The world is a dangerous place, and this is a dangerous race. It's also one of the most incredible, amazing things I've ever seen in my life. I hope I have the chance to see it again soon.
@kelliefan1017
15 жыл бұрын
Yes I have heard of that, and when you drive down the road do you think that you might die because a simi truck comes and crushes your car? I have been around horses all my life. Does a horse know that when he is running in the pasture that he might fall and break a leg or his neck? IF THE HORSES DIDNT WANT TO GO DOWN THE HILL THEY WOULDNT GO! I was at the top last year and watched the race from up there, and it was amazing! The horses were lunging forward and ready to go.
@queenquadessa
16 жыл бұрын
Absolutely...How could anybody who has kind feelings toward any animal at all allow this to happen? It's outrageous.
@nmelkhunter1
11 жыл бұрын
Lastly, before you jump on the typo for the word wrote, I realize I misspelled it.
@spidez8407
16 жыл бұрын
Thats cool i have a buddy from germany that came to visit the pine ridge indian reservation for a vacation he was cool. We hardly understood each other but yeah he was a good man.
@choochoolewis
12 жыл бұрын
just makes me want to cry
@dingleberrys09
13 жыл бұрын
@SaddleNoSturrups Well, take a look at the way their legs are built. The front set of knees goes forward, and the other set bends outwards. A perfect design for strenuous maneuvers. Of course there can be random missteps or accidents, so it's not something I would like to do. But I do understand your point.
@nmelkhunter1
11 жыл бұрын
Nice langauge. Your Mom must be really proud of you.
@kelliefan1017
16 жыл бұрын
ok for one what was the guys name that you are talking about?
@kelliefan1017
16 жыл бұрын
Ok tell me how they are forced down the hill?
@xxassessment
17 жыл бұрын
Shows how much you know in general. When properly ridden the rider reaches equilibrium considerably reducing the stress, the horse uses it's haunches to take more weight and basically it acts as a motor which over time strenghtens the entire horse. Eventing and jumping horses are chosen selectively for conformation which puts less strain on joints and their willingness-(continued)
@snakemast66
12 жыл бұрын
also these are lakota ponies which are WAY more swift, agile and powerful than most other horses in the world like people were able to actually hang on the neck and fire arrows at each other without harm!
@itswafflebear8680
12 жыл бұрын
hell ya
@kelliefan1017
15 жыл бұрын
The gun is only to know that the race starts.
@kelliefan1017
15 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by " shows how much you know"? I have been around horses just as long.
@PeterN109
15 жыл бұрын
Great. Fabulous. Brave riders. Good sport.
@kelliefan1017
16 жыл бұрын
They are doing it because they are having fun. I have went to this all my life an this was the first year that I went to the top of the hill to watch. An before they fire the gun they do a prayer an the honor song. An when they were doing that the horses were going nuts. An the night before that when they were doing the honor song they were lunging foward want to go down the hill. So the horses want to do it. They are not forced down the hill when the riders are obviously trying to hold them.
@Tiila
17 жыл бұрын
its things like this that really make me made. not only do these people beat the heck out of the horses, but they really dont care enough about the to keep them from racing down the steepest hill they can find. People like this and all those watching and enjoying should swich lives with these horses, i'll bet any mony that after a couple of races like that, they'll either be dead, or to ashamed to ever show their faces again. Either way we win
@kelliefan1017
15 жыл бұрын
Just because you whip a horse doesnt mean that its going to go. So you really cant force a horse to do something.
@unedentified
16 жыл бұрын
Me too, i completely agree
@kelliefan1017
16 жыл бұрын
ok do you even live in omak. because i do. and the horses are not forced down the hill!
@kelliefan1017
16 жыл бұрын
If the horses did not want to go down the hill then they wouldnt go down the hill. An so if I am tapping my barrel horse on the butt to try to get him in the arena then I am "forcing" my horse to barrel race?
@kelliefan1017
16 жыл бұрын
The horses would still go, even without a rider.
@snoopy8121
11 жыл бұрын
this is youtube not school...
