For the money I honestly prefer the LS50 Metas. You can also get a pretty good discount on them during the holiday season which makes them even more appealing.
@Polyfusia
7 ай бұрын
Hurray! More speaker reviews! Triangle, Dali, all the big players
@somebodyintheworld5036
5 ай бұрын
I thought these were cool, so I tried to see if I could order them. Their 3000 dollars... I like how the most replayed/scrubbed to location on the video is the "cheap" setup. Which I just wanna point out, that cheap setup costs more than all my current peripherals for my computer.
@ErinsAudioCorner
7 ай бұрын
Oh, a shoutout for me!? Thanks man! 😊
@SpiritualPsychotherapyServices
6 ай бұрын
😮
@pierremiyamoto4490
4 күн бұрын
Your welcome 🤗
@hydroponicgard
7 ай бұрын
Me: Oh cool sperkers! >3000$ Me: Oh ok no thanks I am not feeling like selling my liver.
@zxSwifty
7 ай бұрын
$3000 is cheap for speakers
@ANiCKiN
7 ай бұрын
@@zxSwifty Yeah if your IQ is 50
@RyuFelinshire
7 ай бұрын
@@zxSwifty It's also expensive for speakers, because Speakers go everywhere from terrible crap for a couple dollars to insane hundreds of thousands of dollars.
@Void.e
7 ай бұрын
@@zxSwiftyif you're a business lol
@wreagfe
7 ай бұрын
What kind of dollars are that? In Europe they are EUR 1,800.- which is about USD2k
@xdoctorblindx
7 ай бұрын
I love that the Dysons are still hanging in the background lol.
@khoi83
6 ай бұрын
Those suckers xD
@JosephWithaG
2 ай бұрын
@@khoi83 Dunno if I should try them though. Crin said that they blow.
@ThibautMahringer
7 ай бұрын
I always dreamed of you reviewing speakers
@hammer313
7 ай бұрын
if you can't use the speakers without an app, it's absolutely certain at some time in the future they will be unusable either because the company goes out of business, or the company decides it's too expensive to keep updating the app to support them. 100% certainty. also on the cards is some feature advertised on the box that used to work will be deliberately disabled, and maybe some features become a monthly subscription. this is all certain to happen based on it happening to so many cloud connected devices and even cars.
@b0nz1official
6 ай бұрын
Very good point. Especially since a good speaker itself could easily be used for decades.
@Beusta
7 ай бұрын
Really appreciate you reviewing these and other speakers in the future!
@thebrotatochip5469
7 ай бұрын
Will the Moondrop Blessing 3 Dusk x Crinacle be outdated by the time it comes out?
@MattBorchert
7 ай бұрын
In the US, these MRSP at $2500, and you can routinely find them for ~$2000 during KEF sales. The value prop changes quite a bit at that point, so it's worth being mindful of.
@hugevibez
6 ай бұрын
They go for around 2000 eur in western europe as well, slightly overpriced maybe but definitely not outrageous.
@jakebrown3822
6 ай бұрын
Especially considering passive Meta's retail at about $1400. Accessories4Less have LS50 WIIs for $1599 refurbed. That's a killer deal.
@S.M.A.Batista
7 ай бұрын
I have had those on my radar for years. Okay. You convinced me. Shop around I have seen these as open box to less the half MSRP.
@MuhammadKharismawan
6 ай бұрын
I bought an LSX on new years and with it and a sub, it basically killed any desire for me to buy any more headphone and IEMs, it make me rethink my priority with just how far I feel it's better than even my kilobucks IEMs and Headphones. They have way, way less usage time with the KEF around now. If you can afford to use speakers at your home, a good speaker is the best upgrade you can get in this hobby IMO, completely different experience with comparable/ better performance to same priced cans.
@Simon-jd3fz
7 ай бұрын
I switched to Buchardt A500 after LS50 WII two years ago and I love it so far
@vivynrekha5680
6 ай бұрын
Can you give a short review of both and mention the sound tuning difference you found in your use case scenario please?
@DannyGraves1775
7 ай бұрын
3k for a system that requires two apps and two accounts? I'll go with a wired setup instead, save myself the PITA of having to write my long AF Google password in the app whenever it arbitrarily chooses to log me out (which in Google's case is almost every damn month).
