Omg PHIA's dad alone had a take on VR better than 80% of journalists dear lord
@CoPoint
Жыл бұрын
Well, I guess he's got 'someone' showing him what it's _really_ all about 😁 - which is exactly the one thing that all those journalists are sorely amiss of 🤷♂...
@emanuel3617
Жыл бұрын
@@CoPoint man, they're so annoying
@strayiggytv
Жыл бұрын
@@emanuel3617 I don't get why you'd expect journalists to heap praise on VR chat when phia literally pointed out that they were immediately able to find adult content, perverts and r@pe threats after being in VR chat for a few hours. If VRchat like experiences EVER want to go mainstream they HAVE to find a way to deal with stuff like that quickly and effectively. Basically your asking a journalist who's on a deadline to Wade through 4chans boards to find the few cool people who hang there.
@davidmartensson273
Жыл бұрын
@@strayiggytv I think the point is, most journalists will GO LOOKING for that content because it sells more viewers. Many of them want the controversy or they want to get sponsored by Meta. You can find the same thing in most of the platforms unless they are so limited that they are useless. But I do agree that it would be helpful if some of the journalists instead of looking for the bad made articles on the good places, places where you can meet the right people, the guides and learn how to stay away from the bad areas that will always exist on any platform where people exist.
@strayiggytv
Жыл бұрын
@@davidmartensson273 I disagree. I've been on IMVU for years and I can tell you, you can sign up for straight to the welcome room and run into giant t1tty giant @ss women in bdsm gear. Heck IMVU is even more strict with it's moderation and has adult content behind a paywall and age verification and STILL people pop into the Hangout with aheago face female avatars. I don't play VRchat but unless you have harsh active moderation at all times people will consistently be terrible online. Edited to add: if you have to have a guide to stay out of the bad places that's not a realistic first experience for the vast majority of users. If a journalist can easily find inappropriate material while playing in a way the average newbie might play them the game is the problem
@lambbonesdev
Жыл бұрын
VRChat is actually the only spot that has felt like a metaverse to me. What’s really important for these things is the community created content, and all these companies trying to create their “metaverse” want too firm of a grip on their virtual world for anyone to want to use it
@spankminister
Жыл бұрын
I used to do RP on MMOs like Star Trek Online. The problem is that because you're piggybacking on a game with other intentions than creating virtual worlds, their main focus may not be creating social hubs, and they even found maintaining existing User Created Content engines too unprofitable to maintain. So long as corporate control of these worlds persist, they are always going to be beholden to the interests of sales and marketing first, and the users second.
@IAnolastname
Жыл бұрын
That's the major issue. VRC is a base platform, they don't make any content and leave the CONTENT to the players. The community. They built the utilities and told the people in the city, "Go build your restaurants, build your homes. Build your communities." Meanwhile things like Meta and Horizon's idea is "Here's your house. Pay us for it. It's not what you want? Well, sorry!"
@cowgba
Жыл бұрын
If VRC is like a VR enthusiast's virtual home, Horizon Worlds is like a bland sterile hotel room. The way Zuckerberg has tried (and fortunately failed) to monopolize on the Metaverse concept is a perfect example of what happens when everything is treated as a means to make money above all else. I grew up during the tail end of the "wild west" era of the internet in the late 90's/early 2000's, and a lot of what made that time so special is present in VR Chat today: the absolute freedom of creativity and self-expression, the lack of corporate oversight, and the feeling that the internet is vast and diverse and ripe for exploration. By comparison, most of our online experience now is spent on a handful of sites owned by big tech companies (hi KZitem) and even the small sites are often tied back to those companies through things like AdSense, social logins, and so on. Slowly but surely we let these corporations take over the internet, and I worry that they're about to get away with it again in social VR.
@peagames2002
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention in "Metaverse" you need to pay for virtual land. A land I doubt you can even modify to your hearts content in Unity, because Zuckerberg thinks his customers are dumb.
@SlainByTheWire
Жыл бұрын
That's the thing, in the real world people have their own space they make personal to them, their home. They have their own friends and communities, people open businesses etc. Then there's stuff like big corporations and big government and idealistic BS that want to take all that away to mold the world and control what it feels and looks like, nobody wants that. It's gross and soulless.
@DraconixDG
Жыл бұрын
Mark is the only person who's avatar looks more human than the human version of him
@bageltondinglequandaleseba6928
Жыл бұрын
idk why but bro seems to be an alien
@christianedwards9025
Жыл бұрын
Oh man shots fired.
@baphfoemet
Жыл бұрын
Real
@thegrimharvest
Жыл бұрын
@@ASDBC Wait, is the common internet consensus that he's a lizard person now? I thought the meta (pun intended) was that he's an andriod?
@thruzero
Жыл бұрын
I actually really hope Meta ignores VRChat, imagine if they bought and controlled VRChat, and how quickly that would kill it
@zero.Identity
Жыл бұрын
oh dont worry i think there would be bascially a 1:1 VRchat 2.0 free copy of the game where EVERYONE will switch to within a second
@housemouseshorts
Жыл бұрын
pritty shure vrchats devs told them to f off I think they allready tryed
@RunicRasol
Жыл бұрын
@@housemouseshorts Doubtful. Most of VR Chat's money comes from venture capitalists. The point is for the company to grow large enough to sell to another major tech company for a significant amount more than the initial investment. If they told Meta no, it's because they were not offered enough. Likely because VR Chat isn't feature complete enough to be sold for enough to pay back their investors with a decent enough ROI. Besides, if they DID sell out, then we could all just jump ship to Chillout.
@housemouseshorts
Жыл бұрын
@@RunicRasol problem with chillout and neos. Is they are infected with really obnoxious people who left VRChat already after EAC and hate vrchat people in every form sooo. They still don't shut up. and try and cancel people who didn't leave to this day.
@octo5042
Жыл бұрын
no way. VRChat needs to become their own company.
@Red_Planet
Жыл бұрын
I hate the word “Metaverse”. It’s a buzzword that never has a consistent meaning. Ask 5 different people what they think the word means and they’ll probably all give you a different answer than the other.
@TheVirtualRealityShow
Жыл бұрын
Most certainly. There is no such a "Metaverse Expert" and anyone who claims to be is absolutely not one bahaha.
@baconbots
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, when I hear the world metaverse in mass media I assume the person using it has never actually used VR tech.
@emanuel3617
Жыл бұрын
@@baconbots they put the headset on and say: ok, so now I put the Metaverse on guys
@devluz
Жыл бұрын
It is actually quite well described in the novel Snow Crash that invented the term. It just looses its meaning because 99% of people using that word have no idea what they are talking about
@TheGladScientist
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it is one of those words that has transformed meaning, very quickly. Metaverse is all about worlds within worlds (hence the word meta), but now people just call any 3D space you can move around in a metaverse. Don't worry, I often educate both crypto ppl and the uninformed business folx that VRC is the most developed metaverse out there :)
@IaconDawnshire
Жыл бұрын
The Metaverse WISHES it was VR Chat
@acsilver2777
Жыл бұрын
let not give zucc any ideas... he could buy outright. that would be so sad
@moonstar8908
Жыл бұрын
I agree
@ecogreen123
Жыл бұрын
@@acsilver2777 agreed
@FireyDeath4
Жыл бұрын
Nah, it doesn't It's half-ignorantly trying to be as anti-VRChat as possible since it just thinks it's a niche cesspool of predation and dodginess
@bateli9733
Жыл бұрын
@@acsilver2777 I wouldn't be surprised at all.
@themagicmaster2480
Жыл бұрын
Potentially controversial opinion, but I actually like the fact that VR Chat is mostly ignored because 1) It makes Zuckerberg's incompetence even funnier , and 2) it means that massive corporations like Meta, Apple, and every ISP on the planet haven’t stuck their greedy fingers into it and monetized it. Let the people quietly build their own alternative reality while the billionaires, in their blind hubris and greed, repeatedly trip over themselves and each other.
@zero.Identity
Жыл бұрын
i bet with you in a few years if something like a monetized metaverse becomes a thing somehow, VRchat will be like this free to use, way better alternative somehow most dont really know or use. like it will be like linux and windows
@octo5042
Жыл бұрын
@@zero.Identity and then people will flood to vrchat once they realize that its the better option
@stanzacosmi
7 ай бұрын
@@octo5042 like with linux?
