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@GivingOthersAMentalBreakdown
Жыл бұрын
what, video is minutes ago and this comment is 13 days?
@S517-x8r
Жыл бұрын
Bishop could have just keep the pawn alive and move back and forth that’s why stock fish was right with 0.0
@mrchess8522
Жыл бұрын
This app is sooo laggy tho. Took me 2 min to get 1 puzzle
@harryle2808
Жыл бұрын
@@GivingOthersAMentalBreakdown 😊😊😊
@derborusse4980
Жыл бұрын
at which moment does the engine realise that white wins ?
@tylerrapp7876
Жыл бұрын
I finally have something in common with Stockfish. Now.. I’m not saying I’m stockfish, but no one has ever seen me and stockfish in the same room
@XEJTEP
Жыл бұрын
And i also have something common with " Stockfish " , i can not solve this puzzle . 😅
@DDP-Gaming
Жыл бұрын
I always find these puzzles so satisfying, knowing that even the strongest chess engine stockfish cant solve it at first glance. But what would happen if you would run stockfish natively on this puzzle
@maimonguy123
Жыл бұрын
Stockfish wasn't running at a high level, at the level stockfish was running a very strong player ie Magnus could beat it.
@wasifchowdhury2004
Жыл бұрын
@@maimonguy123 Pretty sure a cloud Stockfish 14 with depth 36 and NNUE enabled is a high enough level
@DDP-Gaming
Жыл бұрын
@@maimonguy123 Stockfish, even at regular depth 20 could beat pretty much everyone on planet earth in any time format
@JimmyBoosterCrate
Жыл бұрын
@@maimonguy123 No, a depth 36 browser Stockfish is plenty enough to wipe the floor with Magnus and every human.
@ElKartoffelbreii
Жыл бұрын
I'm using SF 15 and at first it seemed like it couldn't figure it out, but on my hardware (which isn't anything crazy fast) it needed 6 minutes and 36 seconds and depth 48 to realize that Bc6 is actually winning (+4.91).
@qwerty_qwerty
Жыл бұрын
As a 700-800 rated player, I tend to get some moves on these puzzles correct without knowing why they're correct
@allanshpeley4284
Жыл бұрын
A stopped clock tells the right time twice a day.
@cleandiverge
Жыл бұрын
An airplane flies higher than a light bulb.
@youwantmyname9208
Жыл бұрын
Sometimes we forgot we are breathing
@perversities
Жыл бұрын
Every 60 seconds in Africa a minute passes.
@ashaazimroz9775
Жыл бұрын
As a 300-400 rated player, I tend to get some of these moves wrong without knowing why they're wrong.
@diophantine1598
Жыл бұрын
After the first two moves are given, Stockfish 15.1 with Syzygy gets it almost instantly. For some reason though, Stockfish can’t see it before this.
@mauer1
Жыл бұрын
It's just slightly outside of its depth range If you give it a few more hours to calculate more depth, than it will get this forced mating line. Its basically so bad at evaluating this because it's just one very long forced mate and everything else is either a draw or a lose
@madeleinebirchfield7658
Жыл бұрын
At 5:33 if you press the blue and black cross next to CLOUD on Lichess analysis and wait a few minutes, around depth 45-46 Stockfish starts to recognize the position as a win for white.
@boas_
Жыл бұрын
If you press the plus button stockfish will analyse to a deeper level. I ran it for over an hour, to a depth of 69, and it gave the position a +53.5 point advantage for white, meaning: there must be a mate somewhere
@Gingnose
Жыл бұрын
I'm so proud that I've solved this. These types of puzzles show how endgames can be complex and I could miss some cool positional ideas even I'm analyzing with engines. Of course you can get a solution if you run it long enough but you can't spend much time on every position. Btw whoever composed this study is freaking genius
@Toopa88
Жыл бұрын
When the game review tells you you had a missed win. The missed win:
@tontonbeber4555
Жыл бұрын
Stockfish is just able to calculate billion times faster than humans, but it doesn't understand the game.
@snomcultist189
Жыл бұрын
But does it really not understand? Maybe stockfish does know but he tricking us to think it doesn’t?
@RapBopzShorts
Жыл бұрын
Guys, I'll explain to you the concept of "depth" which is the Engines' number of moves that they can foretell and evaluate. The puzzle is just too long that stockfish can't evaluate it because it's already past the depth.