@wreagfe
7 ай бұрын
I've never used them wireless anyways, 1. because they wouldn't connect properly consistently, and 2. because wired gives you the full whatever high bitrate you won't hear anyways but pay for in Qobuz etc. you don't get wireless.
@rucdoc
7 ай бұрын
You'd need really big ears to fit those inside
@mcsenny4793
7 ай бұрын
So happy to see you sending some traction over to Erin!
@michaelgeorge5436
7 ай бұрын
Nice shout out to Erin. He is awesome
@LucaTheStar
7 ай бұрын
7:32 Just when I thought that I couldn't respect Crinacle any more than I already do he goes and shows us that he listens to Jacob Collier. My goodness.
@timliu6870
6 ай бұрын
For the casuals, subwoofer is like boobs. Any boob is better than no boob. So I always recommend 2.1 system for the casuals. just pick one you can afford and you'll be a happy man.
@xXm33masterBadXx
7 ай бұрын
Not going to lie, I feel like kef is good at marketing, but not speaking lol
@CaveyMoth
6 ай бұрын
I love the Wireless II. The integrated digital processing might be a weakness in some aspects, but I love the amount of customization that it provides. I often adjust audio settings depending on the time of day that I'm listening. And I love that it has both low-pass and high-pass filters for the subwoofer output. It makes it a lot easier to couple them with a subwoofer, which is a necessity. There is also the built-in phase correction, which improves the time arrival characteristics of the coaxial driver for higher sound quality... It's much better than switches on the back of a speaker. The biggest weak point ironically, though, is the lack of control when it comes to simple things like volume. The bundled remote has very poor directionality, forcing you to aim directly at the main speaker...and the volume control is painfully slow, not to mention unresponsive. It's easier to control the volume using my TV's remote via eARC. Heck, my low cost powered Klipsch speakers have a better remote control, and at least have an indicator ON THE FRONT instead of on top where you can't see it. I hate having to pull out my phone to know what volume level the speakers are at... I definitely won't complain about the sound quality. Thanks to the class A amplification of the tweeters, there is no audible hiss from them whatsoever. They get reasonably loud, and do have some very nice, clean bass when listened to in a medium to small room. They are best used in near-field, of course. But the flat in-room response leads to them sounding neutral and clean even if you are across the room. That's the biggest advantage of the coaxial driver. You will want to give them some toe-in, though. If you have them pointed straight forward like at 10:35 in this video, you're doing them a disservice. The treble will sound a little bit smoothed over, there will be less soundstage depth, and the center image will be diffuse. Just turn them in 10-15 degrees. And please put them on speaker stands, jeez. These aren't cheapo computer speakers from the 90's. You're going to have sound reflections from your desk messing up the frequency response. Ideally, the center of the driver should be at ear height, or aimed at ear height if they are angled. (They seem to sound better if they are angled downward slightly...I don't know why...maybe it's because of the angle of my ear canals...oh, well). I hacked some speaker wall mounts and desk-mounted computer monitor stands together to create height and angle adjustable speaker stands.
@larsvivendi6204
7 ай бұрын
I hope you didnt test em like shown in 10:37, sitting plain on the desk at this height. When got my pair decent stands and some iso acoustic pucks - magic happened. :)
@EastPlanet
7 ай бұрын
$3k haha. This hobby is SO pricey. Sighhh. Those JBL's tho...
@DK83650
7 ай бұрын
Still waiting for Softears Studio 4 review…
@Motymott99
7 ай бұрын
ls50 cannot be copmared to neirfield montiros , they play different roles , its not 100 % true that those nearfield systems you have suggested better for different places ,like a saloon , etc... for desktop it might be true .
@arianmeidow420
7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review, looking forward for more speaker reviews! I think you nailed your review, basically focusing on the lack of bass and also explaining it with the speaker's size. Owning a couple of LS50 Metasmin a home theater setup, I can agree. What I don't get is the comparison to other setups including a subwoofer to compensate for the lack of bass. There's the KC62 subwoofer, also from KEF, which you can add to the system and it would end up in a fair comparison. Of course, it doesn't make things cheaper, but with KEF you you're not going for the bargain to begin with. It's then only fair to compare that to other 2.1 systems that are cheaper, but comparing 2.0 vs 2.1 is just... misleading?
