The rock at 16:30 are very similar to the rocks that carry water at Machu Picchu in South America. There are a lot of similar structures in southeast Kentucky, southwest Virginia and northeastern tennessee. Which, there is also blue clay present in some of those areas as well. Lots of rock walls and mounds. I wouldn't necessarily say they are done by mayans though. There were native American tribes that built mounds and rock structures too. They were called the Adena culture, and existed 1000 BC.
@bethbartlett5692
4 жыл бұрын
Possibly my best find on KZitem for natural and fairly local Ancient Earth-work remains. I'm stunned at the elaborate degrees of efforts and size of the area. I would be in my element setting on the stream overlooking the ancient pond. Mesmerized ... (Next "!")
@peppermotte
11 жыл бұрын
I was fortunate enough to spend 5 days of last Spring 2012 covering the whole site top to bottom. I have extensive surveys, photos and of course the video you have seen I am currently working on maps and illustrations of this massive 100 acre village. It is, in my opinion, beyond any doubt that this dates to the time of the Mayan occupation in what is now the Southeastern United States. I am also tying this in with sites on St Simon's Island Georgia and other coastal areas in SC and Florida.
@bethbartlett5692
Жыл бұрын
I know you did this 10 years ago, but it is a true gem. Your descriptions reflect Education and Intelligence, the overall narrative is a most easy listen. The experience inspires me to get out and take some time to 9bserve and enjoy the energy and History in our world. I'm in NW Tennessee, which has been farmed to the Bedrock, lol, it is red clay and some contrary ground, mud trap or hard as a day old biscuit. However, I believe I found an unnoticed Mound. I would never even mention it to locals or Mainstream Academics/Archaeologists, whom would rush it off to the Black hole of the Smithsonian. I'm a Sociologist/Behavioralist and Historian and I have no fear of Peer retribution, for I'm independent, and don't depend on a University nor Corporation for livelihood. I'm an "Authentic Academic", which means I follow the"Standards of Science and Research" which prohibits using a Theory as Fact. Mainstream Academia are already experiencing the effects of Diagnostic Facts, such as DNA Studies, Geophysics Studies, and an emerging younger Academics with Awakened Minds. The subjects that were threats to their "19th Century Theory based Paradigm and Linear Timeline" will gain opportunities for researching and Discoveries. It must be a pleasure to have the Geography to read as this 9ffers. I miss Nevada, if you're ever there, there are areas of amazing Petroglyphs. Some considered the oldest found in the USA. (Northern Nevada) Hope you're still Exploring and Discovering. Beth
@peopleofonefire9643
5 жыл бұрын
From Richard Thornton - Actually, most of the petroglyphs long predate the agricultural terraces. They are identical to those at Nykoping, Sweden - which date to 2000 BC. We are finding numerous terrace complexes, in much better condition than Track Rock, in northern Habersham County, GA. They were probably built by the Soque, who also came from southern Mexico. Their descendants are the Miccosukee. We are also finding the Swedish Bronze Age-style petroglyphs in NE Georgia.
@peppermotte
8 жыл бұрын
In addition to my opinion of the origins of the village and it's purpose: Based on my recent discovery and direct observations, it is my interpretation that the circular forms in Track Rock Gap Petroglyphs are partially a symbolic map indicating the "mines and trenches" located in the immediate area of the Track Rock Gap petroglyph boulders. These pit mines ( up to 50 ft across and 25 feet deep) and trenches ( running 100 yards and 5 feet deep) lay hidden deep in the forest mountainside directly across from the village. It is likely these mines were the very spot where the Mayans were acquiring the rare Georgia clay that was being exported back to the Yucatan to create their sacred "Mayan Blue" paint pigment.
@Sylkenwolf
7 жыл бұрын
Motte Thomas this is really cool! I'd love to see this as I have been to that part a lot of times and never heard of the Petroglyphs. Thanks for sharing
@robertbrown8175
5 жыл бұрын
I have heard this story before many years ago.
@donsscooters
11 жыл бұрын
I have been in that area many times and had no idea that it held so much history. Thanks for the video bro. Enjoyed it.
