ANOTHER NOTE: I’m all for the comments saying “uphold the standards and they deserve it” BUT THEN do you think if Paige Powers gets 660th+ in a workout everyone now ahead of her’s video should also be checked? Because if not then it’s unfair right? I’m sure a few hundred wouldn’t have even video’d and a more wouldn’t have held standards? Just another taking point.
@MrFoxFit22
2 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree that if you’re going to penalize somebody you need to check everyone who might benefit or move up from their penalization. But just because I like an athlete doesn’t mean I will defend them if they clearly didn’t hold standards.
@MrFoxFit22
2 ай бұрын
Whether intentional or not.
@beckjacob
2 ай бұрын
I think the real tragedy is the fact that Crossfit effectively doesn't enforce the standards during the Open, but then really tightens up in the Quarterfinals. The Open is a complete joke and sets the bar for the athletes for the rest of the season. What Crossfit needs to do is start holding the actual standard beginning with the Open. The secondary, and more fundamental problem is, from the moment Crossfit became more about the "race" than the "fitness", the movement standards were doomed to be compromised.
@danbruce8403
2 ай бұрын
Re standards, there always going to have an issue when the movement is not functional, box step ups v box step overs is easier to measure, don’t touch the box with anything other than your feet, both feet need to touch the top of the box. Squat snatches v snatches v ground to overhead - give the standard as locked out overhead hips, knees extended etc, then no issues about hip crease or press outs ( not really ever an issue in CrossFit 😂) think they made a problem for themselves with workout 1. Wonder if anyone was penalised because the rower was less than 5 foot away from their barbell!
@PeteF64
2 ай бұрын
@@beckjacob Standards in the Open (and arguably QFs) are largely down to Affiliates and their coaches. If they choose to let standards slide for the sake of mass participation, that sets the tone.
@mistameanor1
2 ай бұрын
Vellner has some of the best and most consistent movement in all of CrossFit.
@kunfukai
2 ай бұрын
and? Are you saying just because he usually moves correctly he should be pardoned for his no reps at WOD1?
@mistameanor1
2 ай бұрын
@@kunfukai did I say that? I’m not responsible for your knee jerk interpretation of what I said in plain English.
@kunfukai
2 ай бұрын
@@mistameanor1 ah alright, no worries. It is hard to understand why someone would make a comment that it is not pertinent to the point Craig was making.
@markogormley4710
2 ай бұрын
Are you going to make a point or just commend Vellner on his ability to move well and stick to movement standards…
@mistameanor1
2 ай бұрын
@@markogormley4710 that was the point, champ.
@misschanandlerbong2221
2 ай бұрын
I agree, something needs to change. Also if they are going to hold accountable the top 150 to a standard, should they have now to review the top 1000? There are people that moved 600 places, so how about the 500 people before them are they also being reviewed to confirm they did it right? I dont think this is even done.
@brandennall
2 ай бұрын
THIS!! Docking someone placement means that everyone else in the middle between places held need to be held accountable, also.
@dc100dc100
2 ай бұрын
I remember Fraser saying that he would always review the rules and standards to make absolutely sure that he didn’t get penalized.
@gymnastnic
2 ай бұрын
Its not about them "trying to cheat". It's about going too fast and not doing it well.
@robgronkowski947
2 ай бұрын
so then what is your solution while still keeping the integrity of the sport?
@crackasaurus_rox9740
Ай бұрын
Sounds like the solution just happened
@tomcazurb2228
2 ай бұрын
Let’s be clear: there are professional athlete in an unprofessional sport. CrossFit has a lack of professionalism in every aspect: rule/content/ogranisation… It’s what it is !
@Jerzius
2 ай бұрын
100% agree, fact of the matter is that there been no proper guidelines since day 1. If you're going to be strict , then be strict towards all. Nice to see someone comment this! Up you go!!
@SuperDan1006
2 ай бұрын
This is so true. It’s palpable every year.
@justine6794
2 ай бұрын
To me it looks like athletes didn't read through the standards well enough - it seems that the head down, shoulders forward caused a lot of penalties on the box step ups. As much as it sucks that high level athletes get penalised, CrossFit is adhering to the standard that they put in place for the system that we have right now which is QF and is doing what everyone complained they didnt do before (eg. adhering to the standards) . Yes, I would prefer sanctionals or a different system in the future but this is what the system is right now and hopefully this is a lesson learnt for athletes that riding the line is risky
@danieljw1985
2 ай бұрын
This is right on point buuuuut, if the people ahead of say, Paige powers don't get their videos reviewed etc then how is it fair? They could all be reviewed and be subject to the exact same penalties and Paige would be right back where she started before they penalized her.