@impuls60
7 ай бұрын
3000usd just to stream lol. Why have we accepted that streaming have to be so expensive. The tech to do it have become plentiful and cheap now.
@OhhGeeskii
7 ай бұрын
Stream? These are made for music
@TomosFlynn
7 ай бұрын
Hey Crin, Enjoyable video but as the room and placement of speakers are just as important as the speakers themselves it would be quite important to mention the listening environment you tested in. Room size, room treatment and positioning etc. are all very important. The only shot I saw was of the speakers either side of a monitor on a desk, and if this was the testing setup... it would likely sound much worse than on speaker stands, spaced further apart without a monitor or tv in between. Looking to the wider audiophile community, I've not seen anyone recommending these as desk speakers.
@genkifd
6 ай бұрын
agree speakers setup is far harder than any headphone, iem, etc. even reading and experimenting on speaker locations can take weeks as each speaker responds differently to the listening room. The needs also be treated as in most people's home the listenign room is full of hard surfaces which create a very reflective room. hearing reflections isnt ideal. even some youtube reviewers have next to no treatments.
@DjBunito
7 ай бұрын
If you ever get a pair of the Genelec The Ones, i think you can safely say to yourself that you reached the endgame in the speaker world. I recently was able to hear a pair of 8351b in near-field and far-field listening positions, calibrated with the GLM kit, and the sound was just drool worthy. If you can swing a subwoofer from them aswell, i think you are set for years to come.
@KernelFault
7 ай бұрын
GLM changes everything. You can cal your speakers and optimize your listening room.
@hypnoz7871
7 ай бұрын
For near field yes, Genelec if state of the art. But far field lol, they can't compete with Neumann KH420. These thing will shake your entire house with reference sound.
@KernelFault
7 ай бұрын
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@Azzy_Mazzy
4 ай бұрын
@@KernelFault nothing amazing about that software except that its in the speaker itself, it locks you in to their overpriced subwoofers and is worse than Dirac BC and the new dirac ART
@tinosiocon
7 ай бұрын
Also buying speakers second hand is not really an issue. so there's a better and cheaper value out there always.
@theotherloco
7 ай бұрын
Hi, I have the kef wireless 2 for around 1 year. I’m very happy and satisfied. They are pretty pricey but i didn’t regret my purchase at all.
@MayankJairaj
7 ай бұрын
thanks crin but ill be sticking to my 50$ iems
@akira_rtt
7 ай бұрын
As an owner of KEF products myself, there's also a concern around their active speakers thats not always mentioned: not all kef products are reliable. Active speakers and some of the Q line A good alternative for the ls50 II is also a Kef R3, which measure incredibly well but are passive
@vkjs2
6 ай бұрын
I got the ls50 Meta’s in a bundle with the Naim Uniti Atom. That would solve all of these setup issues (and it did), and leads to a wonderful experience overall. I paid ~£3000 at the time I believe. Specifically got them as I have a pair of Barefoot 01’s which do everything you could ask for in a near to midfield monitor, but are much harder to live with. I wanted something that wouldn’t ask for my attention - something that would just be musical in its presentation, and not something that goes down to 8Hz or the like. It does that really well and the Naim system really makes them shine.
@arpadikuma
7 ай бұрын
I've owned the KEF R300 for over a decade now. Back then, I bought them with my then-girlfriend who was a professional orchestra violinist. We went to the hifi store to listen to a bunch of different KEF and B&W speakers on a Denon setup close to the one I had at home. The original LS50 were among them, brand-new at the time, and even I found them to sound worse at a similar price to the R300. But these new LS50W and esp the II with the wireless features and being active and all, it sure is kind of tempting... ok just heard the MSRP lol, sticking with the R300 and my setup for sure. Oh and while they were british, aren't they chinese owned for a while now?
@RXP91
7 ай бұрын
I've got the R300, amazing speakers for the price/size. The upgraded R3's are cheaper & measure pretty well too.
@PerfectorZY
7 ай бұрын
For a living room, I'd go for the bigger LS60s, they are 7k normally, but I saw them for 5k last holiday season. They are towers, you don't need a sub, and from all the reviews I've heard they have a special ability to basically make anywhere you want to sit (within reason, the sweet spot is massive). I think it's much better for having others over and everyone able to listen and enjoy.