@peppermotte
11 жыл бұрын
This ancient village predates Native American occupation by almost 1000 years. I am also studying Chaco Canyon and other Anasazi sites in the Southwest. Chaco Canyon is almost twice the distance from the main Mayan culture as Track Rock Gap, GA. Making the journey to Chaco Canyon, the ancients had to travel almost 2000 miles over land, in comparison, it's only 900 miles to the Gulf coast and on to Georgia and much of it by sea and river.
@thrsalgthtnvrgosout
10 жыл бұрын
thanks motte!!!! that was awesome. i have been trying to find and read more info on this site. looking forward to more from you!
@rickecheverria3515
4 жыл бұрын
Motte, I have been visiting Maya sites ( around 50sites ) in Mexico and Guatemala since 1952, I would like to make a couple observations about your video... First: I have never seen or heard of any Maya petroglyphs... Second: I have never seen or heard of any Maya terraces, Incas =terraces... Third: The Maya did beautiful stone work, these walls you are showing look identical to walls in Vermont built in colonial times... Forth: Maya Blue clay is found just outside the town of Ticul, Yucatan, just a few miles from the Maya site of Uxmal... I really don't understand why folks want to think the Maya settled in Florida,Georgia or any other one of the United States, they may have visited the USA as part of a trading route....Thank you for the interesting video...
@in_dogs_i_trust
2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps you have an idea of the builders on these ruins? I would be curious since Mayan is ruled out, and Inca being an idea I also crossed. Thanks in advance.
@4WorldPeace2
5 жыл бұрын
Motte: Nice job in filming a very interesting subject. I can't imagine when our "educated" society will wake up and remove the "collective" wool from their eyes and begin teaching the undeniable truth to the young minds in schools in lieu of the "scratched record" account which has been playing over and over again for generations.
@kuldebarvaliturus432
10 жыл бұрын
This is the best video of the site I have seen yet, thank you! There is a dearth of information and the stone ruins are downplayed by official sources when the site is referenced.
@MichellePyrlik
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Motte. I'm definitely going to try again soon, maybe when the leaves fall to make it easier to see. I can't wait to see it. My father loves these adventures too & will come along. He has always shown me the things about the mountains that he knows, but had no idea any of this existed.
@peppermotte
11 жыл бұрын
It is a cross roads for trading, the "gap" there is a natural feature for an ancient trail. The first gold in America was found in this area and Franklin, NC only 30 miles to the north is the only North American source for emeralds, rubies and dozens of other gemstones. The Native Americans have never laid claim to this area of Georgia ever being part of their territory.
@theag6908
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing.
@peppermotte
11 жыл бұрын
If the Mayans achieved a consistent trade route with the Southwest Anasazi tribes ( more or less during the same time period) which " Chaco Canyon, New Mexico" is approximately 2000 miles across land from the main Central American Mayan Culture location, it's absolutely within reason to believe they could have made a simple ocean voyage only covering less than half that distance into present day Cuba, Florida and Georgia and on into the interior areas such as Track Rock Gap.
@wmcbarker4155
6 жыл бұрын
thanks for taking me along on your walk. like
@peppermotte
11 жыл бұрын
Michelle I have left some instructions to the site at this point, despite a request from the Forest Service, the area is not officially off limits, being that it is technically on open public lands. If you go, I can only ask that you please respect the sanctity of the area.
@FLtrailblazer
8 жыл бұрын
I explore many historical sites in Florida and on my visit to GA I decided to try and find this and enjoyed you're video! I found what I think is the vent trail then followed it best I could for a ways until the trail seems to disappear... I did see many stone wall formations you printed out but was unable to get to a lot of where you were including the spring and the hole at the end of the trail. Such a magical place from what I got to see, my video will be up soon. Can I email you my route in at least and you can see where I was in relation to the site? I'm just curious where I went off course. Thanks again!
@peppermotte
11 жыл бұрын
I've visited dozens of ancient culture sites and this one is by far the most unique and fascinating. The fact that it is in an untouched condition and still complete is truly amazing. You can see with your own eyes how extensive and complicated the village is and that despite the recent government cover up, that it does exist! I'd say at least 80 percent of it is laying buried under a millennium of soil and forest debris. What you are seeing in my video is just a scratch in the surface.
@joecollier9445
4 жыл бұрын
This would be a cool place for the new terrain technology their using in the Amazon. Maybe get a bigger picture! Great video!
