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@jbwade5676
Ай бұрын
😊😊😊
@darthken815
Ай бұрын
The Battle of Wolf 359 (or massacre as I call it) is infamous in Star Trek lore. Starfleet sent 40 ships to stop the Borg. 39 were destroyed. The lone surviving (and heavily damaged) ship picked up escape pods from the others, then got the hell out of Dodge. Starfleet lost 11,000 people that day.
@jacksonconley5117
Ай бұрын
Now that you’re watched the Best of Both Worlds, I think you deserve a promotion Jen.
@stormcrow7838
Ай бұрын
Jen, I think you would agree along with everyone else that we need to improve the Mars Defense Perimeter.
@e.d.2096
Ай бұрын
@@jenmurrayxo Jean Luc Picard...in a metal speedo! I'll bet no one saw that coming!🤯
@Dillpicks95
Ай бұрын
“Is he ok?” No. He is definitely not ok.
@Iymarra
Ай бұрын
VERY much not ok. He was forcibly indoctrinated and subsumed into a hivemind yet retained some semblance of self and all of his memories. He was in control of the cube, He-as-Locutus absolutely annihilated 11 thousand fellow starfleet (and possibly klingons)
@blechtic
Ай бұрын
He's pretty fucking far from okay.
@mastrtonberry2
Ай бұрын
@@TroyConvers5000 With some pliers and a blowtorch
@YezaOutcast
Ай бұрын
if you watch the 8th startrek movie you'll see how not okay he is.
@3Rayfire
Ай бұрын
@@YezaOutcast Hell, just the next episode.
@davidhart6291
Ай бұрын
The fact that this episode actually coaxed a full on “holy shit!” from our Jen, who would usually restrain herself to an “Oh, frig” tells you how caught up in the tension she was! 😄😜
@colormedubious4747
Ай бұрын
So un-Canadian of her. 🤣
@LightBluePhoenix
Ай бұрын
Oh I can't wait until she gets to First Contact seeing her reaction here.
@peterdorrfuss2680
8 күн бұрын
@@colormedubious4747really?, haven’t you watched trailer park boys..😂
@colormedubious4747
8 күн бұрын
@@peterdorrfuss2680 Nope. I don't live in Canadia.
@peterdorrfuss2680
7 күн бұрын
@@colormedubious4747 nor I, though I went once, 91’. Im from u n w3f pris0n island 0z, not canadanistan, under princeling dik tat0r trudie, have you kept up with all your b00 stirs?
@VME-Brad
Ай бұрын
The Battle of Wolf 359, which we barely see here, is a formative moment for all of Trek going forward.
@jeremygilbert7989
Ай бұрын
Battle is a generous term, more like The Massacre of Wolf 359... but yeah, this marks a huge turning point for the Federation and the entire Alpha Quadrant going forward.
@DarthTach
Ай бұрын
@@jeremygilbert7989 There's a theory that Q initiated the contact with the Borg because he knew that Starfleet needed to militarize itself in order to survive the Borg and later the . And if they didn't then Humanity (and eventually the Milky Way) would lose it's chance to eventually ascend.
@chrisd4228
Ай бұрын
@@DarthTach I can get behind that. Q was always a rascal.
@stormcrow7838
Ай бұрын
@@DarthTach Yes, Q warned us. Remember at the end of season 1 when the Romulan and Federation outposts along the Neutral Zone were destroyed. The Borg did that, so they knew about us already.
@Renegade2786
Ай бұрын
@@stormcrow7838 The Borgs knew about us due to some timey whimey stuff. *First Contact* and *Regeneration*
@otakuwolf4ever985
Ай бұрын
The fact Picard remembers everything. . .that sort of trauma leaves some heavy mental scars.
@Bluesrockguy
Ай бұрын
Season 4 episode 1 (Family?) will touch on this trauma.
@benn454
Ай бұрын
@@Bluesrockguy This is episode 1. Family is Episode 2.
@Bluesrockguy
Ай бұрын
@@benn454 facepalm! Of course you're right, thanks.
@alvarolozano711
Ай бұрын
Picard will have mental disorders until the battle of sector 001 versus the borg.(FIRST CONTACT MOVIE)
@jonadabtheunsightly
Ай бұрын
Yes, that comes up in the future. Not least in ST:FC.