@Okinoth
Жыл бұрын
I basically grew up on second life among other online social platforms and the idea that online spaces are a new thing genuinely makes me mad. The people I met online gave me guidance and info on how to navigate a life as a kid with no parental support, I owe those virtual friends so much, and these corporate grifters act as though these communities never existed
@YasaiDayo
Жыл бұрын
I have a genuine phobia or weird discomfort when I see Mark’s face 💀
@rekonener2362
Жыл бұрын
In the first image, he looks 3D and fake...when he's supposed to be real. Legit, the man isn't human! lol~
@axolotlIl
Жыл бұрын
You're not alone, that dude is terrifying...
@JubbLaRacing
Жыл бұрын
He isn't even a human anymore 😳
@Tuntor689
Жыл бұрын
the uncanny valley
@Cyromantik
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. It's like when people get plastic surgery and for some bizarre reason decide to make both sides perfectly symmetrical. He just doesn't look human.
@wombatcountry
Жыл бұрын
at first, I was terrified that Meta and web3 would ruin things like vrchat for the mainstream masses or get the whole thing taken down and I would never get to see this magically weird world to the point where I wanted to throw up, but then I made it to the end of the video when you said "crypto is crashing, meta is laying off employees, and yet, vrchat's player count is growing" and I began to simmer down and feel relieved.
@3polygons
Жыл бұрын
Crypto and NFTs had just a savage "birth" (not really, they had been around many years, but all of a sudden got too much hype, and NFTs got to be known in mainstream). But are far from dead for good. These things will just evolve to much more sensible forms. I mean, they will become actually useful, and surely with a lot less (or at all) of the crap they showed till recently. Not so much anymore as there's not much money to make there: the interested ppl now on them are the ones before the big moment. People that just like that technology (I'm not one of them), or more experienced in crypto trading, who know it will bounce back, just never as dominant as it was for a year. And I did see Meta , with mark's resources, like sth that could end up dominating the scene, but like with NFTs, marketers, investors CEOs, and everyone in the middle just are often not capable to see the real people's habits and trends. IMO, it was too soon for what both NFTs and Meta people tried to do.
@BusinessWolf1
Жыл бұрын
nah meta is not just "laying off employees", they're laying off 11.000 employees
@3polygons
Жыл бұрын
@House Mouse Main Interesting... Undermine your enemy if your product is worse... I guess you mean they were trying to do that ? Well, it is a possibility, it is a known tactic... We've seeing dirty campaigns like that very often... 'farms' 24/7 throwing fake news about whatever, companies dedicated to that... "studies" paid (this has been revealed, is not conspiracy stuff) by big oil companies to undermine the scientific facts about global warming... I don't think your theory is crazy (we have no solid proof, but makes a lot of sense, too many coincidences). The Horizon's characters not having legs... I doubt it'd be for not having good enough (money gets everything) coders or 3D artists, but maybe due to expecting initially most people (which imo is the key of VR not becoming mainstream) not having the device or at least not having full body tracking (not saying it makes sense, but might be what they thought...). And the issue of VRC... I say it as an external observer, but in every big youtube channel that despite having a somewhat big audience, ends up having tons of problems with YT strikes, problems (YT heavily fights against channels way too much in "the edge", as it needs the advertisers, brands' money) and sponsors not willing to sign contracts with the channel is when the content is risky, edgy. It applies here. As it is a space not heavily moderated/protected, and human nature is what it is (no matter u and me behave in a civil way: a few weirdos, pervs and trolls wreck it for the average Jane and Joe)... brands not willing to put a foot in there... So, it would rarely become the massive social media that it could be already. IMO, once it gets some solid way at least of protecting the general mass of newcomers (like the protecting "bubble" for newbies many game servers create for the first weeks in certain games), the mainstream masses, from the sexual, etc stuff, it _then_ can _easily_ become a total success. But not the way Mark Z really wanted, which is to become THE place for professional and business activity, heavily utilizing NFT tech and its promised (now fully failed) income, plus becoming _the_ standard way to go to social media for the masses, that's why also the name change (as "Facebook" is linked for ever to the privacy fiasco in people's minds, and also to being a dated platform, even in the UI), imo the name change was not only for playing with the multiverse concept. And so imposing over the other social media platforms. IMO this being the main reason why FB/Meta bought instagram and whatsapp. FB has been losing the throne for years (and IMO tiktok and YT are winning now by KO, instagram in a _distant_ third place, twitter having a super weird, terrible moment, and marked as a toxic platform by many)... He was in my opinion ambitious like that, till that point, I mean, he had that dream. I believe he wasn't being realistic neither was able to "read the room" of how people adapt to these things (slowly and in a very hard to predict way, depending on context, what the people really wants/feels, the economy, etc), at least the big mass of the public. The signal loss in the ads, related to the failure of cookies in the near future (browsers I think are gonna deprecate third party cookies!! this is *BIG* ), tiktok non predicted _huge_ effect, all platforms blatantly copying its model... means that people, thirsty for content more than ever, for fresh takes, and also way less tolerant to bullsh1t, means they are going by another path and most marketers have been missing it, not really catching up (now... they are, partially). I see it complex that VRC, for all what I am reading about it, would stop being "indie". It would need that "control" in place, protecting the normies, for the brands and investors/big companies to start putting money and big media efforts on it. And... while is very cool that it is indie, the fear here is that when the community grows by itself, but not clear ROI is in place, the servers increasing costs as the mass grow.... end up not being sustainable. This has happened to huge platforms (remember, KZitem had to be bought by Google, as was losing heaps of money, and was the only giant that could afford it) , but also famous and loved games.
@Tharmin.124
Жыл бұрын
As soon as I can I’m joining VRChat, because why not lol
@EvoliPlays
Жыл бұрын
@@Tharmin.124 just do it, you don't even need a VR headset
@JonathanBarouch
Жыл бұрын
Like you said, it's all about money. Billionaires don't know how to exploit people in VR Chat so they ignore/demonize it as much as possible
@HiyuMarten
Жыл бұрын
Meta can't fathom that VR isn't about where you can go, or what you can do there: It's about WHO you can BE. It's a place where people can come to terms with their inner selves, in a place that withholds judgement. That's terrifying to them.
@kildozer2012
Жыл бұрын
VRChat is such an amazing platform once you get a small group of people that you know but even just world hopping to explore or find new friends in itself is such an experience that is really hard to describe. I'm 28 and partially disabled physically and can't get out much or leave my bed for much more than 3-4 hours a day but VRChat gives me back my sense of freedom, I was never really sociable before but I've sorta broken out of my shell and have a fairly wholesome group of people that I can proudly call friends. With just shy of 3K hours (including sleeping in VR) I can confidently say that VRC needs more mainstream media attention, not someone that poses as a child literally looking for predators because yes, in every society there will be a few, that won't just change any time soon but instead we need them to shed light on the positives, show them that people like me can find happiness and sense of freedom, show that you can literally find love in VRC, I've met multiple people that were in relationships brought on by meeting in VRC and I think that's truly beautiful!
@genybr
Жыл бұрын
I'm socially awkward person, so I will agree with you but only partially. Some runs are finished with "welp, I'm worst person that can't find anyone to talk. Except that - completely agree
@hannesRSA
Жыл бұрын
Seems too scary to join. I just play beatsaber. But too unfit. Nearly #10'000 though, it's ok for an old guy.
@genybr
Жыл бұрын
@@hannesRSA Well, at least you may use it in a tourist way. Some worlds are truely fascinating!
@AzureLupine
Жыл бұрын
As ass backwards as it sounds, if you want a good time in VR chat, ask the furries. When your whole life is based on pretending you're something else, they've got a pretty decent handle on what you'd like if you tell them what worlds you're looking for. Mini golf, movies with friends, horror maps, even more or less virtual discovery zone or whatever your crawling around in tubes place was when you were little was called. They're weird but usually in a fun sort of way and probably felt just as awkward as you first getting into it.
@cloudynguyen6527
Жыл бұрын
@@AzureLupine society no matter online or offline will always have stigma against one group of people. Furries to me is example of that. Whenever you heard about them, people purposefully tell bad story about them. It's really comical to me people bring up Rainfurrest whenever they heard or even "suspect" me being a furry (cause I said I have no problem with them). So I try to double down by saying there are countless gender reveal parties that kill people. A party of animal in fursuit doing wild thing is weird but it should be less of your concern. About that social stigma I mentioned. I live in a country somewhat conservative in culture. I would never let anyone know I draw NSFW. It would affect my family, friend and work relationship. Even online I have to find a group of people that are comfortable with what I draw. So I understand and respect these people a lot. Drawing NSFW is a mild stigma and some will tolerate you. But being a furry is a huge stigma and rarely anyone outside the community will treat you normal, let alone treat with respect.