@seancreighton4393
7 ай бұрын
Something you missed with your review is that the demographic buying this speaker probably cares a lot about aesthetic more than sound and that's where these really shine. Being conveniently wireless and beautiful, these are probably a great option for premium living room and desk setups. Also it would have made a lot more sense to test them with a sub, as anyone who cares about sound would factor in using a sub with their bookshelf speakers, and you compared it to other options with subs.
@crin
7 ай бұрын
7:23 9:56
@crin
7 ай бұрын
As for adding a sub, the whole point was that you could get cheaper options that come bundled with a sub. Sure, I could compare the LS50W2 with a sub against the competition, but then the MSRP of that setup would be closer to $5,000... in which case it gets SEVERELY outclassed by similarly priced 3-ways or even towers.
@seancreighton4393
7 ай бұрын
@@crinThanks for the reply, I understand your reasoning but it still would have been nice to get your thoughts on the kef's with a sub for those in the market.
@SquishyTushy
6 ай бұрын
Hi there! Thank you so much for sharing this video! It was exactly what I needed - so honest and informative. I was initially considering getting Kef speakers, though not the exact ones featured, but your insights led me to do some more research. After figuring out what I truly want in my audio setup, I've decided to go with a MartinLogan setup instead. Your guidance really made a difference in my decision. Cheers!
@fadedlogic1
7 ай бұрын
Have these in my living room and they are aesthetically much easier on the eyes than a sound bar, fill the room with sound (12' ceilings), as mentioned in the comments no need to switch seats for the best listening spot; the entire couch is the best listening spot. I only miss the bass on some movies but it is more than adequate for our purposes. The cost and the DREADFUL remote it comes with are the only drawbacks for me.
@myengacademia
7 ай бұрын
I absolutely hate the kef remote the ir blaster is so bad.
@fadedlogic1
7 ай бұрын
@@myengacademia at least the phone app works decently
@myengacademia
7 ай бұрын
Good review, but the ls50s and speakers like it are meant to fill a room and not really serve as near field monitors. A better comparison for your studio monitors would be the kef lsx. I do agree that it is pricey. In the kef line I prefer the Kef R3 meta with a rel t9x. Powered by a paradigms hint 6
@RXP91
7 ай бұрын
My dad got me into KEF. Owned Kef 100 from 1994 (amazing centre channel, my parents still have the 200 as their center. I nicked his Koda 8's from 2006-2010. Flitered with B&W 803s for some years but in 2016 moved to the R300/R100's for my entire surround sound. Amazing brand. That's my end game for now, but whenever we get a new house I'm probably switching to R3's
@DefeatPete
Ай бұрын
I'd love to see more monitor reviews, thank you!
@nathanberger618
7 ай бұрын
I hope to see you in NYC, Crinacle!
@jondandavekinanahan7488
7 ай бұрын
Crinacle could you share your thoughts about soundpeats engine 4?
@jaydensydes3478
7 ай бұрын
YOOOOOO THE ERINS AUDIO CORNER NAMEDROP LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO
@frostybe3r
2 ай бұрын
Yeah didn’t feel worth it over the LSX for me
@suyan9733
14 күн бұрын
Is the LS50 wireless gen 1 still relevent in 2024? I'm thinking of buying a used pair instead of gen 2 due to budget, please someone comment.
@noncog1
7 ай бұрын
Hey, Erin! We like that guy!
@maegnificant
7 ай бұрын
I am rockig the Nubert NuPro SP-500 together woth the Nusub-XW-1200 for music, gaming and movies at home. Sounds great.
@DmitriWeissman
6 ай бұрын
Well, if you have 3000 for the speakers, you probably have another 1000 or 2000 for a sub (like a KEF KC62 for 1.5K) I don't have the wireless, just the LS50 meta (because they are front for the atmos setup and integrating LS50 wireless into multichannel is kinda pain). So here is why yes, beside the obvious look: 1. Once paired and properly integrated with a decent sub (or 2), they do the job at least as good as anything in the price range. Separate subs allow much more flexible speaker placement and way better sound. 2. They are much easier to fit into any space due to the compact form factor. 3. The sound stage ... 4. Of axis performance (coaxial drivers). 5. The separation ... 6, The details ... If you want a full range without sub and don't mind the size of the speakers, there is a LS60 Wireless for just 5K :)
@homeboi808
7 ай бұрын
9:15 They are $2500 in the USA, so pricing does vary.