@Monasukapanough
11 жыл бұрын
Taino was the direct neighbor to Mayans. Taino villages went from Cuba and into florida (bimimi stones area was Taino villages). We all know how easy it is to get from Cuba to Miami....people make this trip on intertubes...Cuba refugees is prime example.
@Monasukapanough
11 жыл бұрын
Now here is the good stuff. Read "THE Discoveries of JOHN LEDERER from Virginia to the West of Carolina". Speaks about the tribes in North Carolina and Virginia....their Calender was in fact a Mayan/Aztec Wheel Calendar. " An account of Time, and other things, they keep on a string or leather thong tied in knots of several colours. I took particular notice of small Wheels serving for this purpose among the Oenocks, because I have heard that the Mexicans use the same. "
@FLtrailblazer
8 жыл бұрын
After I lost the trail I headed into the mountains there and saw more formations but couldn't link back up to the trail to find the main sites.
@peppermotte
11 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your input on the aspect of the Cairns themselves.You must actually walk the entire "village" to understand the layout and complexity of what is really constructed there. Clearly, there are water diversion canals and dozens upon dozens of terraces, large temple areas and leveled plazas beside them. If constructed for ceremonial purposes, only used several times a year, suggests quite a large and sophisticated society. Far beyond what local Native Americans, alone, had achieved then.
@sevenelizabeth
11 жыл бұрын
I went to the Kolomoki Mounds this weekend. It was awesome.
@peppermotte
10 жыл бұрын
There is information posted on my "replies" to other curious folks as to how to locate the site. Good Luck and Enjoy.
@Whittmike2011
7 жыл бұрын
It would be very interesting to know if any battle or hunting artifacts were throughout the area? I have heard that over the past few years, that the Government took over the property??
@royledford5673
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid, most interesting. I am of Cherokee descent from the Lake Rabun and Clayton area and 57 years young. I have only heard the elders speak of Creeks as far as other peoples go and that was back in the 60's & 70's; they are long gone now. I have seen footage of Archeologists in Guatemala hitting the Mayan glyphs with artificial light shining across the face at night instead of daylight that shines ON. Most of the weathering and patina doesn't show up and the original carving DOES, it is much easier to see/read. It would be interesting to see what this would show us at Track Rock Gap, as the Mayan codex and glyphs HAVE been deciphered. We know what they say.
@atypicalhiker
4 жыл бұрын
We have effigy mounds in Putnam County GA Rock eagle is well known but Rock Hawk has those piles of stone and a serpent effigy as well. The similarities are there. I noticed walls in the woods as well. I want to go to track rock gap now. My video of the serpent mound is called little known places on my channel.
@peppermotte
10 жыл бұрын
I am pleased you find my video of value. This is just the tip of the iceberg!
@yourfavman
5 жыл бұрын
Would some water applied to the petroglyph impressions with a small paintbrush make them easier to see? My tired old eye's would love to see them, they are just not as good as they use to be. :) Thanks for the video. Very interesting....
@SouthMexUSA
9 жыл бұрын
Interesting place. The terrace walls do resemble the walls built today by the Mayas of the Yucatan Peninsula. It would be great to know if concrete was used on these structures, as the ancient Maya used it. In the Mayan ruins the concrete appears to have completely disintegrated, but perhaps there are tests that can detect it. There was obviously a lot of influence on these mound cultures from Meso-America, but I am still skeptical as to whether the Mayas actually immigrated en masse. As a speaker of Lacandón Maya, an archaic Peninsular language that is intelligible with the Itzá Maya, I can confirm that most of the claims of linguistic similarity between Muscogee and Maya simply do not hold up. It appears that the site hasn't really been investigated by archaeologists. I see that the USFS claims the site was built by Creek and Cherokee Indians. Another unlikely scenario since the Cherokee migrated from the north. The Creek (Muscogee) ancestors seem to be the most likely candidate, but the question remains as to exactly who were the ancestors of the Creek Indians.
@peppermotte
8 жыл бұрын
+Ross Martin , Nice observations, it could be that some form of crude concrete may have been used and now disintegrated. It really takes visiting the site to fully appreciate it's immensity and obvious pre construction planning. These are elements ( as well as concrete) that simply don't fit into Native American culture and practices anywhere in their history. The site clearly dates back 1000 years to a time when the advanced Mayan culture was still thriving and at a time when most "local" Native American people had just barely become settled into a crude agricultural lifestyle, not to far from a mainly hunting and gathering culture. A village of this advanced design was not even close to a practical notion for the Creeks.
