This is an excellent place to do an archeological excavation. Anyone know what that hasn’t happened yet?
@javaqueen1000
Жыл бұрын
And if you wanted to see actual ancient nati e american ruins the guy right across the road is a original local. Melvin could take you to places his family and other local families keep secret from people. Not seen by a white man in over 100 yrs
@javaqueen1000
Жыл бұрын
I live just down the hill from those rocks. Tourists from the 70s and 80s have carved their stuff in the rocks. Those are not Mayan writings. The cherokee and other Indian tribes wrote on those rocks as directions to places
@rogereades4534
2 жыл бұрын
my DNA results prove Mayan Connections to Creek and Cherokee.
@jackheffernan7475
2 жыл бұрын
needs to be protected better. read an article about those petroglyphs being vandalized
@atypicalhiker
3 ай бұрын
They were spray painted. I saw it. Sad that people dont respect these sites. I also found someone had stood up the top stone on many of the rock piles.
@immanotgoingto
4 жыл бұрын
There are other KZitemrs posting videos from other states about their findings of ancient mounds and bones of giants. Perhaps they are remnants of the time of Tartaria, when the world was one. My family owned land in Carey, Ga, and we would find arrowheads in the dirt. I've also visited the little known Rock Snake, which isn't listed on any map. Would love to see Track Rock. Where can one find the location of glyphs? kzitem.info/news/bejne/uIuuv36JfYKWlo4
@dougkomoroski6803
4 жыл бұрын
Are you familiar with Guy Underwood's book "The Pattern of the Past" or /and David Cowan "Ley Lines and Earth Energies". The cairns aren't just astetic, the mark "blind aprings". Bring a dowser with you on one of these walks bud, and you'll get your mind blown. PS.. I could introduce you to another similar place that is as of yet completely off the radar... in Amherst Virginia.
@rickecheverria3515
4 жыл бұрын
Motte, I have been visiting Maya sites ( around 50sites ) in Mexico and Guatemala since 1952, I would like to make a couple observations about your video... First: I have never seen or heard of any Maya petroglyphs... Second: I have never seen or heard of any Maya terraces, Incas =terraces... Third: The Maya did beautiful stone work, these walls you are showing look identical to walls in Vermont built in colonial times... Forth: Maya Blue clay is found just outside the town of Ticul, Yucatan, just a few miles from the Maya site of Uxmal... I really don't understand why folks want to think the Maya settled in Florida,Georgia or any other one of the United States, they may have visited the USA as part of a trading route....Thank you for the interesting video...
@in_dogs_i_trust
2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps you have an idea of the builders on these ruins? I would be curious since Mayan is ruled out, and Inca being an idea I also crossed. Thanks in advance.
@joecollier9445
4 жыл бұрын
This would be a cool place for the new terrain technology their using in the Amazon. Maybe get a bigger picture! Great video!
@TheNOXBrothers
4 жыл бұрын
Did you ever view the serpent effigy I have heard of at that location? I have found something while metal detecting that could be of myan origin. I recovered this item south of Atlanta on a private permission we’ve obtained.
@atypicalhiker
4 жыл бұрын
We have effigy mounds in Putnam County GA Rock eagle is well known but Rock Hawk has those piles of stone and a serpent effigy as well. The similarities are there. I noticed walls in the woods as well. I want to go to track rock gap now. My video of the serpent mound is called little known places on my channel.
@bethbartlett5692
4 жыл бұрын
Possibly my best find on KZitem for natural and fairly local Ancient Earth-work remains. I'm stunned at the elaborate degrees of efforts and size of the area. I would be in my element setting on the stream overlooking the ancient pond. Mesmerized ... (Next "!")
@billypearl8468
4 жыл бұрын
Its the myans, no gimmicks
@rodneyfranks2726
5 жыл бұрын
Truly a shame that it has not been excavated.
@peopleofonefire9643
5 жыл бұрын
From Richard Thornton - Actually, most of the petroglyphs long predate the agricultural terraces. They are identical to those at Nykoping, Sweden - which date to 2000 BC. We are finding numerous terrace complexes, in much better condition than Track Rock, in northern Habersham County, GA. They were probably built by the Soque, who also came from southern Mexico. Their descendants are the Miccosukee. We are also finding the Swedish Bronze Age-style petroglyphs in NE Georgia.
