"about the price of a Commander Anthologies" my arse
@aaron.k.
4 жыл бұрын
I like how this dude thinks. Does he have a KZitem channel?
@MonkeyDToriko
4 жыл бұрын
That's not very pleasant, now is it?
@N64Overclocked
4 жыл бұрын
Reprint fetchlands, you COWARDS!
@oscarremus2083
4 жыл бұрын
PleasantKenobi I keep telling people to not give a shit about the fetches dont ask for them dont buy them. Next step is to ban them as a community and mess with the data at tournaments. We need to send a message to Wizards that you print these lands effectively or we are going to move on and never use them again (effectively killing their reprint equity)
@DeadBuiltLikeGoblinLackey
4 жыл бұрын
You and prof uploaded at almost the same time, I gotta ask if that was intentional?
@hallt13
4 жыл бұрын
This video feels like a “I’m not angry, I’m just disappointed” talk.
@Sturm64
4 жыл бұрын
You gotta cut him some slack man. I feel like a resounding "don't even consider buying this" is probably as harsh as he can be if he wants wizards to take the criticism seriously.
@xileets
4 жыл бұрын
Bahaha!
@evilcharles
4 жыл бұрын
I expect Prof to be PNG by the next 2 sets...
@TheMattmatic
4 жыл бұрын
@@Sturm64 I don't think the original comment was intended to mean the prof wasn't harsh enough in his criticism. It's just different ways to do it. This is the way my mom would do it. And her criticism really stings, man
@CaptBackwards
4 жыл бұрын
Dad: Talks longs slurps of vodka. I'm not angry im just disappointed Me: That feels worse than the belt across my ass
@Cinomod6066
4 жыл бұрын
I just bought a switch with animal crossing for $360 wayyyy better value.
@krim7
4 жыл бұрын
And you still have 40 bucks left over to buy another game (or multiple games if you buy some cheap/on sale ones!)
@Bladius_
4 жыл бұрын
HOW DID YOU GET A SWITCH?! (seriously, since the lockdown I haven't been able to find one that isn't scalped to double the price.)
@zztzgza
4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations, enjoy your 1 island per Switch console. The price of 5 pieces of colored cardboard being more expensive than a game console and a new game is egregious.
@Cinomod6066
4 жыл бұрын
@@Bladius_ I bought a switch lite bundle from gamestop basically the only one I could find that wasn't scalped or at door pickup but they would have to order it on anyway. Came with minecraft not that I really care about that one. A screen protector a case and a memory card I mostly just wanted it so I could play animal crossing tho.
@Cinomod6066
4 жыл бұрын
@@zztzgza yeah I saw that being an issue lol but I'm going to be the only one using this switch so no big deal to me honestly. But thanks I havent played an animal crossing game since the original ds and I loved that game.
@Gwinnmusic
4 жыл бұрын
Wizards: "We don't care about the secondary market" Also Wizards: Using secondary market to value their product.
@captainshiner42
4 жыл бұрын
Holy shit. Hit the nail directly on the head there.
@DD-vi3nu
4 жыл бұрын
Wonderfully said
@philiphunt-bull5817
4 жыл бұрын
_Exactly._
@hitthegoat
4 жыл бұрын
Yup. There was nothing stopping them from printing these in massive quantities and charging $20 per set
@HighLanderPonyYT
4 жыл бұрын
That's especially funny considering that the sole reason the game is still around is because of the secondary market.
@Onattamato
4 жыл бұрын
"They will also be reprinted in an additional product this year" I'm calling it now, Secret Lair Ultimate Edition II, Fetchland Boogaloo. Contains all 10 fetchlands, costs "about" $500, comes with a decorative box inside of a decorative box.
@PinkDevilFish
4 жыл бұрын
But only two per LGS and they will go for two grand by the time a person can buy it.
@nicholasbower17
4 жыл бұрын
See what gets me is they said that Fetchlands themselves would be reprinted later this year. It felt like it left the option that they could do another version of the same secret lair with the Ally fetchlands. And that's the crap that i expect to see.
@nathansmith5738
4 жыл бұрын
no no no no no your thinking too small Secret lair fetchland: mystery edition plain black box of the cheapest cardboard, inside is one randomized fetchland. there are 40 boxes, enough for a playset of each. they will then be auctioned off to the highest bidder, bids starting at $1,000. Is it foil? that's part of the mystery! which card are you bidding on? Also part of the mystery! New art? Mystery! the sad part is I could see them raking in hundreds of thousands of dollars with that stunt.
@Sombres
4 жыл бұрын
Secret Lair Anthologies
@luispolanco5966
4 жыл бұрын
@@nicholasbower17 "for about 400 dollars"
@ErasmusHereticus
4 жыл бұрын
Sol Ring is such a great example of how to handle the reprinting of something that is as staple as staple gets. Countless precons in, and it still hold 'some value', it is NOT a bulk card. I can't go out and buy 50 of them for pennies, I'd be paying significantly more than that. Fetchlands are most definitely in the Sol Ring category, i.e. cards that even if reprinted into the ground will ALWAYS hold some value. They will never be bulk. The fact that Wizards is refusing to reprint them to this extent is flat out anti-consumer, and it is both sad and angering to see.
@kereminde
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, but I think it's interesting to point out - for the first couple times WOTC would reprint the fetchlands in precons or something similar? Those are going to sell out and pretty much only help people scoring off the secondary market. The greed of people flipping MTG singles for profit is just too great.
