Me going to learn this song: "its in 4/4 how hard can it be" Tomas Haake: *laughs in 17/16*
@donpombero2974
3 жыл бұрын
4/4 in one hand
@adrianolima3965
3 жыл бұрын
ok, I tried to laugh in that time signature...
@hexed8749
3 жыл бұрын
🤣
@GeorgeTsiros
3 жыл бұрын
ha ha ha ha hahahahahahaha ha ha
@jaysonwilson2697
3 жыл бұрын
Sort of a James Brown feel- Jens Hanneman
@materiagrezza9331
3 жыл бұрын
I think Meshuggah should be an academic discipline by now. I love these videos!
@franlovelsimic8421
3 жыл бұрын
They were a central part of one course on Berklee and one conservatory in Sweden also analyzed them if I am not mistaken. Very fucking cool and I hope more jump on that train in the future and with other important bands as these madlads!
@philipgiger3411
3 жыл бұрын
lol yeah!
@aplus1080
3 жыл бұрын
That is so fucking seriously true. I'm going to harass my college's music theory teachers to teach me this shit to the max or I'll detune all their shit.
@TheShmrsh
3 жыл бұрын
@@aplus1080 just chill xD
@thc_freebaser
3 жыл бұрын
@@franlovelsimic8421 And people say this isn't music
@DavidBriganti421
2 жыл бұрын
It would be comical if Meshuggah were shown some of Yogevs hard efforts and they were blown away because they too, had no idea their music was so complex.
@spimbles
Жыл бұрын
thats probably not far off from the truth lol theyve stated that they dont ever focus on math or time signatures when composing music, they just make shit that sounds cool. making it work as "proper" rhythms is literally an afterthought for them 😭
@ronbarzilai5705
3 жыл бұрын
The main riff is like Clapping Music but djentier
@sushigod101
3 жыл бұрын
Music For 18 8-Stringed Guitars
@maximummatt73
2 жыл бұрын
WHAT
@jersonfernandez5396
3 жыл бұрын
How dare you let us choose between dancers and stengah I feel offended I want both .
@hightechterror2859
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly my feeling, this ain’t easy
@facemash
3 жыл бұрын
"Stengah" Oh easy choice "Dancers" SHIT
@gregwaste2594
3 жыл бұрын
when dancers is in any list there is no other option imho.
@YogevGabay
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly why I'm not choosing
@juliusdollinger5169
3 жыл бұрын
I feel offended too. We need to shut him down. This makes KZitem a hostile environment for me.
@krthkh
3 жыл бұрын
When the vocals start, I think it's over for the average musician.
@bezalel5081
3 жыл бұрын
@@fredriksvard2603 must be nice, I'm still on Mr. Sandman 😕
@npnaia
3 жыл бұрын
"Man, I'm happy I'm not the one choosing"Oh, It'll be Dancers to a Discordant System Yogev.
@offydannerson8049
3 жыл бұрын
Dancers To A Discordant System HAS to win. Best song ever written and I would love to have it analyzed by you.
@derluke9674
3 жыл бұрын
I really wonder, if Meshuggah sometimes watches your videos and thinks "Ooooh no, OOOOOH NO, WHAT HAVE WE DONE!"
@supermot34
3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, another underappreciated masterpiece from Koloss. This one is really fun to play to say the least.
@gilroitto
3 жыл бұрын
This is so crazy. The best part is that I don't primarily appreciate the concepts (albeit it is magical), but I love the music.
@superking208
3 жыл бұрын
If it makes you feel any better, with Meshuggah even those of us nodding our heads like we know what's going on are barely keeping up 😅
@facemash
3 жыл бұрын
Meshuggah's magic is that their music is somehow both incredibly complex when you break it down but you can still headbang and groove to it.
@exilenl
3 жыл бұрын
@@facemash Well let's see if I've watched enough of Yogev's vids to explain: the host is always 4/4 (of the vids I've watched). So no matter how crazy it all gets, you can always find the steady 1 2 3 4 somewhere in the drums, which is what we bang to :)
@darkySp
3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how you instantly get a flowing groove when the hi-hat comes in, it's like the entire song changes, but it doesn't.
@YogevGabay
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@Timocracy
3 жыл бұрын
What’s really wild is that they’ve all said in interviews they just write the song however they feel it, and don’t delve into the theory and deliberately plan time signatures.