@rodneygreenway982
5 жыл бұрын
I believe that I have found Spanish markings up there. There are accounts of the Spanish trying to find a rich city named "Yupaha" because of it's vast amounts of gold. Mainstream history says that they never found the city....but I believe that they did, and found the markings to prove it. I believe that Track Rock Gap is indeed Yupaha, and that it is indeed mayan, and that there was a gold trade network from Track Rock Gap/Blue Ridge Mountains all the way down through Florida and over into the Yucatan...I think there may have been a land bridge extending from FL, to Cuba, to the Yucatan, and if not, I believe the Chattahoochee River was a main supply route. But you can tell that some sort of trade network was in place simply my following all the mayan named sites and waterways from N. GA to the Yucatan.
@beeaelzeebub7854
5 жыл бұрын
ITS CALLED AMERICAN HISTORY X , MR MOTTE SEEMS ALL THIS TALK ABOUT TERRACES AND PLAZAS NO ARRYOS BUT YOU HAVE THE OTHER WORD FOR IN SPANISH , GREAT POST BTW ! ! ! ALSO COULD CORRELATE WITH AZTEC AND PREHISTORIC HUMANS ARCHITECTURE IN OTHER WORDS SEEMS YOU HAVE STUMBBLED UPON STEP PYRAMIDAL PERHAPS RIVALING EGYPTS STEP TERRA FORMED LANDSCAPES ? ? AND WHAT SIGNIFIGANCE DOES THIS HAVE WITH THE OHIO SERPENT MOUND & CHEROKEE ALAPHABET ? >:)
@randratjohngalt8617
2 жыл бұрын
Drop the caps plz
@yourfavman
5 жыл бұрын
Would some water applied to the petroglyph impressions with a small paintbrush make them easier to see? My tired old eye's would love to see them, they are just not as good as they use to be. :) Thanks for the video. Very interesting....
@brianporter6765
5 жыл бұрын
Rock stack might be mud fossils
@theag6908
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing.
@utubegeneric
6 жыл бұрын
The rock at 16:30 are very similar to the rocks that carry water at Machu Picchu in South America. There are a lot of similar structures in southeast Kentucky, southwest Virginia and northeastern tennessee. Which, there is also blue clay present in some of those areas as well. Lots of rock walls and mounds. I wouldn't necessarily say they are done by mayans though. There were native American tribes that built mounds and rock structures too. They were called the Adena culture, and existed 1000 BC.
@4WorldPeace2
6 жыл бұрын
Motte: Nice job in filming a very interesting subject. I can't imagine when our "educated" society will wake up and remove the "collective" wool from their eyes and begin teaching the undeniable truth to the young minds in schools in lieu of the "scratched record" account which has been playing over and over again for generations.
@wmcbarker4155
6 жыл бұрын
thanks for taking me along on your walk. like
@wmcbarker4155
6 жыл бұрын
blue clay sent south says it all, right? that's the clue, good work, nice vid thanx.....man was made of clay by GOD that explains the many races on Earth, the blue are in the water, ha ha
@royledford5673
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid, most interesting. I am of Cherokee descent from the Lake Rabun and Clayton area and 57 years young. I have only heard the elders speak of Creeks as far as other peoples go and that was back in the 60's & 70's; they are long gone now. I have seen footage of Archeologists in Guatemala hitting the Mayan glyphs with artificial light shining across the face at night instead of daylight that shines ON. Most of the weathering and patina doesn't show up and the original carving DOES, it is much easier to see/read. It would be interesting to see what this would show us at Track Rock Gap, as the Mayan codex and glyphs HAVE been deciphered. We know what they say.
@rodneygreenway982
6 жыл бұрын
They stole chunks of the rocks because there were MAPS!
@frankrice5364
7 жыл бұрын
farming in the old day and in some country farmed by building wall to level the ground
@peppermotte
7 жыл бұрын
Possibly, but considering there is much better bottom land by the river not too far away, it seems counter productive to put a farm on the side of a hill. The purpose for this was water hydraulics which served a community with fresh spring water strait near the source, not to mention is is located directly on the trading route. Many more aspects than these made it an appealing location specifically for the Mayans. I have mention several times that the smoking gun is the Mayan DNA that has been clearly established in the bloodline of the local Native Americans.
@frankrice5364
7 жыл бұрын
Cherokee. country some of them even had log cabin
@Whittmike2011
7 жыл бұрын
It would be very interesting to know if any battle or hunting artifacts were throughout the area? I have heard that over the past few years, that the Government took over the property??
@FLtrailblazer
8 жыл бұрын
After I lost the trail I headed into the mountains there and saw more formations but couldn't link back up to the trail to find the main sites.
@FLtrailblazer
8 жыл бұрын
I explore many historical sites in Florida and on my visit to GA I decided to try and find this and enjoyed you're video! I found what I think is the vent trail then followed it best I could for a ways until the trail seems to disappear... I did see many stone wall formations you printed out but was unable to get to a lot of where you were including the spring and the hole at the end of the trail. Such a magical place from what I got to see, my video will be up soon. Can I email you my route in at least and you can see where I was in relation to the site? I'm just curious where I went off course. Thanks again!