@JAYZ999
Жыл бұрын
Even main stream gaming websites and journals completely ignore VR games and VRChat. Even though VRChat is constantly in the top 50ish played games on steam. It’s just so annoying how they’re still acting like VRChat and vr is still this completely tiny community with thousands of players not millions. It’s not a huge community, but it’s much larger than a lot of communities that get covered often.
@TheVirtualRealityShow
Жыл бұрын
Yup, I even see freaking VR JOURNALISM ignore big groundbreaking events and progress happening in VRChat... for god knows what reasons. Not all of them do this, but funny how hosting the largest VR events (IRL & In-game) gets 0 coverage a lot of times... Cmon guys.
@RoseMultiverse
Жыл бұрын
@@TheVirtualRealityShow probably because sadly they only work on commission & companies who pay them to talk about stuff. Indie community vs corporations.
@strayiggytv
Жыл бұрын
I'd argue they ignore it because, and I say this with love, it looks like niche weeb sh1t. I know anime is popular but it still carries with it a stigma for being for pervs and weaboos. I'm sure journalists tried VR chat, though " huh so it's just a bunch of dudes cosplaying as their waifus huh, weird." And I know that's not what VR chat actually is but that's the impression it gives off. It's like if you made an IMVU account and waited around in hangout you'd think the only people who use it are teens who want to look like SoundCloud rappers.
@GorujoCY2
Жыл бұрын
@@strayiggytv True, but as I said in my main comment, There's some Journalists I have experienced that Have properly checked out the Metaverse and did Masterpiece coverages that beats all of other journalists and that would be "People Make Games", and actually a Dutch Journalist that actually offered interviews especially in VRChat and I appreciate him for that because after talking with him in my interview, He did his research for Good! But unfortunately those Journalists usually aren't top media so it's really, really too bad I had hopes for WSJ because one of the journalists does a Great job for covering Apple but it seems like certainly not for the metaverse, not this time...
@JAYZ999
Жыл бұрын
@@strayiggytv I agree that VRChat doesn’t give a good first impression at all. And only people that stick around for find what’s beneath the surface. But you’d expect them to maybe get in touch with someone from the community like PHIA to help them understand VRChat and write an article about. A “game” that was released like 6 years ago and has consistently been in the top played games on steam, and people still have absolutely no idea what it’s about or what’s in it because the most coverage it gets is “look at this funny meme in VRChat”. So many communities to report on that would blow people’s minds (that blew my mind before I joined). Like ppl have 0 idea street dance and IDA exist in VRChat, imagine a report showing the IDA and people break dancing, cyphering, and battling in VR. Or at the very least, report on and review more VR games/Quest accessories etc. Like the steam deck has sold more than 1 million, and quest 2 has sold somewhere around 10-15 million, but the deck gets a lot of coverage and the quest is dismissed as this toy only 20 people use. Same with PC indie games vs quest games. With time things will improve but that’s how I see it for now though.
@thefoundation3489
Жыл бұрын
VRChat: lets people look like whatever they want (and have legs) SAO: one of the bad / scary things is that your avatar is forced to look like your real life counterpart Mark Zuckerburg: let's make everyone look like they do irl, great idea, what could go wrong
@paigelux4819
Жыл бұрын
At least you don't die if you die in game
@StrikerV3
Жыл бұрын
My confidence in speaking with total strangers has increased so much after joining vrc years ago. It can really help you overcome social problems you struggle with irl just because it forces you into such random and crazy situations that talking to a regular human irl is just. Ez.
@katiarepublic7057
Жыл бұрын
I’m happy to hear it’s helped other people, too! I’ve got automatonophobia, meaning humanoid things like statues and mannequins scare me an irrational amount! I couldn’t even play the SuperHot demo without panicking, unfortunately. Since playing VRChat though I’ve gotten used to it a lot more! It’s not totally gone, but it’s way more manageable and I’m less scared!
@jacobwind2367
Жыл бұрын
She's so right about people being able to grow in this game, I was miserable during COVID until I got this game and was able to talk to people. It's a community game and everything I expected the metaverse to be.
@ecogreen123
Жыл бұрын
it's what the metaverse is, because it is the True Metaverse, not that stupid facebook 'metaverse'
@no3ironman11100
Жыл бұрын
Don't listen to her VRChat has had it's share of controversies. Don't get suckered in by shit companies. Do people forget what they did to VRchat mods ?
@emberdragon4248
Жыл бұрын
@@ecogreen123 Mark: spends 10 billion dollars on a 5 polygon eiffel tower "tHiS iS tHe fUtUrE guYs"
@christianedwards9025
Жыл бұрын
I want to play VR minecraft, only reason I haven't invested is because I'm afraid of crapping Mt pants if a creeper actually realistically scares me. I remember when their AI was so bad you could lead them into a pit of open lava. Now those pickle men are mini stealth bombers.
@ThrillSeekerVR
Жыл бұрын
Congrats on 200k, can’t wait to see how much further you go!
@Sussyplayzvr
Жыл бұрын
So nice 🙂
@MekaniQ
Жыл бұрын
The man itself!
@Ratboycure
Жыл бұрын
Well earned
@TheVirtualRealityShow
Жыл бұрын
We grow together! ❤ 1 million Thrillseekers when? 👀
@eggycarrot
Жыл бұрын
Sup Thirlussy
@saidasaetgar3370
Жыл бұрын
VRchat was my fave metaverse for years (since 2017). The level of creativity there has been consistently mind blowing and I still believe it has the most imaginative worlds and avatars! However, since Oculus Quest 2 release, things started to change for the worse because of unprecedented number of young kids. It’s almost impossible to meet anyone older than 18, and as a 30 year old, I’d ideally prefer folks in the age range 25+😢 Very young children are constantly getting exposed to content they are not supposed to. Recently, I went to adult content world with my bf, and I kid you not, 7 out of 10 people we’ve stumbled upon were clearly in the age range 7-11! It’s just so creepy😬 How’s that even allowed?
@NickCorbinOfficial
Жыл бұрын
It's like that in pretty much every Quest 2 game now. One of the reasons I stopped consistently playing Onward, a military war game, is all the children screaming and fragging their own team. Technically...Meta just announced that all players below aged 13 are not allowed, but I really don't know how they can enforce that. I think the big problem are irresponsible parents who are like, "sure, Timmy, put on this VR headset and interact with strangers!"
@Valcuda
Жыл бұрын
I fully agree. I'm only 18, but those kids are so annoying. I just want to meet some nice people to hang out with, but just all children. The among us map is unplayable if you're not with a pre-selected group! Nobody listens to anything, people use all avatars to cheat, etc! I've had 1 good experience with that map! And that was when I was blessed with an instance without any children.
@Sanquinity
Жыл бұрын
35 year old here. So glad I started playing before the quest 2 was a thing. Even before it was announced. Making older friends was so much easier back then. Sure there were still little kids, but they were like 20% of the players, not 50%+. Most people I met were at least 15+ Still not exactly an adult, but at least not an 8~10 year old either. I saw how the Quest 2 changed the playerbase. How the influx of kids pretty much...ruined public worlds all together. They've recovered a little bit, but it's still far worse than it used to be. I used to be able to go to the popular worlds like The Black Cat or Midnight Rooftop and find at least one group of older/more mature people chilling in any instance, if not several. Now I consider it lucky if I find 1 adult every few instances. Since the ones that do still play mostly keep to friends+ or private worlds. I consider myself blessed that, despite some setbacks and falling outs with past friends in the game, I have 10 or so friends that are 20+, most even being 25+. We all don't play super often. Maybe 2~3 times a week for a few hours. But it definitely makes the experience a lot better if you have mature friends, even when you're in a public.
@agungredking9160
Жыл бұрын
Just avoid crowded world like black cat or great pug. Go to the less crowded world with only few people in it. Believe me, you gonna have much better experience.
@pink_sky_morning4842
Жыл бұрын
As a younger player on Meta Quest 2 (i promise I’m not a mean person I swear to god I am not rude,) I absolutely hate being near the little kiddies. I have never heard such vulgar children in my entire life! To quote a person I once met, “I wish elementary school kids would go back to being elementary school kids.” I wish they enforced their 13+ policy. Also, why isn’t vote kicking a proper feature? Some of my other friends can votekick but I cannot because the conditions aren’t filled? What conditions? Also, those same little kids are being exposed to avatars that just straight up expose the avatar’s gender allocated genitalia. Surprised nobody has talked about it so far.