@kelliefan1017
16 жыл бұрын
ok just to let you know. this is not abuse. ok i live in omak, and i watch it every year. and it is not cruel.
@kelliefan1017
16 жыл бұрын
An Its not a herd instict that makes them go. Cause when they are getting ready to start the horses are lunging forward! An it takes all the power in the riders to hold them back! An why do you say im a cruel owner/trainer!
@kelliefan1017
15 жыл бұрын
How are they being cruel?
@kelliefan1017
15 жыл бұрын
Its true if a horse didnt want to do it then they would stop. The horses love what they do.
@snakemast66
12 жыл бұрын
IKR! people should educate themselves before making comments!
@kelliefan1017
16 жыл бұрын
excuse me i think that you need to get you facts straight. the wall street journal is in from NY and we are for m washington state. my parents were half owners in this horse. this horse was very much loved and cared for and we were very devistated when we had to put him down.he was not "drug" into the trailer.he was packed by at least 15 people he was seen by 2 vets. in which he was diagnosed and was transfered and put to sleep.and he is missed bery very much. so get you facts straight.
@berylkoenen4542
4 жыл бұрын
I,m ashambed to say I saw that in Omack The horses DONT want to do this!
@h0lly1210
16 жыл бұрын
this is animal cruelety. i just hot the April 2008 issue of horse illustrated and theres an article about how cruel this is.
@janetindall
13 жыл бұрын
Words can't describe how angry this makes me! Anyone who would force their horse to do this doesn't deserve to own one! It's Cruel and totally ignorant!!
@kelliefan1017
15 жыл бұрын
Why shouldnt the own horses?
@Craziness714
16 жыл бұрын
That's a fairly stupid comment. If you are riding and the horse doesn't want to pick up canter, you can still make the horse pick up canter. He won't enjoy it too much, but he'll do it with enough urging. Just because the horse doesn't want to do something doesn't mean you cannot get him to do it.
@feioo
16 жыл бұрын
karos, you say that normal racing is worse because two horses per week break down at the track. If those stats are correct (I didn't check), that means that out of the thousands of races a year, out of the tens of thousands of horses that race, just over 100 horses a year die. Bad, yes, but that's less than 1%. However, there are only four suicide races a year. From the videos, I'm guessing about 50 horses participate? I hear roughly 5 are injured each year - that's 10%. 2 die - 4%. Worse.
@kelliefan1017
16 жыл бұрын
IF the horse did not want to do it then it wouldnt do it.
@XArabHunterX
16 жыл бұрын
Why do you lie about who you are on KZitem KillFan1017? Your profile sais your 27yo, but you say your 15yo. Thats ilegal, did you do it sou you could watch restricted films? Mabby of horses being slaughtered?
@kelliefan1017
16 жыл бұрын
I understan Truce (:
@dingleberrys09
13 жыл бұрын
@dingleberrys09 oh and the only reason people are labeling this as animal cruelty is because its labled as "Suicide Race". now imagine it was labeled "All terrain horse racing". bad thoughts wouldnt come up with that name now would it?
@fromtribeofgad
13 жыл бұрын
amazing....all these folk talkin about how cruel they are to their horses and never once do they the think about all the wicked,cruel,and evil things they have done to human beings. more affection for animals than humans... sickening!
@XArabHunterX
16 жыл бұрын
Actualy it is illegal. Some of the videos are for raited MA only, and that means not for children. When you sign up on YT you eter into a legaly binding contract saying that you are old enough to watch MA videos. But when you lie about your age you void the contract and canbe kicked off if they find out. Because they can be sued for alowing a minor to watch MA videos.
@kelliefan1017
15 жыл бұрын
The horses are doing this because they love what they are doing. If they didnt want to go down the hill then they wouldnt go down the hill. And yes they can see whats ahead of them. We put our horses out in the mountains in the summer and fall and when I was little my mom and dad had to put me on a mare of ours bareback with nothing on and she took me to the bottom. ( We were taking the horses home for the winter ) And I was just fine.
@JessicaBeeboop
15 жыл бұрын
i meant wouldnt
@TheWeasleyBrothers
13 жыл бұрын
Holy fuck this is sad. Poor horses.