@vm6038
5 ай бұрын
I currently have the LS50 Wireless II and iLoud Micro Monitor. I prefer the sound of both to LSR305 1st gen and Neumann KH120 1st gen, which I have owned in the past. LSR305s were also paired with the LSR 310S sub when I had them, but in my small bedroom, it arguably only made the sound worse... In my medium sized living room, the JBLs sounded better, but I found them to be somewhat boxy sounding and lacking dynamics. Detail and other technicalities were also not stellar, but imaging was great. The KH120s sounded even worse in my bedroom than the JBLs in some ways. The low mids were oddly bloated and imaging wasn't as good as on the JBLs, but the highs on the Neumanns were better. I also found the Neumanns to be oddly lacking coherency - I swear I could hear the separation of the woofer and the tweeter at times, even when listening from further away in my bedroom. I sold the JBLs and the Neumanns and got the iLoud Micro Monitors, expecting them to not be as good as the JBLs, but maybe at least close enough on my desk in my bedroom. Boy was I wrong. The little iLouds sounded better to me than the JBLs and also better than the Neumanns! But only on my desk in near field of course. I don't dare put them in my living room lol - they are just too small to fill that kind of space. On a desk however, at about half a meter or less of distance to my ears, I find them about perfect - exceptionally neutral, natural, with bass extension almost as good as on the much larger 5 inchers, and also amazingly coherent, unlike the KH120s. Technicalities are also better than on the JBLs I feel and upper bass and low mids are more controlled than on the Neumanns with none of the bloat. I got the LS50 Wireless II in early 2021, brand new and still sealed, off a guy from a local audio site for $2500 CAD (yes, I am in Canada). I feel they were totally worth it. They sound best in my living room. In my bedroom beside my iLouds, they are still better, but not as impressive. In the living room however, a couple meters away from the back walls, they are amazing - incredibly dynamic, powerful and technically capable. They easily outperform the JBLs and beat the Neumanns. They don't have coherency issues like I found on the Neumanns, and the dynamics and imaging are a noticeable step up too. Oh, and there's no odd low midrange/upper bass bloat that I also found on the Neumanns. I paid about $1700 new for the Neumanns and the KEFs were totally worth the $800 extra IMO. More musical, better technicalities and looks... Just need to add a decent sub and should be set for a long time. The iLouds will stay on my desk forever probably - well, until they get replaced with something even better, like iLoud 2 maybe. lol Not as good as the KEFs, but better than the JBLs and Neumanns to my ears in near-filed and thus a far better value - got mine for about $350 CAD new off Amazon. LSR305s cost me $500.
@vm6038
5 ай бұрын
I prefer the sound of my LS50 Wireless II, which are set up in my untreated medium sized living room, to any headphone I've ever heard. There's no contest IMO. Speakers provide a level of realism that headphones physically can't. The soundstage of headphones is nearly non-existent compared to good speakers like the KEFs, but what else can one expect from two drivers strapped directly to each ear? In terms of technicalities like detail, separation, transients, dynamics, etc, I find the KEFs to be at least on par with something like a solid $1k headphone, such as Focal Clear or, if talking IEMs, an IER-M9 for instance. Maybe not quite as good as top performers like Utopia or HE1000 Stealth (both of which I own BTW). Still, that speaker soundstage and imaging is what makes the KEFs a superior experience to even the Utopia. You just can't get that "I am there!" feeling with headphones, unless maybe you use some elaborate and expensive DSP processing perhaps, like one of those Smyth Realizers, or whatever they are called. My iLoud Micro Monitors, which I use on my desk in my bedroom, are about on par with a good $50-100 headphone technically, but again, due to the speaker soundstage and imaging, I prefer listening to them over most headphones. Yes, bass extension is a problem with such small speakers when listening to electronic music or if you just really need to hear the full extension. For this reason, I avoid bass oriented music on my speakers until I can get a decent sub and integrate it well with them. For most music, I find the extension to 45-50Hz that the KEFs and iLouds provide to be adequate. I still would rather get limited bass extension than switch to headphones to have the soundstage and imaging completely collapse to inside or right near my head, which is not at all how things are meant to sound.
