Stephen fry is right. The whole book thing was sweet, remember guys he was 12 years old... I love this man.
@MythicSuns
6 жыл бұрын
So was I when this episode was released and I do not remember hearing it used in that way. Mind you I don't remember hearing that much dated slang when I was 12 (apart from chillax but even that is still used a bit today), even though there was probably plenty of it, I just remember text speak being this huge new thing that adults absolutely hated. What's ironic is I'm now 24 and I hate it for a different reason then most adults hated it 12 years ago, back then they hated it because it was hard to understand, but today I hate it because it doesn't have the same purpose; most people these days have a phone with a QWERTY keyboard built in, so there's no real need for the extra button presses.
@magpepper
11 жыл бұрын
That monologue about London being like language was one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard.
@Kaalec
11 жыл бұрын
Isn't it amazing that Fry, who I believe to be one of the most articulate people in the English-speaking world (yes, all of it), is also a defender of the necessity for language to change, including its definition of what constitutes "good" speech.
@20centuryfox100
12 жыл бұрын
I seriously teared up there. And then he ended that beautiful speech with the phrase "arse-gravy."
@ThatFontGuy
11 жыл бұрын
I swear I could watch or listen to Stephen Fry for 8 hours a day without getting bored. Sheer brilliance. His point about the transitory nature of language is of course spot on as well, and one that few people seem to understand.
@Ashoerchen
6 жыл бұрын
Actually, I think Jonathan Ross deserves applause. He had to play the role of the bad cop, and he knew it, and he played it grandiosely. A goddamn professional.
@islayzombies1
12 жыл бұрын
Only Stephen Fry could give an epic speech on language, finish it with the words 'Arse Gravy" and still make an intelligent point.
@JimFortune
10 жыл бұрын
Stephen Fry knows where South Central is!
@Heavensburden
11 жыл бұрын
When I saw the title I figured this was going to be HILARIOUS, and I did find it funny,but mostly - I just love Stephen Fry even more than I did to begin with. This was great!
@eizhowa
7 жыл бұрын
I tried to explain this to a few "language enthusiasts" on KZitem, but it was too much bother. Now I can just send them this video and save myself a lot of trouble!
@Marina-pe1gx
5 жыл бұрын
Damn he opens your mind ahh love him.
@Szaam
12 жыл бұрын
It's quite amazing how outdated a lot of the conversation is in this clip.
@Woodsaras
3 жыл бұрын
How so?
@qwertyTRiG
3 жыл бұрын
@@Woodsaras Who uses T9 any more? Language changes fast.
@georgehiggins1320
7 жыл бұрын
PSPs are WAY book.
@TheAxhol
9 жыл бұрын
"embwaiise"
@revmpandora
8 жыл бұрын
this is one of many reasons I love Stephen Fry.
@eyemcrass1554
11 жыл бұрын
"Show me a hero, and I'll show you a tragedy." This is the greatest tragic hero of his or my generation.
@jeremyampt
10 жыл бұрын
Stephen Fry is a fucking hilarious genius, a gift to the world
@drtoonie
3 жыл бұрын
"Arse gravy" is the best phrase Stephen Fry has introduced me to
@gbillinge
11 жыл бұрын
Someone on Ask FM told me to drink bleach for using the word ';summat' in an answer. I gave him this link. Thank you Stephen Fry. What an amazing human.
@drdisarper
12 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful human being.
@20centuryfox100
12 жыл бұрын
Well said. Self-expression and communication, that's what language is all about.
@FISHGOMOO4321
12 жыл бұрын
As a British 21 year old, I have never ever referred to as something being cool as "book".
@RipMK747
13 жыл бұрын
Mr. Fry is such a wise man!!!
@rhysaldo
12 жыл бұрын
he's an absolutely brilliant human being
@conman2317
11 жыл бұрын
language is meant to communicate, I don't think anyone should have a problem with shorthand texting, it conveys the same message.