@Scubasage
4 жыл бұрын
@@kereminde The solution to that is simple. Print the product into the ground, print so much of it that it never gets sold out unless a store doesn't want more to sell. Can't scalp things that are available everywhere at regular prices
@Stroggoii
4 жыл бұрын
@@kereminde One of the first Duel Decks was worth close to $60 and still sold for $20 at Wal Mart six months after release. They underprint on purpose to use scalpers as an excuse not to give us good cards for fair prices. You can't scalp a decent print run.
@kereminde
4 жыл бұрын
@@Stroggoii You can totally scalp a decent print run. Also, I remember those decks, and while they still sold for $20... I couldn't get one. I should clarify. The ones on the shelf had already been "raided" for the money cards - either returned "unopened" with things removed or visibly broken into. This, along with a couple other things WalMart does concerning Magic as a product, is why I won't buy cards there. Target is only marginally better. If there was, in fact, a site similar to "Secret Lair" to buy direct from Wizards for these things at the MSRP? Well, that would be the most helpful to make sure these products don't get screwed over. But that would cut out the middleman (distributors) and as a fine upstanding citizen once said: "Eliminating the middleman, never as simple as it sounds. Fifty percent of the human race is middleman, and they don't take kindly to being eliminated."
@squalltheonly
4 жыл бұрын
Their logic: -sol ring is reprinted every year. It is 1 card. -evolving wilds is reprinted every year. It is 1 card. They think we can be happy with just 1 fetchland in the 99. LOL
@pauldyson8098
4 жыл бұрын
"The key is the reasonable reprint." Put this on a shirt. You know who else feels this way? Richard Garfield, PhD.
@imperialphoenix1229
4 жыл бұрын
Pleasent Kenobi already did put it on a shirt *Reprint fetchlands you cowards*
@pauldyson8098
4 жыл бұрын
@@imperialphoenix1229 Amen!
@moxcube
4 жыл бұрын
Whoever wins the Omaze WotC Headquarters trip needs to wear that shirt there.
@ryandalton-qq
4 жыл бұрын
Prof, It would be awesome if you interviewed the other MTG Prof (Dr. Richard Garfield) at some point if able. It would be awesome for you to interview him and hear his current take and impressions on the modern state of the game, the controversy around its financial cost to play, and design decisions looking back.
@phyrexianagent4655
4 жыл бұрын
@@ryandalton-qq YES
@TehFoamy
4 жыл бұрын
"Nissa + 80s Synth = Vivien" This is the most savage read of all time and I'm loving it
@MsMollieMac
4 жыл бұрын
Vivien is the Thor: Ragnarok of Green planeswalkers
@faerie7dragon
4 жыл бұрын
@@MsMollieMac No wonder I love her so much.
@alchemygavemeligmatitis5129
4 жыл бұрын
I seriously hope no one buys this product other than to review it like this, and that instead they buy the singles they need from their LGS. This is ridiculous. “Just a little over $165” my arse.
@PlasmaTheBlue
4 жыл бұрын
This. Please do this.
@eliluttrell7637
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I was expecting like 250$ max after Wizards' said "a bit more". Hope it fails and they learn. Doubt it but hope all the same.
@peewee130946
4 жыл бұрын
Eli Luttrell wizards doesn’t decide the price the local game stores do
@eliluttrell7637
4 жыл бұрын
@@peewee130946 right, and they also "don't know" the second market exist. Withholding a print on purpose in order to sell a product is artificial inflation of demand similar to what diamond companies do as the main distributors have a Monopoly on the products themselves. Wizards has no competition for printing these cards and therefore set the prices by setting the amount produced. It's really basic economics and after writing all this I'm just now realizing you may have been being sarcastic and in that case, I apologise for the long response.
@HarryBuddhaPalm
4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, they'll probably sell well. There's a lot of very stupid people with a lot of money out there.
@oatmealbro6977
4 жыл бұрын
I love how the phrase, "A bit more than $165" is becoming a meme in the MTG community. 🤣
@LucasAlbelo
4 жыл бұрын
My LGS it's selling 195€ only winning the % like in the other products... they don't want to steal from us. 165 it's the price for them + earning + taxes.
@YGOHermit
3 жыл бұрын
Yea. Imma go play a real game in which women are not boobless trans and reprints dont happen for 10 years+. Cardfight Vanguard. They literally have decent decks with 4x good cards for 3.99
@NeutralGuyDoubleZero
3 жыл бұрын
@@YGOHermit Really really weird detail to lead your point on but you do you I guess lol
@cheezybred
4 жыл бұрын
Remember that time blake said they want to discourage “bad behavior” with their products 🤣
@krim7
4 жыл бұрын
The joke is on the stores. This price gouging will likely be used internally to justify not selling secret lairs in stores.
@SpektralJo
4 жыл бұрын
@@krim7 scg is Sold out the demand seems to be high, even at this price point. This means if any retailer sold it for significantly less they would be bought out immediatly and the product flipped on eBay.
@ethan2670
4 жыл бұрын
@@SpektralJo it's not hard to be sold out when each store gets a max of 10
@johnbunceiii2668
4 жыл бұрын
Having MSRP back would be nice... Keeps the original retailer price in check as well as curtails any gouging that would occur on the secondary market. Of course, limited print run product would likely still get sold through and flipped regardless so seems like a lose-lose situation no matter what.
