S o n u s F a b e r .. sounded SO much better, detailed and not HF exagerated.. Deeper low end but not sloppy. Absolutely stunning. Love SF. !
@TechnicalPie
3 жыл бұрын
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@cdimi13
4 жыл бұрын
I am a Sonus Faber fanboy but the Gryphon Audio is getting my respect with every session.
@TechnicalPie
4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you!
@veteq101
4 жыл бұрын
Love the choices of music, impossible to tell which one I would prefer over youtube.
@Rascallucci
3 жыл бұрын
Without a doubt Sonus Faber. They just have a way of dealing with music. They use a silk dome tweeter across all their speakers, so you already know it is a more rounded sound that is not going to be overly transparent, clinical or analytical. Sonus Faber will always give you a slightly warmer sound, but more importantly it is a more musical presentation delivered to you in the most organic fashion if you will. Bottom line is this, it just makes you want to keep listening to it, spending time with it in cementing that more intimate bond with your system. The Gryphon amplification is hard to beat and it suits the Sonus Faber. Others may include Dan D'Agostino and McIntosh.
@scaf_007vs3
Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the Il Cremonese ex3me, which does NOT use a soft dome tweeter, among a few others, past or present. Just trying to stay, dare I say, transparent.. 😉
@connorduke4619
3 жыл бұрын
Very nice! I always had a soft spot for budget audio.
@hi-fihaven2257
4 жыл бұрын
Great production work on the video! The sound is wonderful in my headphones. Very detailed, awesome clarity. I really enjoyed the music. I paused the video, and switched to my main listening system. Listened to it via my Emotiva T1+ speakers, hooked up to my Parasound Halo P3, and A23. The sound was incredible, would have loved to hear it in that room! Have a great day!
@TechnicalPie
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you my friend! What do you like more? SF or GAD? :)
@hi-fihaven2257
4 жыл бұрын
@@TechnicalPie I really like the GAD.
@Bunno1177
3 жыл бұрын
Wait til you get some speakers deserving of the Parasound gear you have :)
@williammorales8204
4 жыл бұрын
Thats the thing when comparing speakers in the same level, it's becomes a matter of taste.
@donaldbryant5295
4 жыл бұрын
I don't think they are at the same SPL
@Iam-mad
2 жыл бұрын
The orchestra on these Gryphons was practically without body, just shrill and boom. The SF sound very realistic, the other more like electronic beep.
@tubemenow2007
4 жыл бұрын
Sonus Faber wins. If I may suggest to play the same music at the same place in the music for your testing. The Sonus faber has more warmth, depth and soundstage openness. The vocals sound natural and full sound. To me the Gryphon are to harsh and the vocals sound hollow.
@TechnicalPie
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you)
@4444999955555555
3 жыл бұрын
This is what I was thinking, too. What would be wonderful would be playing the SF and Gryphon's back-to-back in true A/B style with the same track. Track 1: Gryphon, then SF. Track 2: Gryphon, then SF, etc ... That aside, Technical Pie's videos and demos are world-class and much appreciated!
@bobbykingma4109
4 жыл бұрын
I work in audio over 21 years of time. I have done thousands of tests. Also many with cables. I can hear the limitation of the Slisstech cables. You need to remove them as fast as possible. They are not linear, but they use an emphasis on a certain freq. range. I own a Gryphon Antilion Signature of late 2012.
@bbf8411
4 жыл бұрын
Various type of tests are very good.
@jdiggadydog
4 жыл бұрын
Fair comparison. Favoring the midrange on the Faber's. I love Gryphon, glad they are back in the USA. Very close speakers. Are you using the ARC preamp? Gryphon on dynamics. I go with Sonus. Different preamp would likely have different results.
@TechnicalPie
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, Audio Research! Thanks for the feedback!
@annenominous7220
3 жыл бұрын
it is insane to judge these speakers over youtube, lol, they both sound exactly like my speakers, imagine that!!
@gintarasshlizhyus1567
3 жыл бұрын
Both wonderful but appeal to different kind of music lovers. Gryphon is all about neutral way of presentation, detail driven and clarity, perfect stage layering. More typical audiophile. Sonus Faber is all about mids to die for, impactfull, upfront presentation, impacable authority and control, stage depth is beyond any normal for any speaker. If I had to describe these two in grand piano terms, I would say Gryphon is Bosendorfer Concert Stage and Sonus Faber is Fazioli Grand Piano. Both are excellent, you just have to pick yours. For me Sonus Faber, but I could easily live with Gryphon too.)))
@ulflorentzi3292
3 жыл бұрын
First of all, it is not that easy to hear the differences through my computor speakers, but it is even more difficult to compare speakers when playing totally diffrent tracks... That being said, I can still hear the character of the sound for each speakers. To my ears the Gryphon speakers sound a bit more analythical than the Sonus Faber which has a more powerful midrange and "warmer" sound... I normally find the Sonus Faber sound very appealing, so from my point of view I would choose Il Cremonese, especially since I know they are a perfect match with ARC gear... Still they are surely amazing speakers, both of them!!!