@amplitudemc
Жыл бұрын
@@RapBopzShorts That doesn’t matter really, since stockfish can usually tell a winning position apart from a losing one even if there is no forced checkmate in its search. The issue is probably that when searching moves, stockfish often prunes branches in the search so that it can search less, and therefore be faster, and while doing so, it orders the moves so that it’s likely to prune more branches with a line that is bad for you. However, there’s a high chance that it just got confused and pruned a branch that actually was part of the solution, maybe because it didn’t think that some king move was worth considering.
@rene5939
Жыл бұрын
This problem hasn’t anything to do with understanding, it is all calculating. But at first to deep for Stockfish.
@xavierb9061
Жыл бұрын
Stockfish right its a draw..with perfect play...but he makes wrong move for black that gives white win
@boas_
Жыл бұрын
I tried using Stockfish with as the highest settings possible, and it gives the starting point an evaluation of +27 (it suggests sacrificing the bishop to prolong the game)
@EnoughIsEnough571
Жыл бұрын
Even after explanation, I find it difficult as I have questions about why it can't move. Most complex one I have ever seen so far.
@sparrowwing1729
Жыл бұрын
Wow thanks for Hercules Chess very helpful!
@Voltage-rs7op
Жыл бұрын
That's so cool. I checked out Hercules chess a while ago and it was pretty fun so its cool that they are adding more stuff
@heart-lin6774
Жыл бұрын
12:19 king takes pawn rook b6 check king d7 rook b7 check and defends king king c8 and its still checkmate after bishop takes rook
@robohonkey990
Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy the puzzle videos. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
@kinnikillerkiwi
Жыл бұрын
Managed to get it right until the moment where the king starts to move, then got completely lost. Still proud for having figured out some of it.
@Adamas12345
Жыл бұрын
9:47 the easier way to win is to go knight to a5
@romdl9991
Жыл бұрын
Then bishop B7 and knight C6? I was wondering if that was correct
@AgentSmith911
Жыл бұрын
This is probably something like mate in 40 with perfect play
@theforgottenpokemon1132
Жыл бұрын
I find these puzzles absolutely amazing at first glance it’s easily a draw but the way you mate with white is beautiful
@alsaid9
Жыл бұрын
Bro its still draw but he blunder with black
@fxracer1860
Жыл бұрын
@@alsaid9 watch the vid bro
@LxpyZ
Жыл бұрын
11:53 a brilliant move
@talkingmango8658
Жыл бұрын
Stockfish no longer uses pruned trees, the AI recognizes lines
@reubenmanzo2054
Жыл бұрын
A few months ago, GothamChess tried playing against a bot based on himself. As white, the bot opened with e3, a move that Gotham never plays. The point is, if the Chess Vibes bot is making moves that you would never make, it ruins the illusion of playing against yourself.
@dr.poonamyadav3699
Жыл бұрын
It is a draw because at 6:24 black will push a pawn then anywhere the king moves bishop will come to g3
@futurethinking
9 ай бұрын
I think, Stockfish is actually right You just have to h4 earlier than you did at 6:11 and defend with bishop on g3 if necessary instead of trying to cut of the king. This means black can queen on h1 before white king get to c8 and gets the draw.
@zhupapapp8114
Жыл бұрын
Latest stockfish can solve this. It took 11 mins on my server and result is +M53.
@XtReMz98
Жыл бұрын
Great way to wake up to find out I’m just as good as Stockfish.... that is, until Stockfish gets his coffee and get that W!
@janosdavidpapp3206
Жыл бұрын
I would like to see the same puzzle with stockfish on aswell
@willsterjohnson
Жыл бұрын
Here's the FEN/PGN for the starting position; 1rkb4/pNp5/8/2N4p/8/5B2/4K3/8 w - - 0 1 You can run through it yourself with whatever tools your preferred chess site offers. I really wish he would put the code in the video description or something, I like to get hands-on with these puzzles and play against 3200ELO stockfish
@chasemcgaming
5 ай бұрын
One thing... black didnt have to promote and if they moved the bishop to prevent the checkmate, its a draw so stockfish is actualy right!!!
@GuillaumeLeBlanc-gg8rj
6 ай бұрын
Technology changes are very fast and now Leela + BT4 find it immediately with RTX 2060 or better and SF 17 dev 4 threads and 8GB hash find the solution in a few minutes. When I say find the solution I mean give the right move with > 2.5 eval. The right first move is found instantly with a bad eval first but it remains always in the main line for both engines.