@centurosproductions8827
4 жыл бұрын
@@krim7 They were already not going to sell Secret Lairs in stores. This feels more of a "see, we can theoretically give you stuff, stop complaining."
@casketbase7750
4 жыл бұрын
Props to Prof for politely and professionally promoting this product when prompted by WOTC. They picked him to be the one who revealed it to the world, and he did so. And now with that video done, I’m glad we get to see him give this ‘product’ the thrashing it deserves.
@atlaswar2425
4 жыл бұрын
Yes!! So true!
@MBarkowski
4 жыл бұрын
Wait, why does he get props for promoting a trash product?
@casketbase7750
4 жыл бұрын
@M B He was paid by WOTC to do so, and abided by the nondisclosure agreement he no doubt signed. Now that the NDA has expired, he (and Pleasant Kenobi) are speaking their minds regarding these products. It’s commendable because he did what he was contacted to do. Now he is doing what he WANTS to do. That takes a lot of professional integrity to hold off and not shoot the messenger who came to him on WOTC’s behalf.
@tuongpham7609
4 жыл бұрын
Every magic the gather players asked the question. Should i sell my kidney for some shiny cardboard? Really?
@wetzombie8491
4 жыл бұрын
It's not shiney tho...
@pongchannel.
4 жыл бұрын
@@wetzombie8491 it looks soooo cool though
@pongchannel.
4 жыл бұрын
@@wetzombie8491 it's overpriced though
@wetzombie8491
4 жыл бұрын
Overpriced isn't the term I would use. Its full of avarice
@AndreJHoward
4 жыл бұрын
And this is why there are now millions of fakes out there.
@vidarthorsby2052
4 жыл бұрын
Vince: "So Evolving Wild is in that sett?" Professor: "No, it says no fetchland reprint." Such good scripts.
@marceline8009
4 жыл бұрын
Nissa + 80's Synth = Vivian Nice.
@pongchannel.
4 жыл бұрын
why is this so expensive
@jaketorbeck
4 жыл бұрын
A very good gag.
@musikjunky311
4 жыл бұрын
@@YawgmothWasRight When I liked this it had 69 likes... nice.
@fifthcanuck1128
4 жыл бұрын
Is he wrong though
@Dorion37
4 жыл бұрын
@@fifthcanuck1128 He is not, though I hate Vivien slightly less than Nissa.
@deerclops8184
4 жыл бұрын
i love how this "no msrp" thing is going so great.
@unixtreme
4 жыл бұрын
Yep I'm saving a lot of money not buying anything, fuck them.
@RiotKurhein
4 жыл бұрын
Somebody in marketing must have thought "people can't complain to us about the price if we don't reveal it".
@bulletmonkey979
4 жыл бұрын
Issue here is that them revealing an msrp would change nothing. Stores would still need to max profits, the incredibly low supply is to blame here. Rasmussen's "a bit more" statement was treated as msrp, same result.
@nickkowalski5209
4 жыл бұрын
@@bulletmonkey979 but that's the point - what was the reason to remove msrp is totally unclear since it's, firstly, Minimal Suggested - it doesn't set the price in stone, and secondly there will be a virtual msrp anyway because we have the Internet now and we can go and search online and compare prices and stores do just that to find out an average market price
@geraldjacobs7824
4 жыл бұрын
"But the product still sold out, and we still made tons of money, so it's a great product. Also, we still have fetchlands in our back pocket to virtually print money whenever we may need it." -wizards
@myhr2320
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@danielshaw8648
4 жыл бұрын
That's the sad truth.
@johnbunceiii2668
4 жыл бұрын
Pretty much :-/
@ReMeDy_TV
4 жыл бұрын
I also have some snake oil I'm selling. Oops, sorry, sold out!... I only had one bottle, but I digress. Sold out!
@Liliputian07
4 жыл бұрын
capitalism!
@TheCommanderTavern
4 жыл бұрын
“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain Unfortunately, your points are too strong and too logical for them to be taken into consideration. It's a shame, since you're probably more passionate about MtG than WotC is at this point. As a game, at least.
@Kool212
4 жыл бұрын
The Commander Tavern Employees of Wotc are probably just trying to keep their jobs by pleasing daddy Hasbro.
@ClashMagique
4 жыл бұрын
The Commander Tavern no one here seems to realize that WOTC, like every other company in the world is only out to get as much money as possible. Of course this is a balancing act. Upset the community too much and you lose players, but more importantly you lose money. They aren’t our friend, their only purpose is to generate wealth.
@ruttokyrpa3472
4 жыл бұрын
Magic community: "Nooo you can't just make the game worse by making half-assed overpriced products" Wizard's of the Coast: "haha money machine go brr"
@Leo-pr7ly
4 жыл бұрын
"customers are humans, not wallets!" - was a great comment made here.
@chloedsmith
4 жыл бұрын
Many Magic: the Gathering players would love a MEANINGFUL fetchland reprint. Cowards!
@timbacus9698
4 жыл бұрын
I found Magic about two years ago at age 56. Never in my life have I seen a company that so consistently fails in fulfilling customer expectations. I've said before, I don't know what metric is used to promote people in there, but competency is not among them. BTW, I'm sort of the whale you speak of. I can afford pretty much any MtG products I wish to buy. I could afford this product if I wanted it, I don't. As a consumer I find it insulting. BTBTW, nice meeting you at Command Fest DC.