@MechAdv
7 ай бұрын
For 1500$ a pair, plus a 50W minimum high current amp, plus a good quality DAC. and a subwoofer for everything under 100hz where these roll off drastically…. They better sound good. You’d be way better off spending that 1500$ on the ascend acoustics Sierra LX, that have better frequency response, drastically lower bass extension, lower distortion at high volume, and made in America.
@jammies701
Ай бұрын
Needing an app at all should really be a dealbreaker for anyone purchasing these… you're buying SPEAKERS let alone 2 apps and 2 accounts
@pyscho86
6 ай бұрын
"They dont have Bass" Yea right, they dont a real woofer inside xDDD Why are they "expensive"? Because they have a ton of Patents, they design their own absolutly unique drivers the Kef Uni-Q. The Kef have the tweeter in centrum of the midrange driver which leads to perfect sound distribution and u dont even have to sit in the center to have a great experience, also if ur high mid low sound comes from different drivers u can actually hear that and its not optimal. JBL uses absolutly common old technology from 1950 (doesnt have to be bad) Kef uses Tech from 2020 and is designing new stuff every few years. That costs some Money my Friend. And lets not Talk about the Qualitly, Kef has top Quality while ur 300 dollar JBLS are cheap plastic bombers, they weight 1/3 of the Kefs :)
@alvin19391
6 ай бұрын
A slight correction. The original ls50 from 2012 are passive speakers, and they continue to be passive unless specified otherwise IE 'wireless' you can use active/wireless interchangeably but KEF refers to them as wireless. 2012 LS50 passive 2017 LS50 wireless 2020 LS50 meta passive 2020 LS50 meta wireless I'm only pointing this out just in case someone makes the mistake of purchasing the passive versions.
@spdcrzy
6 ай бұрын
Once you get ANYTHING from The Ones line of Genelec monitors, everything else will be ruined for you. Period. The 8361s are my dream speakers, because they basically disappear. That's why the LS50 design is so cool. It has almost zero baffle reflections AND it's a point source design. The Genelec Ones take that design a step further in cast aluminum. That's nuts.
@arthurwatts1680
6 ай бұрын
I'm assuming that every Singaporean has a 3D printer somewhere in their apartment. Time for you to take one for the team (!) and build DMS' SB Acoustics speakers - not a single atom of sawdust anywhere in the build. Looking forward to your review ! kzitem.info/news/bejne/2Hx6lm1rhXNzrG0&pp=ygUXZG1zIDNkIHByaW50ZWQgc3BlYWtlcnM%3D kzitem.info/news/bejne/rpiI0IqLcZOhqHY&pp=ygUXZG1zIDNkIHByaW50ZWQgc3BlYWtlcnM%3D
@cristiancabrera6627
7 ай бұрын
I have a pair of speakers from a Sony sound system from the 90s, I connected them to a type D amplifier of 50 watts per channel with an H2 Lossless Bluetooth Receiver with Ldac, 120 dollars for everything...There will be a lot of difference in sound with these speakers ?😂😂
@D6isD6
7 ай бұрын
"You need to install an app" My interest has dropped to zero. "You need another app that they don't tell you you need" My interest is negative. "You need an account" Is this a bit? KEF? This isn't funny. This is awful. Still watching the video but man, way to kill any desire for the product. I'll stick with passive systems.
@ubacow7109
6 ай бұрын
A minor nitpick, but there are woofers can actually get down to 30hz territory w/ 5-6" cones nowadays, some 4" woofers can get down into the high 30s nowadays as well. They are harder to drive but they will go low w/ fairly minimal distortion. Kef's implementation w/ their speakers do sacrifice some excursion for a smoother edge diffraction through which is a good tradeoff for response & imaging. Id rec even the normal LS50 Meta, you dont really need the EQ and it has good flat response out of the box.
@vongdong10
6 ай бұрын
I've had them and found them fatiguing. Replaced with dynaudio focus xd 20 and MUCH happier. They had less features but sounded so much bettter. The LSX on the other is pretty dang good for the money, especially in the 2nd hand market.