@thejman3489
Жыл бұрын
When I first got a VR headset, playing simple game like "The Lab" and "Space Pirate Trainer" were absolutely mind boggling to me. The immersion and the accuracy and speed of the tracking was very impressive. It was no longer pushing buttons on a controller and watching a screen. It was now mimicking the action of pulling back a bow, holding it to your face, and seeing the arrow fly in whatever direction you were pointing the controllers. It was shooting at robots flying in the sky and dodging lasers with your whole body in slow motion when they return fire. I was genuinely terrified when anything was flying at me, subconsciously thinking it's going to hit me in real life. You are not just controlling a character in a game anymore. You are the character in that game. And taking the headset off after a few hours honestly takes some getting used to.
@nikola9610
Жыл бұрын
it's funny to see that your videos are being used for training purposes about virtual reality and VR chat at the company I work for
@TheVirtualRealityShow
Жыл бұрын
No way that is SO cool to hear. Would love to know more if possible
@mrmexicano64
Жыл бұрын
@@TheVirtualRealityShow they should be paying you lul
@Pixel3572
Жыл бұрын
@@mrmexicano64 I see someone didn’t pay attention to the video in the slightest
@mrmexicano64
Жыл бұрын
@@Pixel3572 what video?
@illliiiiillliii6265
Жыл бұрын
Z.T.I.A.I. what video specifically. kinda intereseted in what they deem important to understand
@marcuscarana9240
Жыл бұрын
Anybody noticed how in VR Chat, NO ONE ever wants to be an avatar that look like themselves im real life. They always try an avatar they would like to be so the fact that Mark Zuckerberg is pushing for avatars that look like the user irl just shows how out of touch, tone deaf and unaware Zuck is when it comes to virtual reality.
@theInsaneRodent
Жыл бұрын
I like to say that one of the cool things about VRChat is that if you want to you *can* identify as an attack helicopter.
@marcuscarana9240
Жыл бұрын
@@theInsaneRodent Right? The reality is, is that people are going to choose to be an attack helicopter or a ferret with a toilet paper necklace before ever choosing an avatar that looks like them irl. The fact that Mark was focusing on giving avatars cochlear implants and wheelchairs for "inclusivity" was just so out of touch.
@SincerestSawa
Жыл бұрын
Not true, I have multiple friends that aim to represent their actual selves in vr, I've even made a low poly version based on a friend's picture
@KingDetonation
Жыл бұрын
@@SincerestSawa you sir just described the textbook definition of the saying "you are the exception, NOT THE RULE"
@Kkurasmoon
Жыл бұрын
i always try to get avatars that are like me all the time so people wouldn't say this to me
@besknighter
Жыл бұрын
You got the nail in the head with this video. The internet is what it is now because, in the beginning, people just wanted to create amazing stuff. The money wasn't an after thought. It wasn't thought about at all. It just happened to came along later. We need the majority of those pushing the envelope of the metaverse forward to do the same. If we don't focus on building cool and amazing stuff, this is gonna crash and burn. And fast.
@birdflox1337
Жыл бұрын
honestly, as sad as it can sometimes seem that VR Chat doesn't get the recognition it deserves, maybe it's best it isn't mainstream. I imagine things like copyright rules would need to get much more strict.
@Lieliiiii
Жыл бұрын
I dont know why but after the whole explanation and story just ending it with "this is not the future this is now." had me in tears. i love vr so much..
@billothekid
Жыл бұрын
I love that you got your dad to do an interview! As a guy in his late 30's, I sometimes feel a bit out of place in things like VRChat. As such, I often explore worlds in private instances, which could sound a little sad if the worlds weren't so incredible. My point is, somebody needs to show "journalists" how amazing these places can be without all the culture that might exist around public worlds.
@underflip2
Жыл бұрын
I’m 40+ loving nej g a female avatar. Don’t feel weird there are amazing people in vrc that will be friendly no matter what you want to be. I felt the same thing as you until I found people just like me. 👍🏻
@3polygons
Жыл бұрын
Imagine a guy being 50.... but I don't care... I have accounts and activity on Discord, Twitch, Reddit, Instagram, Tumblr and whatever... VR not so much as I get dizzy... That and due to having very little time available, often. But the not so nerd of my generation... many of those don't even know what Discord, Twitch or Reddit are, let alone VRC. VR yep, _very_ vaguely. I might try VRC for art making matters, like, might try to upload 3D that I make, to see how it goes.
@blitzrigen
Жыл бұрын
@@SkeleTonHammer What does being a straight edge and being a far left extremist have to do with anything vr related? Its not even all about anime, thats just what most ppl like to look like in the game. There are thousands of avatars you can be. Also the VRChat community is pretty damn aware of how niche and clique-ish they CAN be. Thats why if you talk to someone who does play vrchat you will hear some complaints about public worlds being so random and toxic. But if you ever go in with a friend just exploring the worlds available to you it can be such an amazing time. Like looking through an art museum that is all free and available to view and play in. Its already growing and it has a foot hold, there is only so long that the mainstream media can ignore it as it grows and grows. VRChat is just a place where you can hangout with anyone anywhere in the world and well chat. Politics only place in vrchat is only in that one conversation between you and another person, nowhere else. What you do in the game is up to you in a true literal sense. You could be yourself or someone else or something else or hell even an exaggerated version of yourself and just let loose and have fun. Its not the elephant in the room we cant talk about, its the elephant in the room we are talking about with others trying to make us stop. But what do I know, for all of this I could just be talking to a skele-ton with a hammer who is 36 years old who includes politics in a non-political discussion. (To be fully honest that sounds like a hilarious avatar/character someone could be in vrchat. Imagine a random skeleton with a hammer just walks into a bar and starts spouting stuff about random politics, like that alone could be bloody brilliant lmao)
@JHess
Жыл бұрын
@@SkeleTonHammer you, my young friend, have a lot of growing up to do. talk to us again when you're in your 50s.....
@underflip2
Жыл бұрын
@@SkeleTonHammer haha non of the people in my friends group is even close to being far left extremist so I don't know what people you have met. Its sertanly not for everybody but most people kan find something they like in there. Vrchat is much more than anime. We have all sorts of people in out group.
@hello.ily.wytmyn
Жыл бұрын
“This is not the future. This is now” absolutely love this. It’s always the ones who are the most out of touch with the current world that makes the decisions for us, so they spend time on things that are already here. Remember when they tried to make a “new” virtual artist named Polar and expected them to be popular? Did they seriously forgot when Gorillaz boomed during the 2000’s? 2d could go to Elton John and be like, “Ello Elton Jawn yu wan to do a lil collab?” And Elton would be like, “Fuck yes 2d I would love to,” i could go in-depth on how connected gorillaz is to the real life music industry, but the point is, they’ve already completed the goal of connecting the virtual world to reality and people are just ignoring that. This connect has been naturally growing every year without the help of big corporations pushing on it. The rise of Vtubers was not made from the aid of Zucky boy’s metaverse. The best way the “metaverse” can evolve is if it progresses slowly and naturally. But it’s potential is so huge, big corporations want it immediately and fast as possible. The metaverse should not feel like a business venture, it should feel like a connect.
@Nimagia
Жыл бұрын
I really hope this video goes viral or at least viewed by more mainstream media. Really would do VR and VRchat a service.
@Datdus92
Жыл бұрын
I think what people forget is that VRchat also caters to people playing on a 2d screen. This way, they can interact with the 'the metaverse' in a way they are already familiar with and then make the jump to VR once they feel like it.
@Valcuda
Жыл бұрын
This! Before I got a Quest 2, I thought VRchat was some weird app, that only weirdos used. But I played it a bit on Windows, and I realized it was just a place to have fun. VRChat was the first thing I played on my Quest 2! With Metas "First steps" app being the second. The Metaverse shouldn't be exclusive to VR, it should definitely focus on it, but let people experience it without needing to take a leap of faith first!
@typehere6689
Жыл бұрын
I insist on only starting once I get a full body tracking setup.
@Metrikon9000
Жыл бұрын
I was beginning to worry that you weren't going to touch on the monetization aspect of Meta, but as soon as you said "Money, money, money" I realized you got it. It's the reason I am so fearful of the future, because if everything is monetized even in a digital space, people without a large amount of disposable income like myself will gradually find themselves forced out of their favorite hobbies. I'm already starting to feel that with video games. I'm an older millennial in my late 30s, and I've been playing video games my whole life. Since the early days of Atari and Nintendo, to the rise of my favorite drug of choice, MMORPGs, I've seen a gradual increase in the monetization of digital goods that feels...just plain wrong. This is especially true with F2P or Gacha games, because they market them as free but you end up spending more money just to enjoy the experience at a reasonable pace. My last bastion at the moment is FFXIV, but who knows how long that will last? Square Enix has jumped on the NFT bandwagon, so I'm afraid that some day soon the nickel and dime monetization will start creeping in. I'm starting to think that I need to drag out the Oculus Rift that currently sits in a drawer at the bottom of my file cabinet and dive into VRChat. Maybe that will be my new escape from reality.