@levistepanian5341
Жыл бұрын
That was fascinating
@DamirUlovec
11 ай бұрын
Can't wait for 9-men tablebases to see the perfect play for this position.
Жыл бұрын
Why black does not move pawn at H5 at 6:16 instead and than bishop to E7? In my eyes that creates a draw. We cannot proceed with king to check mate because we let black's pawn to go for a queen. We cannot take the pawn because it is guarded by bishop and only thing black has to do is to move bishop back and forth between E7 and F6. We cannot move anything else because we unstuck other black pawns and king. So isn't that a draw? What am I missing?
@rossthebesiegebuilder3563
Жыл бұрын
I'm all about smartypants Stockfish getting owned. Nevermind that I had no idea what to do, either. :/
@trucid2
Жыл бұрын
Takes a while but Stockfish can solve it. It sees a mate in 47 with the bishop + knight endgame as the best resistance for black. Might be a slightly quicker mate than 47 if I let SF think a bit more.
@renerpho
Жыл бұрын
That it's mate in 47 is significant, because that's within the 50-move limit.
@magnight767
Жыл бұрын
Stalemate is from leaving black pawn on blacks square while bishop dances to keep the king away and threatens queen.
@СергейКлочков-ф4у
Жыл бұрын
Not "stockfish", but "crappy outdated cloud stockfish with limited depth". Local stockfish on a decent PC finds it pretty quickly.
@joakimquensel597
Жыл бұрын
Still rather unusual though that SF at depth 36 doesn't find a winning move.
@ppmendonca1
Жыл бұрын
After kg2, h4 allows other lines of defense for black, including the sacrifices that lead to stale mate. But it doesn't free the king because the pan is closer to promotion.
@emanuele59b
Жыл бұрын
Wow another great one, thank you!
@shadowyzephyr
Жыл бұрын
After Na6+ (4:26) Stockfish 16 sees that white is winning
@BlazeRhodon
7 ай бұрын
I tried this puzzle on my PC with AMD Ryzen 5 3600 (CPU is important for chess engines) using Stockfish 16 on Arena GUI. Indeed at the beginning Stockfish evaluated this position as a draw, even it found first move Bc6. What is funny Stockfish did not see this brilliant move Bd7+!!, and after I played this move, Stockfish immediately saw that it is losing position for black.
@cyb3r._.
Жыл бұрын
why can't black just move the bishop elsewhere at 11:31 like e7
@francoislechampi2002
Жыл бұрын
there are so many wonderful checkmate parterns in this puzzle
@PaulRodrichSancti
Жыл бұрын
Stockfish 15.1 NNUE can see the winning moves since the starting position.
@Aki8w8
Жыл бұрын
wait.... but I thought the first move could be the b8 knight moving to d7 which looks like checkmate to me...
@luigimaxwell8946
Жыл бұрын
im but a lowly 400 rated whos three months late but cant the bishop move back to a position where it protects that pawn at 13:08? please tell me why my thought is wrong
@aguy481
Жыл бұрын
What
@sebastiaanpeekstok4577
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant Puzzle!
@44r0n-9
19 күн бұрын
Kf4 was the only move I found in the puzzle xd
@Rkcuddles
Жыл бұрын
Wow that last one !
@andyclark8991
Жыл бұрын
That does surprise me at 5:39 stockfish still thinking it’s a draw. And mate love you showing that.
@david1rosenthal
Жыл бұрын
His stockfish depth is capped fairly low (for low-piece positions like these). An unencumbered stockfish evaluates this position as an obvious win for white in less than 1/2 a second.
@mmkn2009
Жыл бұрын
Couldn't the black just move the bishop back to d8 once the king has made progress towards the top of the board?
@mohamedb737
Жыл бұрын
engines have a hard time seeing zugzwangs especially if the zugzwang doesn't result in an immediate loss of material... it's a strange concept that it sees everything but doesn't see that a lone black square bishop is useless in blocking the king's advance to a d8 which is a white square. As a software engineer I would think this concept would be easy to code into the engine away from neural networks or weighted sums...