@TheNOXBrothers
4 жыл бұрын
Did you ever view the serpent effigy I have heard of at that location? I have found something while metal detecting that could be of myan origin. I recovered this item south of Atlanta on a private permission we’ve obtained.
@peppermotte
11 жыл бұрын
You are welcome I hope you will take time to review some of the maps available online and figure out how to make it over to the site, It's quite near the Petroglyphs on the other side of the road ,to the right of the main path set back deep in the forest between the two original water source streams. If you are savvy you will detect the original trail ( shown in my video) leading to it.
@MichellePyrlik
11 жыл бұрын
Motte, how do you get to the original Track Rock Gap trail in your video from the petroglyphs? I was there this morning and could not figure out exactly where this particular trail was that heads to the village?
@greenejaw
11 жыл бұрын
Could the " stone relic" be used to move water to another location?
@Monasukapanough
11 жыл бұрын
Now next to Taino was the Timucua. Timucua had a specific hair style. Now look at the John white water colors (easily found online). John white in 1500's made sketches of the Hatteras tribe on Hatteras island in Florida. Notice their "IDOL" has Timucua hairstyle while the tribes people had mohawks.
@Monasukapanough
11 жыл бұрын
The one section does look like Water canals. However the Native people in the area was quite advanced, Check out Cahokia, Cahokia was homeland to the Siouan and Muscogee people. These people was also highly advanced in Copper working...so basically these people was black smiths. In 2001 maybe alil earlier I started working on a Maya to south east thesis and found lots of cool stuff. Mayans was a few miles west of Cuba....simple boat is all needed for the trip.
@peppermotte
10 жыл бұрын
Surely you will be astonished and mystified Michelle. I hope you can spend time covering the area as much as possible, it's fairly large. Best Wishes and Good Luck!
@SAtownMytown
10 жыл бұрын
Nice vid. :) Cant wait for the day I can afford a vacation. I'm gonna check out the site! :) Probably next year. Hopefully this one. :)
@peppermotte
10 жыл бұрын
Well worth the effort, a beautiful area of the country. I'll be returning this Spring for more study.
@ifollowchrist1983
9 жыл бұрын
Motte Thomas Me and my sister are dying to see the ruins and are going to see them this spring as well. We actually live on town creek road and just recently realized this place existed! We knew about petroglyphs rocks of course. I drive by those rocks almost every day but had no idea of the village part.
@peppermotte
9 жыл бұрын
By all means go! You will be astonished beyond belief.
@rodneyfranks2726
5 жыл бұрын
Truly a shame that it has not been excavated.
@nichijuu
11 жыл бұрын
it is a beautiful site (from the video you posted). It makes sense that ancient cultures did 'travel' far. As there has been many evidence. in fact I read that the Mayans or one of those cultures traded with Egyptians and even the ancient Chinese!
@peppermotte
11 жыл бұрын
Sorry I must clarify that I'm referring to is a smaller trail ( probably marked by now) "heading off to the right", near the start of the main hiking trail up the Brasstown Bald, once you cross the street from the Petroglyphs. Once you leave this main trail trail and are on the original Track Rock Gap Trail ( the one shown in my video it meanders through the forest roughly parallel to the highway). You will eventually cross the stream I encountered, the village is up to the left of the trail.
@peppermotte
10 жыл бұрын
I'm interested to know what are the facts that you base your statement on Macuahuiti.
@peppermotte
11 жыл бұрын
The stone at the village is clearly not soapstone and, so far, there no soapstone artifacts associated with the site. Only the petrogyphs are carved on soapstone boulders and there has not been a direct connection established between the Track Rock Gap Petroglyphs and the North Georgia Ancient Mayan Village what so ever. Except to prove that this was a well traveled trade route making it an area that the Ancient Mayans would have found perfectly suitable for their well planned village.