@Eudaletism
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the behavior goes completely against the spirit of the internet. Imagine if you had to pay to copy a file, or to spread a meme. If copyright were actually enforced, I mean, really enforced, there would be no memes, because you'd have to get permission from the original meme creator in order to spread it. Like 99% of internet culture exists because information is treated as a shared, community resource by default (with some exceptions to create incentives for artists of course). Information is fundamentally post-scarcity, and the metaverse should be post-scarcity. Everyone can have their own mansion. Locking it down, making people buy land and digital furniture, might make sense in a game, where you opt in to scarcity for fun, but the top level needs to be like minecraft creative mode, completely open and free as in freedom.
@katiena1251
Жыл бұрын
I never been in VRchat, but I knew about it. I think most gamers know about it. Second life was a big deal it when it came out too. It's why I laughed so hard when I saw the models for the Medverse.
@HakuFromVR
Жыл бұрын
You know what? this channel is what people need to realise what is going on in the true virtual reality. Spending most of my free time in these virtual worlds in VR Chat, now means a lot to me. Turns out that I had meet awesome people, beautiful talents. All of this virtual universe made me learn so much that i got addicted to it. I've been having so much fun, so much adventures, even tho i'm in the safety of my living room. Feels awesome to be who I really am, where i really want to be.
@JaylaLuv
Жыл бұрын
This was nicely said, and your dad's point was absolutely right. I hope VR Chat in the near future isn't underestimated and instead grows even more as it is now.
@gergom.8310
Жыл бұрын
We can still hope. Discord was made in 2015 but went really viral and mainstream in the 2020s.
@LoreliaDeMildiane
Жыл бұрын
Really happy to see someone tackle that subject! It's so frustrating to see VRChat being ignored again and again :(
@ndfdm5705
Жыл бұрын
I don't even use vr chat - I have used vr. It's fucking fantastic. Legit the future of media. One hour of playing killing floor in vr is worth ten playing it on pc in sheer fun factor- and everytime I've seen meta-verse come up my brain kept going "Oh, like, VR chat but worse and moderated by stiffs that actively made the internet worse?"
@nomanga
Жыл бұрын
Wow I wasn't even interested in this topic before and honestly didn't even really know it existed, but I somehow watched the entire video and now I'm actually curious. Great video, honestly.
@TheVirtualRealityShow
Жыл бұрын
❤
@docopoper
Жыл бұрын
As a Millennial I love how it always feels like Millennials and Gen Z are a pair of fist bumping siblings complaining about how much our parents screwed us over. I feel like I must protecc this other generation.
@norsehawk
Жыл бұрын
I'm Phia's dad's generation, during the lockdown, I got into vrchat to deal with not meeting people face to face anymore, ended up becoming a furry, and started making my own avatars and making them for others.
@Cyromantik
Жыл бұрын
That's really cool! In Zuckerberg's 'verse you'd never have had that level of customization and opportunity for self-discovery and entrepreneurship!
@LakeofCrystalclan
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely based. Godspeed, my guy
@gamingmitnoahd4036
Жыл бұрын
Hi @norsehawk most people from your age also dont understand what furrys are, the same whit the "metaverse" they hear "furrys are zoophiles!" Or "Vr is bad" and never try both. but you tried somthing new and found an new hobby an an new community. I wish more people would be like you and dont care about the bad press and try new things. I really wish you the best!
@norsehawk
Жыл бұрын
@@gamingmitnoahd4036 to quote something from when I was growing up, " I don't want to grow up, I'm a Toys R Us kid..."
@froddobaggins
Жыл бұрын
oh no
@dropdedgothish
Жыл бұрын
That part with your dad was really cool! it's nice to hear what older people think about it, who've tried VR chat and enjoyed it!
@3polygons
Жыл бұрын
Most people _I know_ of my generation (50), - being from a 1st world EU country-, have at some point tried an VR device, but don't even know what VR Chat is (I myself am not a VR user, I've dug about the matter, only).
@nara4420
Жыл бұрын
@@3polygons just do it ! I am 58 and already more than 2 years in VRChat. It changed my life to the better. And i can say it is great how welcoming most communities are in VRChat. Most people are younger, but there are quite some in my age and even older.
@3polygons
Жыл бұрын
@@nara4420 Thank you! That's great to know! :)
@clearcrossroads
Жыл бұрын
My mother (aged 60) was horrified when I got my Quest 2 a few months ago. She covered her mouth, audibly gasped, and unironically said that it's evil, that it's mind control, that its explicit goal is to destroy life, and that it will steal my soul. She said the reason it's called Meta is because they want to destroy reality and replace it with death, lies, deceit, illusions, and "their own script", I think she said. I tried to explain to her that it's called Meta because it's a reality inside a reality, and she said I didn't know what I was talking about; that "she's done her research." She said that she's, quote, "terrified that it's infiltrated her home". Meanwhile, she's EXTREMELY agoraphobic, and consequently hasn't left the apartment in YEARS, but her biggest interests are nature and survivalism. She refuses to even consider the notion that this thing could do any kind of good for her at all, let alone prove to be therapeutic or cathartic in any way, and she staunchly refuses to try it. It's the kind of sad that's arguably pushing into tragic.
@sassysora1435
Жыл бұрын
"It's not the future, it's the now and it's beautiful." That line hit me harder than a bowling ball to the head. That was beautiful!
@biadzok4573
Жыл бұрын
Probably the one video about vrchat I'd like to see go viral because of how well you explain what vrchat is.
@ZajVR
Жыл бұрын
I really loved this video, speaking as someone that's born in 1982 and active player of VRChat, you've really grasped the importance of this game, and I'm so happy that we got so many new people coming in that are within your age and totally getting on board with this! I've been playing VRC since 2018, and I won't stop anytime soon! Great video
@BurstupTV
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's mind-boggling. VRChat has such a vibrant and diverse culture, amazing avatars and maps, full body tracking, facial tracking.... and yet it's largely ignored by Zuck, by news media etc. But what can I say, I've been in user-generated virtual worlds for 20 years now. Second Life, Open Simulator... and they have ignored those, too. We didn't have VR headsets back then, but 15 years ago I used SL on a large canvas with a video projector, and that was virtual reality for us, and we used to call Second Life the "metaverse" sometimes. Anyways... VRChat (and Neos and Chillout) are great today (and SL is still good, too), and their communites will stay on the cutting edge of this development.
@TheThorns
Жыл бұрын
seeing the penguin playing chess and looking at the camera made me bust up laughing for some reason.
@turmations5556
Жыл бұрын
One problem with the idea of entering vrchat, posing as a 13 y/o, and investigating it is looking for trouble, but not experiencing the true feel for the game. Looking for what is fun in something is different than looking for all the problems
@certainlystormy
Жыл бұрын
i found this channel just now and i absolutely love it. theres so much effort put into every part of it, and the camerawork inside vrchat too is so cool. tbh i think im gonna cry
@blindlight
Жыл бұрын
one thing i worry about a lot is that what makes vrc so good is it's where creators go to make stuff for other creators-- the level of knowledge and talent is just so high-- but im not sure theres a way to scale that up without the vast majority of users becoming just passive consumers of experiences. the most important thing from my perspective is education about how to create 3d environments and characters-- making your own experience needs to be a fundamental right and skill, so that people will more accurately judge the value of the mass of digital cosmetics being thrown at them in the future mainstream platforms. we already forgot how to make our own websites and thats part of what made web2.0 end up so centralized
@hunterx2210
Жыл бұрын
I hope this helps parent understand that social platform exist in VR and they should monitor their children to guide them.
@chyadosensei
Жыл бұрын
Japan has shown a lot of VRChat in the news and during talks shows here recently. Lots of love for what the game is here 💞
@chyadosensei
Жыл бұрын
@@SkeleTonHammer I don't know about niche considering during vket they have multi-million dollar companies investing in ads during the event.