@MasterP86
4 жыл бұрын
To be fair wizards became this thing just recently, much because of the hasbro and investor pressure, wizards was pretty good in correcting their mistakes, but these days it's like they make a mistake and make it again,again,again and again
@nathanielreusser5723
4 жыл бұрын
Yugioh is so much worse
@wakkaseta8351
4 жыл бұрын
@@nathanielreusser5723 Indeed it is. That's why I just proxy, and made a small business locally for proxying as a result.
@rb4121
4 жыл бұрын
@@nathanielreusser5723 I actually switched from Yugioh to Magic and it's so much nicer, especially now that I've discovered Commander for myself. Yes, there still are artificially scarce cards that should definitely be reprinted, and some of these are way too good/expensive at the same time, but still, only having to buy one of every card? Staples that easily work across Decks? Hell yes.
@Supermcbrotherpizza
4 жыл бұрын
Professor I just wrote an ethics paper on this whole situation and cited you're last video. Thanks for being great man!
@PdrZnt
4 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but i really need to have a read at that paper. Pretty Please?
@jo_ken
4 жыл бұрын
That sounds like an interesting read
@horaciohernandez2850
4 жыл бұрын
Wait, the Tolarian Academy is an actual academy now?! (jk)
@jaygiemtg7511
4 жыл бұрын
I would also like to read this paper.
@jholopez1993
4 жыл бұрын
I would also love to read this paper. I would love to see everyone on prof's channel mail a paper copy to WOTC.
@shadowbujin
4 жыл бұрын
I feel like the art on Smothering Tithe.
@Rabid_Wombat
4 жыл бұрын
Don't be that guy
@Kattywagon29
4 жыл бұрын
lol
@atlaswar2425
4 жыл бұрын
Oof
@Shyruni
4 жыл бұрын
You can see the disappointment on his face before the video even starts.
@creeorth2505
4 жыл бұрын
"Fetchlands will also see a reprint this year (2020) in an additional product" I honestly heard this during the interview and took it as Wotc saying "Hey were going to make another secret lair latter in the year containing the other 5 fetch lands!"
@phyrexianagent4655
4 жыл бұрын
Yay! Secret Layer Ultimate Edition II or commander precons that have fetches but cost $150.
@firekram
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks kinda what I'm thinking as well
@lucasenraraujo
4 жыл бұрын
Many Magic players ask the question: Should I keep playing MTG: Corporate Greed?
@akam9919
4 жыл бұрын
*Cough**Cough*COVID*Cough**Cough*
@isaiahsmith7123
4 жыл бұрын
Hehehe 😂
@chexmix0101
4 жыл бұрын
Yup left yugioh because of greed. And now with mtg getting more expensive and less players at my lgs not sure how much longer I’ll stay.
@snaypj
4 жыл бұрын
I started playing Magic 3 months ago. This is immediately not looking so good.
@justinem4117
4 жыл бұрын
@@deinemam7115 I agree, I'm a girl who prefers to play EDH/commander, so much more fun and alot more deck building freedom!
@hiebram
4 жыл бұрын
Halfway through: Wow, WotC will never let the Professor reveal anything ever again. By the end: Why doesn't WotC have the Professor on staff as an outside consultant?
@unixtreme
4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure they heard all of this was going to come, it's not like they are ignorant to the facts, they are a successful multinational, they have the talent and the means to find a good consumer friendly way to launch a product. When they fail like this, its not incompetence, its greed, its them knowing this could happen, many people told them, and still taking the risk in order to try to milk us of more money, they are just pushing the product as far as they can. I'm out, been out for a year, I don't want to incentivise these business practices, they can bankrupt for all I care.
@xChikyx
4 жыл бұрын
It's simple, do NOT buy this scam. Force wizards to reprint them at reasonable prices and in a meaningful way.
@asacarmichael9724
4 жыл бұрын
Well if SCG isn't lying and they already sold out, it is too late.
@krim7
4 жыл бұрын
All of the boxes are likely sold already.
@xChikyx
4 жыл бұрын
i can almost guarantee investors (fucking cancer) took most of them to resell at $600
@myhr2320
4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't work that way, sadly. This is a product aimed at whales, and it has sold out, meaning it was financially successful, at least short-term. The Professor's argument is that it is damaging in the long run. As someone that played some Magic twenty years ago, and was tempted to dive back a couple time, the most recent one being with the release of Magic Arena, but ultimately decided to never ever again play because of the absurd costs of some cards, I fully agree with his analysis. Magic is a great game, but it is not THAT great, not for me.
@swiftdragonrider
4 жыл бұрын
@@asacarmichael9724 they had maybe 20-40 no more. thats is so few it dosent matter
@shamen-
4 жыл бұрын
Love how Professor points out a card that is easily a better Whale opportunity for Commander players at the same price point as Ultimate Edition. Sol Ring. Beta Sol-ring, Black-bordered, original art Sol-ring is less than Secret Lair ultimate edition. Heck you've got twenty dollars left over to buy dinner with. At least that stays on the battlefield longer.
@saqvobase4301
4 жыл бұрын
That's some tough math, prof. You never know, the secret lair logo could be made of real 24k gold
@zachsobie1161
4 жыл бұрын
I was laughing my ass off during that montage LMAO
@sobman
4 жыл бұрын
I'm actually pretty convinced that the price per cardboard, including manufacturing and shipping (as sold to stores) is worth more than it's equal in gold. Wizards board room super happy, thanks Hasboro 💚
@Small_Panda
4 жыл бұрын
Dude no it's that sweet box it's like 50 times the amount of cardboard that's why it costs so much.