@lynxlee7703
3 жыл бұрын
They are creative geniuses. This video was made by an analytical genius. If you look at the comment section you will see that its composed mostly of people who notice small details or who have good humor. This channel attracts high IQ people
@masterchain3335
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, what they say in interviews is often bullshit (this is typical of a lot of bands, actually). They absolutely do plan this shit out, they'll even admit this in some interviews and then downplay it in others.
@lakejizzio7777
2 жыл бұрын
@@masterchain3335 I know part of it is intuitive but yes you are right. Most of the time artists downplay their theory knowledge.
@acobster
3 жыл бұрын
There's more. You can think of the harmonic rhythm of the fourth riff - roughly, the rhythm with which the notes change - as being in triple time. The contour is: minor 3, sharp 4, perfect 5 (with root notes in between). You can hear it trace the accents of the 13/8 phrase, but it only lines up every third bar of 13/8 because there are only two accent notes in each bar. So the melody itself is kind of its own little polymeter. _Then_ during the second half, they continue this as they start switching notes out. The melody still follows the triple-time contour, but with certain notes in the 3-4-5 cycle swapped for higher notes for a kind of melodic crescendo effect. This is my favorite Meshuggah song.
@joelcoool
3 жыл бұрын
holy shit, that's mind blowing
@drumkidstu
3 жыл бұрын
This is a technique called an isorhythm. Meshuggah uses this quite a lot. The prechorus riff of stengah, guitar solo riff of bleed, The entirety of the first 2 minutes of pineal gland optics, the riffs in dancers right after the modulation section, the descending riff before the guitar solo in I am Colossus,the intros and outros of swarm, the outro riff of demiurge, and the verse riff of Nostrum are all examples of this. It's like a cycle within a cycle.
@drumkidstu
3 жыл бұрын
There are probably more examples of it, but those ones stand out to me.
@acobster
3 жыл бұрын
@@drumkidstu I had noticed it in other Meshuggah songs but I wasn't aware of the term! Thanks!
@yessir6427
3 жыл бұрын
fuck this shit lol i quit
@TheProgSchool
3 жыл бұрын
The hardest part about playing these kinds of riffs on guitar is changing key/chords mid rhythmic pattern. It always feels so awkward. Incredible analysis as always!
@pitzpitz
3 жыл бұрын
11:19 Sharon is taking a mouse and returning headphones :O
@victorbeluc1171
3 жыл бұрын
Shhht She might need it
@blasramones4515
3 жыл бұрын
Not A Millions Subs Yet, But Closer And Closer! See You All There!
@evanhosley2360
3 жыл бұрын
dude, these kinds of videos are so hard to find, thank you so much for making these. I love this kind of rhythmically mind-bending music and your videos are so great for finding new concepts, new musicians, new music, and new rhythmic puzzles to solve. thank you so much, please don't stop making these
@bencampbell5468
3 жыл бұрын
A channel that analyses progressive metal? HOW DID I NOT DISCOVER THIS CHANNEL SOONER!
@22ddo
3 жыл бұрын
Man, I appreciate you explaining Patreon and giving a glimpse behind the scenes. I have to admit I didn't realize it worked like that. I fully support what you're doing here and love your execution. I'll have to investigate Patreon
@briancherry8088
2 жыл бұрын
Something feels so "drunken" about this song. I tap my foot and sometimes I am suddenly tapping backwards (down on the upbeat). But then at times everything lines up and it just sounds amazing... probably because its been slowly aligning and I am subconsciously waiting for it. Tension and release. Fantastic stuff. I wonder if they graph it out.
@TwiggehTV
Жыл бұрын
The tapping down on the upbeat is very stronk in Monstrocity aswell tbh
@swatchcovers5401
9 ай бұрын
for real! while playing it it grooves so hard, but is so meditative at the same time
@beadab3907
3 жыл бұрын
Missed opportunity to do Jens face in the thumbnail.
@jjanime
3 жыл бұрын
I know this doesn't count as a vote, but I'd love to see Stengah!
@mbw0826
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen visual presentations like this with drum ed content creators . This approach is really helpful when trying to grasp these rhythms that tend to mess with your brain as you attempt to break them down as time signatures. Excellent content!
@theopinson3851
3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit...I never realized that it stays in 17/16. I always interpreted the harmonic changes as turnarounds that resolve but you’re right...the key change is just happening in the middle of the riff. That’s insane!
