I disagree fundamentally with the notion of something special being needed. Matter on earth can be inert, some matter is self-ordered (like crystals) and some matter becomes self-directed (like non-linear systems). I think all things that can happen did happen, and in with this bunch of things emerging is life. Nothing special about life; rather, the universe~~being a self-organising system~~generates some different types of system due to the totality of the environments (state spaces) and the constituents and the non-component specific interactions which lead to non-linearity, feedback, and thus self-directed systems aka autopoesis. To make a big deal about life especially, that shows an ignorance of the principle of super-deterministism and self-organising systems. To get what's happened may require specific conditions, but not special condions. The bigger surprise ~~given the laws of physics and the nature of emergence~~would be that life didn’t arise on earth. Indeed, any conditions where low entropy energy exists and the correct boundary conditions come about should eventually lead to more complex systems. Looking at the fossil record, it's clear a great many more complex lifeforms have persisted before going extinct. I think it is likely that on earth, parallel autopoesis likely led to different types of life developing in different places on earth together. What is key for life is a planet of our constituents and a favourable position in the solar system, and a sun that is just active enough but not too much. Any world's with these conditions are more than likely to spawn life. Any sun producing too much radiation will stop life. In any fractal universe (and chaotic attractors are fractal in nature) will produce self-similar patterns, so other earth like conditions are extremely likely. So the reason we want it to be special is that we don’t want to think of life as inevitable and ubiquitous in the universe. Our ego knows no bounds.
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Von Neumann informational description is understandably fundamentally flawed IMO . if you start from the the assumption that organisms are ontologically true autonomous agents , the dualistic atomistic conception, than this makes perfect sense. However , with the realization that organisms exist only as process in relationships and therefore have no stable objective existence...you realize that the information problem needs far less specification. All that is nescesary is recreation of a robust and highly flexible life cycle. The information is distributed throughout the organisms entire web of relationships.
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