@lykun8417
4 жыл бұрын
The moment I saw Wizards was getting LGS's involved in this drop, I knew this would happen. They should have sold it direct to consumer online, or at events when those return, or not at all. They can't possibly tell LGS's what to price it at and enforce it. I'm all for supporting LGS's, but not under circumstances like this.
@coreyroberson4550
4 жыл бұрын
Can you really blame the LGS when they only got 3-5 of these? We get 20+ people showing up just for Commander night. That doesn't count the Standard/Modern/Pioneer players on other days (many of whom play multiple formats). When a store has that many regulars, how are they supposed to distribute 3-5 copies of a product that only contains singles, not a playset? If the supply were unlimited and the LGS could sell them to everyone, the price wouldn't go up. But when you can't sell to more than 1-5 of your dozens/hundreds of customers, of course the price will go up. Artificial scarcity jacks up the price, and then anyone selling for the regular price gets bought out by someone who's just going to flip it for the higher price. This is completely the fault of Wizards for strangling the supply line.
@trumpetperson11
4 жыл бұрын
Bro, wizards should be paying you for holding together the community better than themselves. They have no idea how to run a company and satisfy customers, yet somehow a English professor outclasses them in just about every way.
@Terminator550
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, not even Konami has the gumption to sell five valuable Yugioh cards in a box for $300 + to their player base. And that is saying something.
@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303
4 жыл бұрын
No, konami just staggers releases and fiddles with rarities
@VivaLaReverend
4 жыл бұрын
That title is brutal af. It's not even a question of is it worth it. Many Magic the Gathering players know it isn't worth it
@kazuyananahara
4 жыл бұрын
Many magic the gathering players asked the question: Can people who aren't rich get to play premium cards without having to sell their organs? And with premium cards i mean fetchlands, Liliana of the veil, Jace mind sculptor... I mean, i can craft a very tasty deck with the budget that a single copy of those cards would cost me, but even then i would love to try some decks with this kind of cards. Not today, probably not anytime in general. Welp.
@olynxv240
4 жыл бұрын
I played Yugioh, Pokemon, Hearthstone and i can say that magic is the best card game, but but it's a damn shame the price of 5 pieces of cardboard, a lot of people can't spend that kind of money, and we're talking about basic cards in modern. I love this game but i dont go support this company whit these practices, customers aren't wallets, they are people.
@krim7
4 жыл бұрын
But this product is not designed for the masses. It was designed for the whales.
@IMatchoNation
4 жыл бұрын
MtG REALLY isn't that good of a card game anymore.
@GodwynDi
4 жыл бұрын
@@IMatchoNation Still the best one out there. I've tried playing them all just about.
@timothyswindell4924
4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been wanting to start playing MTG but haven’t because I value money too much and this company’s priorities are completely backwards.
@Darkersneasel
4 жыл бұрын
Sure I have a lot of fun with magic. But I also have a lot of fun with pokemon. The fun to price ratio is considerably higher for me in pokemon simply because the game is affordable. This is coming from a salaried person who can afford to play both games but would rather buy other things instead of expensive decks. Having more fun isn't necessarily a better thing if the cost to achieve that fun is 5x-6x that of the other games. The fun better scale linearly and be that much fun. The subjectivity is how much fun does someone have compared to other games. I can say for myself that magic isn't even close to being 2x as fun as pokemon. In my opinion of course.
@Matthhou
4 жыл бұрын
They really are Wizards of the "cost"!!!
@thecompleation8891
4 жыл бұрын
Boy that's just a bit over 165 ain't it.
@Siegorius
4 жыл бұрын
Just a smidge.
@pongchannel.
4 жыл бұрын
how $165 to $400
@blitzkriegdiscord3366
4 жыл бұрын
“We want to sell it for a little over $165”
@hviring7441
4 жыл бұрын
I'm still calculating. Please, no spoilers!
@swirlingtoilets
4 жыл бұрын
Just a hair over, oh just a skosh over 165. The tiniest lil bit over, isn't it?
@Gureiseion
4 жыл бұрын
As amusing as the basic math joke was, the well-assembled analysis that followed showed some real crunching and consideration. Well done, Professor.
@ShadowTaiga
4 жыл бұрын
Wow some stores got 3 they didn't even get a play set of the lands... I remember being mad about this a while ago for $200. At this point I just don't care.
@registereduser
4 жыл бұрын
“So, aside from Channelfireball...” XD
@goldenphoenix527
4 жыл бұрын
Remember when everyone was complaining even when we thought the product would be sold for about $200?
@PedroSantos-sg9gz
4 жыл бұрын
You are a great communicator. Not only do you share your points of view, but you do so in an an exccelent manner. You are clear, concise, reflect back on your message and summarize it very well. You remind me of one of my university professors wich i admired. Thank you!
@VulcanGray
4 жыл бұрын
Hilarious! I love the self deprecating humor you have. And I love your ethical backbone, Prof. You have a lot to teach us about things. Things that aren't math, lol.
@Bush_Striker_of_Towers
4 жыл бұрын
When wizards does reprint the fetchlands, they are going to be in the collectors boosters for Zendikar. Because they need to find someway to continue to justify that worthless product while at the same time not giving the fetchlands the reprint volume they so desperately need.