@chriswaudby1084
Жыл бұрын
Must of caught stocky on a bad day
@andrewc4606
Жыл бұрын
There are some people on here that say local Stockfish (meaning Stockfish installed on your computer and not the internet version) solves this, but local Stockfish does NOT solve it on my computer using 20 cores even after more than 8 hours with a depth of 104 and over a trillion positions searched: Stockfish_22121919_x64_bmi2: NNUE evaluation using nn-ad9b42354671.nnue enabled 104/82 8:17:49 1,314,424,433k 44,006k 0.00 1.Bf3xh5 c7-c6 2.Nb7-d6+ Kc8-c7 3.Nd6-e8+ Kc7-b6 4.Nc5-d7+ Kb6-b7 5.Nd7xb8 Kb7xb8 6.Bh5-f3 Bd8-g5 7.Bf3-g4 a7-a5 8.Ne8-d6 a5-a4 9.Nd6-c4 c6-c5 10.Ke2-d3 a4-a3 11.Nc4xa3 Kb8-c7 12.Bg4-f3 Bg5-e7 13.Na3-c4 Kc7-d8 14.Bf3-d1 Be7-h4 15.Kd3-e4 Bh4-e1 16.Ke4-d5 Kd8-c7 17.Bd1-e2 Be1-f2 18.Be2-d3 Kc7-b7 19.Kd5-e4 Kb7-c6 20.Bd3-e2 Bf2-h4 21.Be2-h5 Kc6-c7 22.Bh5-g4 Bh4-d8 23.Bg4-d1 Kc7-b8 24.Ke4-d5 Kb8-c8 25.Bd1-g4+ Kc8-c7 26.Bg4-h5 Bd8-h4 27.Kd5-e5 it is still stuck on 1.Bxh5
@mangeshshete3453
Жыл бұрын
13:14 what is balck moves the C6 pawn then thats a win for black correct me if i am wrong
@DanielSmith-pf2mq
Жыл бұрын
Moral: knight is better than a queen 😂
@syedrahman5837
Жыл бұрын
Mind blown. If the strongest bot can’t see it, how are humans coming up with these puzzles. Unreal
@SnapThority
Жыл бұрын
Do you really need to capture the pawn? Your bishop covers the queening square
@gamingtech276
Жыл бұрын
6:14 Why not play pawn h4 for later playing bishop g3 and blocking you from threatening the pawn.. that way the pawn would be one square further down the line.
@jlmlaks
Жыл бұрын
this is effectively the same thing as what was played a few moves later. once black moves the pawn to h5, white gets the king to g5, then once blacks bishop moves away from g6 it is no longer guarding f7 and white can march the king to c8 etc as was shown. its the exact same position except blacks bishop is on e2 or f1 rather than d7 which doesnt change anything
@alexp4932
Жыл бұрын
6:17 why did you play be5 instead of just pushing the pawn?
@AidenMcLain347
Жыл бұрын
if you ever feel useless, remember the dark squared bishop in this game.
@silvanavasilyev942
Жыл бұрын
If the explanation of white’s win is longer than white’s play time, maybe it’s best to call it a draw.
@ushamoolchandani2243
Жыл бұрын
You are wrong because black push the pawn on a black square protected by the bishop and the king cannot go. It has to stop the pawn
@bebou1742
Жыл бұрын
The line is wrong the move is pushing the pond not E 5
@Ranoake
Жыл бұрын
13:07, why can't the bishop just go back instead of pushing the pawn? still same issue and pawn is free and clear.
@Rocky64
Жыл бұрын
If Black plays ...Bd8, that slows the Q-promotion and the white king gets to c8 even faster: 13....Bd8 14.Kd7 h2 15.Kc8 h1=Q 16.Bxh1. Now that the K is on c8 and not d7, 16...c6 is not a discovered check, so White can play 17.Bxc6 to pin the rook again, then 17...B-any 18.Bxb7#
@ThomasRowland-dl2em
9 ай бұрын
Why you do a detour of your idea so the pawn is to far out to take
@elrealista7524
11 ай бұрын
I like so much this kind of puzzles, and I appeciatte the way you explain the hiddden ideas. But I think is is also a good idea to name the authors of this artistics compositions, just as a sign of respect.
@jakeaxel2627
Жыл бұрын
At 2:40 what about the move knight to c7?
@Quoodle1
Жыл бұрын
I wonder if black can force a draw by repetition. Need to look at this more. Might be why stockfish doesn't see the stated win.
@MoBeigi
2 ай бұрын
Nice puzzle, 4 black pieces stuck and the black bishop on dark squares making it useless :D
@DreamingJacob
Жыл бұрын
What happens if the black bishop came back on the same spot after it moved?