@stormcrow7838
Ай бұрын
Wolf 359 is an actual star about 8 light years from Earth. The battle resulted in the loss of 39 starships and 11,000 lives.
@enterprise1701e
Ай бұрын
This humbling battle, and overwhelming loss, transformed Starfleet in many ways. Q did the right thing for the wrong reasons, and Starfleet ended up with tragically more than a bloody nose. It demonstrated the raw power of the Borg, where one cube took out a hastily assembled Starfleet armada.
@guaposneeze
Ай бұрын
Wolf 359 was an inside job!
@dallassukerkin6878
Ай бұрын
And I don't think there is a Star Trek fan who also plays ELITE who has not flown there :) "Send this message, all channels, all frequencies ... we have engaged the Thargoid!" :chuckles:
@bobbolondz2701
Ай бұрын
This would have been the ideal time for the Romulans to invade.
@choalithikanthe2422
Ай бұрын
I don't actually think Q did "the right thing for the wrong reasons". I think Q knew very well what he was doing. Especially knowing the future results of this event. We've glimpsed what could happen, if this had unfolded any other way. Q ultimately does things for the best, even if it's behind the facade of a petty trickster. In the end... he cares.
@mastervodo6840
Ай бұрын
For those who were complaining on having to wait a whole WEEK to watch this with Jen---- Waaaaaaaaaaah! Poor you! We had to wait 4 MONTHS in-between cliffhangers! Shut up and hit that like button!
@kevinlewallen4778
Ай бұрын
Well said.
@not9hostages95
Ай бұрын
Yeh Like every major series we had to watch did that !!!
@user-be7tc2bd6e
Ай бұрын
Yeah,I remember,that was indeed a long wait,but,the conclusion was worth it.
@TheNeonParadox
Ай бұрын
Hear, hear!
@mikemazza1988
Ай бұрын
We just had to wait a mere week when this was originally shown in the UK on the BBC 🇬🇧(albeit 2 years after the initial broadcast) but then a 2 year hiatus till "Family" was shown !!!
@nicks.5552
Ай бұрын
Those were some Jen’s most intense “COMMERCIAL BREAKS!” I’ll never get tired of that. It’s a tradition, now.
@davidareeves
Ай бұрын
When this first aired, we almost threw the TV out the window on each commercial break, great memories with a heap of family and friends crammed into the lounge
@jacksonconley5117
Ай бұрын
The Best of Both Worlds is in my opinion the most important episode in all of Star Trek. It left such a heavy aftermath in Star Trek canon.
@chrisd4228
Ай бұрын
Oh 100% well beyond the run of TNG.
@alvarolozano711
Ай бұрын
yes
@Daveyboy100880
Ай бұрын
Definitely the watershed moment of the series, and probably of this entire era of Trek. It’s when the show officially stepped out of the shadow of its predecessor
@davidmacy411
Ай бұрын
This episode began the militarization priority of Starfleet future ship construction (for those who watch other future series we know how crazy important that is...). It also began true multi-episode/arc storytelling, moving away from the danger of the week format. In just about every way this episode is the inflection point from the TOS toward modern television.
@txheadshots
Ай бұрын
It lays the groundwork for most things that follow, including DS9 and Voyager… all the way to the new Picard series Definitely a pivotal moment
@TheStammzilla
Ай бұрын
Jen, when you said, "It must have changed him somehow...", you have no idea. Though the producers tried to mitigate it, there was no "putting the toys back in the toy box" nice and perfectly neat after this.
@alvarolozano711
Ай бұрын
i agree, picard will have mental consequences until the battle of sector 001
@3Rayfire
Ай бұрын
@@alvarolozano711 And beyond.
@Tantalus010
Ай бұрын
Locutus: You will be obsolete in the new order. Data: Wanna keep that arm?
@Little-Larry777
Ай бұрын
Shelby: "I hope I have the fortune of serving with you again, sir." Riker: "Or, under me?" 😏
@TheFinancialAdvocacyPodcast
Ай бұрын
WORF: Chief, do you remember the time we rescued Captain Picard from the Borg? O'BRIEN: How could I forget? It was touch and go there for a while. There were a couple of moments when I thought we were all going to wind up being assimilated. WORF: I never doubted the outcome. We were like warriors from the ancient sagas. There was nothing we could not do.