@Kattywagon29
4 жыл бұрын
Lots of people would buy the hell out of those collectors boosters if fetches were in there.
@Bush_Striker_of_Towers
4 жыл бұрын
@@Kattywagon29 I doubt it. Collectors boosters sold for $220 - $240 and it only comes with 12 packs. This is about the price range for modern masters sets which came with 24 packs. For the most part, card from standard sets don't have as high of a value when compared to modern cards. I could be wrong, but I don't see many people taking the big risk of buying up a whole bunch of collectors booster boxes in hopes of hitting enough value in fetches and bombs in Zendikar to turn a decent profit margin. Maybe if the price was dropped slightly then it may be something to consider; but as of right now, the collectors booster remains to be a bad product.
@Kattywagon29
4 жыл бұрын
@@Bush_Striker_of_Towers I think anyone who is on the fence about whether or not to buy a collectors booster would be more willing to if there was a possibility of fetches in it. Collectors boosters come with mostly standard legal cards that may or may not have a value based on the meta. Fetches will always be high value until they are meaningfully reprinted.
@fomori2
4 жыл бұрын
If WoTC is going to sell these overpriced products you should have to get on a "whale list" to buy them. If people with too much money want to just give it away for cardboard then so be it. The people getting screwed over is the average MTG player that then feels the "need" to have them. They waste far too much of their income percentage on what is a fugazi cash grab from WoTC. They dont deserve a penny of it anymore.
@WarriorFromV4LH4LL4
4 жыл бұрын
The professor means business. Normally his title asks if the product is worth to buy. This time he just straight up destroys the product in the title.
@russzoran
4 жыл бұрын
The analysis regarding Sol Ring was perfect! Great job as always!
@777CrimsonChaos
4 жыл бұрын
“It’s just ‘a little more than Commander Anthology’s MSRP’ Michael! How much could it cost, $235 more?”
@sulaimanhyatt-butt1453
4 жыл бұрын
I just hope that when blake wakes up in the morning he has a hard fall of the bed to start his day everyday. This man needs bad karma to teach him.
@soren1803
4 жыл бұрын
Sulaiman hyatt-butt the man was just the face, no point in blaming the messenger.
@sulaimanhyatt-butt1453
4 жыл бұрын
@@soren1803 well he is the closest thing to blame and he works for them so he should get the hate. Period
@mondzior9
4 жыл бұрын
Finally, strong and direct opinions! I absolutely love it! Thank you for being the voice of the masses, our voice, that is surely heard by Wotc. Great content.
@craigseverance6235
4 жыл бұрын
"All right, let's do it" with a resigned expression. Prof. I felt that.
@fuzzyhell
4 жыл бұрын
This is truly the greatest video you've ever made. Honesty and truth within every second of this video. Nothing like a $150 box!!
@shatondrayauch8606
4 жыл бұрын
Things I took away from this: - Wizards has fell and bumped their head. - Prof's left handed! :D
@shadowmetroid18
4 жыл бұрын
I'm a yugioh player but I enjoy watching MTG content to see how things run differently in other games. As bad as some of our products are, thank god none of our products are this expensive. We recently had a product come out that was basically a 40 dollar competitive starter kit, which included a myriad of cards ranging from staple to... questionable. But each box came with 5 alternate art copies of the "ghost girl" cards, most of which are always relevant and a few of are always needed. You got all of them in holo, plus several other in-demand staple cards for a tenth the asking price. I couldnt imagine a product that coat 400 bucks for 5 cards. Even if that box is really elegant.
@shadowalien40
4 жыл бұрын
How did we go from Expeditions, inventions, and Innovations which created some of the best selling standard environments into Secret Lairs? The equivalent of buying cards from TCGplayer at a higher more fancy price.
@bobdole8830
4 жыл бұрын
fuck secret lair, why didn't they put godpacks in Theros? Oh wait they did in the fucking PREMIUM BOOSTERS that contained roughly 20 mystics per Booster box...
@navertnavert2623
4 жыл бұрын
“Let them play pauper.” -Maro Antoinette
@Patronux
4 жыл бұрын
Navert Navert this is great
@joeykim7259
4 жыл бұрын
You know prof, I'm sending a pattern here. WOTC has a great idea that had some problems in terms of execution, you mention how much you like the idea, and then they do everything that they can to mess it up. Beautiful.
@u1trav10let2
4 жыл бұрын
Prof I love the fact that you helped preview this and will still go after it👍 I mean of course! But you did such a good job on both ends of it!
@0darkhero0
4 жыл бұрын
Top 10 most evil betrayals in anime history. Proud of you prof. You don't let the imperatives of capitalism destroy your ideals.
@ruttokyrpa3472
4 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how wizard's of the coast makes people stop playing the game they make 🤦♂️
@mbras9176
4 жыл бұрын
"Game"? At this point WOTC is trying to turn it into a full collector product instead of a game. Soon they will remove the game from Trading Card Game
@isaacstrong5426
4 жыл бұрын
Hey look at it this way, Wotc has acknowledged the secondary market
@7hardy8
4 жыл бұрын
Isaac Strong not officially so they can still get away with this, and you still have whales buying this product up and trying to resell on the secondary market
@johnbunceiii2668
4 жыл бұрын
Not officially. Of course, its hardly a leap to say that do... But they'll get away with whatever they want to at this point.
@isaacstrong5426
4 жыл бұрын
Ah but if the base price is a disernable markup based off of market price it's like saying selling all your stock because a buddy who works at Enrron warned you, isn't insider trading.