@Griffondor1
9 жыл бұрын
I was just there a few days ago. Do you have any pictures of the fumerole? I went all the way to what appeared to be the end of Vent trail. A white splash on a tree on the side of the trail and three logs placed purposely at the end seemed to indicate this was indeed the end of the trail. If it did continue, it either went down into a steep ravine or went up and was no longer easy to follow. I really wanted to see the fumerole and take pictures and so far haven't found one anywhere on the net. Let me know, thanks.
@peppermotte
9 жыл бұрын
I did see the fumarole and climbed partially into it, but being alone I feared I may get trapped so I backed out. It is almost up against the cliffs up above the village site on the far upper left corner of the area. It sounds like you may have been in the right area. It's not real obvious though, located on very steep terrain amongst a bunch of stacked very large boulders forming some small caves. There is an opening barely large enough to squeeze down into to see the actual fumarole tube, it is not active now. The larger boulder created cave looked as if it had been modified with stones and occupied at one time. There is located nearby the fumarole area headwaters of one of the springs ( one of the two ancient water sources for the village) dripping off the cliffs about 50 feet from the fumarole cave area. You would never find it in the summer months, far too heavily wooded, very steep and a lot slippery moss. Good luck!
@greenejaw
11 жыл бұрын
Do you have any help excavating, and why have I never leaned about this place?
@TheWiserphil73
11 жыл бұрын
can you still visit the site? The H2 documentary said you could not anymore.
@peppermotte
11 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how they would close it off, it's too big and isolated to fence. They probably put signs up warning people that it's illegal to go in there. I imagine by now there's a beaten path to it now. When I discovered it, it took two days of wandering through deep woods and steep mountainside, my first clue was a small stream which I followed up and found the edge of the village. At that point only a handful of people knew where to find it and they were keeping it a secret for good reason!
@peppermotte
11 жыл бұрын
It is perhaps likely that much of the mound building, communal living and worship center concepts of the early Native Americans were derived from cultural influence of the more advanced Mayan culture traditions they were exposed to. Many Native American descendants in the North Georgia area actually carry Mayan DNA.
@Monasukapanough
11 жыл бұрын
At the 11 minute mark, those are Memorials, they symbolize death after a war. Each rock will symbolize a death. A tribe would pick a special place to make their memorials and carry a stone there to remember a person who has died from their tribe much like the 9/11 memorial in new york....there will be no burials there just the memorial stones.
@peppermotte
11 жыл бұрын
The US Forest Service has closed the area and has requested that I "refrain from encouraging curiosity seekers" However, there are some pretty good "architectural" maps out there online already that can be used as guides. They should come up if you Google "Mayan Ruins In Northern Georgia" or similar keys.
@javaqueen1000
11 ай бұрын
I live just down the hill from those rocks. Tourists from the 70s and 80s have carved their stuff in the rocks. Those are not Mayan writings. The cherokee and other Indian tribes wrote on those rocks as directions to places
@peppermotte
11 жыл бұрын
I understand that there is a history of local Native American culture. With all due respect for their particular occupation, it is my opinion that these ruins date far earlier, over 500 years prior, than any of the organized "Modern Tribes". It is clear that this village site ( covering approximately 100 acres of mountainside) was specifically chosen and designed before it was constructed. This particular process and design of "village building" was never utilized by local Native Americans.
@teatimetim
11 жыл бұрын
I'de like to point out that this is the Native American History of this area. What it is, and how it became what it did, what influence and migrations occurred that pulled all this together is yet to be determined. There are interesting hypothesis for sure, but the true story is likely to be much more complex and convoluted then may ever be known. I'de point out the organized Natchez people to the west who pushed back the Spanish in the 1500's. Very complex native american society.
@peppermotte
11 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what it was, it could have been a counter weight or possibly diverted water. As in line with the "Antiquities Act" I did not remove the object for further examination.
@doccbst
11 жыл бұрын
Nice work, very objective and non-opinionated.
@robpayne3801
10 жыл бұрын
Where is the original trail? I was up there today and only found the trail that went to Brasstown Bald. Maybe I should return in the winter.
@peppermotte
10 жыл бұрын
The original trail is to the west of the Brasstown Bald trail ( Brasstown Trail basically running North to South), please read my earlier comments, I have left detailed instructions as to where and how to locate the ancient trail head.
@Griffondor1
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. I was just in the area and would've liked to have seen this site. Sent you an email.