@FranIuvara
3 жыл бұрын
Can't believe you did my favorite Meshuggah song!! Listening to riff#4 live on concert was a life-changing experience. Thanks for this!!
@azizal-azfar1930
3 жыл бұрын
I would like to know more about those carcasses of gaming controllers hanging. Also that you for everything dude. You're like a messiah spreading the word of the one great Meshuggah.
@brunoide7446
3 жыл бұрын
i discovered this channel 2 days ago and oh man, you're great. Thx to you i now understand the greatness of meshuggah much better.
@Davidparry12
3 жыл бұрын
This channel is so special, jeez. Such good educational tools you use.
@Sol_1nvictus5813
Жыл бұрын
I knew Meshuggah were geniuses this guy just confirms it. 🤘🤘
@ssorjnature7274
3 жыл бұрын
Much respect for taking the time to analyze and summarize such complex songs. Thank you!
@ImreImbrium
3 жыл бұрын
Very creative , elegant and effective way to break this down, but to also illustrate what is going on. Love your breakdown and the vid!!!
@BrianKrock
3 жыл бұрын
Yogev, dude, you are such a creative badass! I love the posterboard/puzzle pieces! I love the terms "host" and "guest"- I don't think I've ever heard someone describe polymeters in that way.
@YogevGabay
3 жыл бұрын
Trying my best!
@dragon___
Жыл бұрын
the freaking concept of this song and how they implemented it, holy cow
@mybiggrin
3 жыл бұрын
Dude thank you so much for making these videos. Big fan of Collier and Meshuggah. These vids are really helping me out.
@darkphoenix2
Жыл бұрын
I pretty much understand all of this and my mind is still blown that they can just use 9 beats from a riff and transition perfectly right back into the intro riff and make it all end seamlessly
@royyan29
3 жыл бұрын
that determination to explain a meshuggah song.. subbed! cant wait for more!
@GODElRigna
3 жыл бұрын
;) As always clear, concise, focused, easy to understand for those looking to learn and most importantly respectful of the source material and the intentions of the writers.
@VBRS16
3 жыл бұрын
This channel deserves a few million subscribers 👏
@taranloses
3 жыл бұрын
This song just never gets old. Great video as always. I think after watching a lot of your videos, I can understand everything in this video more easily. You have definitely inspired me to learn about this stuff and it seems very cool. I plan to binge the whole Time Consuming series at some point.
@Sumarbrander
3 жыл бұрын
Joined your patreon. Being able to hear the music you are talking about helps upping the quality a lot
@MartinBellamyMBDrums
3 жыл бұрын
Dont look down is one of my favs! Thanks for this video! Okay legit, this style of video is incredible. Amazing editing man!
@ronshbl
3 жыл бұрын
Your channel is growing so well! You really deserve it!
@user199543999
3 жыл бұрын
11:27 The headphones that were "stolen" from you in Video "Meshuggahs' 'Clockwork' is all 2's and 3's" at 14:16 were put back!
@justinsinkevich9868
3 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel..... I never realized just how much I enjoy arts and crafts with music theory! Lol
@lambertronix
2 жыл бұрын
i'll watch this later but just gotta say the title speaks to me
@ignaciojauregui7423
3 жыл бұрын
Nostrum is also insane. Again this is an excelent video, keep it up!
@daviddevilliers2828
3 жыл бұрын
Impressive works, congratulations! Messugah is a phenomenon. Very impressive
@xXxArgMaggotxXx
3 жыл бұрын
The tone shift blew my mind. How the hell can you think outside the box that way
@harryxiro
3 жыл бұрын
This makes dream theater look like a children's nursery rhyme
@Joesorr324
9 ай бұрын
This genuinely allowed me to learn the kick drum pattern so I can now play this on a single kick.
@YogevGabay
9 ай бұрын
Amazing !
@TheNoobaDooba
3 жыл бұрын
This has quickly became one of my favorite series on youtube
@franlovelsimic8421
3 жыл бұрын
You keep outdoing yourself in terms of quality and accessibility. Smart to analyze Shuggah as often and I am already seeing a lot of new faces which makes me very happy!
@ForlaniMota
Жыл бұрын
Been 2 mins in the video and subscribed. Beautiful way to teach music! Cheers from Germany!
@sankharaYT
Жыл бұрын
Dude, this is pure public service. Love it! Keep it up!
@josuastangl7140
3 жыл бұрын
Man I love this channel, thank you!