@caliconcertguy2542
4 жыл бұрын
As always you could not present this in a better way. You eloquently laid everything out. With a little comedy thrown in. I do look forward to your videos. Thank you Professor for the work you do. It is appreciated.
@CantoVII
4 жыл бұрын
YES! I have been waiting for this video!!! Roast them, please!
@qui_X
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for keeping this review straight despite them previewing with you. Much respect!
@absentahc3007
4 жыл бұрын
u missed a great chance here to remind about the guy that makes those "luxury" wooden deck boxes... but maybe to compare them with secret lair's box was just kinda ridiculous
@adalon3793
4 жыл бұрын
All players I know think this, but having a youtuber calmly explaining this even though he was the one that showed this product is something that I absolutely love about this channel. Thanks for always helping the community. Subscribed many years ago and I hope many new players do the same.
@PortableOpossum
4 жыл бұрын
I love how blunt and pissed he sounds in this. Yasssss Prof. Shred WotC over this garbage.
@Zaknyfein
4 жыл бұрын
Wow! What a great analysis! Providing a solution to the problem was masterful. I feel embarrassed for the employees at Wizards, they really need you on staff.
@bloodcrusnik7418
4 жыл бұрын
This is me interacting for the algorithm.
@Arlano76
4 жыл бұрын
This is me arguing with you, showing that this video provoke meaningfull debate.
@traugottbauling8100
4 жыл бұрын
This is me furthering interaction for Susan’s algorithm
@SarcazdicKing
4 жыл бұрын
I strongly disagree
@prestonraab6209
4 жыл бұрын
I actually agree. There are many reasons to do so.
@HessianHunter
4 жыл бұрын
Strong disagree! Argument starter! Needlessly harsh language! Big mad! >:(
@peterlewandowski9912
4 жыл бұрын
You’re an unstoppable force for the player. Please keep doing what you’re doing.
@Tybonel13
4 жыл бұрын
I think the other product could be Secret Lair Ultimate: Ally Fetches. I'd hate it but wouldn't be surprised.
@johnsanko4136
4 жыл бұрын
Nissa + 80's Synth = Vivian Never have my feelings towards a character been so succinctly described. Perfect.
@losmiercoles
4 жыл бұрын
My guess what will happen: "look guys, the lgs is shilling you, and that's why, going forward, wotc specialty products will only be sold directly through wotc. It's for your own best".
@Rabid_Wombat
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for keeping your critiques real and unbiased Professor 👍
@tesseygo
4 жыл бұрын
"ABOUT A BIT MORE THAN 165$" Nice move removing msrp wotc, nice move
@azorgalena
4 жыл бұрын
This video is fantastic like all of your videos are, and it always make me happy to see the Red Mars trilogy in the background
@towelociraptor
4 жыл бұрын
I'm calling that fetch lands get a reprint in an "Un" set
@solusaldrain
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah! The set will be called "Unprinted!"
@horaciohernandez2850
4 жыл бұрын
That'd be a nice pull to be fair. Still kind of fucked up, but it'd draw in people to draft it.
@andrian7820
4 жыл бұрын
I see no problem, cards in un-sets that are legal in other formats are printed with black borders (like steamflogger boss), so no problem there.
@Hhhhhh-sz9ud
4 жыл бұрын
I would love that if they printed enough boxes.
@tomharris5649
4 жыл бұрын
The art would hopefully be pretty sweet.
@Dragonborne223
4 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed with your honest review of this given the circumstances of its reveal, thanks Prof!
@DeadBuiltLikeGoblinLackey
4 жыл бұрын
Second! I was waiting for this vid prof!
@caligo7918
4 жыл бұрын
me too
@vanDaalstad
4 жыл бұрын
The fact I can get a limited edition, never to be released again signed playmat of Misty Rainforest by Seb McKinnon for less than the card with his version of the art really says something about these fetchlands
@navertnavert2623
4 жыл бұрын
Professor, I have loved Magic the gathering since I started playing a decade ago. Do you think that the answer might be to come up with a card game of our own? I just can’t see them changing course on their pricing/reprint policy.
@almogdov
4 жыл бұрын
It's really nice that you actually found more relevant things to talk about in the other 15 minutes. The way Wizards avoid reprinting any fetchlands has moved to mind-boggling territory and will soon reach riot in the streets mode. Also, this is why I play Eldrazi Tron.
@ollyplantsoups7674
4 жыл бұрын
This video, if none other, proves pretty definitively that Wizards can't "buy" favorable reviews from the Prof.
@rafaelandresantunez
4 жыл бұрын
They fucket up HARD. This kind of criticism is much needed profesor.
@MysticDojo
4 жыл бұрын
400$ is more than twice over 165, that's not "a bit more" unless you enjoy 140% increase on product boycotts, but hey that's just a bit more
@peewee130946
4 жыл бұрын
Jason Yanes well it’s not wizards fault the local game stores are selling it for way more than 165
@caeles5212
4 жыл бұрын
@@peewee130946 Except it is at it's obvious cash grab on their side and they could simply print more of those (artificial scarcity).
@peewee130946
4 жыл бұрын
Caeles they gave them to the lgs for free lol yeah nice cash grab. Also they said they are reprinting them this wasn’t the reprint
@sulaimanhyatt-butt1453
4 жыл бұрын
@@peewee130946 well no one is gonna be buying these in LGS's anyway with the global pandemic around
@jonathonvargas3476
4 жыл бұрын
jacob blackman Well they got rid of MSRP, which enables price gouging.