@justine6794
2 ай бұрын
@@danieljw1985 Do we know for sure that not at least everyone in the top 40, even if they moved up after scoring adjustments get reviewed as well? If they do and she is still out afterwards the top 40 are legit. I havent heard either or the other for sure, only assumptions from peoole
@Pepesilvia267
2 ай бұрын
I looked at the box step up on the CrossFit website and no where did I see it mention head or shoulder position but only knees and hips. If it’s not explicit then it shouldn’t be a rule. Unspoken rules are dumb. Unless they have head position listed and I didn’t see it. Anyone have a link?
@dawnc5797
2 ай бұрын
@@Pepesilvia267 I just looked it up for the workout specific to this QF and I saw nothing that says anything about head position. There are pictures of the movement and the woman is looking straight ahead in all 3 photos but there is nothing in writing about head position. And when has anyone ever not looked down when doing this movement? It's sketchy as heck to demand this now without anything said prior to the workout like, "hey this is what we are looking for specifically in this movement from here on out."
@MikeHalpin
2 ай бұрын
Legend! Thanks for the shoutout and using my reports!
@avera9636
2 ай бұрын
There is a difference between 'trying to cheat' and not meeting a standard
@kunfukai
2 ай бұрын
no there's not. A no rep is a no rep.
@allanfarr
2 ай бұрын
@@kunfukaiobviously there is a difference in intent.
@kunfukai
2 ай бұрын
@@allanfarr intent doesn't matter either you did the rep properly or you didn't.
@gonzalomartinlupi7833
2 ай бұрын
I wish the videos could get back to be a little bit more serious... I just feel its 90% memes and jokes and 10% actual news. Either way, thanks for the effort!
@Phil.Ritchie_
2 ай бұрын
You got this out quickly! Awesome thank you.
@MykindofDemon
2 ай бұрын
It’s not so much the cheating, but that athletes got super comfortable with lax standards. Not reaching full extension, not hitting depth, not locking out. Coaches need to step their game up and drill fundamentals back into their athlete’s program.
@orbbb24
2 ай бұрын
Getting comfortable with lax standards would also be CF fault. If they didn't want to promote speed at the cost of perfect standards, they shouldn't have done it for years. The sport needs to decide what it wants to be and stay there. The same movement can have 2 different standards based on the year it was performed. It's a joke.
@Pepesilvia267
2 ай бұрын
One issue is the brain shuts down, hence why counting to 5 is even hard in a hard workout. You may know what the standard is as an athlete but when the brain shuts down you stop paying attention to all the fine points. This is why you need a judge. But the judge has to know what the reviewers are looking at. Would make total sense for HQ to have a live conference call that every judge could hop on where they’d cover the exact things to watch in the workout. Yes the judges should already know but it’s clear there is a breakdown.
@MykindofDemon
2 ай бұрын
@@Pepesilvia267 that’s on the judges to hold athletes accountable, and also on coaches to (again) drill fundamentals regardless of how fatigued the athletes are.
@Leecaldwell84
2 ай бұрын
There are some high profile athletes and coaches not judging these athletes correctly and therefore it's unfair to those athletes who are moving correctly and meeting the standards which come with all the qualifier workouts. In the recent Buttery Bros video Jeffrey Adler was no repped twice in a row because he jumped off the box rather than stepping off, which may have been missed or counted by others. Crossfit has brought this upon themselves when they have allowed this happen in competition in the past, so I guess they are starting to change the way they judge and being held accountable by the community who watch these videos too.
@christytaylor6395
2 ай бұрын
Those athletes weren't judged by their coaches. They brought in the judges used by CF at the Games to judge them. It's a matter of a Games judge vs online judge who can slow down videos & rewatch.
@roxastopher
2 ай бұрын
getting up and walking around with the mic breaking character from the "news roundup" format was the icing on the cake to the point. it's frustrating Crossfit The Sport™ still cannot figure this out!