@kelliefan1017
15 жыл бұрын
They arent forcing the horses to do anything. If the horses didnt want to go down the hill then they would go down the hill.
@kelliefan1017
16 жыл бұрын
Its not illegal. People do it all the time. I am 15.
@lilbluependragon
16 жыл бұрын
This is something I want to see for myself. Everyone says these horses are FORCED downhill, how do you FORCE a horse? It would be an awesome sight to see just a wild herd of horses run tackle that hill, granted they would probably be going much slower! I am just one to not believe things I hear, and interprete them for myself.
@kelliefan1017
16 жыл бұрын
It doesnt draw blood when they whip them! If the horses didnt want to do it then they wouldnt.
@ilikeponiees
13 жыл бұрын
@garretsgold379 steep*
@vinlee12
16 жыл бұрын
and the ones that died in the 3 day eventing last weekend shall we stop all horse events in all our horse lives, there are those that break a leg out on the trail do we stop doing it??? the statistics for this race are lower than any other event we do with horses
@kelliefan1017
16 жыл бұрын
ok i live here and what is disgusting about it. i will tell you something. THE HORSES ARE NOT FORCED OFF THE HILL!
@snakemast66
12 жыл бұрын
guys this is tradition that has been going on for years! these people are starved, drained and have no money! they have to do this for profit or both them and the horse would die anyway! maybe before making comments about how "bad" it is educate yourself first as there may be a good reason for it!
@eventerjazz6
16 жыл бұрын
the horses "finish" the race because they are herd animals and are certain that there is some impending danger that they must escape from. It's not because they enjoy it, it's because they are terrified. I don't think this is a sport horses "enjoy" participating in.
@kelliefan1017
15 жыл бұрын
No they arent following commands of there owner. They are doing this because they love it. I was at the top of the hill this year during the race and those guys were using all of there energy trying to hold there horses back. So dont tell me that these horses are doing this just because they are following commands. And we put horses out it the mountains in the spring. And we take our horses down hills just as steep or steeper.
@0714Ginny
10 жыл бұрын
People saying this is cruelty need a bit of an education. This is a NATIVE AMERICAN TRADITION. These kids ride their horses up and down buttes and hills from before they can walk. These horses are absolutely USED to this. I live on an Indian reservation. Before you make judgments, SEEK knowledge. Do you realize that in Mongolia there are little ponies that travel hundreds of miles in sub-zero temps ROUTINELY??? There are other cultures out there besides your own! Animals are adaptable. Your pony might not be able to do this, but THESE ponies can.
@msplinsangel3726
7 жыл бұрын
0714Ginny i dont give a shit if its a tradition or not this is fucking dumb and horses can die from this
@kelliefan1017
15 жыл бұрын
Well there are deaths in any equine sports not just this event. And if you think that this hill is to hard for the horses then you really dont know much about them
@JessicaBeeboop
15 жыл бұрын
i meant heck
@xxassessment
17 жыл бұрын
It is well known that most horses enjoy the feeling of being suspended in mid-air-watch them buck, rear, watch their expressions. If they are not designed to jump, even when properly conditioned, how is it I know a 24 year old competitive in 4'6 showjumping, a 35 year old packing riders up to 3'? How can horses in the wild travel 30 miles a day, galloping, jumping on rough terrain?
@ChristinaTrottier
16 жыл бұрын
well then you better close your eyes...or maybe find a different video to watch!
@WestleyThe
14 жыл бұрын
@SilverMoonDew ive ran down that hill before, people do it all the time. and seriosly. not everyhorse that rides down that hill dies. 15 in the last 25 years or so have broken a leg and had to be put down. horses die in the wild too
@kelliefan1017
16 жыл бұрын
why should we be ashamed?
@kelliefan1017
16 жыл бұрын
they are not forcing the horses down the hill. and so i really dont see how its cruel.
@kelliefan1017
16 жыл бұрын
Wild horses run down hills like this in the wild. An the horses are not forced down the hill.