@pascaltozzi3039
Жыл бұрын
King has an extra turn and can just pickup the bishop before the queen is made? Also wont create a stalemate... that my assumption but im no rank player...
@coyichi8273
Жыл бұрын
Wait why don’t they just repeat the moves like pawn on h 5 to h6 then repeat with the bishop running around
@user-oy7wk9tk7u
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking of moving the Knight on b7 to d6 and then that would be check mate
@Error-pv7cw
Жыл бұрын
What if instead of Bishop D1 -> Bishop E2 you play bishop D1 -> bishop G5 check? 12:48
@skrrskrrrr99
Жыл бұрын
why king cant step on black squares? cant he just move away if he gets checked by the bishop? 8:36 what would happen if white king steps on a black square?
@deborahd.7281
4 ай бұрын
Why can't the bishop go back to D8 as a move instead of advancing the pawn?
@shindagaming7011
Жыл бұрын
9:48 jump the knight halfway up so the bishop checks the king and knight blocks off the 2 black squares checkmate 😂
@kokosek494
Жыл бұрын
13:08 what about d8 with bishop?
@jeu198
8 ай бұрын
Can people with sufficient chess puzzle setting talent design puzzles that intentionally fool chess engines to insure chess puzzle competitions are won without engine help?
@Wers11111
Жыл бұрын
Why not Bishop F4 at 9:18?
@Rocky64
Жыл бұрын
You mean at 9:21? ...Bf4, Bxc6 pins the rook and the bishop mates next move.
@Wers11111
Жыл бұрын
@@Rocky64oh ok
@tykulm2749
Жыл бұрын
At 3:59 why couldn’t you just take with the knight?
@jimmymcfoss2059
Жыл бұрын
5:23 I don't get it... I go with the Stockfishmove h4 for black and leave the bishop on d8. As soon as the King comes up, you go towards the first rank with the pawn eventually forcing the white bishop to take the promoted pawn. And black waits with the promotion until the black King hits the 7ths rank. Why? cause you play c6 with check. If the white King doesn't go to the 7th rank, you play waiting moves with the bishop.
@moykanal1597
10 ай бұрын
5:40 black play h4
@kidong11
Жыл бұрын
I like your recent chess puzzles. Where have you taken all of these? A particular website?
@freddyhall7068
Жыл бұрын
Can’t they just perpetually move the bishop so it protects the pawn by moving the pawn up one? So if the king moves then black just gets a queen if the king goes too far away
@SS-sc4qj
Жыл бұрын
black bishop to D6 and Stockfish is right
@andyclark8991
Жыл бұрын
3:54 Bishop to D7!
@zakthezakthezak9514
Жыл бұрын
At 5:42 what if black pawn moves forward once
@crusadeknight896
Жыл бұрын
Ok so this is the hardest move to make, we’re gonna send our king to the moon
@awequayzngs1780
Жыл бұрын
Super sharpie !.
@Futureguitarist15
Жыл бұрын
This is so weird. Idk why stockfish just has an aneurysm from this position lol I put it in and it had black sac the pawn, called it 0 as you pushed the king, then said all bishop moves were 0 and any move other than Bf8 was a blunder but Bf8 was a brilliancy that was m5 for white lol
@TehPwnerer
Жыл бұрын
I hate advertisers, I'm not going to buy your overly priced stuff I don't need so quit trying to get me to buy it it's almost never gonna happen
@amadeus3264
Жыл бұрын
Nice!!
@kellister9151
Жыл бұрын
Great puzzle
@bopo5858
Жыл бұрын
When I first saw the puzzle board I saw that you could move Bishop G4 checkmate.
@talkingmango8658
Жыл бұрын
The reason stockfish thinks there’s a draw is because once bishop defends the pawn on the diagonal, you can’t get the king to checkmate without a pawn promotion.
@NotSomeJustinWithoutAMoustache
Жыл бұрын
Can't the king just take the bishop?
@nameunname7898
Жыл бұрын
nope, bishop go D8 before pon go for quin . stockfish right
@zeke3349
Жыл бұрын
dudev pawns cant attack backwards
@Rsconquest
Жыл бұрын
I think SGM's would also miss this
@cristofervidre8378
Жыл бұрын
It was weird as stockfish gives -0.2 and suddently sees the mate in 9 for white
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