@peppermotte
8 жыл бұрын
In addition to my opinion of the origins of the village and it's purpose: Based on my recent discovery and direct observations, it is my interpretation that the circular forms in Track Rock Gap Petroglyphs are partially a symbolic map indicating the "mines and trenches" located in the immediate area of the Track Rock Gap petroglyph boulders. These pit mines ( up to 50 ft across and 25 feet deep) and trenches ( running 100 yards and 5 feet deep) lay hidden deep in the forest mountainside directly across from the village. It is likely these mines were the very spot where the Mayans were acquiring the rare Georgia clay that was being exported back to the Yucatan to create their sacred "Mayan Blue" paint pigment.
@Sylkenwolf
7 жыл бұрын
Motte Thomas this is really cool! I'd love to see this as I have been to that part a lot of times and never heard of the Petroglyphs. Thanks for sharing
@robertbrown8175
5 жыл бұрын
I have heard this story before many years ago.
@Gestaltism
8 жыл бұрын
Mississipian period/culture ruins built by muskogee creek indians.
@peppermotte
8 жыл бұрын
+Ben Smith Nice suggestion but way off track, beyond the incorrect time line for the Mississippian culture by 300-500 years and no other evidence of any settlement type occupation of this territory. Besides the 2012 blood tests of local Georgia Native American Ancient Tribe descendants show absolute Mayan DNA marker links.
@Gestaltism
8 жыл бұрын
It's dead on for the Mississippian timeline for having been constructed around 1000 AD. There is no evidence of Mayan cultural influence beyond central America. Besides DNA testing shows that these people were without doubt related to modern day Creek indians.
@Gestaltism
8 жыл бұрын
archyfantasies.com/2014/09/16/mayans-in-georgia-america-unearthed-episode-one/ Maybe you should read this.
@peppermotte
8 жыл бұрын
I've seen the show many times, it was made after my survey of the complete village, on foot. The difference is that I have been directly to the site and surveyed it for days, he, (nor the author of this article) has never set foot there. Also, I have visited dozens of sites all over the US and Mexico for that matter. Beyond my own "educated" opinion, there are direct tags to the Mayan culture in the form of "Mayan Blue Pigment" using unique clay mined directly from this area, not to mention the DNA testing results which I have pointed out already and which is smoking gun evidence of Mayan presence. This is no fantasy, the truth will be revealed once the site is actually unearthed and studied by qualified scientists in the near future. Until otherwise disputed with contrary evidence, I will continue maintain and strengthen my conclusions from my direct experience with the site and others I am currently studying..
@Gestaltism
8 жыл бұрын
anthropology.uga.edu/people/faculty/williams_mark/ this guy might have a thing or two to say differently
@SouthMexUSA
9 жыл бұрын
Interesting place. The terrace walls do resemble the walls built today by the Mayas of the Yucatan Peninsula. It would be great to know if concrete was used on these structures, as the ancient Maya used it. In the Mayan ruins the concrete appears to have completely disintegrated, but perhaps there are tests that can detect it. There was obviously a lot of influence on these mound cultures from Meso-America, but I am still skeptical as to whether the Mayas actually immigrated en masse. As a speaker of Lacandón Maya, an archaic Peninsular language that is intelligible with the Itzá Maya, I can confirm that most of the claims of linguistic similarity between Muscogee and Maya simply do not hold up. It appears that the site hasn't really been investigated by archaeologists. I see that the USFS claims the site was built by Creek and Cherokee Indians. Another unlikely scenario since the Cherokee migrated from the north. The Creek (Muscogee) ancestors seem to be the most likely candidate, but the question remains as to exactly who were the ancestors of the Creek Indians.
@peppermotte
8 жыл бұрын
+Ross Martin , Nice observations, it could be that some form of crude concrete may have been used and now disintegrated. It really takes visiting the site to fully appreciate it's immensity and obvious pre construction planning. These are elements ( as well as concrete) that simply don't fit into Native American culture and practices anywhere in their history. The site clearly dates back 1000 years to a time when the advanced Mayan culture was still thriving and at a time when most "local" Native American people had just barely become settled into a crude agricultural lifestyle, not to far from a mainly hunting and gathering culture. A village of this advanced design was not even close to a practical notion for the Creeks.