@RIXRADvidz
11 жыл бұрын
Q.I. has many followers and playlists of Stephen Fry hosting and wrangling slap happy standups, I often will spend a full day, coffee to log off with QI running in the background. quite satisifying..
@D0NTREPLY
11 жыл бұрын
This is how all old folk should be, understanding and excepting of the changing times. As absurd as it may seem: book as in cool, seems very strange, but Mr Fry, is just an all knowing and excepting type of guy. That is why he is a genius, he never stops, he's always learning and adjusting and morphing with the changing world.
@MartinWillett
12 жыл бұрын
Which of the following are beliefs:- alcoholism, spoonerism, Americanism, botulism, colloquialism, jism, anachronism Neologisms are newly coined words. All words are made up by somebody, most die quite quickly, even instantly, some linger around for a few years and then fade away, others are taken up rapidly and are found a permanent place in the language. Being strongly identified with a particular first user reduces the chance that a word will catch on.
@F4NT4FRU1TTW15T
12 жыл бұрын
Jonathan dear, you just got owned!
@theflylice
11 жыл бұрын
That analogy was so frumpy pumpy ass gravy.
@ReticentObsessive
11 жыл бұрын
Throw in Benedict Cumberbatch and you have my favourite voices! I never get tired of listening to them.
@havenmirabella3003
5 жыл бұрын
Gotta love those old 00s garish suits ...
@Jdwest84
11 жыл бұрын
I don't think the usage of shorthand in texts is wrong because of linguistic reasons. However I do believe it is undesirable because if speed is your only concern, it leaves little room for any personal, individual style or identity. It is creative yet stifling creativity at the same time.
@junbh2
12 жыл бұрын
And Armstrong and Miller thought they were joking....
@chazisbak
12 жыл бұрын
He wasn't lying per say, there is debate to where the word "meld" came from, as it has been commonly used since the 1930's to mean "blend". Since we don't actually know for sure where the word truly originated, Stephen is not wrong for quoting a valid argument and hypothesis for where this word came from.
@eikoslamiad
11 жыл бұрын
"Stephen Fry is a stupid person's idea of what an intelligent person is like." - Peter Hitchens
@Willgtl
7 жыл бұрын
0:05 Couldn't stop picturing Hedonismbot.
@Smithpolly
12 жыл бұрын
@metalsinani Stephen Fry.....the ultimate weapon.
@sphoney
13 жыл бұрын
Haha, I like how he bursts Jonathan's bubble. Also loving the adoption of the word book to mean cool, and why it's happened. Two key presses! Who does have the time!? :) I'm going to start using it. I'll be so book... Good clip, thanks for uploading.
@sinbysin666
12 жыл бұрын
I don't care what words people use. As long as they don't use "your" when "you're", and "there" when "they're". You know what I mean. As long as the sentence makes sense. I proudly use words (or bastardized initials) like "lulz" to express humour.
@devianpatel
12 жыл бұрын
This man
@AIDSplz
11 жыл бұрын
Every time Stephen gets into one of these rants, I feel like he's bitchslapped my brain.
@Mojosbigstick
12 жыл бұрын
May I propose a new radio show: 'Stephen Fry and Alan Rickman: a conversation'. It would play 24/7.
@Astronopolis
11 жыл бұрын
'Grammar Nazi' all of a sudden takes on a new meaning
@M1st3rB3nn
12 жыл бұрын
But the whole point of this clip was that language is fluid, that means the younger generation's coming up with new stuff all the time. If "safe" is roughly the same as when I was young, i.e. safe to me meant "sound" as in a sound person or idea, then as a greeting it's roughly the equivalent to "Alright?" which is not that much of a leap at all.
@trevorhamilton96
11 жыл бұрын
2:06 THIS GUY IS A PROFESSIONAL SMARTASS. wow that was awesome
@CorellianSmuggler
12 жыл бұрын
Imagine family reunions with Stephen Fry present...