@nataliescott2261
Ай бұрын
Except keep holo deck online
@JJ_W
Ай бұрын
Jen, as stormcrow mentioned, Wolf 359 is not made-up; it's a very real star, and it's the fifth closest star system to Earth. Even though Wolf 359 is so close, it's also extremely dim, so almost nobody had heard of it, outside of astronomers and some hardcore scifi readers. But when this episode aired on September 22, 1990, Wolf 359 suddenly became a household name (and it remains well-known today, at least among Star Trek watchers).
@goldentalon
Ай бұрын
Elizabeth Shelby’s emphasis on The Melbourne is key to understanding Will Riker’s introspection. Had he accepted the captaincy of The Melbourne, Will would have died with her and her crew at Wolf 359.
@vermithax
Ай бұрын
"Frig you! Don't call him Number One!"
@Dillpicks95
Ай бұрын
The torture it was having to wait 4 long months for this episode and after finally seeing what happened next, it was well worth the wait 🖖.
@qam2024
Ай бұрын
Also part of the torture was Patrick Stewart's contract was up, so we also had to wait to see if he returning
@JordyJayHomer
Ай бұрын
Yes, those were NOT the days 😄
@humanvideosponge4529
Ай бұрын
It was. But on the other hand, after such an excruciating wait, the episode flew past faster than a borg cube at maximum velocity. Like if you're only allowed to have one steak per year. That steak is gonna be amazing but it's also gonna be gone so fast.
@georgeheilman4243
Ай бұрын
That melancholy at the end will certainly be an important part of his evolution moving forward. You're definitely going to witness some wonderful character stories this season, not just with Picard, either. 🖖
@CsykKrit
Ай бұрын
I love the part where Locutus says about Data: "Primitive artificial organism” while standing there looking like a prototype breadboard circuit with crazy tubes going everywhere.
@TheWebcrafter
Ай бұрын
16:44 - PICARD'S MELANCHOLY ENDING - Jean-Luc wasn't gazing out of the window of his Ready Room. He'd momentarily glimpsed his reflection and the physical alterations that still remain. Great episode, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@toob1979
Ай бұрын
As I commented on the first part, this two-parter changed _Star Trek_ forever more. Picard and the Borg were linked in a way no one else could understand. From this episode on, Starfleet had a unique treasure trove of insight into the way the Borg function via Picard's experience. Not that it always worked out for them, of course. The Borg remained the Federation's most difficult enemy.
@neneshubby
Ай бұрын
Ok? Man, he’s got the most ginormous case of PTSD ever conceived.
@Yora21
Ай бұрын
About the ending, I think this is about the point where Star Trek started to have more continuity. The early seasons were all stand alone episodes, but now we're adding more character development and picking up again on events of previous episodes. I believe after this season they started filming Deep Space Nine (and surely would have been doing the planning for it at the same time they shot this season), and that show really goes much deeper into season-long storylines and continuity.
@Dreamfox-df6bg
Ай бұрын
To put two posts together. He remembers. He remembers how he destroyed 39 ships and with the Borg sensors he knows he knows he killed about 11,000 people. Including at least 1 good friend. For the Borg there are no individuals, so from his point of view, he fired every single shot himself. No one is ok after that.
@flatcat6676
Ай бұрын
You know, I never thought of it that way. Always knew he carried guilt, even though every action went against his will, but it makes sense that with a true collective mind there would be no distinction between the perception of the whole and the parts. What a terrible thing to have to contend with in his own mind...
@Matticitt
Ай бұрын
I love the visual of all the wrecked ships floating there in space. Chilling.
@VeegovonDOOM
Ай бұрын
Dying in a Kamikazi ramming of the Borg ship was a dream come true for Worf and he was robbed of it.
@stormcrow7838
Ай бұрын
Twice. hehe
@RandomAmerican3000
Ай бұрын
@@stormcrow7838 Shush.
@Little-Larry777
Ай бұрын
In that moment Worf probably thought: "FINALLY!'
@silikon2
Ай бұрын
I loved how the D was paralyzed and only got a very ominous message from the admiral that the fight was not going well. I'm pretty sure the battle of Wolf 359 wasn't shown because it was well beyond the budget to show it. But wow, so much the better. It's the "nothing is scarier than what's not shown" meme. And the D crew is experiencing it as is the audience. In this particular case, the aftermath of the battle was every bit as bad as everyone guessed, but it was still a very powerful invocation of that meme.