@freshprinceofsharjah
3 жыл бұрын
Yeeeee best day, new Yogev vid 😁
@undefeated3257
3 жыл бұрын
The effort you put into this is incredible
@mystdeisanto9919
3 жыл бұрын
There's still 96 Meshuggah song left to features in Time Consuming! Let's go!
@Meurth
3 жыл бұрын
I love your meshuggah videos!
@mattb6539
3 жыл бұрын
I love the way you present these. Very educational and good humor to it. You are an amazing teacher.
@mr.meatbeat9894
3 жыл бұрын
Wow dude, you really made me look at writing music a new way with this lesson. Thank you
@Dave-oh2sv
3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Excellent breakdown!
@mattchrstnsn
3 жыл бұрын
Incredible analysis, straightforward and well thought out. I feel like I understand meshuggah for the first time. Thank you
@gabebennett818
3 жыл бұрын
Sick! I’ve always thought of those first couple riffs as 7+5+5 and 5+5+5, not with the 7/5+4+6. The visuals are great these videos have been super helpful! New fan for sure 🤟
@123jad123jad
3 жыл бұрын
Had to subscribe, the explanations are so clean and understandable, great work!
@Geedis287
3 жыл бұрын
"What are your pronouns?" "Rhy/them"
@christopherburot1309
3 жыл бұрын
Damn, this song is the only one from meshuggah that I can play. I do it all by ear, but damn when you explain it it sounds way more complicated !
@rorbot_SMF
2 жыл бұрын
The intro riff visual is great because you can get a better idea of what's happening structurally in the song.
@rodentsoncrack5001
Жыл бұрын
Man, you are by far the the greatest talent in breaking down difficult music structures into visibly understandable parts for stupid musicians as my self. Simple and force full setup you have developed for every one to enjoy! Cheers ! I will chip in for sure :)
@YogevGabay
Жыл бұрын
Oh thanks a lot man ! I try to make more people like the music that I like muhahahahahaha
@willfaithnomore
2 жыл бұрын
This whole song is absolute 🔥🔥🔥
@VanguardSound7
3 жыл бұрын
Bro.... You are the man! Thank you for this great content. You just won a new subscriber.
@luisbalderrama8145
3 жыл бұрын
This is amazing. Keep up the great work.
@avivrogovski1742
3 жыл бұрын
הסרטונים שלך זה הדבר הכי טוב שקרה בשנה האחרונה, סופר מעניינים ואני גם מאוד אוהב את המוזיקה שלך. עד היום לא ניסיתי את Patreon אבל אם זה אתה אני לא צריך לחשוב פעמיים אפילו. פשוט גאון.
@michaelbloomer451
3 жыл бұрын
SO well laid out and presented!
@TheFloatingBartender
3 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure how I’d feel not having your channel now that I know it. Thank you sir
@spaceagejunkie
3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit🤯 this just put things in a whole new perspective 🤯
@Xiorx71
3 жыл бұрын
Bro, you’re incredible, and your work ethic is insane! I just passed an hour like 5 minutes watching your videos. Much love man. 🤘🏻
@LiamGaughan
7 ай бұрын
I teach music theory to classical musician kids, and they all freak out at anything odd meter, so we clapped "short, short, long, short, short, 1 2 3 4 5 6". and I drew the circles on the board. Once they had it tight I put the track on, should have seen their faces!! Love using meshuggah in those lessons and it's actually quite impressive how rhythmic people can be when you're not looking at standard notation and just move your body. Great video, and thank you for the inspiration!
@YogevGabay
7 ай бұрын
Amazing! And yes you're ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! I also believe rhythm is more approachable when you try non western ways. Epic!
@tduic
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation, wonderful, really enjoyed it. Every possible breakdown of Meshuggah's rhythm nightmares is always welcome. And yeah, Stengah for the next video, one of their best songs.
@aidannunn4668
2 жыл бұрын
ill just stick to 4/4 thanks. /s seriously though, videos are awesome! they are really helpful in helping me understand one of my favorite bands!
@eyemoeba2
11 ай бұрын
great effort putting this together geez. top job. such a tune.
@YogevGabay
11 ай бұрын
Thanks !