@Rxheaven1929
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being precise and eloquent with your critique of WOTC. You are the voice we need right now.
@pheonixreviews8695
4 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early I could still play Oko in almost any format
@152Deadpool
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Professor for keeping true to your support of the players and the community and making constructive and meaningful criticism for our benefit. I was disappointed at your video of WOTC announcing the fetchlands' "reprinting" but you reminded everyone today where you stand on the subject and maybe WOTC learned something from the comprehensible arguments and undeniable truths you presented.
@JustinWedekind
4 жыл бұрын
Mystery booster 2.0 with fetchlands in the set.
@TheRaselking
4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see again Masterpiece/Expedition/Invocation premium cards. That is the best way to share old and new cards in a new form and everyone has that slow chance to get it from booster packs. Man, that feeling to get it like getting Golden Ticket to Willy Wonka's Factory 🙂.
@DarkMagiciansMaster
4 жыл бұрын
This is one of my biggest issues with Magic there are cards that are widely desired and never reprinted to keep them at a premium price for what ever reason. I play a lot of different card games and for a big part of it, I like the other ones a little more because they are more affordable and widely used cards get reprinted quite often to keep their price down. My group has decided just to use proxies for our decks since we don't play in tournaments that much because we can't afford to get all these cards and me personally I've almost quit the game altogether because I get tired of the premium price and atmosphere this game has around it in so many areas.
@shadowmetroid18
4 жыл бұрын
I come from yugioh and things had gotten better for awhile, but Konami has been showing its true colors again lately. The two most dominant decks each had a critical card criminally short printed in the set they came out of, leading to one costing 100 apiece and the other costing 75 apiece. We were in a situation until January where the game was super cheap to play, but banlists and short prints really jacked up the price again.
@KarlRoloff69
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being such a great leader for the community on this. I dont really buy any MTG retail stuff since MM17 and probably wont until they meaningfully print fetchland again
@darbymckilkannoncaid3279
4 жыл бұрын
Many Magic the Gathering Players Ask: Should I just buy counterfeits because that's the only way I'll be able to afford fetchlands at this point
@FelipeASaito
4 жыл бұрын
[Insert Yes meme here]
@DarthTUK
4 жыл бұрын
The closing statement of this review is the single best piece of wisdom anyone has ever spoken. Some execs at Wizards/Hasbro shoud have it tattooed on their forehead so they can see it everytime they look into a mirror. Make the game affordable for the masses and at the same time exclusive for those who can afford it.
@DB13-c1l
4 жыл бұрын
You mean if you get rid of MSRP, gaming outlets will gouge you on price? NOOOO WAAAAAAAAY
@austinmorrissey4988
4 жыл бұрын
Professor, I would watch your hilarious skits all day every day. That math problem calculation was amazing.
@jacfac9969
4 жыл бұрын
When Wizards reprints fetch lands to lower the price and ends up increasing the price
@peewee130946
4 жыл бұрын
Jackson Wald this wasn’t the reprint they are reprinting them in a set
@JustAnotherPest
4 жыл бұрын
When every major store on the secondary market charges more than double the expected price and then watches Wizards catch all the fire.
@alvisrouge8690
4 жыл бұрын
The number of copies is so stupidly low even at 165 $ it wouldn't have made the fetchlands more available on the secondary market for the community. Prices decrease when many copies get printed in affordable products.
@88Clinton
4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate all the work you do prof. Keep up the good work.
@maximumjongs
4 жыл бұрын
WotC: "Fetch lands can't appear in standard because it slows down the game." Also WotC: creates multiple tutor-like cards in every set that search libraries and graveyards
@spooplegeist5260
4 жыл бұрын
WotC: New players in standard won’t understand the complexity of playing with fetch lands. Also WotC: *IKORIA*
@aliceshiki8069
4 жыл бұрын
Ikoria has 10 cards with the following words in it: "Search Library" Out of those, 1 is a land, 4 search for lands and are probably unplayable outside of commander, 1 searches for a copy of itself, 3 cost over 4 mana to cast (with 2 being tri-colored) and 1 is a 2 mana creature that can tutor, but requires sacrificing creatures and spending lots of mana to tutor. None of those will make tutoring near as prevalent as Fetchlands did. Your argument is plain wrong, they don't release many tutors these days. Moreover, Fetchlands also have the very real problem of greatly increasing the consistency of the manabase, making 5 color soup decks a bit too easy to make, which is not what they want in standard.
@spooplegeist5260
4 жыл бұрын
@Alice Shiki My point wasn’t tutors. My point was absurd complexity far beyond fetch lands would ever cause. Idunno, they took all the problems of the 4 color decks (having access to every part of the pie) and just gave it to UG, so... might as well have color soup.
@maximumjongs
4 жыл бұрын
@@aliceshiki8069 Oh, please. there are 63 cards in standard right now that search libraries and 24 that search graveyards. There are overlap, but in terms of time consumption that is even worse. Five color "soup" decks are only slightly worse that three color wedge decks. As if everyone would play a 5 color if given the choice...
@spooplegeist5260
4 жыл бұрын
@Hart Fetches in standard would also be fine if they weren’t in the same environments as lands with dual typings. I don’t think you’d end up with “Jeskai Black” if you were just fetching for basics.
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