I got one of these, the 38mm, plexi, the “un-official” version Red Star. Price was £90 delivered included vat and shipping, amazing. Keeps excellent time, beat error is 0.0, amplitude around 300, it actually matches a well serviced 321 Speedmaster so fantastic value.
@WatchesOnWood
2 жыл бұрын
Great watch and a must in an affordable collection. Just a little observation though... you say you dont like copies (homages) and yet, as I'm sure you'll know from your research, this is a homage to the official sea-gull 1963 which can still be bought albeit for more money. Just a thought 😉 Great video and thanks for the content
@Bladeworkssystems
Жыл бұрын
incorrect. This is the Offical. Red Star are the clones.
@louislaw85
8 ай бұрын
This isn't official. The official ones aren't red star, it's the tianjin Sea-gull company
@HoratioChinn
4 ай бұрын
@@Bladeworkssystems The 'official' ones are from Sea-Gull watches and will cost you around $600, not the £130 from these other brands
@Bladeworkssystems
4 ай бұрын
@@HoratioChinn correct. I have a real one.
@SogAbraxas1
3 ай бұрын
All components are made by Sea-Gull with the original Venus tooling and machinery Switzerland bought by the Tianjin Watch Factory aka Sea-Gull and sold to licensed China based watch manufacturers same components found in the earlier Breitling Chronographs.
@johnbell1859
2 жыл бұрын
I have this watch it looks good and keeps good time, you can’t beat the price for what you get. 🇬🇧
@kenfritz9565
4 ай бұрын
Just for your info, I just ordered the 38mm 1963 Seagul for a total of $85.49. Looking forward to getting it! Thanks for your great review!
@occamraiser
2 ай бұрын
Hopefully it won't turn up as one with a quartz movement - like I've seen reviewers complaining about on Ali-express. I'm waiting for my £105 (after tax and duties) 40mm Swan neck Exhibition back non lume model.... which I will check carefully for features and timekeeping when it arrives. Ali-express accuracy when it comes to delivering exactly what was ordered is a little bit.....erm.... variable.
@kenfritz9565
2 ай бұрын
@@occamraiser I'm going to make a loooooonnnnngggg story, very short. It was a disaster. I didn't do my homework on the company I ordered it from. The watch was 42mm, and I ordered 38mm. But it really didn't make any difference because it did not work at all. Didn't run. My bank is still fighting to get a refund after I returned it. I did order another Seagul movement watch from Merkur, a reverse panda, and I received exactly what I ordered. It was delivered early, and it works great! The watch is a real "keeper." It, too, came with an exhibition back. The pushers work great, and I'm very happy with it. It cost a bit more ($140), but the craftsmanship is better, and even the band was good. Lesson learned: find the watch you want, then find the best dealer who sells it.
@Jdinaz
2 жыл бұрын
Andy, Andy, Andy.. you and I have a simple collection and similar tastes. I ordered this exact watch 5 days ago. The only watch on Ali that even halfway appeals to me.. and it’s all about the history.
@donquxiote7653
Жыл бұрын
That isn't an original Sea-Gull watch, it's a copy. What did you say about not liking copies!?
@veganbutcherhackepeter
4 ай бұрын
It uses the original movement.
@Jdinaz
2 жыл бұрын
How is your 1963 holding up?I received mine yesterday. It’s awesome! Mine is running -1 spd. It’s such a wonderful vintage feeling watch. Really strikes me as something right out of the 50s (which it is really). Took it off of the nato and tossed the included toad-leather strap away and put on an olive drab horween vintage strap. Thin, beautiful and elegant. I’m impressed.
@TheEnglishWatch
2 жыл бұрын
It’s doing ok. I’m looking for a better strap for it. I think a longer nato would work, similar colour.
@frank327
2 жыл бұрын
Good review, liking this channel as it's not going for the over the top presentation a lot of the channels are now, but giving all the relevant info and a personal appraisal of the watch being reviews.
@edk2221
2 жыл бұрын
Pre-Watched Comment: Ok, I’m really interested to see what you say because I’ve often thought of getting this fun looking watch
@Audittr2108
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always thought this was a nice looking watch with an interesting movement and for just over £100 for the 38mm, there’s worst ways to spend £100.
@jharris947
2 жыл бұрын
I'm a big Omega fan and a bracelet man but I have to say your Speedmaster looks really good on that leather strap.☺🤩 5:49......Surprised to see how thick it was on your wrist. Looks like a stainless steel curling stone.😜
@occamraiser
2 ай бұрын
10:40 If you're saying that the £300 versions are the same as the £100 Ali-express version I am dubious. It is understood that the ones on Ali-Express are the correct movement but are not assembled by/for Seagull. Whereas genuine Seagull manufactured watches are available for around £350... or so I've read (June/July 2024)
@左子麒
2 ай бұрын
Hi I am Chinese, and it is the same I can tell u😢
@dougdottery1284
Жыл бұрын
Very nice. Retro for sure. I will be buying one.