@LovingMyBreyers
12 жыл бұрын
that is crule i love horses and i know thats crule!
@nmelkhunter1
11 жыл бұрын
Really?
@SaddleNoSturrups
13 жыл бұрын
@dingleberrys09 'Least you're not one of those people who keep throwing insults. >.< I dunno. I never liked this race from the first time I saw it here on YT. I was taught that even trotting a horse quickly down a hill is dangerous.
@Gingagirl
16 жыл бұрын
I can easily call this animal cruelty
@dingleberrys09
13 жыл бұрын
@SaddleNoSturrups Naah, im not THAT hardheaded. lol. It is dangerous for an unexperienced horse OR rider. Your teaching was on the safer side. However you've got to remember this used to happen on a daily basis, during wars, during raids, during simply..well...travel.
@blackmagik720
16 жыл бұрын
wow. I could go on for hours about every thing that is wrong with this video. But i woulnt because any one with common sence should see the pure abuse that is in this sport.
@Rokynutz
16 жыл бұрын
i support this event(not a sport)in every way possible. do some research, find some stats on this event. riders in the end get the worst of it. every so often a horse and rider go over. so its not only the damn horse getting hurt. i know of a horse personally that has went over 3 times and still loves to train and do the race. LONG LIVE PARTYBOY
@AnimeFreakErica
15 жыл бұрын
Wow why would you want to do that to a horse. I know I woulkd never treat my horse like that. How cruel
@kaisenji
15 жыл бұрын
I know 3 day eventers, jumpers, and cross country folks as well as western riders. You don't take backyard lawn art to such events or even races like this. But I see the question still is unanswered: Has anyone interviewed the Natives on this issue? Let us ask the tribe first before assuming what we see is the result of untrained, unworked horses are ridden.
@tripconcept
17 жыл бұрын
This is sick. These horses have such high chances of serious injury....they call the hill they ride down "the crash zone". It's just cruel. I hope these horses kick their owners in the teeth.
@susiebell86
16 жыл бұрын
horses train for this event, a well trained horse will (usually) do whats asked of it, theres nothin natural about a dressage canter plie, but horses still do it.I'm sure we can all guess what they'd do without a rider when the gun went off- find grass!We all have special bonds with our hroses n they trust us 2 no whats best, we get them past "killer" plastic bags & over jumps they dont think they can make - so r they running coz they think its safe or because they trust us to no whats safe?
@nmelkhunter1
11 жыл бұрын
Then why do you abbreviate words and forget to capitalize "I"? The last part of what you wote shows you can't keep your emotions in check and also shows your thought process is very limited, thus my remark about a limited vocabulary. Have a great day.
@kelliefan1017
16 жыл бұрын
for god sake! this is not horse abuse!
@kelliefan1017
16 жыл бұрын
This is not a cruel race. The horses love what they are doing! If they didnt then they wouldnt go down the hill. An they are not forced.
@eventerjazz6
16 жыл бұрын
Yes, horse racing can be cruel as well, but because of it's structure it is less so than the suicide race. This seems to be a race without rules, no governing body, nothing to support the well-being of the beautiful 4 legged participants. The track stewards at races review the race tapes to detect animal cruelty within the race and penalize those involved as they see fit. I have an ex-racer and am so thankful that he was a racer in regular flat racing, rather than something this disgusting.
@SaddleNoSturrups
13 жыл бұрын
@dingleberrys09 Horses may be built for going up & down hills, but not at that speed. It puts a lot of strain of their legs and it hurts them. Why don't you go and try running down a hill this steep at full speed with your body weight poised forward, then tell me it isn't cruel and it doesn't hurt them.
@kelliefan1017
16 жыл бұрын
Ok I am all for this race. An the horses do think its fun. If they didnt enjoy it then they would go when the gun shot. An dont tell me they are doing it cause the gun scared them, or they are following each other. Cause they are not. They are trained for this.