@altoleon5336
4 жыл бұрын
The gryphon speakers sounded more impactful and better separation. I think using tubes makes a difference
@TechnicalPie
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks) I think so!
@alessandromoroni5680
3 жыл бұрын
Sonus Faber 10 Gryphon 7
@TechnicalPie
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks)
@sc0or
3 жыл бұрын
SF produces a colored sound (1-3 kHz) with a small deep before this range that can be annoying after few years. Lows are fast but aren't heavy. If you listen to one SF, you will recognize them everywhere. This sound is easy to sell, but I'd prefer some more neutral loudspeakers to listen to on a daily basis.
@4444999955555555
3 жыл бұрын
IMHO, it is impossible to tell which speaker sounds better. More analytical speakers tend to fare better over the limited transports of KZitem, headphones etc ... because they hit the frequencies these mediums excel in--mainly detail and highs. My sense is that more resonant, musical speakers, such as Sonus Fabers, are at a decided disadvantage in venues such as PCs and KZitem. It is like comparing Rembrandt to Picasso over a PC monitor: the high contrast, modal and monochrome-prone Picasso will simply print better because it does not suffer as much from dropped visual information that occurs over internet streaming. Rembrandt's pivot on brushstroke detail and tonal bleeding to evoke emotion, while Picasso keys off of contrasts to invoke pontification. Dropped visual information will simply devastate a Rembrandt's reproduction over a PC monitor, while it will be a mere nuisance to a Picasso. A visit to the Getty will confirm this. Likewise, dropped audio data will, conceivably (please correct my misgivings, if need be) negatively impact more musical speakers as opposed to more analytical ones. I have never heard the Gryphon speakers in person like I have the Sonus Fabers. Full disclosure: I, too, am a Sonus Faber fanboy of sorts. That said, I can be objective, too. Both are amazing. But what I have heard in person with the Sonus Fabers seems missing here. Also, are you using Gryphon amps? It looks like one, which maybe gives the Gryphon speakers an advantage in engineering parity. Just my two cents. Wonderful videos you produce and they are greatly appreciated. Bless you!
@elderinmoi1571
4 жыл бұрын
In this room and in this setup the gryphon sounds definetly superior. A bit more impact and better separation. I still guess you can find some other components that work in favour of the Sonus Faber. Don’t know. Maybe the Gryphon is simply the better speaker 😀
@TechnicalPie
4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you!
@salvadorrodenas3071
4 жыл бұрын
Without judging sound, the imposing presence of Gryphon vs. the gorgeous elegance of the SF enclosure.
@tms372
4 жыл бұрын
The Sonus Faber by a country mile.
@cchsiao817
2 жыл бұрын
hi, any recommendation the integrated amp for Sonus Faber Olympica Nova III, Gryphon Diablo 120 or McIntosh MA352?
@TechnicalPie
2 жыл бұрын
Gryphon Diablo 120
@VuNguyen-mh4oo
3 жыл бұрын
I am a fan of SF but this session allow me to say I like both equally, both will appeal to listeners in various criteria. Liking and taste is purely subjective.
@m_c_8656
7 ай бұрын
Sonus Faber got that phat sound, but that Gryphon beats be crazy tight! You know what I'm sayin?
@paigegreene9305
4 жыл бұрын
This up and down woofer thing is going to yield a big hole between 100 and 300 Hz if the speakers are way out in the room like tat. Check the in room response...
@TechnicalPie
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@johnlewis6764
3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this presentation. Playback was through: a purpose build PC (to have quality access and playback from TIDAL; KZitem..etc.), 10 year old Emotiva pre-amp & mono-blocks + Jamo R907 within adequate room acoustics, thus a system which would be at best valued approx. 5% of the equipment used in this presentation.... I acknowledge the quality difference. However I did compare your recording of Maria Mena as presented with a presentation from TIDAL and I could not help but to wonder if you could/ would evaluate your own presentation through playback through your sound equipment and compare again with your original source...to determine the gap - and I suspect there might be a gap... I am definitely not critical of the equipment presented... I applaud your efforts to present and expose desirable, hi-fidelity and visually beautiful equipment, my vote goes to the Gryphons...
@smjerbetsk
3 жыл бұрын
Hard to say about the components in question, but the first impression of sound was quite bad, is this room possibly really bad for it? I see tiled floor, this usually means bad sound imaging
@TechnicalPie
3 жыл бұрын
:)
@BRB499
3 жыл бұрын
Nah the Gryphon Sign. sound is complete with thise speakers.. Gryphone mixed with SF no musicality.. in my opinion :) great video
@Skyshakerrrr
3 жыл бұрын
The sonus sound fuller in the midrange crisper on top leaner on the bottom the gad sounded thicker control bass and good midrange a bit recessed in between midrange and highs.
@pabloalvarez6533
4 жыл бұрын
Any conclusion about the comparison???? Who´s better ??
@TechnicalPie
4 жыл бұрын
Gryphon probably!