@scosstard3542
3 жыл бұрын
Nostrum :'( Still, Do Not Look Down is awesome, and the breakdown you made of the songs: OMG! I don't know who I respect most, Meshuggah for writing this crazy music, or you to take the time to dissect it and explain it in a way that is understandable for common mortal like us. Meshuggah is fire! and you are Prometheus :D Your channel has been booming recently, I think you had 2k when I subscribed and now you have 10 time more subs. It is awesome! Keep up the great work! I'dream of seeing Hacride - On The Threshold of Death on this channel :)
@alvaro.makes.music1
3 жыл бұрын
4:46 "... I'm such a djentleman"
@mcascone
3 жыл бұрын
I love listening to this band and hearing the cycles, and I do have some some kind of visualization of them but it’s not concrete. It’s really cool to see them in physical form like this. And, I learn the riffs even better this way. Really great stuff! Oh, and do stengah next.
@Praeterita1976
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video -1. Dancers, 2. Stengah, 3 exquiste
@milanimilani
3 жыл бұрын
I have two special requests for you - Car Bomb 🙏 - Koenji Hyakkei 🙏 Almost every song, from every album worth a deep analysis. And man, I will follow you forever. Anyway, congratulations for you for the so didactic and visual method you have choose and do so well to make us benefit more from those masterpieces. I really admire not only your entire comprehension but also the way you explain it and make it all accessible to us.
@milanimilani
3 жыл бұрын
PS: If you can show us how many things are happening in 0 : 47 to 1 : 09 into "Djebelaki Zomn" - or why not the entire song !! - I will be so glad. It's so fucking deep and complex.
@roblosh8417
3 жыл бұрын
YES, thank you!! I’m so glad you did this one, this album and song really are so groovy
@aleksajoksimovic
3 жыл бұрын
Incredible video, great work!
@federicosilvestri5527
3 жыл бұрын
Your video style is so fun
@neonblack211
9 ай бұрын
love these videos, this is probably a better way to understand Meshuggah's music and composition style than traditional music notation. Interesting also I remember back in the day listening to catch 33 and realizing they are playing with the melody now too almost like they play with the rhythms... like poly-melody lol... so now not only do you have to pay attention to the polyrhythms but the melody rhythms lol
@YogevGabay
9 ай бұрын
Unsurprisingly, I AGREEE
@suqmadiq6653
3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love these videos! Thank you!!! Please break down anything from their album Chaosphere. Preferably either Corridor of Chameleons or The Mouth Licking What Youve Bled
@matrefeytontias
3 жыл бұрын
You sir are of the most deserving of a Patreon support. I'll be right here after I get some sleep lol
@G.B.P.
3 жыл бұрын
Stengah next bro!!!! Such an interesting song. I understand every part except the guitar solo part! Do that one!!!!
@Wildoerfaren
3 жыл бұрын
Amazing work as always!
@KidneyFailureGaming
3 жыл бұрын
By far the grooviest song in Koloss. Thanks for choosing this track.
@bernhardkulzer9125
3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Well done! Makes me from a dude with no plan of that I have not plan to somebody feeling enriched and about to now suddenly having a plan of that mystery music! Amazing! 😁👍
@S3lvah
3 жыл бұрын
When I (try to) play this song on the drums, I honestly don't count the 4/4 at all until a few bars into Verse 1. The measure cut-offs feel kinda amorphous until then.
@Jesus0nSteroids
3 жыл бұрын
100%. I never even heard the 4/4, but noticed I always tap my foot to it, but cut the measure at different points
@theopinson3851
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t count any of Meshuggah’s songs in 4/4. To me the odd times defined by the guitars are a more natural anchor and the 4/4 is a polyrhythm against it. So I’d reverse the roles of “guest” and “host.”
@Jesus0nSteroids
3 жыл бұрын
@@theopinson3851 Yeah! Well put
@markusmeiser
2 жыл бұрын
@@theopinson3851 but the fun part is, when you train your ears so that you can always hear & keep the 4/4-pulse steady and actually feel the shifted riffs as shifted riffs :) at least to me that's the most enjoyable thing about it..
@theopinson3851
2 жыл бұрын
@@markusmeiser yeah, I’ve trained myself to be able to play a 4/4 (or at least a quarter) pulse over just about anything. I feel it as the downbeat shifting to upbeat/offbeat as it allows you to keep everything else constant and to lock in with the other instruments. So if you can play a groove with your right hand leading quarters, off 8ths, off 16ths, etc it’s not too hard, though it does get pretty easy to get lost if you throw fills in there. ;)
@dannes22
3 жыл бұрын
Dancers! Its my favorite song from meshuggah hands down.
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