@marcmischief
12 жыл бұрын
i found this video just to win an argument with my dad. He know i like stephen fry and said 'I bet stephen fry wouldn't agree with you'. I can't tell you how smug I feel
@ZPSBestProfileName
12 жыл бұрын
Stephen used to correct Alan on "less" and "none of which work"...
@chazisbak
12 жыл бұрын
I am not arguing that the valid definition of "meld" isn't "to blend or mix", I am merely stating that the true origin of this word is unclear. So yes, perhaps he was wrong to state so bluntly "it has never meant that" but I still think he is justified. "Melled" might be its root word or melt/weld might be, we can't truly be sure. But nice to have someone with a brain actually writing properly, rather than trolling by the way *hats off*.
@dredreoz
12 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right. And my right I mean hideously wrong. Stephen Fry has an opinion. That is all. If opinions are dangerous then your argument is separate from Fry entirely.
@RFC3514
12 жыл бұрын
Stephen is wrong about the word "meld". It does mean "to mix two things" (as anyone can check in a dictionary) and is likely to come from "melled", which means "blended". It has the same origin as the French verb "mêler" (which means "to mix"). Ross was absolutely correct to "accept its meaning" of "blending", and Fry was either mistaken or deliberately lying when he said "it has never meant that". "Melled" has been used since medieval times.
@benf199105
11 жыл бұрын
Fry showing us the later Wittgenstein in practice. Good work son!
@michaelt885
11 жыл бұрын
All the dictionary has is origin and current meaning. Imagine how much words have changed over the centuries? Just in a decade a word could mean something different.
@dredreoz
12 жыл бұрын
I would happily forgo all human contact in lieu of sitting at home with my ear glued to said station, equipped solely with a telephone and home delivery menus if your idea came to pass. I may require ablutions at some point but that is neither here nor there.
@karaNUFC
11 жыл бұрын
my god YES! That would be heaven.
@KuroSaber
11 жыл бұрын
This was made when Jade Goody was alive, things change.
@mingho9348
11 жыл бұрын
are you serious? it is now in the dictionary for the precise reason that it's being used more and more and that it has acquired this popular meaning of "combining words together", and so got its status "upgraded" to dictionary word; that's what happens to a lot of new words, it doesn't change the fact that there was a time where it wasn't a word, and that it originated as a combination of the words "weld" and "melt"
@MartinWillett
12 жыл бұрын
My point is that the purpose of the public intellectual is to be a conservative force for linguistic integrity, if they all just fold their arms and say they're just neutral observers the pace of language change will pick up. This is not a good thing. The intellectual elites of previous generations did not act in so cavalier a manner, they played their role in upholding what was good of the past not just celebrating linguistic novelty.
@zidrater
11 жыл бұрын
very good like Links
@PeterJamesColeman
11 жыл бұрын
Exposé on jibba jabba, big ups Mr. Fry
@vapidfarang
11 жыл бұрын
Stephen fry in magnificent.
@MartinWillett
12 жыл бұрын
It's a great phrase, isn't it? Sometimes you instantly understand a phrase even if you have never heard it before in your life. Such phrases are far more useful than all the mysterious in-group nonsense that you have to have explained to you. The point of language is to communicate, not to exclude the out-group or to make a statement about the person using the phrase.
@johnnybmean74
11 ай бұрын
From the perspective of a wise honest refined human, it doesn't matter if it's a speech, phrase or merely a word. The point of language is to communicate to the person, or people you want to communicate to. Flitty Fry is virtue signaling to the hordes of hackneyed human stick figures in the world. By doing so, he obviously connected directly with your ilk.
@sp4ce108
11 жыл бұрын
The other guy looks like a British Nicholas Cage...
@nathansciarone5627
8 жыл бұрын
stephen fry the tortured soul
@MartinWillett
12 жыл бұрын
Somebody clearly had goose bumps, Jesus was apparently the only candidate available. I am fully familiar with John 11:35, the shortest verse in the bible, ἐδάκρυσεν ὁ Ἰησοῦς, the origin of the phrase Jesus wept.
@stevolution666
12 жыл бұрын
@Mitchell Hansen MORE!