@dallassukerkin6878
Ай бұрын
If you so a search of KZitem for "Wolf 359: The Massacre (Part I) - JTVFX" then there is a pretty darned good fan made recreation of the battle.
@dallassukerkin6878
Ай бұрын
If you so a search of KZitem for "Wolf 359: The Massacre (Part I) - JTVFX" then there is a pretty darned good fan made recreation of the battle.
@MMuraseofSandvich
Ай бұрын
Paramount + whatever SFX team they assembled in season 3 of DS9 probably could have done it, but yes, far more effective to show the aftermath, and the bridge crew finding no life signs and reacting in horror.
@LightBluePhoenix
Ай бұрын
Well we at least get to see a snippet of it later on.
@les4767
Ай бұрын
A bit of it is shown in Deep Space 9
@tearsoflight
Ай бұрын
" They're so powerful" the more you learn about them the more you'll understand why. Lovely tense reaction.
@martinbraun1211
Ай бұрын
This single tear...😥
@silikon2
Ай бұрын
Yeah, definitely a case of less is more. Absolutely heartbreaking.
@tonyyul703
Ай бұрын
He has never really "recovered" from this.... He can still hear the Hive Mind speaking to him.
@Little-Larry777
Ай бұрын
@@tonyyul703 just like me when I'm stoned.
@GrilloTheFlightless
Ай бұрын
I don’t know which would be harder. A four month wait for part two without being able to watch it sooner, or a self-enforced weeks wait knowing that it’s available to watch at anytime. Love your reaction as always Jen. Thanks for allowing us to see these well-worn classics through your fresh eyes.
@skynets_favorite_cyborg
Ай бұрын
“The Borg are really powerful”. Wait til she learns about Species 8472 😬 Anyway great reaction Jen! 👍🏽
@keithsantana145
Ай бұрын
The space Nazis.
@FreeBird_6791
Ай бұрын
I felt the show stepped it up in writing, special effects and stories with this episode. It seemed to get so much better going forward from this episode back in the day.
@LuminairPrime
Ай бұрын
I agree with Jen that the subtle PTSD moment at the end was incredibly powerful, and my favorite moment of the episode. Picard saw some shit. Thank you for watching TNG with us, Jen!!!
@WoncoTheSane
Ай бұрын
"They got a random, I hope he doesn't die!" - Jen the Great We could be watching any old Star Trek content. We love Jen because she gets it.
@Rubbermatt
Ай бұрын
Don't be the redshirt, never volunteer for away missions.
@thomasthompson2431
Ай бұрын
Not sure if you got the shuttle kick, the Melbourne was the ship Riker was offered captaincy of at the start of part 1
@robertwall1419
Ай бұрын
For those not familiar with the battle, there were 2 USS Melbourne’s that took part. The first one was Admiral Hanson’s former command of an Excelsior Class ship .The second was the ship that Riker was offered command of(the original model prototype of the Nebula Class that was scratch built for the debris field). This was confirmed later by the production team and a future episode.👀😎👀😎👀😎👀😎👀
@tdrewman
Ай бұрын
You asked, is Picard okay? No he's not okay, this is going to haunt him for decades.
@alvarolozano711
Ай бұрын
I AGREE
@alistairrae9807
Ай бұрын
This is going to haunt for the rest of his life he will never forgive himself
@Rubbermatt
Ай бұрын
@@alistairrae9807 Sisko certainly didn't.
@Little-Larry777
Ай бұрын
@@Rubbermatt 🙄Sisko is so irrelevant he's barely Trek.
@HCAgrippa100
Ай бұрын
"Is he all right? Is he okay?" Nah, man. Picard's pretty fucking far from okay.
@r.d.hargrave8159
Ай бұрын
What’s next is he’s gonna call up a couple hard, pipe-hittin’ Klingons to go to work on the Borg with a pair of pliers and a blowtorch.
@davidward9737
Ай бұрын
@@r.d.hargrave8159😂😂 going to get medieval on their ass, since they are using pliers and blowtorches and not phasers. Pulp Trek Fiction
@joestacey6185
Ай бұрын
Thirty-nine. The borg destroyed thirty-nine Federation starships at Wolf-359.