@hanifarjo5434
3 жыл бұрын
Great Sound, yes but i think they seemed be needing more Bass Power (if i'm not mistaking), because i'm judging also from my smartphone speaker
@TechnicalPie
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks))
@gryphondiablo3006
4 жыл бұрын
Gryphon is the best😍
@TechnicalPie
4 жыл бұрын
:)
@salvadorrodenas3071
4 жыл бұрын
Gryphon is clearer and the So us Faber is warmer It would be ideal to own both and change depending on mood and type of music
@4444999955555555
3 жыл бұрын
@@salvadorrodenas3071 From your mouth to God's ears. And also to have both the Gryphon Mephisto set ups as well as the Mcintosh 1.25kw blocs to switch between. It is good to dream ...
@altoleon5336
4 жыл бұрын
Gryphon speakers is using antillon or reference 6.you did not day which amp driving which speakers
@TechnicalPie
4 жыл бұрын
Antileon) Thanks)
@michaelnilsen3262
4 жыл бұрын
Gryphon is more open and realistic👏
@hiendo5846
3 жыл бұрын
I can't stop my saliva from voluminously drooling
@gisellamanno562
3 жыл бұрын
SONUS FABER!!!!
@jalechavez6042
4 жыл бұрын
Monstruos...!!...jaaaaa...Gracias por compartir Estas Tremendas Joyass...!!! Ji ji ji ji
@paulg7657
4 жыл бұрын
It's weird. On this video, I feel the Sonus Faber are the clear winners. On your other video, I feel the Gryphon Audio are the clear winners.
@michaelnilsen3262
4 жыл бұрын
Go into politics😂
@tms372
Жыл бұрын
The gryphon's sound broken in comparison.
@anatolyyanikin8781
3 жыл бұрын
Кому-то нравится Hi-End, а кому-то Музыка!
@TechnicalPie
3 жыл бұрын
А кому-то и музыка на Хи Энде))
@miklee4834
3 жыл бұрын
Gryphon is for me.
@TechnicalPie
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks)
@josevaldez1554
3 жыл бұрын
Gryphon took the first place ribbon to me.
@TechnicalPie
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks)
@steveaachen62
11 ай бұрын
🇬🇧...in order to achieve a reasonably meaningful comparative result (via KZitem and completely different equipment), at least the same tracks should be played in the switch...! 🇩🇪...um einen einigermaßen aussagekräftiges vergleichendes Ergebnis (über KZitem u. völlig unterschiedlichds Equipment) erzielen zu können, sollten zu mindest die selben Tracks im switch gespielt werden...!
@krisvojna7269
5 ай бұрын
Definitely sonus faber
@timschutte3961
5 ай бұрын
Sonus for the win
@RealHIFIHelp
4 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does the Gryphon sound like a lot better?
@tms372
Жыл бұрын
its just you
@johndoe21ro
4 жыл бұрын
Sonus Faber sound kind of boxy and not very transparent! The Gryphons are way ahead as far as I'm concerned! What about using the same music on both speakers? P.S. You shouldn't use dynamic compressed music with this kind of gear/systems!
@TechnicalPie
4 жыл бұрын
Ok)
@carlosmoran2432
3 жыл бұрын
Sonus more alive warmer musical
@yves2348
4 жыл бұрын
All sounding like my headphone ?
@TechnicalPie
3 жыл бұрын
Ok)))
@bikemike1118
3 жыл бұрын
For me Sonus Faber looks „pretty“ but their Sonic qualities never convinced me. Not in 2004 and still not today... too distant and uninvolving and also slightly blurred IMHO. But Hifi equipment is highly personal after all. And if someone is a fan, never mind. We’re ALL into this hobby more or less 🖖🏼. The Gryphon gear for the most part has a non-appealing design (look) to me but the sound quality is better than SF.
@TechnicalPie
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@philipw7058
4 жыл бұрын
I don’t know is it just me how about playing the same tracks you played on the other speaker,DUH 🥴,and you don’t have to push down the cd with your fingers before you put the puck on top of the cd,🥴I was told that when I bought mine
@silviosarunic6709
2 ай бұрын
GRYPHON 20 SONUSFABER 7 very simply…… give Gryphon SS amp and it will sound even much much better then this..
@silviosarunic3234
3 жыл бұрын
Gryphon 100 Sonus faber 6 Gryphon is in its own class... Sonus Faber...can not come close near the Gryphon sprakers
@TechnicalPie
3 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!
@rafalbroncel5792
4 жыл бұрын
SF sounds like they were broken...
@milkman100001
9 ай бұрын
none of them to be honest
@Ivan-vb4ct
2 жыл бұрын
Se fate un paragone dovete usare la stessa traccia. Non ha senso questo confronto…
@vinhvuong2851
2 жыл бұрын
You have a very good speakers but you need to invest some good musics . Those tracks you play are terrible music . That’s a waste of expensive speakers !!!
@angelogandolfo6374
4 жыл бұрын
That wrinkle in the carpet, just left of centre, is soooooo annoying me, I can’t enjoys the system.
@4444999955555555
3 жыл бұрын
And that faux brick background! What a trainwreck! It made me decide to never purchase a piece of Gryphon or Sonus Faber again in my life. Gonna punch my eardrums out and become a deaf monk.
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