@Griffondor1
9 жыл бұрын
I was just there a few days ago. Do you have any pictures of the fumerole? I went all the way to what appeared to be the end of Vent trail. A white splash on a tree on the side of the trail and three logs placed purposely at the end seemed to indicate this was indeed the end of the trail. If it did continue, it either went down into a steep ravine or went up and was no longer easy to follow. I really wanted to see the fumerole and take pictures and so far haven't found one anywhere on the net. Let me know, thanks.
@peppermotte
9 жыл бұрын
I did see the fumarole and climbed partially into it, but being alone I feared I may get trapped so I backed out. It is almost up against the cliffs up above the village site on the far upper left corner of the area. It sounds like you may have been in the right area. It's not real obvious though, located on very steep terrain amongst a bunch of stacked very large boulders forming some small caves. There is an opening barely large enough to squeeze down into to see the actual fumarole tube, it is not active now. The larger boulder created cave looked as if it had been modified with stones and occupied at one time. There is located nearby the fumarole area headwaters of one of the springs ( one of the two ancient water sources for the village) dripping off the cliffs about 50 feet from the fumarole cave area. You would never find it in the summer months, far too heavily wooded, very steep and a lot slippery moss. Good luck!
@Andr3s90sanch3z
10 жыл бұрын
the dropa stones tell the story of aliens crash landing and they couldnt repair there space ship and had to adapt to planet earth until they got killed by tribes
@robpayne3801
10 жыл бұрын
Where is the original trail? I was up there today and only found the trail that went to Brasstown Bald. Maybe I should return in the winter.
@peppermotte
10 жыл бұрын
The original trail is to the west of the Brasstown Bald trail ( Brasstown Trail basically running North to South), please read my earlier comments, I have left detailed instructions as to where and how to locate the ancient trail head.
@baronvon2012
10 жыл бұрын
Was curious what side of the road these "ruins" are on. Looking at Wikimapia.org, it appears they may have been recently destroyed. Can you confirm?
@peppermotte
10 жыл бұрын
The village ruins are far too large to destroy, covering over 1/2 mile squared on almost the whole mountain side. I hear the US Forest Service attempted to discourage curiosity seekers and possible looters by dropping trees across the trail, but the trail is too well defined to obliterate completely, it's practically a road sized trail now, back going through the woods running basically parallel to the highway below. Over the millennia of animal and then human travel it has been increasingly widened to accommodate wagons and even large logging vehicles at one point. Please scroll down read my other older replies here for detailed instructions as to how to locate the trail head and original path/road.
@MindzEnt
5 жыл бұрын
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@koffeyshop
10 жыл бұрын
I watched the video and saw NOTHING that indicates it's Mayan as opposed to local native populations.
@peppermotte
10 жыл бұрын
The video is not here to convince anyone of my studies into the Mayan occupation of the Southeast including the North Georgia Mountains. However, I am curious what you expect to see taking into consideration the village has been almost completely covered by over 1000 years of debris. Also, There were no substantial local Native American populations in this area at the time this village was created.
@koffeyshop
10 жыл бұрын
The Etowah are another Native American culture that dates back to 1000 AD who built elaborate stone structures in Georgia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etowah_Indian_Mounds Take a look at the artifacts...at first glance they resemble Mayan style, but upon closer investigation they depict different deities and ideologies than the Mayan.
@koffeyshop
10 жыл бұрын
After doing some investigation, I admit there was likely contact between the local Native Americans to the Mayans, especially in light of the genetic markers showing up in Creek Nationals. Here is a good site that talks about the Native Americans who built the Track Rock site: www.peopleofonefire.com/forest_service_employees_vandalize_heritage_site.htm The site is considered by archeologists and Native Americans to have been built by the descendents of the Creek, who are the Swift Creek, Napier, Etowah and Lamar Cultures. Although I'm still skeptical that it was directly built by the Mayans, I will certainly concede there was likely a long history of trading contact between the two cultures, and with that comes influences from each culture to the other, including exchange of ideas, language and inter-marrying. It's a good debate....very interesting.
@peppermotte
10 жыл бұрын
Amexum Muur Indigenous Nawlin's I do not differentiate as to who owns what, where and how we came to the current day arrangements, except to say we are common brothers and sisters as we are all on this blue marble essentially the "human race" and need to realize that someday soon.