@Livingthedoclife
2 ай бұрын
Strict standards or not, the optics that the lay public are seeing in the CrossFit space from these changes are likely why lifespan of the sport of CrossFit is in question!
@julian.km85
2 ай бұрын
I'm absolutely with you. We need in person competition.
@brentbarlow1598
2 ай бұрын
I think there needs to be more consideration in the programing. We assume most of the issues with workout 1 are the box step up... if they programmed step overs, it's pretty much a non issue. IMO
@rileymckenna2184
2 ай бұрын
Definitely an effect from Andrew Hiller’s push for stronger standards. I’m all for having a clear standard that people need to uphold but ruining a professional athlete’s season over reps that are 98% accurate when they are trying to race is to the excess and sad to see.
@KalispellBarbell
2 ай бұрын
Nah, this is the bed Hiller and his fans made. What did you want? Standards are standards I thought.
@Floppshot
2 ай бұрын
A bit of a wake up for the athletes. I do agree there is a fine line, but it’s nice to see CFHQ gets its head out of its arse and finally do something positive.
@kunfukai
2 ай бұрын
100%
@caseyfoote7911
2 ай бұрын
I agree, I think that, in most cases, this has more to do with the subjectivity of the standards than it does the athletes. Paige Powers is a prime example. I’m assuming she did her workouts at Mayhem, and if so, Mayhem uses Games judges for their athletes. I would hope that a Games level judge would know movement standards and would have no repped her if she wasn’t meeting those standards.
@christytaylor6395
2 ай бұрын
She did have a professional judge
@TheSavageAttack
2 ай бұрын
Makes them a lot of money to do it online and invite the 25%. But agree the video submission is so difficult to judge. Maybe top 10% go to sanctionals and the other 15% do online to try and join them? That way CF still make their money
@AdamS447
2 ай бұрын
Standards are standards yes they have judges but at the end of the day athletes are responsible for upholding their movements
@Buecherwurmify
2 ай бұрын
And if you don't penalize the ones not upholding the standard, you penalize the ones that do.
@TysonBowman
2 ай бұрын
Lol Crossfit Games refs were watching these athletes and didn't do it correctly lol
@themeparkdaddy7550
2 ай бұрын
me: turns to my right to tell my dog how much i love her
@n_mad
2 ай бұрын
A change for sure needs to happen. Until this happens though, the athletes and their teams should really scrutinise their videos before submitting them. Gotta feel for the athletes like Paige who are significantly affected.
@tomaszstawowski9348
2 ай бұрын
Love your videos - keep them coming!!!
@viktorhelgason8641
2 ай бұрын
I appreciate the rant. There are inconsistencies everywhere. I would love to know what they were looking for in workout 1 to drop people like rocks
@jennieclaassen5340
2 ай бұрын
Agree, Boss! Regards from rugby world champions .....South Africa - Springboks!
@fitgearhunter
2 ай бұрын
I know this video has been out for a little bit but just have to say I totally and completely agree with your points. And fundamentally I think it's a major shame and affects how I feel about CrossFit on the Sport/Games side on the whole because now we know for a fact that the fittest in the world aren't all gonna be there, and that slightly derails the whole concept/idea for me
@Myfirstflight42
Ай бұрын
Strongly agree with this, and changes should be made this year, because like you said it's people lives, livelihoods
@skip2malou88
2 ай бұрын
Finally Crossfit is being strict i guess.
@DevHazy
2 ай бұрын
I guess lol
@JPats36
2 ай бұрын
Love this video! Your spot on about what happened to so many great athletes on same event. Cmon crossfit needs to fix this.
@y_o_s_h_i_e6342
2 ай бұрын
Bring back sanctionals! Gives us something to tune into year round and keeps the spectators engaged
@lifeaccelerator
2 ай бұрын
"The system (CrossFit) is still a little bit broken" - understatement of the year! It's a lot different when a judge can tell you during the actual event that you need to change your movement verses just deducting many reps after the event is over.