@wren7195
Ай бұрын
We wouldn't have the Defiant without this tragedy. "Hell I'd prefer we didn't NEED a Defiant, why's everybody out there crazy powerful and crazy crazy?"
@alvarolozano711
Ай бұрын
ONE MASSACRE
@MGower4465
Ай бұрын
@@joestacey6185 Including the ship Riker had just been offered...if he had taken promotion, he would have died.
@Kodos13
Ай бұрын
Hanson was an idiot. He was told the battle plans and ship specifications had been compromised, and he went off on some rah-rah Academy tangent story. He wouldn't even listen to his own Borg 'expert'. As later episodes will tell, the Battle of Wolf 359 was an absolute fiasco for Starfleet.
@user-be7tc2bd6e
Ай бұрын
And that was just one Borg cube,imagine if they sent a small fleet of cubes: resistance would really have been futile.
@nickdiggerz
Ай бұрын
Yep, Hansen had so much faith that Picard would NEVER help the Borg, that he didn't think for one moment that Picard might not have had a choice in the matter.
@ivaneames4354
Ай бұрын
To be fair, what other choice did Starfleet have? They didn't know enough about the Borg to try anything else and there was really no time to try and think of anything else. Also this was the first assimilation Starfleet had ever seen so they knew absolutely nothing about how it worked. They didn't even know it could be done. They found the baby Borg in "Q Who" so they assumed they just reproduced like that. If anyone, I'd call Shelby the idiot for considering herself an expert on the Borg when the only information on the Borg they had was the tiny bit gleaned from the first and only encounter with the Enterprise at J-25, which only lasted a matter of hours, and maybe a bit from Guinan and any fellow El-Aurians. They barely had any information on the Borg and no way to test whether any of their theories and inventions actually worked against them. With so little information to base theories on, no-one could consider themselves to be anywhere near an expert on the Borg. Despite that, Shelby was tactless and threw her weight around and when they finally did intercept the Borg cube it quickly became apparent how little she actually did know and by the end of the story she had been humbled. Imo Shelby was the idiot and Hanson was just doing what he could with what he had because he had no other choice due to lack of knowledge and time.
@j.rileyindependentproductions
Ай бұрын
You missed the whole point in the speech. Hansen knew that it was going to be a losing battle, knew that the Borg raped Picard's mind, stripped everything what was Picard from Locutus. But he wasn't about to let someone desecrate the memory of Picard. Picard would never do any of this willingly, so he did not "assist" them. What is on that ship is not Picard. And the only way he could justify to himself attacking that ship is to believe Picard dead (in all respects he was right given the circumstances... no one knew you could seperate a Borg from the collective yet).
@Renegade2786
Ай бұрын
Hanson, not Hansen. Hansen is Seven of Nine's family name.
@noneya3635
Ай бұрын
Man I love how excited Jen was through this whole episode. Knew she’d like the music, but it was awesome to see the return of tactical Jen. “Yeah yeah, he know he was on his six,” “that was an awesome rescue plan.” 🖖
@davidpumpkinsjr.5108
Ай бұрын
Remember Me, Future Imperfect, The Loss, Data's Day, The Wounded, Devil's Due, Clues, Night Terrors, The Drumhead, Half a Life... you're in for some good times in Season 4, Miss. M.
@ianburns1167
Ай бұрын
Wolf 359 defines the future of the quadrant in a lot of ways. This changes Captain Picard. Though you haven't met him yet, it changes Captain Sisko of Deep Space 9. This changes the Federation, where they are forced for the first time in centuries to acknowledge they are no longer the sole superpower and can face a humbling defeat.
@greenporker
Ай бұрын
"Friggin' Borg.."
@Icypenguigo
Ай бұрын
I love how the Borg cube looks like it has many layers and structures underneath the outermost surface. It doesn't have a fully sealed skin like the Enterprise and other Federation ships. The special effects really were amazing on this show. They looked so good, without an ounce of CGI helping out.
@hop8403
Ай бұрын
And now, another 2 1/2 seasons later, we meet one of the survivors, who instead of drinking tea and looking out the window, he built the BSMPH (known as USS Defiant)
@brucechmiel7964
Ай бұрын
LaVar burton was in surgery at the time of filming this episode. So they used stock footage of Geordi from previous episodes. I bet you didn't even notice. That's why they had O'Brian doing the tech tech and making the collective signals similar to a transporter beam.