@AzaiaMonota
Жыл бұрын
@@SkeleTonHammer VRChat is currently the 26th most active game on Steam beating out games like Elden Ring, Elder Scrolls, Fallout, RDR2, FIFA, and FF14, calling VRChat anything but a massive mainstream success would be a false statement
@Vysair
Жыл бұрын
@@AzaiaMonota Not to mention, it's probably the biggest in VR
@stratum42
Жыл бұрын
First time I've seen one of your videos and it's well done. You have an open and honest outlook. Much like your Dad, I'm also a 40-something father who grew up in arcades. I also became a fan of alternate realities and the Cyberpunk genre in the 80s, still am. Although I own around 120 VR titles I've never jumped into VR Chat yet, but I know those who have. In my opinion, for what that's worth as an older guy who dreamed of Ready Player One since I was a kid, VR Chat is the closest thing we have right now. And if it doesn't lead us there, it will be one of the early examples others stand on the shoulders of. Those reviewers also ignore the social connections we get playing games online where I myself have played with the same people for over a decade. If anything, THAT is what will get people to want to live in VR much as it has done for other games like World of Warcraft.
@apple_m2_delight
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: metaverse has already exists since the 80s with quantum link for commodore 64. Quantum link for those who don't know is an isp service for your commodore 64. It is the predecessor to AOL (America online) and it gives you the ability to not only chat with other commodore 64 users but also play around with basically a proto metaverse. Quantum link was made public from 1985. That just shows you how old metaverse is
@mirichiivr
Жыл бұрын
I love how you broke down what I feel like a lot of us have been thinking! Always found it interesting how VRC isn't talked about very much in mainstream media when it seemed like one of the most creative and immersive places to me?? Super sweet and cool that you got your dad's perspective!! Well made video! ^.^
@dextermorris7096
Жыл бұрын
We need more of your dad, such a sweet soul!
@TheONLYFeli0
Жыл бұрын
There is nothing want less than a virtual mirror version of our world everybody can connect into.
@rowandoggo
Жыл бұрын
So im a furry and an ASL student with a ton of friends in VRChat. I've learned a second language that I'm choosing to make the rest of my life devoted to, and I absolutely love the communities and friend groups I'm associated with. This game has made me more humble, and opened my eyes to realities I'd never even considered to be real for others... The Deaf community in vrc has taught me well, and honestly I don't think I've played any other game more than this one.
@nara4420
Жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right ! But what if VRChat becomes known to all that big companies ? It scares me what can happen when the big money kicks in, brings regulations and ends the freedom. We have seen Neos and the crypto-story, and the death of plugins in VRChat ... sometimes i think it's better when they ignore VRC.
@justacrusaderguy3320
Жыл бұрын
My great-grandmother found out about VRChat, and she asked me, "Why are there people dressed up as "cartoon characters," and I don't know what to tell her.
@TheExecutorr
Жыл бұрын
Even if ignoring that VR chat exists, what corporations don't understand is that I have no reason to pay money for digital land, when I can already be the god of my own world in countless video games, many of which are mulitplayer and can be modded for VR. Why the heck would I pay for something that I can have for free or at very low cost, at a better quality?
@HoloTheWiseVR
Жыл бұрын
i had my great grandmother (born in 1931) try my vive in 2017 and she still loves to play it even now she thinks its amazing to be able to hang out with people from around the world and play all these different kinds of games with them.
@anthonyapodaca9868
Жыл бұрын
Phia is the one person that inspired My to get my oculus quest 2
@MonstehDinosawr
Жыл бұрын
Got my index because of her video
@EwokFuica
Жыл бұрын
Me too 🥰
@paolaanimator
Жыл бұрын
Thanks to Phia, GetHip and Thrillseeker I have a Quest 2 but I haven't been using it much due to combating motion sickness lol. But it's fun using it in VR Chat with PCVR.
@paolaanimator
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video! It annoys me when the media talks about the metaverse like it's a new thing, like adding legs to avatars, and their avatars and worlds looks so bland, but VR Chat has been doing this already for so many years with beautiful worlds, great avatars that be created in Blender and uploaded for free, and plus avatars have leg tracking! I'm waiting for full body tracking to arrive in the future (Slime VR) so I'm excited.
@xX-DogSama-Xx
Жыл бұрын
I think there are a few things holding VRChat back from being a big deal in the mainstream media, the most obvious one is that it doesn't have some huge corporations name behind it, so the mainstream media won't have the same wow-factor that an already recognizable brand trying to do the same thing would. I think the next would be it's accessibility, yes it's on quest but to really be able to experience the best it has to offer, you kinda need a pretty beefy PC to be able to handle it well. That accessibility might also play into why the public in general doesn't hop on the VRChat train, often I've noticed the Quest version gets disregarded even though it's going to be most people's entry point. Other things branching off of that would be that you could say it isn't really a "metaverse" because it isn't a self-sufficient environment. You have to have outside knowledge and tools like Blender and Unity to be able to create, it has the SDK to help you sort your stuff out into a way that works with VRChat, but you can't just simply create for VRChat WITH VRChat. Now personally I don't see that as a bad thing, letting people use things they are already familiar with and can import to can be extremely helpful for letting people get creative and express themselves how they want in-game, but I think it should be supplemental to some sort of method to make your own worlds or avatars in the virtual world itself, and I think Tower Unite is actually a great example of this. Tower Unite has a base character customization system that lets you choose a default avatar and some accessories to go with it, but it also gives you the option to upload your own avatars to be whatever you want. and while it isn't exactly the same, the condo system is similar, providing preset areas you can customize to your hearts content with furnishing all provided by the game, but if that isn't enough, you also have the option to import your own items to customize your condo, or you could take it a step further and have an empty field as your condo, and import a model to make your own entirely new world in its place. Now I'm not saying this is a perfect implementation, but I think something similar could work really well in letting players who don't have that outside technical knowledge take part in the creation process and letting them express themselves in any way they're comfortable with
@rager_fox8147
Жыл бұрын
Loved it, as someone who started playing this game during the COVID lockdowns, I must say I enjoy it very much. Wish there were older people I could hang out with in VRC, but it wouldn't be the highlight of my day. I love spending time with like minded people and I enjoy dancing in VRC. Keep up the good work ❤️
@neonbat666
Жыл бұрын
Even as someone who's only VRChat experience is through watching friends play, every time I see it I get this deep nostalgia for a time that never really existed. Perhaps it's from the sheer amount of creativity, or from seeing so many people moving around and talking and forging bonds despite being hundreds or even thousands of miles apart.
@Sparkz1607
Жыл бұрын
That time does exist, and it's *right now.* Social VR is a magical place. It's like being at a convention. These are your people. Your weird, wonderful people that aren't afraid to express themselves. You should join us. :)
@AdrianAye
Жыл бұрын
A lot of streamers are dipping their toes into VR. (Not META sponsored streams) Hope you guys can Collab while they have their VR headsets setup. I think they can bring attention to VR and community and can create a little boom to help keep pushing VR forward.
@3polygons
Жыл бұрын
Currently, the biggest streamers are playing VR Among US (super recent, btw). With this I mean people that easily have 20k to 40k viewers each one in any given stream!
@EndoftheBeginning17
Жыл бұрын
@@3polygons And that's not just off of Twitch, big YT streamers are too.
@3polygons
Жыл бұрын
@@EndoftheBeginning17 Yes, indeed. :)
@Charlie_the_Chair
Жыл бұрын
Zuck: this tech is revolutionary and nobody has ever seen anything like it before VR Chat from 2017: *are you sure about that?*
@austinwil5616
Жыл бұрын
Im a 2 year old VR gamer, VRChat was very skeptical to me but i decided to throw everything i thought aside and start it up, i am having the most fun I've ever had! I get to be whoever i want, whatever i want, with no judgement. VRChat has blown me away as the 1st vr experience a person should try. Its very memorable, spending time with people you just met but end up going to a VR bar, get some drinks, take a huge group photo, and relive each instant everyday and everytime.
@UnknownSquid
Жыл бұрын
You shouldn't be drinking in VR at only 2 years old! xD (Jk)
@baroquedub
Жыл бұрын
Another way to frame this is to think about it in terms of mainstream vs counterculture. There are plenty of older people who get VR, who spend time in the VRChat and who understand the true potential of Neal Stephenson's metaverse. Throughout the ages these people have been artists, musicians, punks, ravers, hippies and people like you and me, regardless of age, who cherish self-expression. As you so rightly say in your video, the mainstream doesn't understand that sense of total freedom, it finds it scary and it's only ever going to demonise those who stray from the norm. I hate to be the 53 year old wise arse who says this but it was ever thus. It's nothing to do with technology, and it's nothing new. It's just that constant battle between those who like the world to be safe and predictable, where everyone tows the line and does as they're told, versus those who don't. I'm so glad people like you are around to keep that fight going. As the song goes, the kids are alright :)
@baroquedub
Жыл бұрын
@@SkeleTonHammer For me, VRChat is what you make it. I'm not really someone who likes to join in any kind of clique and I just steer clear of those worlds. Same as in the real world, at my age I'd feel a bit weird raving with a bunch of teens. I initially didn't find what I wanted so I made my own, and then a few people happened to come by and visit and I made a few new online friends who shared my interests. All good.