@VanVeenTraining
2 ай бұрын
Great video! Love it! 2 Thoughts: 1) when brands, sponsorships i.e. money gets involved, it becomes a really difficult and layered discussion. My opinion: the standard is the standard. 2) How "just / fair" is the standard when looking at what The Crossfit Games want to test? E.g. Does the head really need to be in line with the shoulders, hip, knees and ankles on top of a box step up? Does that really contribute to the test of (elite) fitness? In my humble opinion, that's the feedback that The Crossfit Games Team needs to take away from this, the question: "what standards do we need to impose for "assessing" elite fitness?" AND, to answer my own question: No. From a physics point of view: the head not being aligned with the other joints does NOT significantly contribute to doing work (force over distance) nor expressing power (which is work done i a certain amount of time). It doesn't significantly influence the body' s centre of gravity and doesn't influence the max displacement of the dumbells. Shoulders, hip and knees aligned, locked out knees and a straight back. That could be a suggestion for a standard.
@holmseytom
2 ай бұрын
Best Happiness vibes on KZitem. Facts
@PoPluto
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for a very balanced assessment, there should definitely be some games spots for recognized in-person competitions. Online competition is simply not the same and it doesn’t seem to be a fair process.
@jdbaiocco1
2 ай бұрын
The new clothes you have created are much better (IMO) than previous stuff. Cleaner, more basic, subtle branding. Looks good. I am buying.
@wesmurphy4742
2 ай бұрын
I agree about the problems for sure... but issues with officiating? sounds like a major sport to me.
@LeanNotAaron
2 ай бұрын
100 , Craig you are passionate about Crossfit and people who are passionate about what they do, do it the best. that being said You need to be on the board for Crossfit. You could do so much good there, Please think about it.
@hunterklemz781
2 ай бұрын
I am for it. I want to see CrossFit done beautifully. It’s harder when you don’t no rep. Shouldn’t get 2 points in basketball for hitting the rim.
@jtbokc
2 ай бұрын
I’m not sure how this would work, but it’d be really fun for CrossFit (as a sport) to develop some type of “fitness league”. Athletes would compete in seasons, tournaments, etc. again, I have no clue logistically how that would work, but still a really cool concept. That way all the standards would be judged live, so variation from one judge to the next would be limited because you’d have “league judges” where that’s their job.
@Ryan125y
Ай бұрын
CrossFit needs to only use clear and easy to judge movements. A wallball either hits it's target or it doesn't
@ghiztennis
2 ай бұрын
I mean it’s shocking to see that professional athletes don’t ensure they do the movements according to the standards! They should know better! So don’t feel sorry for anyone! Make sure there is no doubt going a bit slower 5 less reps better than getting penalised and not qualifying at all!
@jorgeolimpia81
2 ай бұрын
Hey Craig! You do Olympic weight lifting and you know how difficult it is to follow the snatch and clean and jerk standards. If it's not OK, it's a no lift. So the same applies to CrossFit and should be applied to any professional sport or fitness category. On the other hand, online qualifications like this must be triple checked by the top CrossFit athletes. They're not special, otherwise they wouldn't need to participate in the Open, Quarter, or Semi finals.
@startblock6835
2 ай бұрын
The problem is that the crossfit season (from open until games) is far too long. Athletes cannot be at their best all year around, aswell as injury free... injuries is part of the training and takes lots of time from the season, but can be handled in another way if they had got time during the year to take it seriously!! This is tye way to go Crossfit!🙌🏼🤞🏼
@toomuch9762
2 ай бұрын
You’re right the top athletes with their big sponsorships should be judged differently and only call out the nobodies. Kinda like how it is with the doping. 🙄. The irony of this video being about what’s wrong with CrossFit 😅😅😅
@chefjpcharpentier4847
2 ай бұрын
In Local competition judges are here to make sure you follow standard and if you don't they no rep you! In the CrossFit open/Quarterfinal are judges there to only count the reps? Why doing the course if judges don't know standard as well.
@Bhebert03
2 ай бұрын
Spot on. 100% agree, legend!
@Steevinz
2 ай бұрын
the cat sound is exactly the same as the sounds my cat makes and it throws me off every time
@mistameanor1
2 ай бұрын
Hey. Go do as many DB box step ups as fast as you can with 70/100 pounds but don’t look down at the box. Insane.
@smitty53321
2 ай бұрын
Thank you for fixing the rope on your hat, I don't know if I could have done a whole video of that haha
@mikefox.1
2 ай бұрын
I think there’s enough chances for the movement standards to be checked and upheld no matter the work out, how many other athletes didn’t get penalised because they did the right movement standard. I watched a bit of quarters work outs on sevans channel and most people still had a day or 2 for redo’s. I also watched gabi migala’s video of hers and she took the time to watch her video back to check her movements and redid because she thought she might get penalties 👏 I think with the quality of the athletes, the people judging and being able to watch their videos back to check again before submitting there enough chances to avoid this. Realistically not all videos can be checked but anyone in a qualifying spot should be checked and if it means doing extras because people have dropped than so be it.