@Ecoat65
2 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I had this watch in the 38mm. Loved it. But we've since moved to Panama and here the humidity is outrageous, so I sold mine.😔
@jharris947
2 жыл бұрын
Yes they sure found out about the humidity when they built the Panama Canal.😮😮
@George-iy8dd
2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks. I see that your linked site don't have the 38mm version, which might be why they sent you the 40mm. Shame, as I need the 38mm with my very skinny wrists.
@TinBin-Craig
2 жыл бұрын
its a nice watch for the price... and that accuracy is good love it cheers
@jasonhindle4054
2 жыл бұрын
The Belgian dealer I bought the Seagull from supplied it in a cool tin with the red star. I replaced the NATO with a better quality strap.
@TheEnglishWatch
2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure mine is the real deal, but still a very convincing package for the price.
@haping1
2 жыл бұрын
It's definatly on my list, but first I'll enjoy my Hanhart MK1 I just received....
@LWIN729
2 жыл бұрын
This watch is a beauty!!! 👍👍
@paulmeyer5682
2 жыл бұрын
Tolle Uhr zum unglaublich günstigen Preis.
@TheEnglishWatch
2 жыл бұрын
Sure is
@davidcoleman2796
2 жыл бұрын
I want to order one but I really want to get the 38 mm .
@trolazoceja
2 жыл бұрын
saw one of these but in quartz, it should be almost the same right?
@TheEnglishWatch
2 жыл бұрын
The manual wind movement is great for the price and very reliable. It’s one of the few reasons to buy. I’m sure the quartz is nice, but in this instance I’d go mechanical.
@gusseisern1151
2 жыл бұрын
The packaging is Bonkers! Forget patek, AP and all the other sheet
@ivorwatch9788
2 жыл бұрын
I have just ordered the same watch from the same company.....i would be dissappointed if i recieved a 40mm rather than the 38mm i ordered. You could inform them and ask for the 38mm you wanted.
@TheEnglishWatch
2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t have to pay for it, so can’t complain too hard, just making sure you guys are aware of the potential pitfall.
@brorsturenormann6696
2 жыл бұрын
I ordered mine now the 42 mm. Interesting to see it together with mine Omega Racing 44,25 mm
@seanhickling7340
Жыл бұрын
Old video - I know but... That is a seagull movement but it's not a Sea-gull manufactured watch! It's a COPY! 😂
@Bob.martens
2 жыл бұрын
The Chinese on the box says: 'Chinese aviation watch Reissue'. Yours is not a 'real' Seagull-made watch. Seagull only produces the 38mm with acrylic crystal and solid caseback; with two lines of Chinese text on the dial. But even with those specs, you're never sure where or by whom these watches are made unless you buy from Seagull directly. Doesn't matter, they're all lovely. The 38mm acrylic is by far the best though:)
@TheEnglishWatch
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you a much. It’s a shame as I wanted a 38mm.
@phmwu7368
2 жыл бұрын
The June 1963 Vostok-6 spaceflight mission of Valentina Tereshkova had call-sign "Chayka" meaning "Seagull" but she wore a Sthurmanskie 17 jewel pilot watch. #MoonwatchUniverse
@kevcodm23
Ай бұрын
Man i really Like To have one
@a004
Жыл бұрын
AliExpress link? Description has original link but is double the price
@KeyserSoze2013
5 ай бұрын
The ole bait and switch
@KeyserSoze2013
5 ай бұрын
The ole bait and switch
@zynetik
2 жыл бұрын
There's also a choice for a swan-neck movement and lumed hands! Also, you can choose sapphire or acrylic
@PacoElMapache
2 жыл бұрын
Lumed hands? Swan neck movement? Where?
@exid193
Жыл бұрын
@@PacoElMapache Aliexpress
@exid193
Жыл бұрын
@@PacoElMapache amazon as well but ofc it's upcharged
@SuperFlatrock
Жыл бұрын
Do you still have the promo code for Aliexpress?
@TheEnglishWatch
Жыл бұрын
This is the only live referral I have seagull1963.com/product/seagull-1963-38mm-acrylic-sapphire/?ref=oSZOKT3z
@SuperFlatrock
Жыл бұрын
@@TheEnglishWatch I bought the 38mm swan-neck version with a sapphire crystal from the same Aliexpress store that sent you yours. Can't wait for it to arrive.