@jennaladefensora415
7 жыл бұрын
Why are African Americans trying to steal the Natives culture past and/or present from the Americas. It is an insult to my descendants. Your group that you run with are all over the internet trying to take credit where it is not warranted. You are basing the evidence on the large face mounds that look more Asian than African. The lack of evidence is massive, and look at Africa today. The people in most places do not have running water or enough food today in 2017. The Aztecs built Pyramids and a whole community on a lake with floating gardens. Also, they had an irrigation system of clean water with aqueducts coming into their communities. The Mayans built great Pyramids with laser like engineering.They invented astronomy as we know it today, and the Mayan calendar, which is a significant part of archaeology. The Aztec people were an agricultural people that equated religion to survival. Aztec priests and leaders researched movements of the sun and planets in the sky. They followed a set of calendars to track planetary and solar events to make the most important decisions they had yearly. They were natural born cultivators in planting and able to feed the masses. Does Africa look anything like Mexico in 2017. Now, I understand that everyone came from Africa, and have small percentages of that DNA, but not enough to claim that Ethnicity, which is about tradition, learned behavior and customs. It is about learning where you come from, and celebrating the traditions and ideas that are part of that region. There are no known Africans that share any of the same traditions or engineering fetes of the Aztecs or Mayans. Stay out of our history, and your group is like scavengers trying to find what is left over and change it to make you look more accomplished. Is it hard to believe that we were very intelligent and talented engineers?
@SAtownMytown
10 жыл бұрын
Nice vid. :) Cant wait for the day I can afford a vacation. I'm gonna check out the site! :) Probably next year. Hopefully this one. :)
@peppermotte
10 жыл бұрын
Well worth the effort, a beautiful area of the country. I'll be returning this Spring for more study.
@ifollowchrist1983
9 жыл бұрын
Motte Thomas Me and my sister are dying to see the ruins and are going to see them this spring as well. We actually live on town creek road and just recently realized this place existed! We knew about petroglyphs rocks of course. I drive by those rocks almost every day but had no idea of the village part.
@peppermotte
9 жыл бұрын
By all means go! You will be astonished beyond belief.
@noahlewis7311
10 жыл бұрын
isn't the site restricted by the government.
@peppermotte
10 жыл бұрын
The National Park Service has made attempts to discourage visitors, mainly to protect the vulnerable site from looters, however the site lies squarely on public land and is technically open to all US citizens. It is not patrolled or fenced off. I suggest quietly and respectfully visiting during off hours to avoid any issues.
@noahlewis7311
10 жыл бұрын
thank you i am a volunteer for the noaa or national weather service
@irunthe561
10 жыл бұрын
Motte Thomas Although the site is vulnerable to vandals, not so much looters (those petroglyph rocks weigh tons) Recently the USFS cut down over 100 trees on vent trail, and also denied filming permits to the History Channel and National Geographic. There is quite a bit of political undermining in play at this location, for what reasons I am not 100% certain.
@peppermotte
10 жыл бұрын
Sean Floyd Thank you for the information Sean, Upon my return this year for further surveys, I'll be interested to see the forest destruction carried out by USFS. Frankly, fallen trees will not stop the determined sight seers. This is public land owned by all US citizens and we should have the right to access it. Thank goodness most everything is buried and not easily accessible to those who may be tempted to loot.
@peppermotte
10 жыл бұрын
There is information posted on my "replies" to other curious folks as to how to locate the site. Good Luck and Enjoy.
@Griffondor1
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. I was just in the area and would've liked to have seen this site. Sent you an email.
@peppermotte
11 жыл бұрын
I am pleased you find my video of value. This is just the tip of the iceberg!
@peppermotte
11 жыл бұрын
I am pleased you find my video of value. This is just the tip of the iceberg!
@thrsalgthtnvrgosout
11 жыл бұрын
thanks motte!!!! that was awesome. i have been trying to find and read more info on this site. looking forward to more from you!
@peppermotte
11 жыл бұрын
The statement is a "suggestion" such as "Jesus" is the "Son of God". There are some things that are beyond our boundaries of common sense and explanation. The fact that Mayans actually came to this part of the world also may fall into this category for some. I have visited ancient sites all over the world and I have seen evidence of extraterrestrial involvement in most all of them. I'm not saying the Aliens actually assisted in building or even planning. But they were taken into consideration.
@Atanar89
11 жыл бұрын
You gotta provide strong evidence for such a far-fetched argument, not "feels". Everything I've seen so far indicates that people were just as smart a few thousand years ago as they are today, just with a little less knowledge. There is no need for a "alien intelligence" crutch-argument.
@peppermotte
11 жыл бұрын
I'm interested to know what are the facts that you base your statement on Macuahuiti.
@peppermotte
11 жыл бұрын
The area is strangely devoid of plant life, leaving a gap to the the sky, the Mayans, as proved through their art and architecture, were clearly connected with worlds beyond this planet. It is merely a suggestion, a speculation for such a circular area to exist within the village. Not everyone feels that intelligent life beyond our planet is simply dismissed as "nonsense".
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