@MrSaartjie
4 ай бұрын
valid points Mr. Crinacle - you did forget these look gooooood though---- also Damnnnnn I picked these guys up ages ago for €2100 new feels like i robbed someone
@corrrect
7 ай бұрын
Very unreliable speaker. Kef, make good passive speakers, i would avoid their powered wireless speakers.
@paulchristman4918
6 ай бұрын
Awesome... You can review tons of other hifi products and I'd watch every one. Love your channel!
@gordyboy01
7 ай бұрын
"Cheaper" Kef wireless model range is less (coughs*) expensive Kef LSX II, or indeed new slightly cheaper still Kef LSX II LT.
@hxuanpham
6 ай бұрын
Got my ls50 meta for under $600 (used with some dmg) and I'm pretty happy with how they sound. They do sound really good, but absolutely not worth it at MSRP, especially when compared to a lot of the competition at that price range.
@stewartdillard7199
6 ай бұрын
I have a pair of q350s hooked up to a WIIM Amp in my second listening room which sound great and I bought for less than $1000. I like to think of this as the poor man's LS50 wireless with extra bass.
@Klevzz
6 ай бұрын
Liked this review but you definitely don’t need to sign up to Google home to use them. Regarding the bass I agree it doesn’t hit the lowest frequencies, but it will definitely be more than enough if you live in an apartment building. Me personally love these speakers so much. I’m getting the LS60 though.
@dkendall77
6 ай бұрын
I love it anytime someone recommends the JBL 305s. Completely underrated. Neumann's are way better for sure, but for the price the JBLs are hard to beat.
@Gosu9765
6 ай бұрын
KEFs sound good enough I don't care there might be something better (and likely wouldn't be able to recognise that) and they are just sexy. I'll gladly trade some sound qualities for some eye pleasure everyday.
@rich.e
7 ай бұрын
Nothing wrong with Genelec, Adam, Hedd and all the studio monitor ilk but I just wouldn't want a pair in my sitting room; too austere looking and the other half rightly wouldn't have it. Something like the KEFs not only look better (it's not everything but it is something) but they also have bass crossover management to a sub as well as all the other functionaility that can reduce the amount of cable spaghetti. Not saying one is better than the other but half-decent subs aren't expensive whereas subjectively finer aesthetics can be.
@kaekayyy2554
6 ай бұрын
Review genelecs next
@russellmcquaid9950
6 ай бұрын
be honest...its garbage. overpriced and makes you wish for better. What could be worse when it comes to a speaker. At least its not ugly? oh wait.....its ugly too
@Mohandraa
7 ай бұрын
I'm someone mildly interested in sound quality and want something that works But I also someone who would rather not have his wife kick him out of the house for buying a 3000 usd pair of speakers Next video do the same thing for maybe 300
@Xeltos
6 ай бұрын
I've had these for almost 2 years and they've been amazing for me. 👍 They still feel brand new to me every time i listen to music. Plus all of the built in options for audio. Only thing i wish is they'd redo the app, mostly to do with in-app support for streaming services is just clunky and unsatisfactory and i feel like there's no point in using it unless you have no other way to get the best quality audio.
@chriscondict3104
6 ай бұрын
I run some emotiva 4s powered monitors. They sound amazing at around ten percent the price. Adam audio had some reasonable priced speaker monitors as well. There are many more reasonably priced options that will sound amazing. Kef may sound a bit better but i dont know about a couple thousand dollars better
@paulhunter6652
2 ай бұрын
I thought I was interested in these for a desk top set-up. They sound like a nuisance with two apps and too much technology to go wrong. I think a small stack and better speakers may be the way to go.
@muthukumaranc
7 ай бұрын
Yeah, many people just want beautiful looking speakers for their home from a good brand that work conveniently.
@edamameme1789
6 ай бұрын
As someone casually interested in good sound...2 apps with 2 accounts killed any interest i had. Thats just stupid.
@Anchor2012
7 ай бұрын
Speakers that make me install Google anything or create an account on any online service will just not be purchased. Do better KEF.
@gren1977
7 ай бұрын
I got these a year ago and everyday is like falling in love again and again. I just don't hear sound coming out of these speakers - the music just floats in a real Soundstage in front of you. And this is me using it as a computer monitor, separated by a 57 inch g9, uncalibrated at that.. Yet the coaxial nature of the drivers are very forgiving. I have to admit, I got them for the looks but the sound makes it worth every penny.