@peppermotte
11 жыл бұрын
I believe that old road bed was the original trail that has been widened over the millennium. I Imagine there are quite a few artifacts of it's history along it's edges if one was to examine. I don't think Thornton was wise at all to actually point out the trails to the site on his maps, what was he thinking! My maps will be a bit more illustrative, showing how the village may have looked in it's hey days. I'm least interested in leading every vandal and curiosity seeker the way there to it!
@frankrice5364
7 жыл бұрын
Cherokee. country some of them even had log cabin
@frankrice5364
7 жыл бұрын
farming in the old day and in some country farmed by building wall to level the ground
@peppermotte
7 жыл бұрын
Possibly, but considering there is much better bottom land by the river not too far away, it seems counter productive to put a farm on the side of a hill. The purpose for this was water hydraulics which served a community with fresh spring water strait near the source, not to mention is is located directly on the trading route. Many more aspects than these made it an appealing location specifically for the Mayans. I have mention several times that the smoking gun is the Mayan DNA that has been clearly established in the bloodline of the local Native Americans.
@MrNedsaabdickerson
11 жыл бұрын
These are not Mayan ruins, there are walls from the woodland period all over the South East US and pats if the Mid West.No one is exactly sure what prompted people in these areas to build walls.
@Monasukapanough
11 жыл бұрын
These people came from Cahokia back when the Muscogee and Siouans lived together. Then they migrated to the south east.
@ShaglusZ
11 жыл бұрын
everywhere is the middle of nowhere!
@peppermotte
11 жыл бұрын
These are all very plausible scenarios and all very good reasons to believe that Mayan oriented tribes were interested in settling into trade and commerce in this particular area. It does contain all the hallmarks of their particular requirements, if nothing else. But the fact that these ruins exist certainly add fuel to the fire. I'm not sure how organized the local Native Americans (if any) were at the time of the construction of the village, which was no doubt well planned before it's start.
@peppermotte
11 жыл бұрын
The Native American population had not yet settled this area when this site was built. There were "Woodlands" people sparsely populating the area at the time, who are the ancestors of the modern day Native Americans. This site was designed built by a highly organized tribe of Central American Mayan people and follows their typical layout design and trade route accessibility preferences. The layout design and village concept was far beyond the abilities of the then nomadic Woodlands natives.
@Monasukapanough
11 жыл бұрын
The Cherokee was not there but the Creek indians was.
@EcoBlends
11 жыл бұрын
prayer bundles?
@peppermotte
10 жыл бұрын
The area is strangely devoid of plant life, leaving a gap to the the sky, the Mayans, as proved through their art and architecture, were clearly connected with worlds beyond this planet. It is merely a suggestion, a speculation for such a circular area to exist within the village. Not everyone feels that intelligent life beyond our planet is simply dismissed as "nonsense".
@Monasukapanough
11 жыл бұрын
Now here is something else...drive from Miami Florida to Georgia border....believe it or not but you just went the distance from Mayan homeland to Miami. :)
@dougkomoroski6803
4 жыл бұрын
Are you familiar with Guy Underwood's book "The Pattern of the Past" or /and David Cowan "Ley Lines and Earth Energies". The cairns aren't just astetic, the mark "blind aprings". Bring a dowser with you on one of these walks bud, and you'll get your mind blown. PS.. I could introduce you to another similar place that is as of yet completely off the radar... in Amherst Virginia.
@rogereades4534
2 жыл бұрын
my DNA results prove Mayan Connections to Creek and Cherokee.
@EcoBlends
11 жыл бұрын
lol...... i wish we were simple!
@Andr3s90sanch3z
10 жыл бұрын
the dropa stones tell the story of aliens crash landing and they couldnt repair there space ship and had to adapt to planet earth until they got killed by tribes
@wmcbarker4155
6 жыл бұрын
blue clay sent south says it all, right? that's the clue, good work, nice vid thanx.....man was made of clay by GOD that explains the many races on Earth, the blue are in the water, ha ha
@billypearl8468
4 жыл бұрын
Its the myans, no gimmicks
@peppermotte
11 жыл бұрын
Everyone has a right to an opinion. Hard research, not simply an opinion, clearly shows that there were no Creek or Cherokee Native Americans in this area at the time this was built. As for the Alien involvement there are those who feel that we are not the only beings in this Universe and also that we have been contacted by others, especially primitive cultures throughout history. There are some that feel it's a somewhat plausible hypothesis. Your sarcasm and pessimism has been noted.