@munkbok
8 ай бұрын
@@SuperFlatrock me too
@simontan1608
2 жыл бұрын
This movement is not build by Seagull Tianjin factory, is by third parties factory.
@mixodorians12
2 жыл бұрын
If anyone knows how to return one of these to the manufactuer, please let me know. My brother bought one new, and it stopped working after a week. The Ebay seller refused to do anything.
@TheEnglishWatch
2 жыл бұрын
Worth raising a claim with eBay, especially if the seller has a returns policy.
@billnichols4821
2 жыл бұрын
gooseneck ?
@SuperFlatrock
Жыл бұрын
It is worth having the gooseneck movement. It makes getting the best accuracy a DIY job. Otherwise, DIY adjustments are an exercise in frustration.
@zillsburyy1
2 жыл бұрын
made me think it was the indy watch
@cedarcanoe
2 жыл бұрын
It may be a Sea-gull ST19 movement (not at all sure!!) based on the Venus 175 but that surely is a FAKE 1963, sorry to spoil your party
@TheEnglishWatch
2 жыл бұрын
Your guess is as good as mine. It’s a well made, pretty accurate movement. 40mm is probably a large size copy, remake, re-edition. As China flouts copyright regularly, who knows what’s original these days.
@ivorwatch9788
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheEnglishWatch Exactly...they are all 'fakes' at this point.....
@Bob.martens
2 жыл бұрын
A copy of my comment: Yours is not a 'real' Seagull-made watch. Seagull only produces the 38mm with acrylic crystal and solid caseback (impossible to find separately...); also with two lines of Chinese text on the dial. But even with those specs, you're never sure where or by whom these watches are made unless you buy from Seagull directly. Doesn't matter, they're all lovely, and all these copies have a real ST19 movement. it is too cheap at this point to clone even in China The 38mm acrylic is by far the best though:)
@SuperFlatrock
Жыл бұрын
@@Bob.martens The movement is authentic, even if the rest of the watch has some minor differences.
@verykeen2please
2 жыл бұрын
will match with, your lucky cat! Of all my watches this gets the most positive comments from non watch people
@TheEnglishWatch
2 жыл бұрын
That cat came back from Hong Kong with us 20 years ago. It does stand out and is interesting.
@vertugallery7099
2 жыл бұрын
This is a really good-looking chronograph. But we really must be very careful and be sure of what it actually is. This is absolutely not the watch that was supplied to the Chinese military. It is a greatly inferior recent copy. The original watch housed a Swiss Venus movement, the same movement that was used by Breitling and other top Swiss brands back in the mid 20th Century. The Chinese military issue watch was a quality Swiss-made chronograph (Chinese badged for propaganda reasons) and they are rarely found. This one costs $150 for a reason. It is a very cheaply made watch, obviously. It is not possible to produce a quality mechanical chronograph for $150. So what you have is a very cheap and cheaply made mechanical chronograph that looks great but is not built to last. No problem with that as long as you know what you are buying. If you think you are buying an equivalent watch to the vintage Chinese military issue then you need to think again. We need to realise that at $150 this is essentially a disposable watch. Like anything mechanical, it will at some point need to be repaired/serviced. The cost to service the watch would far exceed the price of the watch, by a long way. If you sent it back to Seagull for a service (they won't offer a warranty) it would be cheaper for them (and you) to just send you a new watch. So in many ways, this should really be labeled a disposable mechanical chronograph. The first? I am not sure; but certainly the most talked about. I don't want to spoil anyone fun but I do want you to understand what you are buying. In closing, my view is this: you can spend $150 much worse. It looks great and it will work ok for a time. So buy it and enjoy it, but just keep in mind what I have written above. And please shoot on sight anyone who tells you that this is the watch that was issued to the Chinese military. For serious watches the Chinese buy-in Swiss ;)
@TheEnglishWatch
2 жыл бұрын
It’s a fair point. You never know what you’re buying off these sites, and it’s clear this is very much a homage. Having said that, the movement holds up really well and keeps time impeccably. My son loves it and makes an interesting addition to his collection of G shocks. The open case back and column wheel are great talking points. Definitely worth $150.
@simontan1608
2 жыл бұрын
This movement is not build by Seagull Tianjin factory, just said is a Seagull movement only so people will buy is built by third parties factory. Seagull built quality movement!!
@AutismusPrime69
10 ай бұрын
A cheap chinese copy of a cheap chinese watch
@HansIJpma
2 ай бұрын
@@AutismusPrime69 the original is actually not that cheap if you buy it from the Seagull website. ($569 at the moment) Sure that’s obviously much less than an Omega Speedmaster but it’s enough to have expectations of quality. Unsurprisingly the Seagull website is pretty clear that it regards watches like the one being reviewed here as fake.
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