@MartinWillett
12 жыл бұрын
If I thought you were trying to help and had a point I'd thank you. I am not suggesting that we should strip words back to their original and narrowest possible meaning just that we should not salute all changes and positively encourage further experimentation and novelty. promote n verb 1 further the progress of; support or encourage. It is not a confusing usage and you were not confused, you were just trying to put me down because I am not agreeing with the lovey love-in.
@AlchemistOfNirnroot
12 жыл бұрын
I understand, it wasn't a simple a surrounding. The people of this day and age don't seem to realise the true power and treat of the Nazis. The resources of France weren't enough to battle them, no country stood up for them, so what can you expect?
@mrfishsticklover
12 жыл бұрын
No, i'm not. But I find it stupid that people still think France surrendered during WWII because they simply didn't surrender.
@LingoFiles
11 жыл бұрын
arse gravy is my new favorite word
@barrycrump6189
2 жыл бұрын
Meld means to blend.
@procrastinator99
9 жыл бұрын
"Ass-gravy".
@bmanduprit2962
6 жыл бұрын
procrastinator99 “Arse” 😉
@elmohead
11 жыл бұрын
He had some criminal stuff with his credit card so that means he can never be knighted.
@modgoviya99
12 жыл бұрын
My IQ just went up by a couple of points listening to Mr. Fry.
@MartinWillett
12 жыл бұрын
There is a danger here when somebody with the authority of Stephen Fry when called upon to denounce some hideous new usage instead does this flaccid defence of the new and the vibrant and scares us with the idea of turning French if we dare to have standards and wish to maintain them. Conservatism is just as essential as linguistic experimentation to a healthy language.
@PushkaCom
11 жыл бұрын
calmly: "not wrong at all.."
@sandy123noodle
11 жыл бұрын
Yes of course it can. That's what he's saying. But ORIGINALLY meld was formed from two separate root words.
@edwardhardy
12 жыл бұрын
U know Stephen fry is a god ..
@spartacandream
12 жыл бұрын
Neologisms are what we call the words that are produced via the natural evolution of language. It simply means new words. Curiously enough, the term is even slang, as we're talking about words, so not only is -ism unnecessary, we're not talking some kind of belief or anything!
@MartinWillett
12 жыл бұрын
People who too fully embrace novelty in language will render their words incomprehensible in a short period. The hippest slang of the 1960s is almost as difficult to follow as Chaucer. Celebrating and encouraging rapidly evolving language is not a good thing. Language will change if we want it to or not but celebrating and encouraging it with the thought that it is inevitable anyway is as silly as dynamiting cliffs because the sea will erode them anyway. Conservatism is essential to stability.
@GR1PTAPE
12 жыл бұрын
the one dislike is a french person
@michaelt885
11 жыл бұрын
I think the language he is speaking of goes a little bit deeper than webster;s dictionary, Where do you think our languages came from? Language has been around for longer than you realize I suppose, and it has changed so very much.
@GraemeMarkNI
10 жыл бұрын
By disallowing a word, you restrict people's ability to express themselves. I get very hot under the collar about this in Slovakia where I live, and where the use of language is freakishly enforced and Grammar Nazis call themselves "language scientists" (jazykovedec) and they have their own institutions. Think about the difference between "why" and "what for". Spoken Slovak makes the distinction, but the "what for" version is not "correct". I use it anyway though, because I get very frustrated when I'm forced to say "why" instead of "what for"... It feels like something's been bottled up inside my head - It's rather strange...
@coreynewton2786
10 жыл бұрын
That's an interesting point. In Spanish one has "por qué" which translates as "why". Literally, it would be "for what". The explanation could be started with "porque" (no space or accent) translated as "because" or literally "for that" in English. For what do you do that? For that I can.