@thinbluelinemustang372
2 ай бұрын
Agree 100%. Especially with a ranked athlete.
@emanuelhartt
2 ай бұрын
The in person competition already exist, its the semifinals, if you dont do the workout the right way you will be penalised. I think a lot of atletes have the hability and are the best to perform good in the games, but the rules are the rules. In weightlifting recently, we had Rahmat missing from the Olympics, and he is a great athlete who possibly has some world record breaking potential in the future... Unfortunately, athletes will have to wait until next year.
@kc6031
2 ай бұрын
If these workouts are so difficult to complete “to the standard” online, then they should be IN PERSON with highly vetted judges.
@kanawhavalleychurch
2 ай бұрын
CFHQ & AFV (the judges?) need to sync up so if an AFV judges your workout you don’t need video review. If an athlete gets called out live they can correct the movement. After it is submitted they can’t do anything.
@tattooedyogi
2 ай бұрын
Another way to do it would be to have the athletes that beleive/think they can make the semi finals submit video evidence and pay for it to be evaluated, if you don't do this then you cannot move to the next stage (ie semi finals). This increased cost (don't know how much, $20 or something, or just increase the cost of doing QF's) so that CFHQ can actually pay judges to verify the videos (from what i'm aware of they don't do this, the people who verify the vides are not paid for the most part). It takes a lot of resources to go through the video's and make sure standards are being met. If an athlete then has to pay to make sure their movement standards are good, they're more likely to make them good. And lets be honest that pool of athletes isn't that big!
@mariegentzmann6442
2 ай бұрын
Love your channel, funny an informative. Please make a hstl made "to go Coffee Cup". I would buy it immediatel....and you could save some plastic ;)
@lmanderson2012
2 ай бұрын
This reminds me of the lock out issue in oly weightlifting. Too many have been penalized for a "press out" when it was just an elbow tremor. These are athletes at the top of their game jerking a ridiculously massive weight overhead. It's wild and makes little sense.
@amandadowning7708
2 ай бұрын
I think it is a much needed change and perhaps athletes and coaches will start scrutinizing their videos more before submitting them on the assumption that name value will get them through. Maybe we are finally passed the days of "we know he or she has the capacity" for the darlings of the sport, to holding them to the same standard of the lesser known athletes. Yes it sucks for those who have been cut, but it is the athletes responsibility to know and understand the standards.
@rodrigoperezsalmeron8264
2 ай бұрын
In my opinion, there should be only one qualifier online event... Yes the OPEN. The less online qualifier events, the fair the sport will be, its my point. The open is a great chance for everybody to try something the havent try so far, but the ones who want to go further, and have a competition goal, the qualifiers must be in real life.
@rein3605
2 ай бұрын
The thing is rules are rules. But its weird that someone who doesnt film their workout only a judge is ending on top because they cant check is.
@maretteboyle2549
2 ай бұрын
Agree to some extent... The athletes need to be held accountable to the standards and have some integrity in their movement. I think about it like this... Could you imagine an MLB Player in the playoffs, cutting off the corner at 3rd base, but still getting a home run and getting to play in the World Series? And then someone saying "but they could have touched it"... Absolutely not. The error is in the qualification process, judging standards and athlete accountability. The leaderboard shakeup while sucks for some athletes, is inevitably going to be part of the process of Professionalizing CrossFit.
@thepolyglotprogrammer
2 ай бұрын
I remember attending the Invictus Camp about 5 years ago with several Games athletes like Lauren Fisher and Sam Dancer. And CJ specifically saying that he instructed the athletes to execute the reps right on the edge limit of a no rep at competitions and qualifiers. Anything else is a waste of energy.
@CyraNoavek
2 ай бұрын
Brings the idea of competitive CrossFit into disrepute. But really similar frankly at the lower levels like a bad judge can really mess up your open effort. Not everyone is really up to evaluating and counting movements to a standard.