@tofersiefken
Ай бұрын
Oh, that little rascal Q and his antics precipitating Earth's encounter with the Borg by personally introducing the Enterprise crew in S2 Ep16 Q Who.
@stormcrow7838
Ай бұрын
Q actually warned us. Remember at the end of season 1 when the Romulan and Federation outputs along the Neutral Zone were destroyed. The Borg did that.
@shabadoo25
Ай бұрын
It's not triumphant. Thousands of federation officers died and Picard essentially engineered their deaths.
@user-jr6bl9ih3e
Ай бұрын
“Mr. Data, your FINAL report!” (No pressure there)
@selorkiith4461
Ай бұрын
39 Starships... 11.000 Lives lost to a single enemy vessel...
@3Rayfire
Ай бұрын
39 out of 40.
@miguelvelez7221
Ай бұрын
Elite TNG. Who knew this team, in and out of universe, could pull something like this? The show/crew has traveled a great distance from the days of FAR POINT.
@Daveyboy100880
Ай бұрын
Gotta love Jen’s concern over the random security guy going on the away team near the end there 😄 And yes, that little coda at the end is so good. No words, just a man who is pretending to be okay taking a moment to look at the planet he almost destroyed. It’s always been my favourite part of the episode. Well, that and the single year.
@brandonbullington
Ай бұрын
Yes! Season 4 at last! I’m glad you’re continuing this journey!
@Wizastudios
Ай бұрын
Jen I love how much you have become a Trekkie. Right away you said "Raise the Shields" and I was LOL by the detail to fandom. 👏🏽
@silikon2
Ай бұрын
Something you can't "unsee"... Levar Burton was in the hospital when this was filmed and his shots were filmed later. That's why you never see him onscreen with the other actors... there's a couple shots from behind him but it's a double. This is also why O'Brien had a major role in the lab. Also, when Riker goes to the lab, Marina Sirtis looks away from Riker then abruptly backs up. It appears she was in the wrong position (blocking Picard) and was instructed to move back by the director to salvage the take. There's no apparent story reason for her action.
@MGower4465
Ай бұрын
I think Troi steps back because she is making room for Riker to approach. She and Crusher had been on opposite sides of the pod Picard was in, and through her empathy and familiarity with Riker, she would be sensitive to Riker's need to see for himself. There's no way Sirtis would be so far out of position.
@silikon2
Ай бұрын
@@MGower4465Yeah I think you're right, Sirtis couldn't have been that far off her mark and neither she nor anyone else noticed before the take.
@willvgo2950
Ай бұрын
You edited out one of the best lines. After Riker tells Shelby to prepare to separate the saucer from the star drive, she points out that Picard was aware of that plan. "I'm aware of that, commander. In fact, I'm counting on it."
@jonathanross149
Ай бұрын
That summer, we didn't know if Steward had renewed his contact
@TheNoiseySpectator
Ай бұрын
He had also been doing commercials for Cadillac, like he was moving on to other things.
@OpinionsNoOneCaresAbout
Ай бұрын
Picard knew, so the Borg knew. Way to miss that one, "Borg expert" Shelby...
@warpspeedracer
Ай бұрын
The Borg... our most lethal enemy. So glad you are into season 4 already. It's great that you are doing two episodes per week.
@joshua42777
Ай бұрын
at the end Picard didn't know when he would see earth again. At least that's my thought
@txlyons2937
Ай бұрын
"Is he OK?" Jen, you will LOVE watching First Contact.
@botz77
Ай бұрын
I can still remember the excitement when this premiered. We had waited for what seemed like an eternity.
@Spidercat616
Ай бұрын
"Friggin' Borg!" (I love Jen :D)
@DC_Prox
Ай бұрын
🎼 The battle's done And we kind of won So we'll sound our victory cheer But where do we go from here? 🎶
@MMuraseofSandvich
Ай бұрын
If memory serves, the production weren't sure that TNG would continue after part 1, so Michael Piller wrote an absolutely devastating "game over bad ending" season finale. During the summer break, season 4 was greenlit, so Piller and the other writers had to figure out how the Enterprise-D and her crew would get out of this pickle. This became the model for season finale/next season premiere for TNG until the series finale.
@stormingelysium1996
Ай бұрын
imagine having to watch as your own experience and face is used to destroy thousands of your friends and colleagues; then having to live with those memories.