@flameknight7
Жыл бұрын
VRChat is the reason most VR users still use their headsets. It's such leagues ahead of other platforms in so many ways! New users need to be shown "da wae"
@paolaanimator
Жыл бұрын
My Quest 2 headset and I use PCVR mainly for VR Chat lol
@jamilgonzaga7081
Жыл бұрын
6:38 I laughed harder than I could when it zoomed in on ugandan mickey's face LMAO Your coverage on this topic is spot on though! I miss VRChat dearly :c Also your voice is a turn on (don't pull out your pitchforks against me)
@ButImThebee
Жыл бұрын
I think VrChat is such an important experience for people. I know for myself I get a lot of people who come to me because of the amount of positivity I bring to people around me. We all have our way in Vrchat and we get to experience so many lives.
@SecretHero914
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Phia for being so honest with VR
@capri5246
Жыл бұрын
Lol I feel like you let your dad pick the avi it’s such a dad avi, but seriously it was super nice to hear his take on vr. I really really wish the older generation would get into vr. I as a 22 year old and still blow away every single time I put my quest on, and basically have an existential moment nearly every vr sesh and I’ve been playing daily. I just think the older generation would really appreciate it so much it’s literally future technology. Straight science fiction. Seriously even most vr users I meet don’t seem as exited as I’d expect! Thank you for making this video I hope it blows up because the lack of hype for a pice of technology that is so Insane. Seriously for most of my life I have been a creator of some sort, I like to make things and express myself, and vr does that better than anything. Also I loved my whole life absolutely depressed with how boring reality is and the limitations of normal reality. I can’t tell you what this vr has done for my happiness and my brain. I would go off on tangents about how depressed I was that I would watch anime and action movies and I wanted to go do that stuff so bad. And now I play gun raiders a very fast passed fps, and It scratches that itch so goooood. I then can hop into vr chat and fly around in a airplane or helicopter and spend literally hours drifting around in a car, or go to my hangout world where there is a whole community who partake if u know what I mean 🍃. So I always have someone or a group to hang out with. Or I can go into blades and sorcery and really feel the heat of battle. It’s so good for that. Idk how to explain it but, it’s like it unlocks the human form into its most raw and free form. I never have felt comfortable in reality and that was a serious problem in my life. But I feel the most me and the most comfortable when I’m in vr, I havnt felt this close to myself in a long time. And that’s super important because right before I got my vr i was struggling super hard with disphorea, and if there is anything that will make you feel like a stranger to yourself it’s that. So It’s not like, I see a bright future in vr. It’s here. I have a quest 2, a relatively lower end headset but not really lol. But even with the quest 2 and what we have now, I am beyond satisfied. I couldn’t ask for more, and I couldn’t even imagine what we have now, so the fact that we are just getting started, it has my whole soul smiling so big.
@cryingsurrogate
Жыл бұрын
Started making an album called "Metaspace", and what do you know? A week later the word "Metaverse" gets appropriated by Zuck. Suddenly a cool name became cringe by association
@glenfoxh
Жыл бұрын
Trust me, it's not your age that draws you to VRchat. I'd be in my mid 40s. Have hung out with quite a few already in my near four month long adventure in it, and there are many near my age, very much enjoying the many aspects of VRchat. But we are the one that shun conventional thinking. Many of us are old school games, that remember playing on an actual Atari and C 64. Many of us are board gamers. And some of us are developers and artists. It would not be us, to not take the chance to hop into something like VRchat. It's a bit of a crazy place, and it's wonderful for being that. When I see others talk about making things look like reality in VR, I say, go out and touch grass if you want something real to experience. To me VR opens up the possibility to do so much more than what you could ever do or see in the real world. Much like one can in a video game. But you are in it, to an extent. I have seen VRchat can be for the young and old. Seeing the young are in it, and that is not likely to change, one must take that as part of the experience of it also now. If one want to ERP, they can take it to a private world. Such as with the old saying, "Hay! Get a room." And really, anyone who is going to ERP, should take it to some place private. All in all, I'd say VRchat is not for everyone, but it should get some more positive attention than it has, as a place to visit, or stay a wile.
@tsujack
Жыл бұрын
10:30 looks like that Eiffel 65 blue song My grandpa who is old and crippled because of strokes can't really move that well and has to have help getting around outside of a scooter or wheal chair. Put a headset on him and show him the basic controls with just the head and hand sensors, he started crying because of the mobility. He couldn't switch through the world selector so I typed in a few places; In particular the planetarium.
@Rrbgameratpx4869
Жыл бұрын
awww i hope your grandpa had fun
@FrontwaysLarry
Жыл бұрын
Well put, Phia. The amount of people that even just bought their kid a Quest 2 and have said to me "I tried the Metaverse, it kind of sucked." is astounding. Just shows how little they know when they say it. Even my own close friends admit they see a few games they want to try, but they think the "gimmick" would wear off. Like, for real, we don't have anywhere else to go with gaming tech other than VR and AI. We're at near photoreal gaming at 8K now. What's the point of having that technology if we can't also choose to fully immerse ourselves in those worlds? I'm slowly trying to change some minds, as everyone seems very big on bashing XR without even having tried it in its current state, but it's an uphill battle. Anyway, great video! If anything, I'm just glad that the discussion around VR is transitioning from "do we need this?" to "when will it be cool enough?" It's cool enough now, but media outlets keep putting up that picture of Zuckerberg in Horizon Worlds and then think that entire game represents all of VR. It hurts. Lol
@starofaetherius
Жыл бұрын
I love the use of pokemon mystery dungeon sound track xD. Great video Phia!
@tylocook
Жыл бұрын
I feel like VRChat doesn't want to become super popular. Imagine the copyright and trademark nightmare if they did.
@forgottenalex
Жыл бұрын
Funny thing is, Facebook had 2 staff members that are big names in VRChat content making communities
@SecretHero914
Жыл бұрын
It’s a good thing that VR chat doesn’t belong to Metaverse
@diamantegerardo
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, You told everything right about metaverses, no mass media tells about the VRChat and others But my earliest experience of a metaverse was Second Life in 2007, That was mind blowing for me and also for computers of that era and no VR headset, It had great graphics, avatars were very customizable and it was fun to get in and chat with friends by then, Bandwidth was the bottleneck, took some time to load all the assets to render the metaverse properly in the client machine, Those were the days
@viserion5631
Жыл бұрын
there is always the pokemon mystery dungeon music in your videos, i love it
@nredsa
Жыл бұрын
still working on considering pushing the VR chat button. half of what you said scares me and the other half intrigued me. i think i will try and maybe look into how to make an avatar. that has to be very important.
@TheVirtualRealityShow
Жыл бұрын
“Do something that scares you every day" is a great quote :) give it a go.
@nredsa
Жыл бұрын
@@TheVirtualRealityShow but but but... people... they are fairly unpredictable.
@WardOfSouls
Жыл бұрын
I think there are two big reasons that VR Chat doesn't get focus in the establishment media, and while you touched on them, they really are more important than you might realize. The first is that there is no real potential for businesses to make millions in VR Chat the way that Meta was promising could be possible in Horizon. As you said, individual creators can turn a profit creating unique assets for individuals, but that's not a business model that translates to a major corporation level. It's always independent creators at essentially a cottage craft scale. Without the lure of massive profits, there's less incentive for business minded writers to cover VR Chat. Meanwhile, the more public minded writers steer away from VR Chat because it lacks the centralized security and content control that Horizon has. As you mentioned, its possible for people to use the anonymity of VR Chat to find enjoyment at other people's expense, but beyond that it's possible to use the technology for entirely consensual intimate purposes. Establishment news organizations are still very puritanical in their content, even if it's only to make sure they don't scare off advertisers. Any product that could potentially be seen as "adult oriented" is an advertising risk, even more so if it could be argued that it contributes to "adult businesses". (Yes, I'm self-censoring here on YT.) Between those two reasons, of course old media are going to avoid VR Chat, regardless of all the incredible things that are being created there and all the valuable uses it can be put to.
@strayiggytv
Жыл бұрын
You nailed it. The lack of content moderation is a killer just by itself. You can't expect mainstream journalists to Wade through the perverts and weirdos with slurs in their names to get to the fun of VRchat.
@vectors8841
Жыл бұрын
They want us to be floating corporate office drone torsos in a world where you pay $20 to do a copyrighted corporate approved emote. But the reality is that I, ( as a cat in a cow onesie ) can default dance for free on VRchat. Mark has only chains to offer.