@zela212tonks
14 жыл бұрын
@12jamiecool i Know what u mean im from okanogan so these are hurtfull but i do not like the horses to be injured
@kelliefan1017
16 жыл бұрын
Ok why dont you go interview one of the riders, an ask them if they are only following. Oh an if they are forced then how come when they are about to start, an they do the honor song the horses are lunging forward an trying to take of???? Just because they have herd instict doesnt meen that they follow each other! I own plenty of horses. An just because one horse takes off to the other end of the paststur. They dont all follow. They stay!
@bustaphatty
14 жыл бұрын
woot go USA UUUUU SSSSS AAAA
@TrishoftheFunk
16 жыл бұрын
"i support this event(not a sport)in every way possible. do some research, find some stats on this event. riders in the end get the worst of it. every so often a horse and rider go over. so its not only the damn horse getting hurt. " That may be the case, however, that's on the rider's own accord. The horses had no say in this, I'm sure plunging to their own death is not their idea of "fun". I think this event is cruel, and I doubt anything that anyone says will change my mind. >:\
@horsesloveme12345678
15 жыл бұрын
you ppl dont now anythin this stuff is very dangerous how would you like it if you hyad to carry a rider and run down like that just think a little bit
@xxassessment
17 жыл бұрын
I have pictures to prove almost anything is violent. Through conditioning and proper riding the horse is taught to carry the rider on it's back muscles, not the spine, thus strenghening the horse and reducing impact on a body that is already designed to be used roughly in the wild. If you knew anything about horses then you would know body language at least and the respected eventing horses show signs of alertness and relaxation from the endorphins released. =c=
@kelliefan1017
16 жыл бұрын
Well then wny do we even ride horses. Because even walking your horse out in the pasture, they could get hurt. So you are taking a risk when you are doing anything with horses.
@kelliefan1017
15 жыл бұрын
Why is it horrible?
@kelliefan1017
16 жыл бұрын
good i made my point.
@SmartAsAggie
16 жыл бұрын
this is animal cruelety for sure. i read the article in horse illustrated and its appaling people are doing such horrible things and think it is okay. everyone who owns one of these horses, rides them, and watches should be ashamed!
@XArabHunterX
16 жыл бұрын
You even injured your owen horse while beating him to the finish line at the 2008 NBHA finals. If that dosnt say that you dont care about horses than I dont know what dose. I bet you feed them breed to.
@XArabHunterX
16 жыл бұрын
You knew the ground/footing sucked and you maid him runn anyway. It was your choice to put you horse in danger or not! And you chose to put him in danger. And for what? A ribbon? What dose WSU stand for? "We Suck University". And yeah, who wouldnt give there horse time off after injuring him.
@kelliefan1017
15 жыл бұрын
It is a sport its called equestrian! It does nothing to a horses legs! And thats why they have vet checks before and after each heat! And they do care about the horses!
@kelliefan1017
16 жыл бұрын
ok i dont agree with you. how is it cruel?
@kelliefan1017
16 жыл бұрын
okay truce.
@kelliefan1017
15 жыл бұрын
You must know nothing about horses then! Because just because you kick or whip a horse doesnt mean they are GOING TO MOVE!!! Why cant you people just see that already!!! Its just like if somebody was beating the crap out of us to do something, and we dont! So why cant you seem to get the fact that horses dont do something that they dont want to do!
@SarahVstheClown
17 жыл бұрын
idiocy. I refuse to run my horse down a cliff at full gallop, forcing 40% more of their weight than their used to on their front legs, then make him somersault down a hillside, and gallop him through a river. These people shouldn't be allowed anywhere near any animal.
@kelliefan1017
16 жыл бұрын
Actually the horses do love what they are doing. Cause if they didnt then they wouldnt go down the hill. An yes actually I don own animals. I own an train barrel horses! An why would you say such a rude thing like that!
@Craziness714
16 жыл бұрын
Sure, if you walk a horse in a pasture, injury is possible. But if you are leading correctly and have knowledge of horses this is a fairly small chance. And the chance of the animal dying is even smaller! Even in sports like showjumping, the chance of a death is small, as long as it is not overdone. The fact that someone would want to purposely put their horse in a race that could quite possibly result in the death of the horse and almost certainly injury is beyond me.
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