@onespeed4ever206
Ай бұрын
I nearly got teary-eyed watching you react to arguably one of the best Star Trek outta the all the series and movies It did change Picard and the way he's viewed by some Federation officers down the line
@nealsterling8151
Ай бұрын
This is a pivotal Episode. The Battle of Wolf 359 and the loss of 11.000 lives had a lasting effect on Starfleet and the Federation (in universe) and Star Trek as a whole.
@pickthestickup
Ай бұрын
There was an IDW comic crossover between TNG and Doctor Who. The Borg and the Cybermen formed an alliance and the 11th Doctor, Amy, and Rory assisted the TNG crew.
@Calzaki
Ай бұрын
Someone's probably said it by now but at the time Patrick Stewart was only on a contract for 3 seasons and the first 2 had not been great... Season 3 was better obviously but he didn't know if he was coming back so when writing this episode - setting opportunities to kill him off, promote Riker, introduce Shelby... There's an alternate universe where the second half of Next Generation was Captain Rikers show
@queegs73
Ай бұрын
8:33 You know it’s a good TNG episode when Jen swears and it’s left in after editing 😂 None of this “Holy Frig” stuff 🤣 Great episode. The Borg experience will be with Captain Picard forever and he’s changed by becoming Locutus in future episodes. Especially the next episode “Family”. Another outstanding performance by Sir Patrick Stewart.
@Rob1701E
Ай бұрын
I remember having to wait a year in South Africa to watch the start of season 4 , as it alternated with other Star Trek shows.But it was worth it. The Borg ignited my love for TNG crew
@JustWasted3HoursHere
Ай бұрын
Without giving too much away, Picard's mental state in regards to his time as a Borg is revisited several times in the coming seasons.
@brownB53
Ай бұрын
And it smacked Picard in the face in Season One of Deep Space Nine with Sisko.
@JustWasted3HoursHere
Ай бұрын
@@brownB53 Yep. At Wolf 359.
@jmarie9997
19 күн бұрын
And the First Contact movie. And the Picard series.
@valentine_puppy
Ай бұрын
This day Enson Murray you shall come to know the most infamous and solemn set of numbers and Word combo in Star Trek lore. WOLF 359.
@TheNorthlander
Ай бұрын
This two-parter is basically a movie to me. Big, cinematic, action-packed and filled with drama and amazing camera techniques.
@dongilleo9743
Ай бұрын
For a long time Star Trek fan, having the Enterprise come upon the wreckage at Wolf 359 was a terrible gut punch. Sure, we've seen the occasional Star Fleet ship get destroyed in the past, but this was epic in scale. The devastation of so many Star Fleet ships, helplessly slaughtered and torn apart, firmly established the Borg as the ultimate threat the Federation has ever faced.
@TheNoiseySpectator
Ай бұрын
"Had ever" faced, but I will stop there to avoid any spoilers. I imagine the debris left over was turned into an historic War Memorial Site, like Pearl Harbor, Gettysburg, or that rockface at the end of "Red Dawn". 😢
@TheNoiseySpectator
Ай бұрын
And what do you mean "Was" a terrible gut punch? Is it not still today? 😭
@dfwald4657
Ай бұрын
More than a little PTSD. He was directly responsible for destroying all those ships and killing all the occupants. He has to have felt a lot of guilt and Star Fleet is amazing to have trusted him to take over control of the Enterprise so soon after without first evaluating if he still had some kind of connection to the Borg or was mentally fit to assume command again. Regardless you'd think after such an ordeal he would need to undergo therapy.
@AdamVladimirKross
Ай бұрын
The 2 part is a foundation for many things to come in Star Trek. It is the catalyst that changes the federation from a civilization that builds peace vessels to war vessels. It will leave a scar that will never heal inside Picard. The thousands of deaths will impact characters you haven't seen yet who lost people in that fight. It will change how the Borg see the Federation and will change how they will come at humanity next time. Of course as a show it solidified a villain that is the perfect antithesis to the Federation. One that seeks new life and nee civilizations, but as food for progress and growth. One that left unchecked will eventually consume the galaxy.
@gwenthor
Ай бұрын
I'm still jealous that you only had to wait a week to see this conclusion instead of the months I had to wait as a kid. Still, it's another great, if not very late for me, Sunday with Jen and TNG (and singing to the intro - one of my favorite parts!). Commercial break!