@microbry
Жыл бұрын
52 years old, VRC fan since 2017 (even though I don't have my own headset yet) and old-school VR enthusiast since the old 90s stuff where I got my first sampling of immersion and body tracking. Zuck's Meta venture and the hype around it is just so disappointing, we need more positive coverage of VRC like this.
@jaywalkyr
Жыл бұрын
You have the most gigachad dad ever. The fact he plays vrchat alone is amazing to me. It proves there really is practically no age limit to vr, except being over 13. People hate the new EAC, but I have personally seen huge change since they added it. I’ve been crashed maybe like 3 times since the EAC update, on quest. Nothing on PCVR, but that’s normal. My advice: stop complaining about EAC. If you need a hack to talk and other stuff, go around it. There is workarounds. It’s supposed to slow people down, not protect it completely.
@BlueSparxLPs
Жыл бұрын
The biggest problem I've had with VRChat is just how difficult it is to find the numerous things you can do in it if you're not already fully familiarized with every aspect. I keep hearing about all these things you can see and do in VRChat, but I can never figure out how. Others I know have the same issue, there's just not a lot of easily accessible info online, and quite frankly VRChat's search function is complete garbage which just makes the problem worse. I can't find anything without either already knowing it exists (and by its exact name), or finding it outside of the app by luck.
@paolaanimator
Жыл бұрын
Same here. I try to search on my laptop first on popular worlds or beautiful worlds, and then I try to save or favorite these worlds so I can revisit them in VR Chat. VR Chat has so many worlds it can get overwhelming sometimes.
@BlueSparxLPs
Жыл бұрын
@@paolaanimator Basically that, yeah. I know there's lots of worlds that are basically just their own games within VRChat, but heck if I know how to find them lol. I feel like the lack of intuitive discovery has made VRChat far more underwhelming as an experience than it is to those who make it their entire lives and know like every world.
@paolaanimator
Жыл бұрын
@@BlueSparxLPs I agree. I sometimes wish the search engine can have key words to make worlds discoverable or easier to find in VR Chat. I got into VR Chat thanks to VTubers or KZitem content creators focusing on VR. People who makes videos about VR Chat and recommend which worlds to go to has helped me on finding my favorite worlds. I use PCVR so it helps to also be able to visit PC only worlds.
@ShadyWulf
Жыл бұрын
I really love how you used the PMD soundtracks throughout this video. Made me smile! ♪
@whtiequillBj
Жыл бұрын
Heyo from Second Life! I've not actually used VRChat but I do understand what is it like to be in a virtual world. I also have tried VR lightly so I do know what it is like and how impactful it is. I'm in my late 30s but am very savvy and my only real berrior to going to use VRChat is my own choice to not get a VR Headset other then my PSVR for my Playstation. This is the first video I cought of yours. Really enjoyed it keep up the good work!
@chris_is_here_oh_no
Жыл бұрын
I couldn't imagine being without VR Chat.
@liana56776
Жыл бұрын
thank you so much for trying to go under the surface level and try to talk about vrchat in a way that shows the true magic of it
@nivocz769
Жыл бұрын
I love how she hypes up VRchat soooo much for what it is....don't get me wrong im well on my way to trusted but wow...this person still makes me feel like there is much more for me to experience even if i have already done so much in vr
@Anna_Rae
Жыл бұрын
Even outside of VR, if people want a metaverse go play Final Fantasy 14. That game truly feels like another world. That game is truly something people can get lost in and find tons of new friends and socialize in a way that most other games struggle with. Hanging out with friends, customizing your house, your fashion, going to weddings and after parties, it’s all so cool. And then there’s an actual video game there too that’s very fun.
@eking7690
Жыл бұрын
"You dont know about virtual reality until you have put on the headset and have someone who is obi wan kenobi show you the way" ...This is so f'n ironic because i use an obiwan skin and show new players around to cool places any time i find out they're new.
@eking7690
Жыл бұрын
Btw, early 40s here and your dad is the real homie. He said that his friends hardly know what everything is vr wise. As people tend to get older, they get stuck in their ways or just dont care about new things or advancements. People get floored when i tell them my age in VRChat. Its good to see other OGs get it :)
@HoshPak
Жыл бұрын
*This is a long post where I share my story with VR and how it's starting to make ripples in my personal live. Please beware!* I've had this talk with my mom, several times now. When I told her that I've bought a headset she was visually frightened. She revealed her worries about my well-being after she spent hours on the news trying to figure out what her son is heading into. Totally misguided, our first couple conversations have been rocky, to say the least... But as soon as I showed her pictures and videos about my adventures, especially going to VR nightclubs playing some of her favorite genres, she quickly let go of her reservations and opened up to the possibilities. I've been building my own body trackers thanks to SlimeVR. It got me into a situation where I get to learn a whole lot about DIY culture and designing your own products, effectively learning skills that will become useful to future job offerings (I'm talking about 3D-modelling and rapid prototyping using 3D-printers). My mom has seen a couple of pictures while assembling the trackers. I've dedicated 2 weeks of vacation solely to building a set of 8 trackers. Seeing them work in VR after this much physical labor has been the greatest pay-off in this entire year. My mom was thrilled to see something I've made with my own hands working in VR. And it would only spiral up further, the moment I told her I've been casted to partake as a dancer for an actual music video. I was earning real life money with what I'm doing... That was her final proof that what I'm doing is not just escapism. And now, we actually had a talk about our plans for new year's eve and she was totally okay with me stating I might spend my time in VR celebrating with my friends, this time around. She was absolutely okay with that... I couldn't believe it. So yeah, the whole issue with the Metaverse, as I see it, is lack of common ground. The older generations only rely on external sources to understand what it's about and they certainly don't do a great job at that, focusing only on stock market... I don't understand why everything has to be about money with boomers. You're seeing it in my personal story. Once I've proven there's money to be made, things took a major U-turn. I'm kind of disgusted by how something I truly enjoy doing is reduced to a mere revenue stream by people who have no grasp of the technology. However, seeing how I can change people's opinion by giving them a first-hand look at VR there's definitely a shimmer of hope. Even at work my interests have come around so that I've been handed an opportunity to introduce VR into classrooms. I've set up the very first school in our vicinity to have 2 absolutely ballin' editing workstations as well as VR headsets. I'm really looking forward to see this project progressing and having a hand in this entire process. It's a small step towards shaping the future of education and I'm so excited about it. Phia, if you read this I would like to thank you! If it wasn't for you and Thrill to host that event at TubeVR in March this year, this journey of mine may never had come to be. I've become more outgoing as a person, learned to let people into my life again and became confident in speaking English, more than ever before. I've been pushing my boundaries these almost 9 months and it had an unbelievably huge impact on me after dealing with a lot of hardship, the year before. I feel like my life has snapped back into a balanced state. Again, thank you for being my beacon in these rough times. The shining ray of light guiding me back to the shores, safely. (I hope this doesn't sound too poetic, lol xD) Would love to meet you again in VR, someday. Much love, Stef (HoshPak)
@gebibaboy5212
Жыл бұрын
nice
@SpoopyChicken
Жыл бұрын
The pokemon mystery dungeon music really made this more epic than I expected going into it.
@furofu
Жыл бұрын
Despite what anyone days, it's always the community that gets it's way. Companies don't understand that, they just think they do. But these companies are run by adults stuck in their own time, adults who have never once, as you've said, even put on a headset before and really experienced virtual reality. They only understand business and money. The metaverse is already here, It's been here on our phones and through the internet in 2D, it's just getting an upgrade. The metaverse will grow, there's no stopping it. VRchat is the perfect "metaverse" game, world, app, lifestyle, whatever you may think of it as. It quite litterally is capable of everything you could ever dream of! In fact, just add a money system to purchase exclusive official in game items that don't affect the actual gameplay and free to play nauture, then a few more rules to keep things slightly cleaner and the only thing holding back VRchat from being any more immersive is the technology we have to run it and the updates they push out. VRchat will forever grow because the community will forever like it, and if you don't believe me look up any old game or tv show that's still around today. Media only survives because of a community of people who enjoy it. Most people enjoy VR chat, and no matter what these big tech companies think. VRchat will only continue to grow whether Zucky Zuck supports it or not. All we need from them is the tech, we'll do the rest. Your channel will probably get a head start given you're the "Virtual Reality Show" so in a few years I wouldn't be surprised if I suddenly saw you on the news! Thank you for being a virtual news outlet for my favorite virtual escape. My favorite virtual world qvq
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