@s0me1newithhand7s
7 ай бұрын
*OH, They looks great* *Mh, they sounds not terrible* > Crin shows price *Fucking no💀*
@moots27
7 ай бұрын
I'll know I will have made it in life when I have the 8361As in my room
@_DerTypDa_
7 ай бұрын
Imagine 8381a
@foxgaming76yt24
7 ай бұрын
Honestly Crin, did not exepect this at all. I just wanna say though, Neumann's Linearity is genuinely unmatched, even the Genelec Ones will not come close. The main reason I'd look to upgrade to the Genelec Ones is that it's a coax, which will minimise the lobing issues we would normally see in any average 2 way like the KH120(usually it would completely eliminate it, but the Genelec Ones do have some minor lobing between the midrange and woofers. It is minimal enough to generally not be an issue though.). If that isn't much of an issue however, a second KH750 could help you take care of room modes if placed appropriately, which is something no 10k+ USD speaker could honestly even dream of doing, so I suggest you consider this as another purchase option :)
@crin
7 ай бұрын
Genelec Ones are directivity monsters though. Neumanns have amazing on-axis performance (I would know) but the Gennies are simply a marvel of retaining fidelity at all realistic listening angles.
@foxgaming76yt24
7 ай бұрын
@@crin I'd say both have fantastic directivity linearity, honestly. Although, as you mentioned, yeah, The Genelecs Ones have the edge over Neumanns in the fact that it doesn't have the vertical lobing effects visible in the DI and contour plots at their respective crossover frequencies because of the fact that Genelecs utilises a coaxial, so there isn't cancellation between the tweeter and midrange off axis. These effects may not be as audible as you believe them to be though, so I'd recommend you try the Genelec Ones out at places like Luther (they have the 8331A). A dual sub could really improve the linearity of the in room response though, modal issues within the room could be taken care of easily if placement is done properly
@foxgaming76yt24
7 ай бұрын
@@crin Also, y'know, I wouldn't mind to have a chat with you on discord, if you don't mind either, I'm kinda excited to see someone well known in the audio space that is from Singapore finally really attempt to explore speakers. I don't expect the market here in SG to be huge, but I'd be interested to see how the market here could develop if there could even be a speaker community half as large as IEF :)
@tranthien3932
7 ай бұрын
Got any 711 couplers for those puppies?
@RandomThingydiv6
5 ай бұрын
please advise me on what speakers to buy you were so useful for headphones for me. i loved the audiotechnica ath rtx 70
@AudioMemo
7 ай бұрын
Although the MSRP of these is $3,000, they go on sale for below $2000 pretty often. I think that changes the calculation a bit.
@wreagfe
7 ай бұрын
I bought them for EUR 2k already 3 years ago. Now they indeed go below USD2k.
@steamstories1279
7 ай бұрын
LSR 705P / 708P is all I need in my life... but too expensive.
@marcosvictor4935
7 ай бұрын
Moarrrrr Mooaaaaarr Speaker reviews! Damn we should get together and to buy Crin a Klippel NFS.
@parp2323
7 ай бұрын
Please review the Genelec ones!
@brettwharton
2 ай бұрын
KEF offers a subwoofer you can use with the LS50IIs.
@hartyewh1
7 ай бұрын
I'd take Revel M16 over the Kefs any day. Any version of the LS50.
@blue-eye-white-dragon
7 ай бұрын
M16?
@hartyewh1
7 ай бұрын
@@blue-eye-white-dragon Yup, a $1000 pair of Revel bookshelfs. They sound gorgeous.
@blue-eye-white-dragon
7 ай бұрын
I though you meant the firearm M16 XD Also what are some entry level speakers that I can by as my first speaker. They can also be the small ones without a separate woofer
@yo3429
6 ай бұрын
5dB on axis from flat isn't that good in the critical upper midrange region compared to real good ones in this price range.
@kennethmo0327
7 ай бұрын
You gotta try Klipsch The Fives, or Sevens 🔥 thank me later
@nicklariviere9019
7 ай бұрын
Anyone else distracted by the speaker floating over the video link at 00:31 ?
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