@harrysarai3947
Ай бұрын
Rest in Peace Jennifer "Jen" Sisko
@lucidf8
Ай бұрын
Thanks Jen! I love your reactions. The Borg are so powerful! You are right about that. And no, Picard is not all right. You sensed that too. Many more great stories to come in the Trek franchise.
@lazyperfectionist1
Ай бұрын
3:45 Guinan does not often come to the Captain's Ready Room. When she drops by, though, you know she has a good reason.
@Tilion462
Ай бұрын
Yep, we all know shit just got real if Guinan's calling/visiting the command staff.
@billallen1307
Ай бұрын
We had to wait all summer for this and then watch commercials if we wanted to see it as soon as possible. Enjoy.
@quwykxz
Ай бұрын
There were TONS of speculations and fan theories in the Trek community about how this episode was going to end, and many, MANY articles dedicated to that subject in every sci-fi magazine (no casual internet back then). The one theory I came across the most often is that the Enterprise crew would get Picard/Locutis back (which did happen), but Picard/Locutis would have a fail-safe computer virus implanted in him/it, which would disable life support on the Enterprise, killing everyone on board except Data, who doesn't need life support, and then we would get a (mostly) all-new crew, with Data being promoted to Commander and First Officer of the Enterprise, acting as a mentor to the new, younger crew and Captain. (none of this ever happened, obviously)
@ruckboger
Ай бұрын
I'm loving that you're watching TNG! I imagine you would have geeked out in the 80s.
@Justin.Franks
Ай бұрын
4:56 One of the ships destroyed was the Melbourne....the ship that Riker was supposed to be captain of.
@sharkdentures3247
Ай бұрын
I love the moment of Loculus Vs. Data & Troi in their stare of/ confrontationf! Evil Man/Machine vs. Good Man & Machine. Wonderfully intense and symbolic.
@staicu2295
Ай бұрын
"a little PTSD or something" oh boy...
@andrewblanchard2398
Ай бұрын
05:41 to 05:46 PICARD / LOCUTUS was thinking : " WHAT THE HELL DID YOU JUST SAY ? ! " I was expecting PICARD to beam back and retake command at that point out of pure annoyance
@DC_Prox
Ай бұрын
"Is he okay?" Actually, no, he's not. But he will be.
@randy7831
Ай бұрын
I get the feeling that if she had to wait the whole summer for this second part (like we had to do when it was originally aired), Jen might have gone a little crazy! Just kidding Jen...well maybe. 😜
@a35362
Ай бұрын
This episode was criticized afterward because Picard was still active duty (he surely would have been forced into retirement after such an ordeal) and that Riker wasn't forced to take a captain's post somewhere after so many people had been wiped out. Just in general it doesn't make sense that Riker doesn't want his own ship, especially after these events. The show continues to pick up speed after this point, but it is hampered by the realities of actors under contracts. 😊
@redpillfreedom6692
Ай бұрын
Not necessarily retirement, but at least extended leave.
@jonjohns65
Ай бұрын
Jen says, "Thank goodness I don't have to sit through actual commercials..." --> that would be a great place to insert a sponsored ad for something 😂
@jenmurrayxo
Ай бұрын
😂😂
@BezoRazo
Ай бұрын
Yeah, it really would've trivialized the whole ordeal if at the end we'd just gotten the standard, "On to [space coordinates.] Make it so, Numba 1. Engage!" [soaring music, credits] So appropriate to have it end on the note it did.
@derworfnet
Ай бұрын
You may notice that, from this episode onward, even the background actors wear the new Uniforms introduced at the start of Season 3, instead of the Season 1 and 2-Type.
@Emily-tb1cp
Ай бұрын
Thank you for not keeping us waiting months. 🥰😉
@MLPDethDealr32
Ай бұрын
39 Starships were destroyed at the Battle of Wolf 359 with estimates of 11, 000 souls lost altogether.
@cowscrazy
Ай бұрын
He’s not ok and maybe never will be. That’s a traumatizing event. They do a good job exploring this.
@andrewblanchard2398
28 күн бұрын
00:01 to 01:09 😂 JEN'S reactions JEN SINGS JEN DANCES
@lionhead123
Ай бұрын
ah yes, that mighty Mars defense force of 2... shuttles.
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