@MrTonyInchpractice
9 жыл бұрын
+GraemeMarkNI instead of "for what" i reckons it should b, "for what purpose/reason". so, isn't "for what" only wrongly wrongingtons because it is abrupt? 1 year since comment, i know, and not even interesting now that i read what i've written. and possibly not relevant? sorry for interrupting you. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
@MrTonyInchpractice
9 жыл бұрын
+GraemeMarkNI U SHUD B ASHAMED V URSELF !!! JAZYKOVEDEC SHUD HAV THERE OWN INSTITUTIONS !!!withnicepaddedwalls(institutionsisafunwordtolearntowritebyheartoverandoverandoveragainuntilyoucandoitautopilotishly
@MrTonyInchpractice
9 жыл бұрын
+Corey Newton took me so fukin long to twig. for that for that for that for thaaat/ for that of the wonderful things he does!
@GraemeMarkNI
9 жыл бұрын
+MrTonyInchpractice :)
@spartacandream
12 жыл бұрын
There are more than a myriad numbers of them! O wait.... you meant the modern usage of myriad.
@resttherian4949
9 жыл бұрын
All I can hear is Barry Hatch and Reaver.. XD (Fable3)
@gagagirls666
9 жыл бұрын
Oh my god! is true! :0 Lol
@marmozette
11 жыл бұрын
worried about language change? stephen fry says chillax!
@windbreaker14
11 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the YOLO generation.
@SirPetterTheFirst
11 жыл бұрын
lol He said the French have a fucking academy to protect French. They say email Mail but the proper word is a courriel électronique. Courriel meaning mail and électronique meaning electronic.
@MartinSmith0412
11 жыл бұрын
I for one welcome the use of "book" to mean cool or awesome.
@12997089
12 жыл бұрын
I wish he was my English teacher!
@bagsbunny
11 жыл бұрын
You clearly haven't listened to Fry's point, which is that language-especially English-is ALWAYS changing,always has,always will. For example, 150 years ago, nobody greeted people with "Hello"-it was considered very bad manners, as 'hello' was what you said when you found an unexpected object, not a person. Brits moan when Americans say "gotten", but that is an example of English that our ancestors used and took to the colonies. (CF "forget/forgotten"). Language is a tool,and adapts to purpose.
@RFC3514
12 жыл бұрын
Presenting someone else's opinion doesn't really qualify as "arguing". If you can't support your opinion through evidence and logical reasoning, you haven't even presented an argument, let alone won one.
@Voivode
12 жыл бұрын
Well, as far as I remember, there are supposed to be around 7000 languages spoken. So, less then a myriad (denoting a unit of 10000, right?). :-) My argument was a bit unclear. I should have used "varieties of 'a language'".
@ThisPersonCalledPaul
12 жыл бұрын
Arse-gravy=Argument won
@MartinWillett
12 жыл бұрын
There is no point in picking on a singular error. You clearly regularly miss out the word I from sentences. You just did it again. Twice. In speech it usually isn't a problem as there are plenty of clues in the context and tone of voice as to what you are saying and why and who the subject of the sentence is, but in text form that is a bad habit to get into as it can create ambiguity. This is especially true if you compound it with other errors such as confusing your and you're.
@micglou
11 жыл бұрын
To 'seem' pseudo-intelligent...?!?! You're saying about somebody that walks among the most socially intelligent people on this earth? If people here on KZitem would understand 10% of what this man understands, there would be some nice real discussions going on here. And I'm not talking about book smart, this man has studied human behavior all his life and sees certain things more clearer than almost anyone on this planet. That guy is nothing short of amazing.
@LitwinOnTour
12 жыл бұрын
Stephen Fry is so book!
@Rolando_Cueva
4 жыл бұрын
Book video
@MartinWillett
12 жыл бұрын
You haven't addressed my question. Concise Oxford Dictionary: neologism, noun a newly coined word or expression. -ism n suffix forming nouns: 1 denoting an action or its result: baptism. denoting a state or quality: barbarism. 2 denoting a system, principle, or ideological movement: Anglicanism. denoting a basis for prejudice or discrimination: racism. 3 denoting a peculiarity in language: colloquialism. 4 denoting a pathological condition: alcoholism. Is baptism a new word?
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