY gives me a headache
@Ch1l1C0nCarnag3
3 жыл бұрын
Writers don't realise a lot of the time that characters are allowed to make stupid decisions in the heat of the moment, especially irrational ones based on emotion. BUT! and this is a big but... they need to be called out on it in-world. Someone who witnesses this NEEDS to bring it up and not just act like it was a perfectly normal thing to do. But often times the writers don't want to do this because it then makes that character look bad, even though that is arguably the point of them making a bad decision, even if it was one they made because they thought it was right or just weren't thinking at all. It humanizes them, they make mistakes.
@Neon-zq5of
2 жыл бұрын
It hurts me, I love Rwby I really do but it hurts how such potential was wasted
@spritemon98
2 жыл бұрын
I fully agree and it's sad..
@icecreamhero2375
3 жыл бұрын
IF you call it out too much that could get irritating. Its best that that is a sometimes thing. Or they could just write better plots.
@VexedViewer
3 жыл бұрын
agreed, like I said they should write something else.
@michaelgalvan9196
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I doubt the writers are going to make everything better because if anything I have no hope for them
@25shadow11
2 жыл бұрын
for real, I really REALLY doubt Jaune could just forget Cinder, the person who took this partner, the one, or rather, first person who made him feel NOT completely worthless. Y'know, the one he was CRYING as he was attacking her? Ruby especially, she's the one who activated her sharingan HSHAHAHAHAH! I'm sorry, l just related the silver eye thing to naruto, that's done to death l know, but l'm just realizing how identical the source of activation of these eye powers are. Digressing, Cinder being forgetton, Penny coming back to just die again, seriously, what was Pennys return even for? So she can just PERMANANTLY die? I feel like they brought her back to just play some emotion card so people can get attached to her, then kill her for big shock and sadness. The Joss Whedon, l like to call it. It feels like the intelligence of the show drops as it goes on. Remember that one vid, "This is basically RWBY"? The part where he said how Neos his favorite character, and "I can't wait to see how they ruin her!" and LO AND BEHOLD, IT'S ALMOST LIKE HE HAD THE PLOT IN HIS OWN HANDS AND WAS FORESHOWING.
@azizkalb8721
2 жыл бұрын
It’s nice to see KH FAN AGREE WITH US EVEN DESPITE THE FACT THAT KH HAS BETTER STORIES THEN RWBY
@25shadow11
2 жыл бұрын
@@azizkalb8721 lt really does. At least no one does utterly dumb things like forgetting vendettas
@25shadow11
2 жыл бұрын
@@azizkalb8721 also, KH Fans RISE
@azizkalb8721
2 жыл бұрын
@@25shadow11 darkness within darkness
@25shadow11
2 жыл бұрын
@@azizkalb8721 at this point, that's where the plot of Rwby is, cause it sure ain't bright.
@DocMicrowave
3 жыл бұрын
LOL, Great video Vex. I was in stitches. One point if I may. Having the characters "call out the stupid" creates the idea that the characters are not as smart or righteous as the writers have built them up to be. goes against the narrative put forth. As this is RWBY, we certainly can't have that in the heroes.
@Sonic171K
3 жыл бұрын
They still won’t call it out.
@juanbogard4022
3 жыл бұрын
2:40 this Is the scene i get More pissed off then i say i Will not watching the last episode - Angry Meme
@ugochukwunzechukwu116
3 жыл бұрын
Watching You correct the mistakes of Rwby writers is just fun and learnable for future writers
@GlokkBabySpazz
2 жыл бұрын
Lmao neo came back from the" one way ticket realm to vacuole"
@alfianfawzi2064
3 жыл бұрын
RWBY's stupid plot decisions are equivalent to that of horror movies, at this point lmao.
@pumkin610
3 жыл бұрын
Hey you right
@thomasraines1396
3 жыл бұрын
At least the stupid decisions in horror movies have the potential to lead to some pretty good kills, RWBY makes stupid plot decisions and nothing comes of it.
@randomcenturion7264
3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasraines1396 True. Hell, the corniness of it even adds to the charm.
@thomasraines1396
3 жыл бұрын
@@randomcenturion7264 exactly.
@alfianfawzi2064
3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasraines1396 The horror movies' selling points are the monsters/slashers and their kills, that's why people could overlook the plot decisions for the most part. However, RWBY's selling points are supposed to be the characters, lore, weapons, abilities, and fight scenes, and the stupid plot decisions ruined that part entirely.
@JMobster9
3 жыл бұрын
Or... You know... Just rewrite the scene to make a bit more sense and avoid the issue all together. 🤨
@VexedViewer
3 жыл бұрын
bingo!
@spritemon98
2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely despise miles and Kerry for wasting all the potential rwby could have!!
@Track_Tension
3 жыл бұрын
Will you be reviewing Gen Lock season 2? (4 November on HBO Max)
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