@brianporter6765
5 жыл бұрын
Rock stack might be mud fossils
@Community-Action
10 ай бұрын
This is an excellent place to do an archeological excavation. Anyone know what that hasn’t happened yet?
@jackheffernan7475
2 жыл бұрын
needs to be protected better. read an article about those petroglyphs being vandalized
@atypicalhiker
2 ай бұрын
They were spray painted. I saw it. Sad that people dont respect these sites. I also found someone had stood up the top stone on many of the rock piles.
@jerms8166
11 жыл бұрын
creek indains stil live in america 2 day sorry guys
@peppermotte
11 жыл бұрын
Have you visited the site? How have you come to these conclusions? The area is older than the Woodland period by more than 500 years according to carbon dating of pottery excavated directly from the site. There is absolutely no evidence of Woodland occupation anywhere near this area of the country. "No one is exactly sure" but I am working on a very good hypothesis of Mayan activity along the Atlantic and Gulf coasts, following rivers inland, now including this specific site into the equation.
@noahlewis7311
10 жыл бұрын
isn't the site restricted by the government.
@peppermotte
10 жыл бұрын
The National Park Service has made attempts to discourage visitors, mainly to protect the vulnerable site from looters, however the site lies squarely on public land and is technically open to all US citizens. It is not patrolled or fenced off. I suggest quietly and respectfully visiting during off hours to avoid any issues.
@noahlewis7311
10 жыл бұрын
thank you i am a volunteer for the noaa or national weather service
@irunthe561
10 жыл бұрын
Motte Thomas Although the site is vulnerable to vandals, not so much looters (those petroglyph rocks weigh tons) Recently the USFS cut down over 100 trees on vent trail, and also denied filming permits to the History Channel and National Geographic. There is quite a bit of political undermining in play at this location, for what reasons I am not 100% certain.
@peppermotte
10 жыл бұрын
Sean Floyd Thank you for the information Sean, Upon my return this year for further surveys, I'll be interested to see the forest destruction carried out by USFS. Frankly, fallen trees will not stop the determined sight seers. This is public land owned by all US citizens and we should have the right to access it. Thank goodness most everything is buried and not easily accessible to those who may be tempted to loot.
@Atanar89
10 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. Looks like the site is well preserved, which is awesome. But, ancient aliens? Why did you include this nonsense?
@peppermotte
10 жыл бұрын
The statement is a "suggestion" such as "Jesus" is the "Son of God". There are some things that are beyond our boundaries of common sense and explanation. The fact that Mayans actually came to this part of the world also may fall into this category for some. I have visited ancient sites all over the world and I have seen evidence of extraterrestrial involvement in most all of them. I'm not saying the Aliens actually assisted in building or even planning. But they were taken into consideration.
@koffeyshop
10 жыл бұрын
I watched the video and saw NOTHING that indicates it's Mayan as opposed to local native populations.
@peppermotte
10 жыл бұрын
The video is not here to convince anyone of my studies into the Mayan occupation of the Southeast including the North Georgia Mountains. However, I am curious what you expect to see taking into consideration the village has been almost completely covered by over 1000 years of debris. Also, There were no substantial local Native American populations in this area at the time this village was created.
@koffeyshop
10 жыл бұрын
The Etowah are another Native American culture that dates back to 1000 AD who built elaborate stone structures in Georgia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etowah_Indian_Mounds Take a look at the artifacts...at first glance they resemble Mayan style, but upon closer investigation they depict different deities and ideologies than the Mayan.
@koffeyshop
10 жыл бұрын
After doing some investigation, I admit there was likely contact between the local Native Americans to the Mayans, especially in light of the genetic markers showing up in Creek Nationals. Here is a good site that talks about the Native Americans who built the Track Rock site: www.peopleofonefire.com/forest_service_employees_vandalize_heritage_site.htm The site is considered by archeologists and Native Americans to have been built by the descendents of the Creek, who are the Swift Creek, Napier, Etowah and Lamar Cultures. Although I'm still skeptical that it was directly built by the Mayans, I will certainly concede there was likely a long history of trading contact between the two cultures, and with that comes influences from each culture to the other, including exchange of ideas, language and inter-marrying. It's a good debate....very interesting.