@Jabz1325
2 ай бұрын
This falls on the AFJ judge that mayhem had in person to judge Paige's workout. If the judge doesn't uphold the standard its a judge issue not an athlete issue. Yes the athletes should know the standard but athletes also go off the judge that is judging them. I doubt Paige would have just kept going if the judge was no-repping her. And like Hiller said, a box step-over would eliminate all of the standard issues everyone had across the board with that event.
@obitonye
2 ай бұрын
Speaking of Paige Powers you should bring up her video of 1st workout.
@jessm96297
2 ай бұрын
I don’t think anyone’s saying they are ‘trying to cheat’ just that they didn’t read the standards thoroughly
@obitonye
2 ай бұрын
this!
@georgemt
2 ай бұрын
i think hyrox is getting more and more appealing to crossfiters every day , as is not as rep or not rep , its cals and runs , and the burpee and lunges part
@Pepesilvia267
2 ай бұрын
I get that each workout tests a different area of fitness but it should be like college where you can drop your lowest test 😀😀
@deeks6650
2 ай бұрын
Fraser read everything front to back twice to ensure no issues. Do they normally do box step ups like that in a general workout or did they change their movement because of trying to win….. I get the judges issue as well but as the athlete especially at that level read everything and leave no doubt.
@elusivebutsatisfyingt.9166
2 ай бұрын
"We nearly lost Pat Vellner" doesn't even phase me anymore because we love Patty. But my man is THE BEST at keeping your heart rate up during events.😀
@RamAlambaDingDong
2 ай бұрын
i guess everyone gets a trophy in Crossfit
@MrBuckNasty_2911
2 ай бұрын
I stopped competing in CrossFit once they started the online stuff. Glad to see nothing has changed and now the truth is coming out.
@lifeoflee14
2 ай бұрын
I think it was for athletes looking at the box instead of looking ahead something crazy like that.
@CruJones81
2 ай бұрын
If an athlete makes the games they should automatically get invited to semifinals the following year.
@andrewdorsett6663
2 ай бұрын
More individual competitions, create a league table, have cross league comps, annual champ comp where top X number of athletes from each league attend and compete for the title of overall world champ. Just like any other sport!
@tobin87
2 ай бұрын
It's time to do in person competitions and award points for winning them. Think a little like the world golf rankings. There may be no perfect system but at least this judges athletes based on the events they've done in the year and how they've scored. This means that one bad performance won't undermine their other event wins in the rankings
@francesbayly8881
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for making this video! It’s very disappointing to me that this is happening. 😢 I want to believe CF HQ has the best intentions, but this does not help.
@verdipwnz
2 ай бұрын
I like that short video. Yes I am from the party "Uphold the standards" but as you also said, they are going to ride a line. At some point riding a line causes you to fall of the wrong side of it. Meaning now they did "overdo" it. Same in the open and the deadlift where the deadlift was no even remotely close to a lock out. So basically yes online qualifications should be punished. I am said for Paige Powers but in every professional sport, where you have to take part at a qualification period it could happen that you may not qualifiy even tough you are strong/ fit enough to be top 10. It could be that you miss a turn, DQ due to a mis step etc. That is the risk of their jobs. But also riding a line and actually drawing this said line on their own is not the right way. Crossfit should draw the line and the athletes should ride ith not the other way around. Sanctionals - Yes. More offline events - yes - better quality live streams? yes!
@tvraven
2 ай бұрын
I don’t think I’ve ever been soo early
@77hoolie
2 ай бұрын
CrossFit can’t say they have found the fittest on earth anymore.
@soc8581
2 ай бұрын
If they are altering scores lower based on videos, then they NEED to look at every video and alter them the same way. If they aren't reviewing the 600+ people that are now ahead of Paige in workout 1, then her altered placement isn't legit
@jacobellis9419
2 ай бұрын
I love the online competitions and also feel bad for Paige. Finding the fittest is complicated. I'd love a solution that makes both happen.
@TheScullmeister
2 ай бұрын
It has effected a friend who is consistently a top athlete in Oceania region. He as 7th and has since been pushed down to 73rd. All above him know he would blitz the field and rightly be 7th. Thor Hajnal deserves to be going to Regionals.