@peppermotte
10 жыл бұрын
Amexum Muur Indigenous Nawlin's I do not differentiate as to who owns what, where and how we came to the current day arrangements, except to say we are common brothers and sisters as we are all on this blue marble essentially the "human race" and need to realize that someday soon.
@jennaladefensora415
7 жыл бұрын
Why are African Americans trying to steal the Natives culture past and/or present from the Americas. It is an insult to my descendants. Your group that you run with are all over the internet trying to take credit where it is not warranted. You are basing the evidence on the large face mounds that look more Asian than African. The lack of evidence is massive, and look at Africa today. The people in most places do not have running water or enough food today in 2017. The Aztecs built Pyramids and a whole community on a lake with floating gardens. Also, they had an irrigation system of clean water with aqueducts coming into their communities. The Mayans built great Pyramids with laser like engineering.They invented astronomy as we know it today, and the Mayan calendar, which is a significant part of archaeology. The Aztec people were an agricultural people that equated religion to survival. Aztec priests and leaders researched movements of the sun and planets in the sky. They followed a set of calendars to track planetary and solar events to make the most important decisions they had yearly. They were natural born cultivators in planting and able to feed the masses. Does Africa look anything like Mexico in 2017. Now, I understand that everyone came from Africa, and have small percentages of that DNA, but not enough to claim that Ethnicity, which is about tradition, learned behavior and customs. It is about learning where you come from, and celebrating the traditions and ideas that are part of that region. There are no known Africans that share any of the same traditions or engineering fetes of the Aztecs or Mayans. Stay out of our history, and your group is like scavengers trying to find what is left over and change it to make you look more accomplished. Is it hard to believe that we were very intelligent and talented engineers?
@nichijuu
11 жыл бұрын
my question is, I know the Indian population was large at one point, but why there out of all places? lol. I get it is pretty but it is in the middle of nowhere to have a civilization!
@Monasukapanough
11 жыл бұрын
Now if you was to get on a boat anywhere on the East coast of Florida...you would end up on Hatteras island in North Carolina. You can ask any ship pilot about this..it is called the Gulf Stream...all ship pilots must learn about this.
@baronvon2012
10 жыл бұрын
Was curious what side of the road these "ruins" are on. Looking at Wikimapia.org, it appears they may have been recently destroyed. Can you confirm?
@peppermotte
10 жыл бұрын
The village ruins are far too large to destroy, covering over 1/2 mile squared on almost the whole mountain side. I hear the US Forest Service attempted to discourage curiosity seekers and possible looters by dropping trees across the trail, but the trail is too well defined to obliterate completely, it's practically a road sized trail now, back going through the woods running basically parallel to the highway below. Over the millennia of animal and then human travel it has been increasingly widened to accommodate wagons and even large logging vehicles at one point. Please scroll down read my other older replies here for detailed instructions as to how to locate the trail head and original path/road.
@MindzEnt
5 жыл бұрын
Hujkl
@Monasukapanough
11 жыл бұрын
Now...google a map of Mayan location....take close look at it..we know Mayans abandoned their city...ok the Aztecs was coming from the north...so imagine a attack from the North West...look at Mayan map again...where would Mayans go? Cuba is ONLY place they could go...aka Tainos...who did in fact have villages in...Florida.
@RogueAshaman
10 жыл бұрын
That was not built by the Maya
@jerms8166
11 жыл бұрын
this place isnt 1000 off years old ...and what do you guys mean?? buy a 1000 year old site pre native american occupation... so were are you trying to say the native americans are from??
@peppermotte
11 жыл бұрын
The DNA testing results are available, no one is hiding this fact.
@rodneygreenway982
6 жыл бұрын
They stole chunks of the rocks because there were MAPS!
@peppermotte
11 жыл бұрын
Poorly presented as it may be, lol, obviously I am trying to get across my personal hypothesis with the tutorial and all, but if you simply look at the video of the ruins alone, the raw evidence, still to me, is overwhelming proof that this is far beyond simple Native American history of the area ( with all due respect).
@peppermotte
10 жыл бұрын
I am pleased you find my video of value. This is just the tip of the iceberg!
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