@evanlucagray
2 ай бұрын
I was kinda baffled to learn that there was no alternative way for athletes to make it to the games. This is my first year paying attention to it and I always just assumed that there were qualifying events the top athletes could do through the year, to secure a spot in quarters or even semis... hell, if you win the games, I feel like you should immediately qualify for the next year A system like bodybuilding has for getting to the Olympia should be implemented, cause that also keeps the interest going through the year. Having multiple games qualifiers to follow and watch your favorite athletes battle it out through the year would be amazing! Of course, figuring out how to make that work with the open is gonna take some work but I think it would be good for the sport and good for the top athletes, while still leaving the open available for the community
@natemillard5780
2 ай бұрын
A big black eye for CrossFit! 🤦🏼♂️
@justinwright3099
2 ай бұрын
James Hobart’s score even got nuked…
@paulcapirchio4378
2 ай бұрын
Craig, you are absolutely correct. When you place a ridiculous set of standards on a simple movement and then ask people to race it’s hard to stay focused. Elite CrossFit athletes are not accustomed to stepping down from a box jump or burpee box jump. I watched Jeff Adler and under fatigue near the end of his event he just forgot to step down and he was no repped. As long as the athlete stands up on the box for a box jump or touches with 2 feet on a box jump over it shouldn’t matter how they got up or down from the box. This is what happens when you ask people to go hard and fast and then make it complicated, it just doesn’t work.
@michaelficarro2591
2 ай бұрын
It's not a ridiculous set of standards though. It's kind of like the difference between a uniform and a dress code, you have a uniform or you have nothing.......
@paulcapirchio4378
2 ай бұрын
@@Thorsdaughter007 I’m not say there should not be movement standards or that we should encourage bad form on a variety of lifts. What I am saying is a simple movement such as the burpee box jump; do a burpee then jump on the box then get off the box should not have added rules. If athletes choose to step down or jump down it should be their choice. It’s like telling a foot ball player that he has to run around someone trying to tackle them rather than jumping over if they are able. You’re example of gymnastics is one that is not timed and precision is the end goal, the CrossFit games is about how strong you are and your level of conditioning. Watch Olympic weightlifting, when those weights get heavy the form breaks down a little. My humble opinion.
@magacornpopcorn5915
2 ай бұрын
crossfit could easily fix this with regional or even by state ( in U.S.) qualifiers that take you to Crossfit Prelims which would proceed the games, Mass qualifications worked in the beginning to popularize the Games , well time to grow up and be a big boy sport. Have stages of qualifications, mini games I guess, that keeps the community involved as a whole, but elevates the best. Have STANDARD workouts, not the constant changing of events, save that for the national qualifiers and the games... Bob
@Ausfreddy1
2 ай бұрын
I wish you discussed why she was penalised. It would make your case clearer. At the moment it feels like you’re backing an athlete who has not done the right thing. I judge in Aus. It astounds me how many athletes don’t know what the workout details are before competing and expect a judge to guide them through.
@yochoncho8106
2 ай бұрын
Uncle pat for president!!!
@Kettlepip
2 ай бұрын
What do I think? I think you need more stock of that snazzy green shirt.
@alexskillen9094
2 ай бұрын
Yes, professionalise the professionals.
@jorgeramos9027
2 ай бұрын
There's no problem in the scores or something like, it's more like judges are less afraid of truly judge elite athletes with well know names and are getting their respect and credibility back. I've been judging WZA and seen few things that being more strict about the movement standards some scores could be really different. Example Strict Pull Ups workout on WZA
@christianridenhour
2 ай бұрын
You’re a legend
@markogormley4710
2 ай бұрын
Craig. They know the standards and people have got away with it for too long. You say “This is people’s job” - you’re right, it’s their job; this should prompt them to pay even closer attention to the fine details. It’s every participant’s responsibility to stick to the movement standards. They’ve a chance to review their video before submitting, they’re given detailed workout descriptions and movement standards info - they should review, in good time, to allow a repeat if needed.
@Jana_14320
2 ай бұрын
Or they need to have live quarterfinals, by region not in ppls affiliates. I know it’s probably very expensive to host them all over the world but it can stop all of this unknown.
@joshsavage8620
2 ай бұрын
Hold the standard, no exceptions for elite athletes trying to go “fast”. I would also agree that every video should be reviewed that has an impact, maybe page goes back up if ladies in front of her new score messed up. But the entire video concept is bound for error. Quarterfinals should turn into a regionals event over a week that just pushes thousands of athletes through. No heats, just have them knockout their workouts at the event. So they know if they get no reps.
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